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Camellia - overcomplexification [Osu|Taiko]

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Ambient
I think its time i become the biggest try hard and suck up to a lot of really stupid BN queue's, because i'm going overseas in 2 months.

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Pentori
ayy lets go fyi no sucking up was involved
rip tochi

[General]
having camellia in tags isn't really necessary since it's already in the artists name

[HB's Easy]
set combo colours?
uncheck widescreen
mm, hitsounds don't really provide enough feedback here. snares aren't hitsounded which is a problem
00:08:922 (5,1,2) - can you try a different rhythm here? the way you have it now 00:09:869 (1,2) - don't land on any significant beats so its very difficult to know when to click them. imo you could delete 00:08:922 (5) - and make 00:07:975 (4) - a reverse then put the two sliders 00:09:869 (1,2) - on downbeats which are easier to predict
00:49:027 (3) - its better if you end this on 00:49:659 - like u did for 00:43:975 (3) - because it allows the drums to be clicked
01:31:027 - missing whistle

[Normal]
also lacking in hitsounds
00:26:764 (5,1) - 01:00:553 (2,1) - 01:04:501 (5,1) - 01:07:027 (4,1,2) - spacing errors
00:17:132 - music picks up here, why not introduce hitsounds/increase hitsound volume? with 100% music and effect volume i can't even hear what im clicking
00:31:975 (4,1) - blanket
00:39:869 - hm maybe you could shorten the slider and let this be clickable, because the sound is different compared to the first 2 repeats and is less confusing
00:44:606 - this beat leads into the downbeat so is pretty important. i'd include it in your rhythm since it also prevents that weird 2/1 gap with close spacing
00:49:659 - same goes for this one
00:54:080 - why didn't you include this sound when you included the other two? 00:49:027 (4) - 00:43:975 (4) . even though its 1/2, it still follows the same musical structure so for consistency you should include this
00:59:132 - same deal
00:54:711 - 00:59:764 - and with the inclusion of those, you should add these two for consistency if you decide to add these lead-in notes
01:02:606 (1,2) - move 2 slightly upward and it'll look nicer, also fix distances when you do that
01:52:501 (3) - 1/4 snap? you used it here 00:49:027 (4)

[Hard]
od jumps from 3 to 6. you should make normal od 4 to even this out
hitsounds are good, why not use a hitsound copier to copy them across to easy and normal
00:06:080 (4,5) - you followed piano a lot in the start but 00:06:711 (5) - seems to miss any piano beat. it'd be better imo to shorten 00:06:080 (4) - to a 1/1 and make 00:06:711 (5) - start on 00:06:553 - so that the piano beats don't appear to be ignored
00:07:975 - whistle
00:26:290 (5) - nc to your nc conventions
00:31:185 (4) - nc
00:42:396 (3) - nc
maybe you can do the rest of the nc's yourself. since you nc's most big white ticks you need to consistently do that. like how 00:49:975 (1) - has an nc so 0:44:922 (3) - should as well
01:32:606 (4,5) - kick slider usage in hard is really controversial i would either make these individual circles or a repeat slider
01:35:132 (4) - having downbeats on a slider's end doesn't correctly represent the intensity that a downbeat brings. imo ctrl g'ing the rhythm of 01:35:132 (4,5) - works nicely, and remember to nc
01:37:659 (5) - same comment applies to rest of these kick sliders

[FCL's Hyper]
00:20:922 (1) - imo, less than 1 second spinners aren't good for gameplay because by the time people start building up their spin it's already over :/ why not just follow drums here
00:22:817 - no snare hitsounds? without hitsounding to drums i feel the map lacks feedback
00:39:238 (1,1,1,1) - placement is kinda sloppy, perhaps you could use polygon tool for a square
00:42:080 (2,1) - nazi stack
01:04:501 (1,2,3,4) - quite inconsistent with 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - and is also quite difficult for this difficulty because the player has to actually move in the direction the kicksliders face which causes fast linear flow. imo if you made it more like 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - it'd play better
01:47:764 (3,4) - it'd be better if the spacing didn't drop here perhaps you could lower the spacing of 01:47:448 (1,2,3) - to fit 01:47:922 (4) - in the same pattern

[Insane]
00:07:975 (3) - whistle?
00:13:659 (2,3,4) - i'd remove whatever soft whistles you have here because you're following drums
00:24:711 - i'd use an extended slider here by shortening it to 00:24:632 - and having a slider on 00:24:711 - sth like http://puu.sh/rbS9j/82264e00cf.jpg. the drum is quite important and shouldn't be on a slider end
00:37:659 (1,1) - blanket is quite off
00:39:238 (1,2,3,4) - you could use polygon tool to make this look cleaner
01:14:922 - no buzz slider here? originally you had them for these sounds 00:43:975
01:27:869 (1,2,3) - this is pretty confusing because the 1/4 gap is a lot larger than the 1/2 gap, imo it makes patterns pretty difficult to read and unintuitive. there are some other places you do this as well if you decide to fix

[Strategas' Extra]
00:19:658 (5) - you should nc this because you nc'ed every 4th. also in patterns such as 00:29:449 (1,2,3,4,1) - you have this nced
00:25:659 (1,1,1) - are these nc's really necessary

i don't really have any worthwhile comments for the higher diffs because i can barely play them. somethings need to be touched up on in lower diffs, but after that this defs can be ranked. best of luck!
FCL

Pentori wrote:

[FCL's Hyper]
00:20:922 (1) - imo, less than 1 second spinners aren't good for gameplay because by the time people start building up their spin it's already over :/ why not just follow drums here hmm, i don't agree, the drain of the spinner is enough to don't lose the control. Also the spinner follows to some extended the background sound, so it's fair enough
00:22:817 - no snare hitsounds? without hitsounding to drums i feel the map lacks feedback k, the histounding is not my buissnes, so pls ambient, fix it instead of me
00:39:238 (1,1,1,1) - placement is kinda sloppy, perhaps you could use polygon tool for a square yay, fixed in my way
00:42:080 (2,1) - nazi stack lul
01:04:501 (1,2,3,4) - quite inconsistent with 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - and is also quite difficult for this difficulty because the player has to actually move in the direction the kicksliders face which causes fast linear flow. imo if you made it more like 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - it'd play better fair enough
01:47:764 (3,4) - it'd be better if the spacing didn't drop here perhaps you could lower the spacing of 01:47:448 (1,2,3) - to fit 01:47:922 (4) - in the same pattern y
ty!
holy, this mapset is alive
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Strategas
00:19:658 (5) - you should nc this because you nc'ed every 4th. also in patterns such as 00:29:449 (1,2,3,4,1) - you have this nced would looks better with no nc, the other one has because it has following paterns that starts there
00:25:659 (1,1,1) - are these nc's really necessary not really, but it emphasizes the sound it follows better

such a ancient map, thanks for check Yohane
Topic Starter
Ambient

Pentori wrote:

ayy lets go fyi no sucking up was involved
rip tochi - He will be meme'd

[General]
having camellia in tags isn't really necessary since it's already in the artists name - Fair enough, removed that.

[Normal]
also lacking in hitsounds - :(
00:26:764 (5,1) - 01:00:553 (2,1) - 01:04:501 (5,1) - 01:07:027 (4,1,2) - spacing errors - There doesn't seem to be any according to AiMod
00:17:132 - music picks up here, why not introduce hitsounds/increase hitsound volume? with 100% music and effect volume i can't even hear what im clicking - Increased volume to a solid 100%
00:31:975 (4,1) - blanket - Fixed.
00:39:869 - hm maybe you could shorten the slider and let this be clickable, because the sound is different compared to the first 2 repeats and is less confusing - Fair enough, fixed.
00:44:606 - this beat leads into the downbeat so is pretty important. i'd include it in your rhythm since it also prevents that weird 2/1 gap with close spacing
00:49:659 - same goes for this one - Fixed.
00:54:080 - why didn't you include this sound when you included the other two? 00:49:027 (4) - 00:43:975 (4) . even though its 1/2, it still follows the same musical structure so for consistency you should include this - Fixed.
00:59:132 - same deal - Fixed.
00:54:711 - 00:59:764 - and with the inclusion of those, you should add these two for consistency if you decide to add these lead-in notes - Yeah why not.
01:02:606 (1,2) - move 2 slightly upward and it'll look nicer, also fix distances when you do that - Fixed.
01:52:501 (3) - 1/4 snap? you used it here 00:49:027 (4) - Fixed.

[Hard]
od jumps from 3 to 6. you should make normal od 4 to even this out - Fixed.
hitsounds are good, why not use a hitsound copier to copy them across to easy and normal - Copied them over to normal, up to HB if he wants them on easy.
00:06:080 (4,5) - you followed piano a lot in the start but 00:06:711 (5) - seems to miss any piano beat. it'd be better imo to shorten 00:06:080 (4) - to a 1/1 and make 00:06:711 (5) - start on 00:06:553 - so that the piano beats don't appear to be ignored - Fixed.
00:07:975 - whistle - Fixed.
00:26:290 (5) - nc to your nc conventions - Fixed.
00:31:185 (4) - nc - Fixed.
00:42:396 (3) - nc - Fixed.
maybe you can do the rest of the nc's yourself. since you nc's most big white ticks you need to consistently do that. like how 00:49:975 (1) - has an nc so 0:44:922 (3) - should as well - Fixed.
01:32:606 (4,5) - kick slider usage in hard is really controversial i would either make these individual circles or a repeat slider - Fixed.
01:35:132 (4) - having downbeats on a slider's end doesn't correctly represent the intensity that a downbeat brings. imo ctrl g'ing the rhythm of 01:35:132 (4,5) - works nicely, and remember to nc - Fixed.
01:37:659 (5) - same comment applies to rest of these kick sliders - Fixed.

[Insane]
00:07:975 (3) - whistle? - Fixed.
00:13:659 (2,3,4) - i'd remove whatever soft whistles you have here because you're following drums - Fixed.
00:24:711 - i'd use an extended slider here by shortening it to 00:24:632 - and having a slider on 00:24:711 - sth like http://puu.sh/rbS9j/82264e00cf.jpg. the drum is quite important and shouldn't be on a slider end - Fixed.
00:37:659 (1,1) - blanket is quite off - Fixed.
00:39:238 (1,2,3,4) - you could use polygon tool to make this look cleaner - Ah yup, Fixed.
01:14:922 - no buzz slider here? originally you had them for these sounds 00:43:975 - Fixed.
01:27:869 (1,2,3) - this is pretty confusing because the 1/4 gap is a lot larger than the 1/2 gap, imo it makes patterns pretty difficult to read and unintuitive. there are some other places you do this as well if you decide to fix - yeah i see what you mean, spaced them closer to the slider they come off.

i don't really have any worthwhile comments for the higher diffs because i can barely play them. somethings need to be touched up on in lower diffs, but after that this defs can be ranked. best of luck!
Bloody hope so, thanks for the mod! ;)
Topic Starter
Ambient
ALMOST THERE FAM
Starset

Pentori wrote:

ayy lets go fyi no sucking up was involved
rip tochi

[General]
having camellia in tags isn't really necessary since it's already in the artists name

[HB's Easy]
set combo colours?
uncheck widescreen
mm, hitsounds don't really provide enough feedback here. snares aren't hitsounded which is a problem
00:08:922 (5,1,2) - can you try a different rhythm here? the way you have it now 00:09:869 (1,2) - don't land on any significant beats so its very difficult to know when to click them. imo you could delete 00:08:922 (5) - and make 00:07:975 (4) - a reverse then put the two sliders 00:09:869 (1,2) - on downbeats which are easier to predict //fixed my own way
00:49:027 (3) - its better if you end this on 00:49:659 - like u did for 00:43:975 (3) - because it allows the drums to be clicked //done
01:31:027 - missing whistle //ye
gotta fix hitsounds for me too since its not me who did them ;w;

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Pentori
aimod only picks up spacing errors for the same combo. when you have a new combo, aimod allows for distance to change which is not what you want in a normal (you can see for yourself by removing those ncs). so I suggest fixing these :p
Topic Starter
Ambient

Pentori wrote:

aimod only picks up spacing errors for the same combo. when you have a new combo, aimod allows for distance to change which is not what you want in a normal (you can see for yourself by removing those ncs). so I suggest fixing these :p
O whoops, should be good now. Also fixed up the hitsounds on HB's Easy. All diffs updated. ;)

edit: also fixed up the hitsounds on FCL's Insane.
Doyak
Tbh your Insane diff is not even close to a typical [Insane] diff, considering how complicated/dense the rhythms are imo, and Hyper is almost pretty much an Insane. So I'd rather use [Another] for your diff.

[Insane]
* 00:12:711 (3,4) - You did this just for variation? However it's weird to put 00:13:027 - this melody sound on the sliderend imo, while 00:13:185 - is not really worth clickable.
* 00:20:922 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - From what I can hear the sound is like this(weaker sounds on the sliderend)

So I think you shouldn't make this like "omg full 1/4s, let me make a creative rhythm with these!"
* 00:22:817 (3) - Why 1/4? I don't hear anything. Rather, I'd make 00:23:132 (6) - into a 1/4 slider.
* 00:27:869 (3,4) - swap the rhythm please lol
* 00:28:738 (3) - Yeah why overmap when you didn't even represent "real" 1/4s?
* 00:32:922 (3) - ^ Well I wouldn't point more of these out, but I think you need to listen more carefully to the song and find proper rhythms. Right now the whole map is like partially overmapped and partially undermapped.
* 00:39:238 (1,2,3,4) - A sudden change to 2/3 beats is barely readable, so you at least need NCs for each of them to make players notice that these are somewhat different than others.
* 00:43:580 (6) - Overmapped.
* 00:43:975 (1) - It's really weird to finish it on the red tick while the sound is still going. At least expand it to the blue tick, or just remove (2) and expand it to there.
* 01:00:317 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Not even the hardest diff overmap this much. Okay I'll never point these out again.
* 01:04:027 - 01:09:080 - It doesn't feel nice to put this drum sound inside a reverse arrow. You did it well on 01:04:501 - 01:04:659 - , so why not do this here too?
* 01:10:185 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why the rhythm here is different than 01:05:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - ? That doesn't sound fit the music either.
* 01:14:922 (5) - Same sound is 00:04:185 (5) - here too, and you made it different.
* 01:22:185 (1,2) - imo you should keep 01:21:711 (4,5,6,7) - because it's basically the same thing...
* 01:35:922 (3,4,5) - Nothing's strong on 01:36:159 - . This should be like http://puu.sh/rZwDF/b161cf5586.jpg
* 01:39:790 (3) - Same, there's no strong sound on the blue tick so why do you start the note here.

as I said above, this diff isn't following the song properly, with many overmaps(even though this song is overcomplexification) and weird rhythms. I think you need to listen to the whole song with 50% speed and reconstruct the rhythms.

[eze's Extra]
* 01:05:764 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'm not really sure what you want to follow here, and only the rhythm looks very complicated. The only notes you really followed the melody sounds are 01:06:080 (8,9,1) - , and everything else is just idk what is mapped to. Why not follow them more strictly, as they'll give better feedback to players? http://puu.sh/rZx4Z/4aae028ab9.jpg
* 01:07:343 (1,2,3) - Well these sounds are obviously 1/3s. http://puu.sh/rZx9w/077d58566b.jpg This or just use 1/3s.

[Strategas' Extra]
* 00:49:975 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - 00:50:290 - doesn't sound any special, rather I think 00:50:448 - should be NC'd.
* 01:03:869 (5,1) - blue tick transition? That's just confusing imo, it's not like there's an important sound on it.
* 01:16:817 (3) - uhh I don't see a reason for this to be a 1/4 slider, just like 00:06:080 (3) -



Well I'm already so confused about things, this music damn
Nothing to say about Tochi's diff, at least the rhythms looked good.
Topic Starter
Ambient
hoooly, i'll get to this tomorrow, cheers~
Topic Starter
Ambient

Doyak wrote:

Tbh your Insane diff is not even close to a typical [Insane] diff, considering how complicated/dense the rhythms are imo, and Hyper is almost pretty much an Insane. So I'd rather use [Another] for your diff.

[Insane]
* 00:12:711 (3,4) - You did this just for variation? However it's weird to put 00:13:027 - this melody sound on the sliderend imo, while 00:13:185 - is not really worth clickable. Yeah I see what you mean, reverted the slider and added one where the note was.
* 00:20:922 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - From what I can hear the sound is like this(weaker sounds on the sliderend)

So I think you shouldn't make this like "omg full 1/4s, let me make a creative rhythm with these!" Yup changed it up.
* 00:22:817 (3) - Why 1/4? I don't hear anything. Rather, I'd make 00:23:132 (6) - into a 1/4 slider. yeah can agree, moved more stuff around.
* 00:27:869 (3,4) - swap the rhythm please lol Replaced the rhythm with something else
* 00:28:738 (3) - Yeah why overmap when you didn't even represent "real" 1/4s? Re-mapped this section a little.
* 00:32:922 (3) - ^ Well I wouldn't point more of these out, but I think you need to listen more carefully to the song and find proper rhythms. Right now the whole map is like partially overmapped and partially undermapped. Same as above, re-mapped a little and replaced notes.
* 00:39:238 (1,2,3,4) - A sudden change to 2/3 beats is barely readable, so you at least need NCs for each of them to make players notice that these are somewhat different than others. Fixed!
* 00:43:580 (6) - Overmapped. Made it a double.
* 00:43:975 (1) - It's really weird to finish it on the red tick while the sound is still going. At least expand it to the blue tick, or just remove (2) and expand it to there. Ah yup i see what you mean, extended the slider.
* 01:00:317 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Not even the hardest diff overmap this much. Okay I'll never point these out again. Re-mapped this part as well, got rid of most of the stacks and streams
* 01:04:027 - 01:09:080 - It doesn't feel nice to put this drum sound inside a reverse arrow. You did it well on 01:04:501 - 01:04:659 - , so why not do this here too? Fair point, reduced them all and added more.
* 01:10:185 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why the rhythm here is different than 01:05:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - ? That doesn't sound fit the music either. Changed both sections a bit.
* 01:14:922 (5) - Same sound is 00:04:185 (5) - here too, and you made it different. Made it so they matched.
* 01:22:185 (1,2) - imo you should keep 01:21:711 (4,5,6,7) - because it's basically the same thing... Yup, followed the same rhythm as before.
* 01:35:922 (3,4,5) - Nothing's strong on 01:36:159 - . This should be like http://puu.sh/rZwDF/b161cf5586.jpg Fixed!
* 01:39:790 (3) - Same, there's no strong sound on the blue tick so why do you start the note here. Fixed similar to the point above ^

as I said above, this diff isn't following the song properly, with many overmaps(even though this song is overcomplexification) and weird rhythms. I think you need to listen to the whole song with 50% speed and reconstruct the rhythms.
overmappification.

I'm gonna go ahead and blame my laziness because i needed to re-map this and now i basically have in major parts, it's a pretty old diff so my mapping techniques weren't up to scratch, changed lots of stuff around and you made really good points. Thanks for the mod! ;)
Strategas
changed all, ty

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Pentori
another look
[-Tochi's Complex]
00:04:185 (1) - a 1/8 snap that ends on the blue tick would be more appropriate since there is clearly a sound on the blue tick 00:04:264 - http://puu.sh/s5IwS/8c9356989c.jpg
00:09:238 (1) - ^
00:21:396 (5,6,7,8) - is exactly the same as 00:20:922 (1,2,3,4) - so why not use the same rhythm? right now the drum on 00:21:475 - is skipped
00:24:080 (1,2,3,4,1) - not too sure about this spacing, since the music is fairly normal here and doesn't really deserve this. maybe if there were 5 snares then this would make sense. like at 00:29:132 (1,2,3,4,5) - u didn't do this kinda spacing
00:28:817 (2,3) - the stack is really flow-breaking. since you have so much movement, it'd probably be better to have 00:28:975 (3) - placed somewhere around x350 y300
01:05:843 (2,3,4) - might want to rework this. i reckon ctrl g'ing the rhythm here works better since there are two sounds on 01:06:001 - while only 1 on 01:05:843
01:10:896 (2,3,4) - ^ same thing
01:11:448 (1,2,3) - there are a lot more sounds here, so maybe use the 1/8? since you kinda did at 01:04:817 (1,1,2)
01:14:922 (1) - 1/8

[eze's Extra]
rhythms seem good here, but lots of aesthetic stuff could be improved (of course this ties in with mapping style)
00:15:238 (3,2) - 00:16:027 (2,5) - these seem pretty crowded, there's plenty of room to space these objects out to avoid a lot of the overlaps
00:16:817 (4,6) - can probably stack these
00:24:632 (6,1) - overlaps aren't really intuitive
00:34:501 (3,4,5,6,1) - u could user slider to stream to make this 5plet look a lot cleaner
01:07:343 (1,2,3) - im pretty sure this is 1/3
01:11:290 - probably better not to skip this drum
01:11:369 (1) - the repeating sound only begins at 01:11:448 - so you should start your slider there
01:22:185 (6,4) - u can avoid this overlap
01:31:896 (2) - not really a nice slider shape since it doesn't align with anything and the perfectly vertical end provides a really robotic look
01:34:422 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - looks really cramped here, try visually space stuff equally. like at the moment 01:34:975 (5) - is really close to 01:34:659 (3)
01:36:711 (1) - intentional old-style slider?
01:46:738 (1,2) - probably swap nc's here since the techno duplets dont begin until 01:46:975 (3) - and 01:46:817 (2) - is a lot more dominant than 01:46:738 (1)
01:47:685 (9) - some of the 1/8 snaps are mapped to nothing so its probably better to make this 1/4
Topic Starter
Ambient
posting for -Tochi :)

-Tochi wrote:

Pentori wrote:

[-Tochi's Complex]
00:04:185 (1) - a 1/8 snap that ends on the blue tick would be more appropriate since there is clearly a sound on the blue tick 00:04:264 - http://puu.sh/s5IwS/8c9356989c.jpg 1/8 sounds overmapped tbh, there's like strong small sounds on both 1/6 or 1/8, but for me 1/8 feels and sounds overmapped.
00:09:238 (1) - ^ Same
00:21:396 (5,6,7,8) - is exactly the same as 00:20:922 (1,2,3,4) - so why not use the same rhythm? right now the drum on 00:21:475 - is skipped Fixed!
00:24:080 (1,2,3,4,1) - not too sure about this spacing, since the music is fairly normal here and doesn't really deserve this. maybe if there were 5 snares then this would make sense. like at 00:29:132 (1,2,3,4,5) - u didn't do this kinda spacing Fixed!
00:28:817 (2,3) - the stack is really flow-breaking. since you have so much movement, it'd probably be better to have 00:28:975 (3) - placed somewhere around x350 y300 Fixed!
01:05:843 (2,3,4) - might want to rework this. i reckon ctrl g'ing the rhythm here works better since there are two sounds on 01:06:001 - while only 1 on 01:05:843 Fixed!
01:10:896 (2,3,4) - ^ same thing 01:10:817 (1,2,3,4,5) -
01:11:448 (1,2,3) - there are a lot more sounds here, so maybe use the 1/8? since you kinda did at 01:04:817 (1,1,2) Fixed!
01:14:922 (1) - 1/8 Same
Thanks for the mod!
welp, not sure on eze being active or not. oh well he's got 7 weeks to reply 8-)

Thanks Penta
eeezzzeee
happy 1 year yay (or not idk if that's something to be happy about lol)


Doyak wrote:

[eze's Extra]
* 01:05:764 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'm not really sure what you want to follow here, and only the rhythm looks very complicated. The only notes you really followed the melody sounds are 01:06:080 (8,9,1) - , and everything else is just idk what is mapped to. Why not follow them more strictly, as they'll give better feedback to players? http://puu.sh/rZx4Z/4aae028ab9.jpg changed some stuff here
* 01:07:343 (1,2,3) - Well these sounds are obviously 1/3s. http://puu.sh/rZx9w/077d58566b.jpg This or just use 1/3s. ok fine

Pentori wrote:

[eze's Extra]
rhythms seem good here, but lots of aesthetic stuff could be improved (of course this ties in with mapping style) yeah this map is so old
00:15:238 (3,2) - 00:16:027 (2,5) - these seem pretty crowded, there's plenty of room to space these objects out to avoid a lot of the overlaps fix
00:16:817 (4,6) - can probably stack these it is already lol
00:24:632 (6,1) - overlaps aren't really intuitive fix
00:34:501 (3,4,5,6,1) - u could user slider to stream to make this 5plet look a lot cleaner fix
01:07:343 (1,2,3) - im pretty sure this is 1/3 fix
01:11:290 - probably better not to skip this drum yes
01:11:369 (1) - the repeating sound only begins at 01:11:448 - so you should start your slider there fix
01:22:185 (6,4) - u can avoid this overlap fix
01:31:896 (2) - not really a nice slider shape since it doesn't align with anything and the perfectly vertical end provides a really robotic look changed the angle a little but i want to keep the general shape
01:34:422 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - looks really cramped here, try visually space stuff equally. like at the moment 01:34:975 (5) - is really close to 01:34:659 (3) fixed i think
01:36:711 (1) - intentional old-style slider? not lol. fixed
01:46:738 (1,2) - probably swap nc's here since the techno duplets dont begin until 01:46:975 (3) - and 01:46:817 (2) - is a lot more dominant than 01:46:738 (1) fix
01:47:685 (9) - some of the 1/8 snaps are mapped to nothing so its probably better to make this 1/4 ok
thanks for modding!
changed some stuff on my own as well

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Ambient
im back boys. all diffs updated :D :D :D
BryLego
Nice map yo!
Topic Starter
Ambient
Loved soon
Lulu-
FINALLY
Topic Starter
Ambient

Lulu- wrote:

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