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@TheKingHenry
I am really sorry about this. someone asked me to edit this mp3 a few days ago and somehow I managed to drop in the map folder
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edit: I'll include my wip osuka map in this post to help clearing my name xD: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/693956
I am really sorry about this. someone asked me to edit this mp3 a few days ago and somehow I managed to drop in the map folder
updated
edit: I'll include my wip osuka map in this post to help clearing my name xD: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/693956
yo very cool map, but what's the timing seciton at 00:57:863 for?
bc if it's for resetting the Nightcore-stuff, you'd also need sections at 04:32:408 and 04:37:863 right
also why did you set all the unnecessary sliderticks to inaudibly low volume instead of just using a silent wav for those, aren't you using different samplesets for the hitsounded ticks anyways?
also, a random find, around 01:31:613 there's a lot of lines that don't do anything so the unnecessary sliderticks are actually audible here, is that intentional?
tbh at this point I'm questioning how meaningful that metronome-hitsounding is when it's not there to enhance gameplay but just adds penetrative noises to a well-crafted song, I mean why even add it in the first place, but sure lol I'm not here to make a big deal out of it ^^
bc if it's for resetting the Nightcore-stuff, you'd also need sections at 04:32:408 and 04:37:863 right
also why did you set all the unnecessary sliderticks to inaudibly low volume instead of just using a silent wav for those, aren't you using different samplesets for the hitsounded ticks anyways?
also, a random find, around 01:31:613 there's a lot of lines that don't do anything so the unnecessary sliderticks are actually audible here, is that intentional?
tbh at this point I'm questioning how meaningful that metronome-hitsounding is when it's not there to enhance gameplay but just adds penetrative noises to a well-crafted song, I mean why even add it in the first place, but sure lol I'm not here to make a big deal out of it ^^
Topic Starter
the lines are going to be added, thanksBonsai wrote:
yo very cool map, but what's the timing seciton at 00:57:863 for?
bc if it's for resetting the Nightcore-stuff, you'd also need sections at 04:32:408 and 04:37:863 right (lol yes, nightcore, finally someone who "speaks my language". it's funny because i always check this when i'm requested for timing checks, but i didn't checked my own map completely, i'm hopeless Q.Q)
also why did you set all the unnecessary sliderticks to inaudibly low volume instead of just using a silent wav for those, aren't you using different samplesets for the hitsounded ticks anyways? (I used to have them silenced with muted files but people complained and I made it that way)
also, a random find, around 01:31:613 there's a lot of lines that don't do anything so the unnecessary sliderticks are actually audible here, is that intentional?
tbh at this point I'm questioning how meaningful that metronome-hitsounding is when it's not there to enhance gameplay but just adds penetrative noises to a well-crafted song, I mean why even add it in the first place, but sure lol I'm not here to make a big deal out of it ^^ (metronome hitsounding is like the most used hitsound patterning we see in this game, that's because unlike the other rhythm games, we don't have specific audio files for every single hit object. the thing is that i needed to do this metronome hitsounding on sliderticks too since my mapping is not a generic 1/1 1/2 spam).
i believe you will agree with me with this since i saw you ranting about generic mapping recently, somewhere.. xD
I know it's fine but it's really just a bizarre choice to do. Either way I won't delve into it any further since eh it's not worth itpimpG wrote:
my map is fine the way it is, already explained all of this before and I'm not going to explain everything again.
if you read the thread and are still not going to respect my decisions, then there is nothing I can do for you.
if my map doesn't meets your needs I kindly suggest you to find other map.
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updated.
changed some things following TheKingHenry's suggestions.
For some reason I haven't been able to get this mapset to work in osu! anymore since couple last updates (read = opening in osu! it just disappears) so if someone wants to take over they're free to do so atleast from my part. Well, I'll still obviously try some things to get stuff to work again though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Finally got it to work so here I am. Let's try again
This one should to go!
Topic Starter
should be done soon 
just noticed but your sb needs epilepsy warning
yes, it doesn't look like that much when you look at it from the editor, but kiai also flashes in gameplay when it starts. combine those two together and it spooked me too much. please fix that.
yes, it doesn't look like that much when you look at it from the editor, but kiai also flashes in gameplay when it starts. combine those two together and it spooked me too much. please fix that.
Topic Starter
not necessary since the combo colors i use are mostly dark, so the kiai effects are minimal
the sb pulse itself is not as bright and constant as the ones from storyboards that needs epilepsy warning
seems to be personal opinion too, since noboby suggested this so far iirc. also nobody suggested this for xxheroxx's map, that uses the same storyboard as i'm using t/89121 (and yes, the epilepsy warning existed 6 years ago / hero gave me permission to use his sb)
will discuss this with the next nominator anyway
the sb pulse itself is not as bright and constant as the ones from storyboards that needs epilepsy warning
seems to be personal opinion too, since noboby suggested this so far iirc. also nobody suggested this for xxheroxx's map, that uses the same storyboard as i'm using t/89121 (and yes, the epilepsy warning existed 6 years ago / hero gave me permission to use his sb)
will discuss this with the next nominator anyway
E ai pimpG o/
Converte failsound.mp3 pra .wav usa o epilepsy warning. Por favor evita confusão com o pessoal, realmente não vale a pena, só ativa isso. É melhor pecar pelo excesso de zelo e cuidado do que com a falta. No mais o mapa tá pronto pra ir pra frente.
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Converte failsound.mp3 pra .wav usa o epilepsy warning. Por favor evita confusão com o pessoal, realmente não vale a pena, só ativa isso. É melhor pecar pelo excesso de zelo e cuidado do que com a falta. No mais o mapa tá pronto pra ir pra frente.
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Topic Starter
failsound é mp3 por padrão na default skin template
Okay one last thing;
04:32:181 (1,2) - I don't quite understand why the new combo here is not on the main downbeat transition when in all other chorus sections it was; 01:56:044 (1) - /03:30:590 (1) - . In my opinion this pattern work together 04:30:590 (1,2,3,4,1) - and this is the main transition 04:32:408 (2) -
04:32:181 (1,2) - I don't quite understand why the new combo here is not on the main downbeat transition when in all other chorus sections it was; 01:56:044 (1) - /03:30:590 (1) - . In my opinion this pattern work together 04:30:590 (1,2,3,4,1) - and this is the main transition 04:32:408 (2) -
Topic Starter
the way you map affects the way you want/can use new combos, it's no different with symmetry.
so it's:
VS
my version is more appropriate for symmetry than the suggestion.
also the 3rd kiai starts/ends differently than the other two kiai, they don't have that slow down, and this slow down ends after the kiai stars for the previous two, just compare 01:55:363 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - to 04:29:908 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - .
04:32:181 - this is the spot where the slow down ends, it has a louder sound than the previous four objects, sounds much closer to the intensity level of the next objects, i also don't see a problem with not having a new combo on a main beat, the player doesn't pay attention to these things when playing unless the new combo usage is too unreasonable.
so it's:
VS
my version is more appropriate for symmetry than the suggestion.
also the 3rd kiai starts/ends differently than the other two kiai, they don't have that slow down, and this slow down ends after the kiai stars for the previous two, just compare 01:55:363 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - to 04:29:908 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - .
04:32:181 - this is the spot where the slow down ends, it has a louder sound than the previous four objects, sounds much closer to the intensity level of the next objects, i also don't see a problem with not having a new combo on a main beat, the player doesn't pay attention to these things when playing unless the new combo usage is too unreasonable.
pimpG wrote:
the way you map affects the way you want/can use new combos, it's no different with symmetry.
my version is more appropriate for symmetry than the suggestion.
It only shows you didn't plan the symmetry properlly with the rhythm here 04:30:590 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - if you wanted it to have the triangle with only one combo, it's inconsistent and doesn't make much sense to me :/
also the 3rd kiai starts/ends differently than the other two kia It might end differently but starts in the same way compared to the previous, just need to check this 03:29:908 (1,2,3,1) - i, they don't have that slow down, and this slow down ends after the kiai stars for the previous two, just compare 01:55:363 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - to 04:29:908 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . You're making a comparision of the first chorus with the third, I'm just taking into consideration how the rhythm of the second chorus starts in the same way as the third
04:32:181 - this is the spot where the slow down ends, it has a louder sound than the previous four objects, sounds much closer to the intensity level of the next objects, i also don't see a problem with not having a new combo on a main beat, the player doesn't pay attention to these things when playing unless the new combo usage is too unreasonable.The main transition is still the sound here 04:32:408 (2) - not 04:32:181 (1) - . Indeed there's a distinction of 04:32:181 (1) - compared to the other 1/1 red ticks circles before 04:30:817 (2,3,4) - , but that distinction is nothing compared to the actual start of the chorus here 04:32:408 (2) - , it's applying NC idea for a small transition and not in a major one. I really recommend you re-consider another symmetric idea here 04:30:590 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - so that it can allow you to NC 04:32:408 (2) -
I'm sorry, but yes, it is indeed different...this is a rythm game, not a visual art game~ Additionally, your arguments do not follow your map, because if that was indeed a true and valid reason, not just a stubborn decision, you would have done the same in many other places, for example 02:01:726 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - the (9) is in the middle of a pattern of 1/4 notes, this is not "symmetricall" as you imply, they should've been the same combo with a NC at 02:01:726 (6) - . So if your reasoning is indeed a "valid" point, rework the entire NC of the map to show this is the theme of the map, not just one random section.pimpG wrote:
the way you map affects the way you want/can use new combos, it's no different with symmetry.
Additionally, this is the worst thing you could ever say about a NC :
I don't know if you actually play this game besides mapping, but the reading is part of the rythm of the player, the NCs tells a LOT about the rythm and the intensities, if you place a NC the way you did, you're implying there is intensity on that note, but there is not, it's clearly not the strong sound of the kiai. That can actually make the rythm confusing for some people and even remove a lot of the ''feel'' of the map...so yeah, you're wrong, the player DOES pay attention to NCpimpG wrote:
the player doesn't pay attention to these things when playing unless the new combo usage is too unreasonable.
If I offended you in any moment, that's not my intention, but please try to understand my points ^^"
I found a way the comboing would represent the patterns/song really well.
This way you can keep the comboing you want and the intensity of the kiai would be well represented (the triplet clearly provides an great emphasys). And of course, keeping the triplet on the same combo section would be the best thing to do as this 04:32:181 beat would come along with this one 04:32:408~
I hope the explanations made sense somehow, comboing in my view is something really subjective and considering the different kiai entry there, it feels absolutely fine.
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And allow me to speak some portuguese here real quick so I can explain myself better:
Amore, Net0 e Seto, mesmo se ele quisesse deixar do jeito q tá agora, acho q n teria tanto problema considerando que a batida que está aqui 04:32:181 (1) - já faz parte do kiai imo, e faz parte dessa ordem de combo como um tudo. Não acho que a simetria foi mal usada nessa parte, o movimento feito pelo cursor do (1) pro (2) deixa a enfase no (2) onde a batida eh mais forte bem óbvio, e o combo está desse jeito pelo motivo q expliquei acima, a batida está entre o chorus already e faz parte da pattern simetrica como um todo~ Subjetividade
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This way you can keep the comboing you want and the intensity of the kiai would be well represented (the triplet clearly provides an great emphasys). And of course, keeping the triplet on the same combo section would be the best thing to do as this 04:32:181 beat would come along with this one 04:32:408~
I hope the explanations made sense somehow, comboing in my view is something really subjective and considering the different kiai entry there, it feels absolutely fine.
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And allow me to speak some portuguese here real quick so I can explain myself better:
Amore, Net0 e Seto, mesmo se ele quisesse deixar do jeito q tá agora, acho q n teria tanto problema considerando que a batida que está aqui 04:32:181 (1) - já faz parte do kiai imo, e faz parte dessa ordem de combo como um tudo. Não acho que a simetria foi mal usada nessa parte, o movimento feito pelo cursor do (1) pro (2) deixa a enfase no (2) onde a batida eh mais forte bem óbvio, e o combo está desse jeito pelo motivo q expliquei acima, a batida está entre o chorus already e faz parte da pattern simetrica como um todo~ Subjetividade
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And in addition to that you said, the way he kept this NC is not confusing at all. The song intensity is different than 04:31:726 (4) - so there's no reason to keep on the same combo pattern of it. And as I told before, is also different than all the other kiai entrances. I don't approve the idea that strong beats needs ALWAYS to be represented with an NC, he wanted to represent the song section as a whole there, this is not confusing and it is absolutely fine in my view.Seto Kousuke wrote:
I don't know if you actually play this game besides mapping, but the reading is part of the rythm of the player, the NCs tells a LOT about the rythm and the intensities, if you place a NC the way you did, you're implying there is intensity on that note, but there is not, it's clearly not the strong sound of the kiai. That can actually make the rythm confusing for some people and even remove a lot of the ''feel'' of the map.
the player DOES pay attention to NC
All right, if you guys want to give it a try with this combo idea, I won't force a modification on it. If there's no other points or concerns @pimpG feel free to poke me :>
Topic Starter
@MkGuh i honestly like your suggestion, but it's too different from my original idea so i would rather keep D:
as for the other mod, what mkguh said is very accurate so i make his words mine.
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bossandy told me to fix some weird breaks, he also replaced a hitsound with a small delay, and we discussed the same new combo as before, but no change on the combo we are fine with it.
readded two taikosu tick sounds, but using half volume of normal notes
i also silenced some slider ticks that don't have custom hitsounds (the ones Bonsai mentioned last time)
Darcsol improved the quality of my background image
source changed to "東方風神録 ～ Mountain of Faith." as suggested by Regraz
as for the other mod, what mkguh said is very accurate so i make his words mine.
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bossandy told me to fix some weird breaks, he also replaced a hitsound with a small delay, and we discussed the same new combo as before, but no change on the combo we are fine with it.
readded two taikosu tick sounds, but using half volume of normal notes
i also silenced some slider ticks that don't have custom hitsounds (the ones Bonsai mentioned last time)
Darcsol improved the quality of my background image
source changed to "東方風神録 ～ Mountain of Faith." as suggested by Regraz
Okay, let's give it a go!
Did some IRC Modding with pimp.
We removed 3 storyboarded hitsounds that might confuse players at 01:15:590 - 02:49:681 - and 02:59:113 - (replaced them with actual clickable objects), plus fixed a perfect stack at 02:45:817 (3,4) -.
Rest seems clean to me, good job!
Re-Bubbled~
We removed 3 storyboarded hitsounds that might confuse players at 01:15:590 - 02:49:681 - and 02:59:113 - (replaced them with actual clickable objects), plus fixed a perfect stack at 02:45:817 (3,4) -.
Rest seems clean to me, good job!
Re-Bubbled~
hang on a sec
tick rate 4 is very unfitting for reasons 224318 bn's/qat's have already mentioned, and as you've said you're only using it for slidertick hitsounds, you should switch to using sliderslide samples for the few times you need it since that's a rankable option now
tick rate 4 is very unfitting for reasons 224318 bn's/qat's have already mentioned, and as you've said you're only using it for slidertick hitsounds, you should switch to using sliderslide samples for the few times you need it since that's a rankable option now
Topic Starter
i had them before as sliderslide and they don't behave the same way as slider ticks, sometimes the sliderslide don't have enough time to play the hitsound completely because it has to change sample or volume shortly after it starts.
we spoke a bit in pm, tbh i kinda just thought the option was forgotten about after the 7month hiatus ^^' pimpg's reasoning for not switching is reasonable for me
personally still think the tick rate 4 isn't a good design choice, but i'm prob the last person that should be judging someone for poor design choices, so gimme a sec to run through the map and i'll rebubble
personally still think the tick rate 4 isn't a good design choice, but i'm prob the last person that should be judging someone for poor design choices, so gimme a sec to run through the map and i'll rebubble
ok sec's up sorry for the interruption
Imagine a forum that you can send a custom msg to rank maps :O
Mordred wrote:
#bringbackiconposts
Congrats pimp! I'm glad everything got solved
Best qualification in 2K18
It is a really tough time but finally we made it
Biggest congrats to pimpG guys!
I am crying now
It is a really tough time but finally we made it
Biggest congrats to pimpG guys!
I am crying now
UndeadCapulet wrote:
Mordred wrote:
#bringbackiconposts
Ascendance wrote:
UndeadCapulet wrote:
Mordred wrote:
#bringbackiconposts
Topic Starter
yeah i'll miss the icons too ^^
this is my last map that survived v2 migration so i'm happy i managed to make it ranked
thank you everyone for your motivation, stars, mods and feedback
this is my last map that survived v2 migration so i'm happy i managed to make it ranked
thank you everyone for your motivation, stars, mods and feedback