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Depeche Mode - Wrong

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gyt
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 23 февраля 2011 г. at 21:02:34

Artist: Depeche Mode
Title: Wrong
Tags: synthpop alternative dance
BPM: 163,79
Filesize: 4950kb
Play Time: 03:09
Difficulties Available:
  1. CrossWise (1,58 stars, 155 notes)
  2. Down to Up (3,39 stars, 196 notes)
  3. Right to Left (4,82 stars, 364 notes)
Download: Depeche Mode - Wrong
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is a wrong beatmap, 15.5 months in pending. Too long.
Inspired by the official clip.

CounterClockwise diff
It's very experimental. All circles and sliders repeat the background pattern. (place both files in"10855 Depeche Mode - Wrong" folder) Download: 10855 Depeche Mode - Wrong.rar

History:
28.11.09 - some changes in Down to Up (better spacing); delete some annoying kiai times.
...
01.12.09 - xxheroxx's fixes
03.12.09 - some Kytoxid's fixes
05.12.09 - more spacing work with Down to Up and Right to Left
10.12.09 - tmokb93's fixes
19.12.09 - AImod's great spacing changes
20.12.09 - some Gens's fixes; Down to Up became easier
13.01.10 - Big update! More Gens's fixes! Wrong to Wrong remaked. Down to Up greatly changed.
17.01.10 - VanMoNky's fixes
21.01.10 - mrtn's fixes
23.02.10 - mini Sushi fix and some placement changes (Wrong to Wrong)
02.03.10 - Derekku Chan's Great Fixes. Thanks, man! Some storyboard added.
21.03.10 - Oh, it's WIP map now. I delete Wrong to Wrong diff and add WIP CounterClockwise diff,
29.03.10 - pending, bump.
15.05.10 - delete CounterClockwise diff :( Maybe now this map more rankable. Sallad4ever's fixes. Map Down to Up to the end.
12.06.10 - some RandomJibberish's fixes + Xgor's mini-fix
12.09.10 - fixed muted slider ends (I think).
14.09.10 - epilepsy warning
02.11.10 - YAY BIG UPDATE. New easy diff + remaked Down to Up (again) + K2J's and Garven's fixes of course
04.11.10 - Blue Dragon's fixes
10.11.10 - jericho2442's cool fixes
15.02.11 - oh well, some James2250's fixes.
20.02.11 - bubbled by Xgor. Thanks!
23.02.11 - Krisom's mini-fixes
15.03.11 - Ranked by Card N'FoRcE! Hooray!
Andrea
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
gyt
And too many sections, Too many silenced notes, that's bad
It's not a bug - it's a feature! If it sounds bad for you, I'm sorry. Spacing and kiai times are features too. So... :(
Thanks anyway.
Another beatmap for the graveyard?
Diasios
Mod Infos:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

All seems ok.

[Down to up]

Add breaks.
00:50:081 (8) - New combo
01:25:098 (8) - ^


[Right to Left]

Resnap all notes.
Add breaks.

00:49:071 (6) - Hidden slider D:
00:50:081 (8) - New combo
01:24:088 (6) - Hidden slider D:
01:25:098 (8) - New combo
02:22:040 (2) - Hidden slider D:
02:25:034 (1) - :lol: nice, but it's a bit confusing :S
02:31:020 (1) - ^
02:37:006 (1) - ^

02:44:002 (3) - Hidden circle D:

[Wrong to Wrong]

Resnap all notes.
Add breaks.

00:27:055 (5) - Hidden slider D:
00:45:013 (4) - ^

00:50:081 (8) - New combo
01:03:082 (11) - Hidden circle D:
01:25:098 (8) - New combo
02:25:034 (1) - Confusing :S
03:05:082 (4) - Hidden slider D:

Btw nice map, i like it :3
Starred~
Topic Starter
gyt
All fixed without new combo suggestion. I don't want to completely remake Wrong to Wrong difficulty! ;)
Kytoxid
[General]

Needs an easier difficulty.
Consider using custom combo colours.

Source? Tags?
Consider setting background colour to black.

Hitsounds are too loud when you use normal hitsounds, please soften them.

I dunno, this map just felt weird playing through it. I'll come back to it later, I guess.
Topic Starter
gyt
Needs an easier difficulty.
Oh, I'm not very good with easy difficulties. I have tried to reduce the complexity of "Down to Up" difficulty.
Consider using custom combo colours.
Do you play "Wrong to Wrong" difficulty? I use background image colours for it. I will consider for other difficulties.
Source ? Tags?
I have added some tags.
Consider setting background colour to black.
OK, I have change this setting,
Hitsounds are too loud when you use normal hitsounds, please soften them.
I have reduce normal sound to 75%. How do you like it?
Jarby
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
gyt
use distance snap
Ok, I make some work with spacing. Is it better for you? I think, "Right to Left" will be more difficult now.

I don't change anything in "Wrong to Wrong" so far. It is insane difficulty with many jumps (my first :D ). If jumps are too annoying, I delete them...
Mok
Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
I'll just mod the beats in your map, in all its forms, will not tell you to add or remove the beat <3
Remember to fix spacing after all modfiy :3

[General]
Use Grid Level 3.
In Source, write "Depeche Mode".
In Tags, write the name of the album too.
Reduce the hitsounds volume.
Choose some colors. Auto-colors aren't so beautiful.

[Down to Up]
01:06:204 (1) Seems to be offscreen, move it!
01:16:829 (1) ^
01:19:760 (1) Move it 2/4 before.
01:33:315 (8) Seems to be offscren, move it.

[Right to Left]
00:32:682 (1) Seems to be offscreen.
00:33:964 (6) ^
00:36:162 (6) ^
00:40:558 (9) ^
00:44:222 (1) ^
00:46:787 (10) ^
01:05:105 (1) ^
01:11:333 (2) ^
01:16:829 (2) ^
01:21:958 (9) ^
01:50:168 (7) ^
01:54:565 (1) ^
03:07:472 (10) ^

[Wrong to Wrong]
00:30:300 (3) The end of the slider seems offscreen.
00:58:517 (2) Seems offscreen.
01:16:829 (2) The end of the slider seems offscreen.
01:18:294 (5) ^
01:21:958 (9) The beginning of the slider seems offscreen.
01:25:255 (7) ^
01:25:988 (8) New Combo.
01:31:850 (5) ^
01:33:315 (8) ^
01:49:069 (4) The end of the slider seems offscreen.
01:56:030 (7) ^
The rest of the long sliders are like the upper ones, but the map is ok!

That's all! I love this map <3 star!
Topic Starter
gyt
Almost all fixed. Thanks.
Use Grid Level 3.
I use it only in "Wrong to Wrong", sorry.
Reduce the hitsounds volume.
I don't want to reduce it! But.. Tell me, which concrete volume you like (for soft and normal) and I try it.
NoHitter
Please check your spacing with AImod (Ctrl +Shift +A)

Also there are three huge empty spaces in the start of the difficulties. Use breaks to fill them please.

Wrong to Wrong
02:19:478 (1) - Storyboard a Warning that tells people that this section is x2 BPM?

Other than that very unique use of silenced timing sections
Topic Starter
gyt
First, thanks for AImod! I didn't know about it. I made big work with spacing and now it looks good.
Also there are three huge empty spaces in the start of the difficulties. Use breaks to fill them please.
I don't understand why, but insertion breaks strongly increase difficulty level. For example, for "Down to Up" 3.75 -> 4.27. So I don't want it.
02:19:478 (1) - Storyboard a Warning that tells people that this section is x2 BPM?
There isn't any x2 BPM sections. All sliders are faster in "Wrong to Wrong".
Gens
[General]
  1. Sorry to say it, but you need an easier difficulty.
  2. Replace current Source for "Sounds of the Universe".
  3. You need to delete the underlines in the tags. Also, "Depeche Mode" and "Sounds of the Universe" are already used in other fields, so you should delete them.
[Timing]
  1. I got this:

    BPM: 163.79
    Offset: 24,080

    Use this if you wish.
[All Difficulties]
  1. Yes, you need to fill those places with breaks in order to get it ranked. The fact that it makes it harder is just a bug. :?
00:54:048 (1) - You used Kiai Time at 00:48:061 (4), so why not here?
01:34:048 - I don't think a Kiai fountain fits here.
01:56:030 - Same.

[Down to Up]
  1. I understand why so many sliders, but the problem is that, almost all the notes aren't far from the center. It may seem a bit boring for other people.
  2. You can try to go and delete all unused inherited timing sections here, since it can bring lag to other people's machines (like mine).
02:21:310 - This difficulty should end here, at least in my opinion.

[Right to Left]

02:44:757 - Starting from here, most combo markers are kinda messed up. Recheck them if you can.
02:25:034 (1) - The start point of this slider is hidden.
02:43:065 (1) - Hidden.
02:59:096 (4,1) - Kind of confusing, I think it's unrankable.

[Wrong to Wrong]
  1. Woah, be careful with this difficulty. I think I understand why "Wrong to Wrong", but everything looks like a complete mess. o_o;
00:46:005 (8) - Hidden for me.

~ ~ ~

I really like the hitsounds. Great job. :)
The song is catchy too.
Topic Starter
gyt
All fixed without
01:34:048 - I don't think a Kiai fountain fits here.
and
00:46:005 (8) - Hidden for me.
Sorry to say it, but you need an easier difficulty.
I made "Down to Up" easier again. I start to get tired of making this beatmap, so I don't will make another difficulty.

[Down to Up]
I understand why so many sliders, but the problem is that, almost all the notes aren't far from the center. It may seem a bit boring for other people.
Notes in "Right to Left" and "Wrong to Wrong" aren't far from the center too.

[Wrong to Wrong]
Woah, be careful with this difficulty. I think I understand why "Wrong to Wrong", but everything looks like a complete mess. o_o;
Lol, I was inspired by the background image. Look at it and notes - complete mess, yes, but I think it's cool.
aRiskOfRain
Right then.

General:

Whoever timed this is a god.

Down To Up:

Fine.

Right To Left:

2 19 478/ Spinner instead?
And the same for those other odd ones.

Wrong to Wrong:


Right, I don't this difficulty. I hate to be so blunt, but the other two were so incredibly stylish, this map kind of puts it all off. There's nothing wrong with it technically, but it doesn't have the same finessé the others had.

Anyway, star.
Lokamp
Your map has an original style of mapping, changing from mode to mode!
Unfortunatly, these modes's spacing isn't always so awesome...
Especially, I'm talking about slider on other sliders, that make maps harder to understand and to play [examples on Wrong to Wrong mode: 00:44:588 (3,4) , 00:47:886 (2,3)]
But I've seen a good hitsound-placing for this map, and that's enough to lend you my star ;3
Just try to create an easier mode, as previous (and more skilled) modders said...
I'll be back again when overall spacing is fixed ;3
Vanmonky
As your request.

Read this first for the icon explanation.
- [?] Asking for the second thought.
- [!] Fatal error. You have to fix this for sure.
- [No icon] Only a suggestion.

[General]
1. Why don't you use the custom hitsound? Use hitnormal-normal as hitsoft-clap.
2. The kiai times are kinda odd.
3. Some inherited timing points are est right on notes. Move them a little off lately since players click early.

[Down to Up.]
01:02:174 (4) - This slider is odd. Change the red point to white point. [!]
01:07:486 (1) - Move one small grid up.
02:09:219 (6) - This hidden slider will be kinda hard for an easy diff. [?]

[Right to Left]
1. A little boring. Consider using other pattern?
2. These dark colors are hiding the notes to the background. [!]
02:24:973 (10) - This slider is like a note. Move it somewhere. [!]
02:25:340 (1) - Overlapping slider IMO. [!]
02:31:201 (1) - ^ [!]
02:37:063 (1) - A little hard to analyze with these slider stacks and the long slider. [!]
02:48:787 (1) - Overlapping slider IMO. [!]
02:50:069 (1) - No sudden jump like this. Spacing error! [!]
02:53:916 (7,8,9,1,1) - Confusing stacks. [!]
03:09:304 (1) - Make the sound soft.

[Wrong to Wrong]
1. It's hard for me to follow those odd-shaped sliders.
02:30:835 (9) - Move it somewhere.
02:31:201 (1) - Overlapping slider. [!]
03:03:075 (4) - Hidden note. orz
Star.
Topic Starter
gyt
Why don't you use the custom hitsound? Use hitnormal-normal as hitsoft-clap.
Maybe I use it. Next time.

All fixed without overlapping sliders. They not so overlapped, I think.
mrtn
set offset to 1724 on all diffs.
set the same preview time on all diffs

[wrong to wrong]
02:19:478 (1) - ugly slider, you might want to change it to a spinner or something
02:25:340 (1) - ^
02:31:201 (1) - ^
02:37:063 (1) - ^
03:00:511 (3) - ugly slider
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