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Topic Starter
lcclarke
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
frost-b-spec
i like this song.

[All]
this map is so long.
about 2 or 3 minutes are preferable.
set preview point.(Timing→Set Current Potision as Preview)

[Normal]
rhythm is also ok.
but , very harder...(spacing etc)
ex.
00:39:609(2,3,4,5,6) - Coming in succession is undesirable.
00:47:459(2,3,4,5) - lol spacing. this diff is normal.
00:53:667(2) - ditto
00:55:029(1,2,1,2,1,2) - Coming in succession is undesirable.

many other...

fight!
Topic Starter
lcclarke
1st.Fix
Well,think you for the suggestions.I have fixed some notes distance,successions and set a preview point.
About "this map is so long",I think the "Epic chorus" of this song are the rear part,so if I cut it down,it feels strange I think.
About "00:55:029(1,2,1,2,1,2)-Coming in succession is undesirable",I think to be a beatmap,some special or funny part is necessary,so I made these succession.
Therefore I need suggestions of more people,thinks a lot.
Topic Starter
lcclarke
2010.1.27
Well,some people said the normal is a little difficult,so I fix it.
[All]Fix distance of some sliders and notes and change several sliders.
[Normal]Removed two 2X speed sliders and replaced some notes.
[Rhythm]Replaced some notes,fix the overlapping sliders.
fjyasw
Good Job!技术宅拯救世界!
frost-b-spec
thx request :)

1st mod and...

[All]
check spacing(Especially, [Normal])

[kiai]
00:53:067 - 1:31:197
02:20:543 - 02:57:553
03:55:590 - end

[Normal]
02:31:478(1,1,1,1,1) - too hard...
02:41:571(1,2) - Coming in succession is undesirable.
02:52:786(1) - start 02:52:646,end 02:54:188
03:30:917(3,4) - not x2 slider(too hard)

The star is passed when improving!
fight!!

[Feb 3 Edit]
great! star~
Topic Starter
lcclarke

frost-b-spec wrote:

thx request :)

1st mod and...

[All]
check spacing(Especially, [Normal]) Yeah,done

[kiai]
00:53:067 - 1:31:197 I think it's too long to accept,the kiai time is fine now.
02:20:543 - 02:57:553 I consider kiai time are not always the same part,make some differents are better.
03:55:590 - end

[Normal]
02:31:478(1,1,1,1,1) - too hard... Done.
02:41:571(1,2) - Coming in succession is undesirable. Well,it dosen't matter I think.
02:52:786(1) - start 02:52:646,end 02:54:188 Done.
03:30:917(3,4) - not x2 slider(too hard) Done.

The star is passed when improving!
fight!!
Thank you very much! :D
LKs
\LK mod/
一上手就感觉很好,键位很舒适

normal
我喜欢你这种严谨的做图风格,但是有些地方的间距还是要注意的
[00:21:65] 向左一个格
[00:34:00] 新颜色
[00:35:12] 这种的间距问题就比较大,虽然美观但这样的话不易于玩
解决方法1,在2加上新颜色。2,更改间距
[00:36:22] 新颜色,但这个不强求
[00:37:36] 同[00:35:12]
[00:42:41] 新颜色
[00:43:81] 2,3,4 ,5,6间距拉大一点
[00:55:29] 这个部分,虽然间距有些不对但是没问题,主要是做到圆圈和slider的结束位置要完全重合
[01:23:34] 这个6,7,8 要么改变颜色,要么调整,有些BAT不愿意在NORMAL里面出现JUMP的所以最好改一下
[01:25:45] 这个spinner,你可以考虑向我这样
[01:59:23] 距离不对了
[02:01:47] 新颜色
[02:09:32] 间距调一下,不用非注重在原点上 ,另外马上之后的一部分的间距有点奇怪。。
[02:14:93] 向上一格
[02:45:21] 向左或者下一格
[02:47:17] 间距过紧了,可以考虑加大slider的斜率来获取间距
[02:57:55] 其实我认为到这里就可以结束了,你之后的歌唱部分做的不错,但是太靠后了,中间的很多间奏实在让人提不起精神,我建议你以这里为结尾
这个难度,只要注意了我说的间距,或者还有一些我没提到的,就很完美了,gogo

hard

这个。。hard做的很精彩,但是间距的问题也比较大,这个我有点难以下手。。
我建议你细细的在edit里面过一遍,看到有不合适的就改一下,怎么说呢,为了美观是没错,但是有些的美观会导致你的图被unrank,所以你应该寻找一种既有间距又美观的键位
同样的,结尾处应该短一点,实在有点长了

如果有什么新的进展,PM我吧,我也会隔几天来看看这个帖子
再改一改,我会给你kudosu star
其实我现在就想给你的,但是我认为还能更完美,这有潜力成为高评价的rank歌曲

STAR FOR YOU!
kino77
很不错的图~对节奏的把握很到位~


[Normal]
00:04:281 (4) - 与3在一条线上?
00:14:936 (2) - new combo?
00:20:543 (1,2,3) - 间距?
00:24:468 (1) - 这个new combo移到2处?
00:28:954 (7,8) - 间距?
00:33:440 (4,5,6) - ^5 new combo?
00:36:244 (8,9) - ^尽量不要把note放在slider上?
00:40:730 (3,4) - 间距与1,2保持一致?
00:45:216 (7) - 取消new combo?
00:55:029 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 不建议这么摆放,很难被读懂,可以改成01:11:852 (1)的样子?
01:05:403 (5,6,7) - 间距与3,4保持一致?
01:23:347 (6) - 掉转slider?
01:42:973 (1) - 取消new combo?
01:49:702 (3) - 与2在一条线上?
01:54:749 (1,2,3,4) - 间距不对,建议用slider替换
02:01:478 (7) - new combo?
02:08:207 (4) - ^与前句保持一致?
02:12:693 (1) - 取消new combo?
02:14:655 (3) - new combo?
02:21:665 (1)~02:29:515 (5) - 个人不是很喜欢频繁的new combo,且希望这里所有的间距保持一致
02:32:599 (1) - 向左一格?
02:31:478 (1,1,1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo?
02:33:721 (1,1) - 取消new combo?
02:41:852 (2) - Unrankable slider
02:52:646 (1) - 往后移到红线处开始?
04:05:683 (1,1,1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo?

[Rhythm]
00:22:786 (7) - new combo?
00:24:468 (1) - 这个new combo移到2处?
00:35:403 (1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo?
00:37:786 (1,1,1) - ^
00:43:814 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
00:54:188 (5) - new combo?
00:55:029 (1) - 同Normal?
00:59:515 (4) - 往上一些?
01:19:702 (3) - 这个跳的夸张了点,建议把slider掉转一下
01:42:973 (1) - 取消new combo?
02:11:291 (2) - 完全被1挡住了,不建议这么放...
02:41:852 (2) - Unrankable slider
02:58:534 (1) - 这部分4个note一个new combo?
04:05:683 (1,1,1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo?


Star~
Topic Starter
lcclarke

LKs wrote:

\LK mod/
一上手就感觉很好,键位很舒适

normal
我喜欢你这种严谨的做图风格,但是有些地方的间距还是要注意的
[00:21:65] 向左一个格 Done
[00:34:00] 新颜色 Done
[00:35:12] 这种的间距问题就比较大,虽然美观但这样的话不易于玩
解决方法1,在2加上新颜色。2,更改间距 Done
[00:36:22] 新颜色,但这个不强求 Done
[00:37:36] 同[00:35:12] Done
[00:42:41] 新颜色 Done
[00:43:81] 2,3,4 ,5,6间距拉大一点 Done
[00:55:29] 这个部分,虽然间距有些不对但是没问题,主要是做到圆圈和slider的结束位置要完全重合
[01:23:34] 这个6,7,8 要么改变颜色,要么调整,有些BAT不愿意在NORMAL里面出现JUMP的所以最好改一下 Done
[01:25:45] 这个spinner,你可以考虑向我这样 Done[attachment=0:67000].PNG[/attachment:67000]
[01:59:23] 距离不对了 Done
[02:01:47] 新颜色 Done
[02:09:32] 间距调一下,不用非注重在原点上 ,另外马上之后的一部分的间距有点奇怪。。Done
[02:14:93] 向上一格 Done
[02:45:21] 向左或者下一格 Done
[02:47:17] 间距过紧了,可以考虑加大slider的斜率来获取间距 Done
[02:57:55] 其实我认为到这里就可以结束了,你之后的歌唱部分做的不错,但是太靠后了,中间的很多间奏实在让人提不起精神,我建议你以这里为结尾
这个我觉得2:57太短了,我觉得一首歌都有它的独特之处,而后面的这一段就是与前面不同的独特之处,我以为一首歌在第2个重复之前的衔接部分是一首歌的好坏的关键之一,也是精华所在,而之后才是高潮部分.衔接的这一段更多是用来欣赏的,以我的做法不会设计得很复杂而干扰了放松下来欣赏的状态.而我也会努力设计得各个部分有所不同,有所特色而防止审美疲劳.
以上为个人愚见.

这个难度,只要注意了我说的间距,或者还有一些我没提到的,就很完美了,gogo

hard

这个。。hard做的很精彩,但是间距的问题也比较大,这个我有点难以下手。。
我建议你细细的在edit里面过一遍,看到有不合适的就改一下,怎么说呢,为了美观是没错,但是有些的美观会导致你的图被unrank,所以你应该寻找一种既有间距又美观的键位
同样的,结尾处应该短一点,实在有点长了 你要说过一遍的话,我何止过了一遍,那是N遍了,不过当然还有疏漏的地方,我会仔细看看的,多谢了

如果有什么新的进展,PM我吧,我也会隔几天来看看这个帖子
再改一改,我会给你kudosu star
其实我现在就想给你的,但是我认为还能更完美,这有潜力成为高评价的rank歌曲

STAR FOR YOU!
多谢抽空帮我改进!!~ :)
LKs
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Breeze
看前面的mod对你评价都很高,应该是很不错的map : )
timing 我就不看了,因为我也对那个不擅长

[General]
  1. 背景图片1600x1200的分辨率绝对大了,降到1024x768或者800x600就行
  2. osb文件没有用到,请删除在full submit
  3. source里已经有IDOLM@STER XENOGLOSSIA ED. tag里就不用加IDOLM@STERXENOGLOSSIA
  4. 最低的rarely stack现在是unrankable的,至少请移到左边第二格
  5. 第一个note开始得比较快,所以设置countdown毫无意义(不会显示出来),所以请去掉countdown
[Normal]
  1. 对于[Normal]来说感觉难了点,我个人并不喜欢太小的note,特别是我最喜欢的normal,不过这不是什么问题,看你自己的想法了:/
  2. 00:12:132, 00:12:693, 00:13:253, 00:13:814 - timing section, 这4个timing section 都应该设置得提前点
    记住一点: 凡是有音量变化或者BPm改变的timing section, 都应该设置在开始这个变化的note之前一点而不是刚好在那个note上. 因为玩的时候点早了的话会导致不一样的音量/BPM
  3. 00:35:123 (1) - spacing有点问题, normal里最好不要出现非常规的spacing
  4. 00:37:366 (1) - ^
  5. 01:23:347 (1,2) - 这个spacing在normal里也太夸张了lol, 这个一定要改改
  6. 03:36:665 - 说实话,从这里开始的空白音效听起来虽然不错,但是玩起来就不知道自己是不是miss了,我建议别用空白音效,用小声点的音效就好了
  7. 04:05:683 (1,1,1,1,1) - normal的jump...好吧,现在都喜欢这么用么,我没什么好抱怨的:/
[Rhythm]
  1. 01:19:702 (3) - new combo, 因为jump
  2. 02:10:450 (1) - 明明和前面一样的节拍间距但是却是2倍spacing,这个稍微有点让人无法理解,玩的时候瞬间反应不过来:/
  3. 02:58:534 (1) - 距离前面spinner结束只有1/4拍,我不知道现在这种是不是rankable的 :/
  4. 03:36:665 - 跟normal一样的sound建议
不错的map
star

Topic Starter
lcclarke

kino77 wrote:

很不错的图~对节奏的把握很到位~


[Normal]
00:04:281 (4) - 与3在一条线上? Done
00:14:936 (2) - new combo? 这个我觉得没关系~
00:20:543 (1,2,3) - 间距? 这里的间距没问题~
00:24:468 (1) - 这个new combo移到2处? Done
00:28:954 (7,8) - 间距? Done
00:33:440 (4,5,6) - ^5 new combo? 这个~我没找到~>.<
00:36:244 (8,9) - ^尽量不要把note放在slider上? 这里我已按照LKs的建议修改~
00:40:730 (3,4) - 间距与1,2保持一致? 1与2之间是0.5拍的间隔,2与3之间是1拍,这个间距一样不就有问题了么~>A<
00:45:216 (7) - 取消new combo? Done
00:55:029 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 不建议这么摆放,很难被读懂,可以改成01:11:852 (1)的样子? 这里是我的创意之处,如果前后一样,未免没有特点了吧,同一段旋律,用不同的Note形式来表示不是更好么,我认为作为Normal难度,不费吹灰之力,没有一点机关一样的地方,太简单了点吧.虽然是Normal难度,我认为也要搞点小花招来调剂调剂或者让他Retry,否则那真是平淡无奇了.改简单是件很容易的事情. ^_^
01:05:403 (5,6,7) - 间距与3,4保持一致? Done
01:23:347 (6) - 掉转slider? Done
01:42:973 (1) - 取消new combo? Done
01:49:702 (3) - 与2在一条线上? 这里主要是因为间距的问题,因为后面的间距是正常的,所以这里也要和它一样比较好吧.
01:54:749 (1,2,3,4) - 间距不对,建议用slider替换 Done
02:01:478 (7) - new combo? 这里是New combo.
02:08:207 (4) - ^与前句保持一致? Done
02:12:693 (1) - 取消new combo? Done
02:14:655 (3) - new combo? 这个没关系,我前面改动了
02:21:665 (1)~02:29:515 (5) - 个人不是很喜欢频繁的new combo,且希望这里所有的间距保持一致 Done
02:32:599 (1) - 向左一格? Done
02:31:478 (1,1,1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo? 这里我是希望搞出个多彩的效果.
02:33:721 (1,1) - 取消new combo? Done
02:41:852 (2) - Unrankable slider 这个不是Unrankable slider吧,不能重叠是指Slider自己不能重叠自己,因为这种Slider我以前在很多Ranked map中见过.
02:52:646 (1) - 往后移到红线处开始? 这个是那个日本朋友建议提前1/4拍,这样感觉更好
04:05:683 (1,1,1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo? 这里也是多彩效果.

[Rhythm]
00:22:786 (7) - new combo? 这个我觉得不合适
00:24:468 (1) - 这个new combo移到2处? Done
00:35:403 (1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo? 多彩效果
00:37:786 (1,1,1) - ^
00:43:814 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^ 这里除了多彩效果以外,还有一个迷惑作用
00:54:188 (5) - new combo? 我想这个没关系
00:55:029 (1) - 同Normal? 相同的创意
00:59:515 (4) - 往上一些? 往上移一点就不是正常的间距了
01:19:702 (3) - 这个跳的夸张了点,建议把slider掉转一下 这个方向是对的呀,如果调转不是出问题了~
01:42:973 (1) - 取消new combo? Done
02:11:291 (2) - 完全被1挡住了,不建议这么放... Done,我把它往下挪了一点
02:41:852 (2) - Unrankable slider 应该可以
02:58:534 (1) - 这部分4个note一个new combo? 我也是想这里颜色绚丽一点
04:05:683 (1,1,1,1,1) - 保持第一个,取消其余的new combo? 嗯~也是这样


Star~
十分感谢你宝贵的时间,多谢了~ :)
Topic Starter
lcclarke

LKs wrote:

aha~

normal

[00:12:69] 打开timing,把这条绿线声音减小1格(这里的音量就变成第5格了) Done
[00:13:25] 这里也减小一格(这里的音量就变成第7格了) Done
[00:13:81] 这里也减小一格(这里的音量就变成第9格了),然后你可以在后面再加一条线把声音调回最大 Done
[00:14:93](2,3) finish音效? 这里我觉得不适合添加Finish
[02:52:64] 这个spinner开始在[02:53:06]如何? 我感觉提前点转的更舒服

rhythm

[00:39:60] slider结尾地方和圆圈3有一点不齐了,对齐它 Done
[00:49:70] finish音效 Done
[00:59:79] 这个不好看 :( 啊哈,这里我是为了搞点不寻常用了这种的
[01:19:70] new combo Done

这图简直越看越好,你要勤劳一点多找人让map快点rank了啊
kudosu star!
我想起了一句广告词:劳动创造美好未来. >A<

Breeze wrote:

看前面的mod对你评价都很高,应该是很不错的map : )
timing 我就不看了,因为我也对那个不擅长

[General]
  1. 背景图片1600x1200的分辨率绝对大了,降到1024x768或者800x600就行 Done
  2. osb文件没有用到,请删除在full submit Done
  3. source里已经有IDOLM@STER XENOGLOSSIA ED. tag里就不用加IDOLM@STERXENOGLOSSIA Done
  4. 最低的rarely stack现在是unrankable的,至少请移到左边第二格 Done
    [attachment=1:fbc92]00.jpg[/attachment:fbc92]
  5. 第一个note开始得比较快,所以设置countdown毫无意义(不会显示出来),所以请去掉countdown Done
    [attachment=0:fbc92]02.jpg[/attachment:fbc92]
[Normal]
  1. 对于[Normal]来说感觉难了点,我个人并不喜欢太小的note,特别是我最喜欢的normal,不过这不是什么问题,看你自己的想法了:/
  2. 00:12:132, 00:12:693, 00:13:253, 00:13:814 - timing section, 这4个timing section 都应该设置得提前点
    记住一点: 凡是有音量变化或者BPm改变的timing section, 都应该设置在开始这个变化的note之前一点而不是刚好在那个note上. 因为玩的时候点早了的话会导致不一样的音量/BPM 好建议!Done
  3. 00:35:123 (1) - spacing有点问题, normal里最好不要出现非常规的spacing Done
  4. 00:37:366 (1) - ^ Done
  5. 01:23:347 (1,2) - 这个spacing在normal里也太夸张了lol, 这个一定要改改 Done
  6. 03:36:665 - 说实话,从这里开始的空白音效听起来虽然不错,但是玩起来就不知道自己是不是miss了,我建议别用空白音效,用小声点的音效就好了 这里我觉得,如果用小音量的,也听不见什么,反而有Sliderside的呼呼声,所以我就这样设计了
  7. 04:05:683 (1,1,1,1,1) - normal的jump...好吧,现在都喜欢这么用么,我没什么好抱怨的:/
>A<

[Rhythm]
  1. 01:19:702 (3) - new combo, 因为jump Done
  2. 02:10:450 (1) - 明明和前面一样的节拍间距但是却是2倍spacing,这个稍微有点让人无法理解,玩的时候瞬间反应不过来:/ 这里本来是在上面一点的,但是有人说被前面一个Slider完全遮住了,不太好,于是我就拿下来了点,让它们起点重合了
  3. 02:58:534 (1) - 距离前面spinner结束只有1/4拍,我不知道现在这种是不是rankable的 :/ 这里我也有点担心,我需要更多人的建议
  4. 03:36:665 - 跟normal一样的sound建议
不错的map
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多谢天然风的指点,有些东西,不是新手能知道的.
ignorethis
just suggestions

<Normal>
Circle size +1
01:30:076 (1) - silence this at the end
02:20:543 (1,1) - these normal hitsounds sound bad
03:15:216 (5) - remove finish
03:36:805 (1) - don't completely silence this part, it's hard to hear the notes and will reduce acc
03:53:347 (6) - remove finish

<Hard>
01:30:076 (1) - same with normal
02:20:543 (1,1) - same
03:13:253 (3) - this silence doesn't fit
03:36:805 (1) - same

great map for mapping freshman. star'd, PM me when you need a pubble.
tsuka
beautiful ~^^

but it still has some trouble in this map :P

general:

there are lots of needless newcombo , pls don't set the too many newcombo just for trick
so I don't wanna check all about it

Rhythm:
it's a soft song , so u'd better to set the OA -1
00:14:235 (1,2,3,1,2) - really hard to read :p in fact , it not need 1/8 beat imo
just put the streams enough or make a slider like this

00:55:310 (2) - hidden slider sorry u have to move it to other space

03:26:151 (2) - ^

02:11:291 (2) - ^

02:01:057 - put a note on it imo

02:41:852 (2) - ╮(╯▽╰)╭ I don't think any bat can pass it

normal :

02:41:852 (2) - hidden slider and it's hard to read for the newbie
others fine for me

at the last
if i have time , I'll back with the hitsounds suggestion :D

anyway , keep on going ^^
LKs
为什么ign和触卡要说英语lol
Topic Starter
lcclarke

ignorethis wrote:

just suggestions

<Normal>
Circle size +1 Done
01:30:076 (1) - silence this at the end Done
02:20:543 (1,1) - these normal hitsounds sound bad Done
03:15:216 (5) - remove finish Done
03:36:805 (1) - don't completely silence this part, it's hard to hear the notes and will reduce acc Done
03:53:347 (6) - remove finish Done

<Hard>
01:30:076 (1) - same with normal Done
02:20:543 (1,1) - same Done
03:13:253 (3) - this silence doesn't fit Done
03:36:805 (1) - same Done

great map for mapping freshman. star'd, PM me when you need a pubble.
Thanks a lot.Good modding for hitsound.
Topic Starter
lcclarke

tsukamaete wrote:

beautiful ~^^

but it still has some trouble in this map :P

general:

there are lots of needless newcombo , pls don't set the too many newcombo just for trick
so I don't wanna check all about it

Rhythm:
it's a soft song , so u'd better to set the OA -1
00:14:235 (1,2,3,1,2) - really hard to read :p in fact , it not need 1/8 beat imo
just put the streams enough or make a slider like this

00:55:310 (2) - hidden slider sorry u have to move it to other space

03:26:151 (2) - ^

02:11:291 (2) - ^

02:01:057 - put a note on it imo

02:41:852 (2) - ╮(╯▽╰)╭ I don't think any bat can pass it

normal :

02:41:852 (2) - hidden slider and it's hard to read for the newbie
others fine for me

at the last
if i have time , I'll back with the hitsounds suggestion :D

anyway , keep on going ^^
Thank you for these good advices,and I set some new combo just want to make it more colorful. :)
Crazy Jay
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