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tarolabo - NijiBishox1HadairoSenjoSenjo [Taiko]

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Nyan
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017년 7월 9일 일요일 at 오후 6:22:53

Artist: tarolabo
Title: NijiBishox1HadairoSenjoSenjo
Source: BMS
BPM: 130
Filesize: 3180kb
Play Time: 02:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.41 stars, 339 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (6.57 stars, 923 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.25 stars, 155 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3.42 stars, 509 notes)
  5. Oni (4.78 stars, 719 notes)
Download: tarolabo - NijiBishox1HadairoSenjoSenjo
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Main BPM is 260

Thanks for modding.
OzzyOzrock, Sayaka-, bananannian, Volta, Coro, nyanmi-1828, katacheh, Invective,
xtrem3x, k3v227
OzzyOzrock
[General]
You're gonna need Kantan Futsuu Muzu Oni if you want this ranked :p
Please try to not make volume lower than 30% ;o;

[Baby Diff]
00:38:588 (39,40,41,43) - change these to 'k', so it's (d d d k d) THEN (k k k d k)?
01:34:360 (60) - change to 'k', so it's not d k d k d again?
01:41:745 (71) - then 'k' here, so sound is consistent with ^

Rest is good :3
[Taiko Oni]
00:12:742 (15,16,17,18) - I think dd dk is better, because more emphasis on keyboard sound :x, but don is ok too if you want the high pitch sounds to be katu
00:16:780 (37,38) - delete, since there's no sound here like 00:17:703 (42,43) - ?
00:22:203 (69,70,71,72,77,78,79,80) - i think kkdd is better for both
00:36:973 (150,151,152,153,158,159,160,161) - ^ same, if you choose to add
00:41:011 (175,176,177,178) - sounds more like kddd, but if you want flow, I guess can stay :p
01:44:976 (783,784) - not 'd' for these like usual?
01:45:437 (789,790,791,792,793,794,795) - sounds more like kkddkkd like before :x
01:46:129 (798,799,800) - ddk fits more I think

Sooo crazy XD, but well made!! But yeah, if you want rank, need more diffs ;3;
Post again in my queue with your other map if you ever have the chance :^)
Topic Starter
Nyan

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[General]
You're gonna need Kantan Futsuu Muzu Oni if you want this ranked :p Okay~
Please try to not make volume lower than 30% ;o; whole audio volume, offset, and volume has changed

[Baby Diff]
00:38:588 (39,40,41,43) - change these to 'k', so it's (d d d k d) THEN (k k k d k)? Changed
01:34:360 (60) - change to 'k', so it's not d k d k d again? repeating same pattern is necessary for beginner diff. I will keep this
01:41:745 (71) - then 'k' here, so sound is consistent with ^

Rest is good :3
[Taiko Oni]
00:12:742 (15,16,17,18) - I think dd dk is better, because more emphasis on keyboard sound :x, but don is ok too if you want the high pitch sounds to be katu I will not fix this, but in lesser diff(Muzukashii, etc.) this will be accepted
00:16:780 (37,38) - delete, since there's no sound here like 00:17:703 (42,43) - ? It has a sound there. keep
00:22:203 (69,70,71,72,77,78,79,80) - i think kkdd is better for both kkdd makes the base sound(d) fit at weird position. keep
00:36:973 (150,151,152,153,158,159,160,161) - ^ same, if you choose to add
00:41:011 (175,176,177,178) - sounds more like kddd, but if you want flow, I guess can stay :p This is good. Changed
01:44:976 (783,784) - not 'd' for these like usual? kkd for drum sound. keep
01:45:437 (789,790,791,792,793,794,795) - sounds more like kkddkkd like before :x keep.
01:46:129 (798,799,800) - ddk fits more I think dkd for drum sound. keep

Sooo crazy XD, but well made!! But yeah, if you want rank, need more diffs ;3;
Post again in my queue with your other map if you ever have the chance :^)
Thanks for modding! I really appreciate.
Kurokotei
Hi! From my M4M queue
tarololololabo

[General]

  1. Timing must be the same in every diff, so you have to keep 260 BPM parts and the slowdown in Kantan (it may sound stupid but yes)
  2. I really recommend you to rename the current Futsuu to Muzukashii, the current Muzukashii to Oni and the current Oni to Inner Oni, because people will complain about spread if you don't do this lol
  3. Uncheck countdown, widescreen support and letterbox during breaks in song setup
  4. I don't think the 16.75 BPM at the end is a good idea, but I can't really tell/list]

[Kantan]
Remove useless inherited points
HP and OD4 pls, it's a Kantan but still, it doesn't need HP/OD0 lol
  1. 00:13:296 (9) - d? to make a reverse pattern with the previous one
  2. 00:23:911 (23,24) - change these to k? to vary a bit
  3. 00:31:296 (32,33) - ^
  4. 00:56:680 (5,6,7) - kkk? to make a reverse pattern
  5. 00:58:987 (9) - change to k?
  6. 01:36:765 - add a k? to be consistent with the previous pattern
  7. 01:37:227 (67) - d if you followed the suggestion above
  8. 01:58:719 (101) - idk, it follows the song but I'm not sure about this one

[Oni]

  1. 01:33:650 (651,652,653,654,655,656,657) - change to kdkkdkd? follows the piano better imo
  2. 01:36:419 (691,692,693,694,695,696,697) - ^
  3. 01:37:573 (704,705,706,707) - what about this? it follows the piano better

That's about all, Oni is pretty solid but the spread is really bad imo, so you'll need to make another Futsuu and rename the current one to Muzu, etc...
*throws stars because tarololololabo*

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Nyan

Sayaka- wrote:

[General]

  1. Timing must be the same in every diff, so you have to keep 260 BPM parts and the slowdown in Kantan (it may sound stupid but yes) DONE
  2. I really recommend you to rename the current Futsuu to Muzukashii, the current Muzukashii to Oni and the current Oni to Inner Oni, because people will complain about spread if you don't do this lol I will not do this but I will reduce the difficulty
  3. Uncheck countdown, widescreen support and letterbox during breaks in song setup DONE
  4. I don't think the 16.75 BPM at the end is a good idea, but I can't really tell Changed to 130BPM, 0.13x


[Kantan]
Remove useless inherited points DOND
HP and OD4 pls, it's a Kantan but still, it doesn't need HP/OD0 lol HP2, OD4
  1. 00:13:296 (9) - d? to make a reverse pattern with the previous one deleted.
  2. 00:23:911 (23,24) - change these to k? to vary a bit second one is changed
  3. 00:31:296 (32,33) - ^ no.
  4. 00:56:680 (5,6,7) - kkk? to make a reverse pattern ok
  5. 00:58:987 (9) - change to k? no.
  6. 01:36:765 - add a k? to be consistent with the previous pattern added k on 01:37:688 (68) -
  7. 01:37:227 (67) - d if you followed the suggestion above
  8. 01:58:719 (101) - idk, it follows the song but I'm not sure about this one

[Oni]

  1. 01:33:650 (651,652,653,654,655,656,657) - change to kdkkdkd? follows the piano better imo
  2. 01:36:419 (691,692,693,694,695,696,697) - ^
  3. 01:37:573 (704,705,706,707) - what about this? it follows the piano better no. this is the style of entire map.

    Changed. This is my best attempt
Thanks for modding. I will try to make Futsuu and Muzu better
bananannian
That title tho.

Hi! From your forum M4M taiko queue.
I am pretty thorough, so don't be annoyed if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu


[Kantan]
00:21:603 - add k? Match repetition of 00:20:219 (17,18), and 1/1 quintuplet should not be too difficult for Kantan players.
00:36:372 - ^
01:16:920 (36) - change to K to match the electronic cymbal(?)
01:37:688 (68) - change to d would match piano pitch, but if you don't want that many dkd or kdk's then no change
01:37:688 (68) - change to k to match pitch difference as well as 01:34:457 (63)
01:45:073 (82) - same as 01:37:688 (68)

[Futsuu]
Too hard for Futsuu really. Especially stuff like 00:28:526 (53,54,55,56), 00:45:142 (97,98,99,100) and 01:37:227 (108,109,110,111,112,113), and the almost constant 1/1 with some 1/2 at the second kiai is at Muzu level.

Actually you should just rename it to Muzu and call it a day. 8-)

01:22:458 (33) - 5% hitsounding? ayy lmao

Most of the note placement are good, it's just that they're too dense for it to be called Futsuu. (288bpm lmao) If you're going to change this to be Muzu however, the patterns are going to be needed to be Muzu-ified, basically change some of the ddd and kkk to ddk kkd dkd kdk etc (especially in the second kiai).

[Definitely not Muzukashii]
Definitely Oni.

00:16:526 (39,40,41,42,43,44) - change to ddd kkk instead of kkk ddd; 00:16:526 is onbeat and has a sustained synth pitch bend on top, which is heavier than 00:16:988 which is offbeat with a light electronic cymbal(?)
00:27:603 - turn those hitsounds even lower for your desired effect; something like 40% works for me, but I do have my effect volume at 75% as well
00:41:449 (164) - change to k? I don't think the song is heavy enough here to deserve a d every 2 bars, and k would match pitch as well as the ticking sfx heard in the background
00:47:449 - lol this section is like skystar sliders, but taiko
01:08:218 - lol SV, okay then (personally I feel that the deceleration is too quick, but maybe I just suck at this game)
01:10:568 (320,323) - these two has a slightly higher pitch in the music, I'd map it as k instead of d. Your call though.
01:22:458 - yup.
01:32:207 and 01:33:130 and 01:35:900 - add d for consistency
01:36:765 - this is how I would map this part:

(as you can see I like to pitch-map things)
01:50:380 - add k and change 01:50:727 (561) to k as well to match audible snares
[]

Will do the "Oni" later.

Edit: eh, will do the Oni now.

[Oni]
Pls.
(I don't think the BNs are gonna accept a 6 stars Oni lmao :lol: )

00:14:680 - since the noise here is kinda a drum kick played backwards, I would personally not have any notes here and map it with silence. Kinda makes the beat funky as well
00:20:449 - note: I listened at 50% playback rate, and these are all 1/8s. idk if you want to change it tho
00:27:603 - same as definitely not Muzu
00:35:219 - again, all 1/8s.
00:43:526 - ^
00:47:449 - are you skystar? :lol: :lol: :lol:
00:54:372 (273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281) - ddkkddddd matches the drums' pitches. If your intention was to have a sort of "build up" towards the last d, then change 00:54:372 (273) to k as well
00:59:911 (328,329) - change to k k, match the entry of the electronic cymbal(?)
01:08:218 - uhhhhhhh.....
01:20:843 (534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541) - kinda monotonous, having all these k in a row. Maybe map the melody instead? Your call.
01:22:458 - "did you hear anything?" "Nah, why, you heard something?" "No."
01:24:304 (545) - might as well be D
01:37:650 - "1/12 IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR ANYONE TO USE EVER." Yeah right. Keep it. <3
01:45:361 (814) - change to k to match the high "ding" sound
[]

Well... That was a thing.

Good map though, just wasn't... My ears weren't ready for that lol.

M4M request can be found at your queue.

There you go! Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!
Topic Starter
Nyan
[quote="bananannian"][Kantan]
00:21:603 - add k? Match repetition of 00:20:219 (17,18), and 1/1 quintuplet should not be too difficult for Kantan players. added
00:36:372 - ^ added
01:16:920 (36) - change to K to match the electronic cymbal(?) changed to D
01:37:688 (68) - change to d would match piano pitch, but if you don't want that many dkd or kdk's then no change keep
01:37:688 (68) - change to k to match pitch difference as well as 01:34:457 (63)
01:45:073 (82) - same as 01:37:688 (68) keep

[Futsuu]
01:22:458 (33) - 5% hitsounding? ayy lmao changed to 45%
Removed many objects at 260 BPM part. it will be not so hard now

[Definitely not Muzukashii]
Also removed many objects.

00:16:526 (39,40,41,42,43,44) - change to ddd kkk instead of kkk ddd accepted
00:41:449 (164) - change to k? accepted

[Oni]
Pls.
(I don't think the BNs are gonna accept a 6 stars Oni lmao :lol: ) It will be Oni.

00:14:680 - since the noise here is kinda a drum kick played backwards, I would personally not have any notes here and map it with silence. Kinda makes the beat funky as well no
00:20:449 - note: I listened at 50% playback rate, and these are all 1/8s. idk if you want to change it tho Keysound is 1/8 but still 1/6.
00:27:603 - same as definitely not Muzu no.
00:35:219 - again, all 1/8s. ^
00:43:526 - ^ ^
00:47:449 - are you skystar? :lol: :lol: :lol: What is skystar? I cannot get the point.
00:54:372 (273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281) - ddkkddddd matches the drums' pitches. If your intention was to have a sort of "build up" towards the last d, then change 00:54:372 (273) to k as well no
00:59:911 (328,329) - change to k k, match the entry of the electronic cymbal(?) no. It breaks entire flow
01:08:218 - uhhhhhhh.....
01:20:843 (534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541) - kinda monotonous, having all these k in a row. Maybe map the melody instead? Your call. no
01:22:458 - "did you hear anything?" "Nah, why, you heard something?" "No." Changed to 45%
01:24:304 (545) - might as well be D same as first kiai intro and all other phase intros. no change
01:37:650 - "1/12 IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR ANYONE TO USE EVER." Yeah right. Keep it. <3 1/6, no change.
01:45:361 (814) - change to k to match the high "ding" sound this is drum roll so no change.


Thanks for modding! I changed all of Futsuu and Muzukashii with your mod.
Volta
suggestion: remove all notes. xD


just kidding. will try to mod this. btw, Skystar is nickname of famous standard mapper with strange SV change style like you did at some point in this map.
Volta
from my queue~

[Kantan]
00:10:065 (5) - change to k
00:31:296 (32) - ^
00:33:142 (34) - ^
00:43:296 (48) - ^
01:16:453 (35) - ^
01:53:873 (94,95,97) - ^

[Futsuu]
00:18:834 (30,31,32) - i think kkd fits better
00:19:757 (33,34,35) - ^

00:23:334 (42) - k
00:25:757 (47) - ^
00:27:026 (50) - ^
00:30:834 (59) - ^
00:32:219 (62) - ^
00:34:526 (69) - ^

[Muzukashi]
01:58:719 - quintuplet 1/8? i think it's too hard for muzu. snap at 1/4?

[Oni]
00:20:680 (74) - change to k is better
00:21:603 (82) - ^
00:35:449 (155) - ^
00:36:372 (163) - ^
00:43:756 (202) - ^

only that from me..not very familiar with this kind of song. good luck!
Topic Starter
Nyan

Flying Pan wrote:

from my queue~

[Kantan]
00:10:065 (5) - change to k
00:31:296 (32) - ^
00:33:142 (34) - ^
00:43:296 (48) - ^
01:16:453 (35) - ^
01:53:873 (94,95,97) - ^

all done except first one.

[Futsuu]
00:18:834 (30,31,32) - i think kkd fits better
00:19:757 (33,34,35) - ^

00:23:334 (42) - k done
00:25:757 (47) - ^
00:27:026 (50) - ^ done
00:30:834 (59) - ^ done
00:32:219 (62) - ^
00:34:526 (69) - ^

[Muzukashi]
01:58:719 - quintuplet 1/8? i think it's too hard for muzu. snap at 1/4? Oh that was huge mistake. Thanks!

[Oni]
00:20:680 (74) - change to k is better
00:21:603 (82) - ^
00:35:449 (155) - ^
00:36:372 (163) - ^
00:43:756 (202) - ^

this part have same rhythm with Inner Oni, but this must have less difficulty so I will keep in dddd.

only that from me..not very familiar with this kind of song. good luck!
Thanks for modding :)
Coro
Taiko mod~
All are suggestion unless in red.

[General]
There's a few places where notes overlap due to different SVs, which may or may not be rankable. I love the SV changes in this song, it reminds me of a 2000 song from Taiko no Tatsujin, so I guess see what the BNs say.

[Oni]
00:54:372 - consider shifting the red timing point here, since this is the start of the next phrase

sorry, that's about all I can find =w=;
good luck for rank~
Topic Starter
Nyan

Coro wrote:

Taiko mod~
All are suggestion unless in red.

[General]
There's a few places where notes overlap due to different SVs, which may or may not be rankable. I love the SV changes in this song, it reminds me of a 2000 song from Taiko no Tatsujin, so I guess see what the BNs say.

[Oni]
00:54:372 - consider shifting the red timing point here, since this is the start of the next phrase

sorry, that's about all I can find =w=;
good luck for rank~
Thanks for modding. I will consider about reducing SV changes.
nyanmi-1828
Hi~ From my Queue~ >w<

Muzukashii
01:37:395 - move to 01:37:452
01:37:972 - move to 01:37:914
01:58:719 and 01:58:834 - d I think lower than 01:58:950.

Oni
01:14:665 - d
01:15:241 - ^

Inner Oni
00:58:411 - k

Good luck~ :)
Topic Starter
Nyan

nyanmi-1828 wrote:

Hi~ From my Queue~ >w<

Muzukashii
01:37:395 - move to 01:37:452
01:37:972 - move to 01:37:914
01:58:719 and 01:58:834 - d I think lower than 01:58:950.

Oni
01:14:665 - d
01:15:241 - ^

Inner Oni
00:58:411 - k

Good luck~ :)
Muzu and Oni mods are all accepted!
Topic Starter
Nyan
Update log

[Kantan]

HP 2 -> 7
ACC 4 -> 3

[Futsuu]

HP 4 -> 6

[Oni]

HP 6 ->5

[Inner Oni]

HP 7 -> 6
katacheh
Hi! from my queue~

k=kat d=don

Oni
┌00:39:488 (181,182) - kk
└00:39:949 (184) - d _______same as 01:54:450 (695,696,697,698,699,700,701) -

00:41:103 (190) - add kk

┌00:41:796 (193) - d
└00:41:911 (194) - add k

00:55:526 (260) - k
00:57:372 (275) - k
00:59:218 (290) - k

01:18:650 (424) - delete

01:21:073 (437) - d

01:43:279 (612) - add k

Inner oni
00:23:219 (89) - move to 00:23:103 (89) -
If you accept this ↑,
00:25:065 (98) - move to 00:24:949 (98)
00:26:911 (107) - move to 00:26:796 (107)

00:28:642 (120,123) - d

00:30:719 (130) - k

┌00:39:488 (177,178) - kk
└00:39:949 (180) - d

00:41:103 (185) - k

00:41:911 (188,189,190,191,192) - kdkkd

00:57:372 (303) - k

01:02:564 (360) - k
01:06:257 (407) - k

01:22:458 () - x0.2 too slow(?) ...Maybe x0.4~x0.5 ?

01:28:337 (581,582,583,584,585) - d dkk k

01:29:375 (593) - k

01:30:760 (607) - k

01:37:722 (706) - delete?

Too hard for me.. :o

Good luck!
Fuel
Hi, from my mod queue.

d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

mod
Kantan
00:34:065 (35) - Change to k? Similar to the sounds from 00:10:988 onwards and 00:18:372 onwards.
01:41:837 (76) - Change to k? Consistency with the previous section.

Futsuu
01:36:760 (90) - Change to d? Consistency with 01:44:145 (120) and I think these notes fit better as d rather than k (descending pitch)
01:45:299 (126) - Change to k? Consistency with 01:37:914 (94)

Muzukashii
00:49:353 (168) - Move to 00:49:296 for simplicity?
00:49:844 (170,171,172,173,174,175) - Snap these notes to 1/6 ticks? Again, just to keep it to a simpler rhythm since this is a Muzu.
00:52:469 (180) - Delete? Honestly I don't think it's very necessary given the sound is quite faint and the extra 1/8 tick in the gap just makes it look awkward.
01:47:145 (458) - Move to 01:47:260 ? Fits the instrumental sound imo.

Oni
01:46:395 (641) - Delete? Seems unnecessary, the sounds there are faint enough as it is.

I thought most of the patterns were alright, but that middle section (in the higher difficulties) with the weirdly snapped notes is very hard to follow.

Hope it helps :D
Topic Starter
Nyan

katacheh wrote:

Hi! from my queue~

k=kat d=don

Oni
┌00:39:488 (181,182) - kk
└00:39:949 (184) - d _______same as 01:54:450 (695,696,697,698,699,700,701) -

00:41:103 (190) - add kk

┌00:41:796 (193) - d
└00:41:911 (194) - add k added!

00:55:526 (260) - k fixed!
00:57:372 (275) - k fixed!
00:59:218 (290) - k fixed!

01:18:650 (424) - delete

01:21:073 (437) - d

01:43:279 (612) - add k

Inner oni
00:23:219 (89) - move to 00:23:103 (89) -
If you accept this ↑,
00:25:065 (98) - move to 00:24:949 (98)
00:26:911 (107) - move to 00:26:796 (107)

00:28:642 (120,123) - d

00:30:719 (130) - k

┌00:39:488 (177,178) - kk
└00:39:949 (180) - d

00:41:103 (185) - k

00:41:911 (188,189,190,191,192) - kdkkd fixed!

00:57:372 (303) - k

01:02:564 (360) - k
01:06:257 (407) - k

01:22:458 () - x0.2 too slow(?) ...Maybe x0.4~x0.5 ? fixed to 0.5

01:28:337 (581,582,583,584,585) - d dkk k fixed to d d kkd

01:29:375 (593) - k

01:30:760 (607) - k

01:37:722 (706) - delete?

Too hard for me.. :o

Good luck!

Invective wrote:

Hi, from my mod queue.

d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

mod
Kantan
00:34:065 (35) - Change to k? Similar to the sounds from 00:10:988 onwards and 00:18:372 onwards. fixed
01:41:837 (76) - Change to k? Consistency with the previous section. fixed!

Futsuu
01:36:760 (90) - Change to d? Consistency with 01:44:145 (120) and I think these notes fit better as d rather than k (descending pitch)
01:45:299 (126) - Change to k? Consistency with 01:37:914 (94)

Muzukashii
00:49:353 (168) - Move to 00:49:296 for simplicity?
00:49:844 (170,171,172,173,174,175) - Snap these notes to 1/6 ticks? Again, just to keep it to a simpler rhythm since this is a Muzu.
00:52:469 (180) - Delete? Honestly I don't think it's very necessary given the sound is quite faint and the extra 1/8 tick in the gap just makes it look awkward.
01:47:145 (458) - Move to 01:47:260 ? Fits the instrumental sound imo.

Oni
01:46:395 (641) - Delete? Seems unnecessary, the sounds there are faint enough as it is.

I thought most of the patterns were alright, but that middle section (in the higher difficulties) with the weirdly snapped notes is very hard to follow.

Hope it helps :D
xtrem3x
My Queue


General:

don = d
kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K


Kantan

  • Good...


Futsuu

  • 01:22:227 - Change this note to d .. to variety and more priority in next sequence with beep sounds.


Muzukashii

  • 00:28:757 (88,89,90,91) - is possible change this for ... dk dk ... for variety.


Oni

  • 00:39:257 - Is better this part kdkd? .. in this section you follow strong bass sound with red notes then is possible this combination.

    00:40:757 (188,189) - ctrl+g in these notes ...

    00:43:546 - kkkd in this 4-notes as next 4-notes .. have same sound

    00:59:911 (294,295,296,297) - this part is better as kdkd (?)


Inner Oni

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