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Mr Gaddy

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Mr Gaddy 2010-09-19T18:27:45+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 9 października 2010 at 17:32:19

Artist: Jonsi
Title: Sticks & Stones
Source: How To Train Your Dragon
Tags: Dreamworks Jon Thor Birgisson IceBeam
BPM: 167,39
Filesize: 6199kb
Play Time: 02:48
Difficulties Available:

Beam's Flowie (4,66 stars, 230 notes)
Easy (1,34 stars, 127 notes)
Hard (4,48 stars, 263 notes)
Normal (3,05 stars, 190 notes)

Download: Jonsi - Sticks & Stones
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Nice song from How To Train Your Dragon. (movie credits exactly)
I really liked it, and I just had to map it.
(also, this is my first map with a bit more of storyboarding, so if you see any errors on it, please - tell me about them)
LET'S BEGIN THE MODDING.
Edit #1 - Changed Offset & reuploaded due to changing the bitrate to 256kbps
Edit #2 - LesTrucsRose's and James2250's suggestions
Edit #3 - Making an easy difficulty - moved to WIP. I will finish Easy tomorrow.
Edit #4 - Easy is done. Please check it. Moved back to pending.
Edit #5 - 'self-modded' - changed few hitsounds and combos on all dificultys.
Edit #6 - Garven's suggestions
Edit #7 - Trying to fix the thumbnail // Fixed it. Thanks Bass-chan (:
Edit #8 - Few SB fixes
Edit #9 - SadKangaroo, Lesjuh and Astom suggestions. Also added new difficulty by SadKangaroo. Thanks <3
Edit #10 - DiamondCrash suggestions
Edit #11 - James2250 suggestions <yeah, again xD>
Edit #12 - karenying's suggestions
Edit #13 - Doomsday's and Gonzvlo's suggestions
Edit #14 - thekillerhjkhjk's suggestions
Edit #15 - IceBeam's difficulty updated, Louis Cyphre's suggestions
Edit #16 & 17 - Feno's suggestions
Edit #18 - 0_o suggestions
Edit #19 - Zekira's suggestion
Edit #20 - James2250 suggestions
Edit #21 & 22 - Fartownik's suggestions

Last edited by Mr Gaddy 2010-10-09T15:34:57+00:00, edited 37 times in total.

LesTrucsRoses

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LesTrucsRoses 2010-09-19T18:51:04+00:00

!Change color 2 to something lighter. It's hard too see it!

[Normal]

SPOILER

I like how some sliderticks are claps.

01:12:135 (7) - Make the volume here louder.
01:23:605 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These beats are too hard for a normal.

[Hard]

SPOILER

There's a lot of overlapping in this diff that I do not like, but it's not like it's unrankable because of them. Future modders will probobly ask you to remove them.

Excellent map.

Good luck.

James2250

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James2250 2010-09-19T19:52:37+00:00

-You need a difficulty below 3 stars to be ranked, I would suggest you make an easy
-Resize blacklol (odd name) to 640x480 for sb
-There are 2 identical osb files in your folder, delete one
-I agree change combo color 2 so it doesn't blend in so much

Normal:
00:11:741 (4) - add note
01:12:135 (7) - sounds odd so quiet, and new combo

Hard:
OD +1/+2
01:23:619 (3) - new combo
02:24:371 (3,4,5) - this caught me off guard as it is the only triplet like this in the entire map, but anyway

No other problems I see
*star*

Mr Gaddy

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Mr Gaddy 2010-09-19T20:15:26+00:00

LesTrucsRose wrote:
!Change color 2 to something lighter. It's hard too see it! Changed it abit.

[Normal]
SPOILER
I like how some sliderticks are claps. Yay!

01:12:135 (7) - Make the volume here louder.
01:23:605 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - These beats are too hard for a normal.[/color] Done.

[Hard]
SPOILER
There's a lot of overlapping in this diff that I do not like, but it's not like it's unrankable because of them. Future modders will probobly ask you to remove them.

Excellent map.

Good luck.Thank you

James2250 wrote:
-You need a difficulty below 3 stars to be ranked, I would suggest you make an easy Normal has 3 stars, does it have to be BELOW 3 stars? D:
-Resize blacklol (odd name) to 640x480 for sb Done.
-There are 2 identical osb files in your folder, delete one Done.
-I agree change combo color 2 so it doesn't blend in so much Done.

Normal:
00:11:741 (4) - add note Done.
01:12:135 (7) - sounds odd so quiet, and new combo Done.

Hard:
OD +1/+2 Done.
01:23:619 (3) - new combo Done.
02:24:371 (3,4,5) - this caught me off guard as it is the only triplet like this in the entire map, but anyway Changed it to a slider.

No other problems I see
*star* Thanks

Really thank you guys <3

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2010-09-20T14:52:40+00:00

Checked all diffs, no spacing problems found.
star~

Garven

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Garven 2010-09-21T09:10:33+00:00

As per your request:

[Skin]
Make the section-pass and section-fails transparent. I saw a tiny white pixel on the kid's face and was wondering what was up, haha.

[Storybaord]
The Up in through your sleeves image fades out a lot faster than the other ones.
There's a fair-chunk of unnecessary transparency in your white1-4.pngs.
01:41:002 - The fade to black is kind of weird since you have a spinner cover up the transition on all difficulties.

[General]
If you wish to use kiai, 02:08:063 - to 02:48:206 would be an excellent place for it - especially combined with your storyboard.

[Easy]
00:10:500 (1) - I tend to dislike soft whistles on sliderslides. They just sound bad and are usually unintentionally used.
00:13:726 (5) - Scoot this up a little bit - with such low distance snap, it's really hard to intuit that this note is a little later than the others (minus approach circles)
00:14:801 (2) - Soft whistle on slider slide

[Normal]
00:21:791 (1) - Although it's technically snapped, it's still deceitful because of the low distance snap. It would play better if you placed it a bit further away from the 6.
00:44:192 (4,1) - Was this spacing intended?
01:11:432 (6) - Eh, .5 section with this slow of velocity setting is kinda, well, eeh. ;)

[Hard]
Hrm, try this:

280,40,159963,6,0,B|484:62|492:190|492:382|248:432|40:384|36:206|36:54|246:39,1,980,2|0

for this:

SPOILER

Nice set~ Kinda wish easy and normal weren't so smooshed together, but they play fine enough.

Mr Gaddy

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Mr Gaddy 2010-09-21T15:57:18+00:00

Garven wrote:
As per your request: <3

[Skin]
Make the section-pass and section-fails transparent. I saw a tiny white pixel on the kid's face and was wondering what was up, haha. Yeah, thanks for noticing it! I had low resolution screen for a while and I didn't noticed it xD

[Storybaord]
The Up in through your sleeves image fades out a lot faster than the other ones. True. Fixed.
There's a fair-chunk of unnecessary transparency in your white1-4.pngs. I will leave it for now.
01:41:002 - The fade to black is kind of weird since you have a spinner cover up the transition on all difficulties. I liked how it looks like, I will leave it (for now at least)

[General]
If you wish to use kiai, 02:08:063 - to 02:48:206 would be an excellent place for it - especially combined with your storyboard. I though the same thing. Added Kiai.

[Easy]
00:10:500 (1) - I tend to dislike soft whistles on sliderslides. They just sound bad and are usually unintentionally used. Removed.
00:13:726 (5) - Scoot this up a little bit - with such low distance snap, it's really hard to intuit that this note is a little later than the others (minus approach circles) Moved.
00:14:801 (2) - Soft whistle on slider slide Removed.

[Normal]
00:21:791 (1) - Although it's technically snapped, it's still deceitful because of the low distance snap. It would play better if you placed it a bit further away from the 6. Done.
00:44:192 (4,1) - Was this spacing intended? Nope. D: Moved..
01:11:432 (6) - Eh, .5 section with this slow of velocity setting is kinda, well, eeh. Changed this part.

[Hard]
Hrm, try this:
280,40,159963,6,0,B|484:62|492:190|492:382|248:432|40:384|36:206|36:54|246:39,1,980,2|0
for this:
SPOILER
Yes, and thanks! <3.

Nice set~ Kinda wish easy and normal weren't so smooshed together, but they play fine enough.

Thank you for your time and your tips :3

IceBeam

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IceBeam 2010-09-24T06:17:16+00:00

[Easy]
Slider Velocity is too low,try use more fast sliders next time.
00:18:744 (5) - Better move it back to 00:18:386 (5),sounds better to me,because of lyrics.
00:30:930 (3) - Nice idea to put some finishes here,but if you move this note back to 00:30:572 and add another note at 00:31:110(with finish as well) it may sound better.
00:36:665 (2) - ^ Same suggestion,put that note back to long white tick and add another to 00:36:844.
01:17:884 (4) - Stack with 01:16:092 (2)?
01:20:751 (1) - Stack with 01:18:959 (1)?
02:39:963 (1) - There is a whistle on the whole slider? Sounds a bit annoying to me.

[Normal]
00:55:303 (1) - Again,whistle.

Hard is fine.

This song is so awesome!
Star~

Lesjuh

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Lesjuh 2010-09-24T16:22:34+00:00

Just two small things...

Normal
Slider tick rate 1

Easy
Drain rate -1

That's it!

Astom

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Joined October 2008

Astom 2010-09-24T19:30:59+00:00

Hi~

-Delete Jonsi - Sticks and Stones (Mr Gaddy).osb and fullsubmit.
-Some problems in .osb fixed, still I make a little change because u make a effect with blacklol.jpg that u can't see because the order of the img's is flipped, so when u order them the sb looks a little different.(Still make a back up of u original SB).
Download: Jonsi - Sticks & Stones (Mr Gaddy).osb

[Hard]
-01:00:679 (2) this slider looks and sound strange

Mmm that.
Star~

IceBeam

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IceBeam 2010-09-24T19:50:28+00:00

I've decided to make a difficulty for you.

Please,appreciate it~
~~ATTACH[Jonsi - Sticks & Stones (Mr Gaddy) [SK's Flowie].osu]~~

If you take it - don't forget to add my nickname to Tags,as I did it in the one above.

to the modders:
I couldn't name it Insane,also,Hard is already exists,so don't claim on it,please.

Edit:
Eh..I've changed my diff.a bit ~_~
Download: Jonsi - Sticks & Stones (Mr Gaddy) [SK's Flowie].osu

Download: Jonsi - Sticks & Stones (Mr Gaddy) [SK's Flowie].osu

Mr Gaddy

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Mr Gaddy 2010-09-25T07:21:20+00:00

All suggestions accepted. Thank you guys :3
Also, thank you SadKangaroo for your awesome diff

aRiskOfRain

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aRiskOfRain 2010-09-25T16:04:21+00:00

General;

The slidertick claps are louder than the normal claps; fix that.

Easy;

Less whistle in that chorus thanks.
02:09:855 (2,1) - Don't like the way this goes back on the 2.

Normal;

00:21:253 (6,1) - Spacing.
00:36:307 (4) - Make this slider not overlap the 1

Flowie;

02:48:385 (2) - Deleteeeee

Mr Gaddy

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Mr Gaddy 2010-09-25T16:56:37+00:00

Update. Changed slidertick.
Thanks DiamodCrash (: All suggestions accepted.

IceBeam

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IceBeam 2010-09-26T07:56:40+00:00

DiamondCrash wrote:
Flowie;

02:48:385 (2) - Deleteeeee It was pasted from 01:03:547 (1,2).Is there any reason to delete it?

Thank you.

James2250

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James2250 2010-09-26T18:37:38+00:00

Request to mod the new difficulty~

Easy looks fine, beginners are going to have to get used to repeats pretty fast though~

SK's Flowie:
00:27:705 (1) - really don't like how this slider looks, try and redo it somehow
I would add a note at 00:54:945 and move spinner back to 00:55:303
01:03:726 (2) - is this note needed?
01:35:447 (3,4) - align these
02:22:400 (1) - same comment as other spinner
02:39:604 (1) - ^
02:48:385 (2) - is note needed? (if you get rid of this put finish on 1)

*sta----oh I did

Good luck with ranking~

IceBeam

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IceBeam 2010-09-26T19:21:17+00:00

James2250 wrote:
SK's Flowie:
00:27:705 (1) - really don't like how this slider looks, try and redo it somehow Yeah,ok.
I would add a note at 00:54:945 and move spinner back to 00:55:303 What's for? The previous rhytm was ended.I've tested your suggestion,but I don't like how it sounds.
01:03:726 (2) - is this note needed? Of course,it sounds completely crap w/o it.I've found it very gentle.
01:35:447 (3,4) - align these Ok.
02:22:400 (1) - same comment as other spinner Same reply =p
02:39:604 (1) - ^ ^
02:48:385 (2) - is note needed? (if you get rid of this put finish on 1) Same reply.