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Utada Hikaru - Prisoner Of Love

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DawnII
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IVIasterLeo
BPM: Very nice
Spacing: Good spacing

It was well on rhythm. The heart shaped slider kinda might throw people off at the speed of it.
but overall.
out of 10..
I'd give it a 9.4

Nice work
eirrol
Just seen this song days ago... Download for sure~
machol30
Round BPM to 97 on all timing sections.
First offset is fine.
second: 152,230
third: 191,817
fourth: 265,425
Resnap and recalc.
machol30
Easy:
00:35:94 (4) - slider end at 00:37:79 (white tick)
01:02:23 (1) - closer to 4 and imo, sounds better without the repeat. Should also change the placement for next note.
01:06:09 (3) - 1/4 late and space accordingly
01:13:51 (3) - same
01:15:52 (2) - end is 1/4 early. next two notes should follow 1/2 beat later.
01:45:22 (4) - slider end at 01:47:07 (white tick)
02:12:90 (5) - 1/4 late and space accordingly
02:15:37 (2) - begin 1/4 late
02:22:95 (2) - begin 1/4 late
02:24:80 (2) - end is 1/4 early. Next note should follow 1/2 beat later.
02:26:97 (1) - same
02:42:74 (2) - closer to 1
03:14:29 (5) - end is 1/4 early
03:16:76 (2) - end is 1/4 early. next note should follow 1/2 beat later.
03:24:18 (2) - same
03:26:66 (2) - same
03:29:13 (2) - same
Section after last break confuses me a little.

These may also pertain to other difficulties, so check those out as well.
Topic Starter
DawnII

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Easy:
00:35:94 (4) - slider end at 00:37:79 (white tick)
I changed it for easy, but am leaving it as is for Normal because it sounds more like what I want.

01:06:09 (3) - 1/4 late and space accordingly
Moved off timeline, sounds better.

01:13:51 (3) - same
Same as above.

02:12:90 (5) - 1/4 late and space accordingly
Did something a bit different here.

02:22:95 (2) - begin 1/4 late
This slider doesn't sound right anywhere else.

02:42:74 (2) - closer to 1
Don't see a problem here? Spacing is equal.

03:24:18 (2) - same
Don't see a problem with this section. Beats end and start at beginning of annunciations.

Section after last break confuses me a little.
The layout is confusing? I realize the spacing is a bit liberal here, so I cleaned it up a bit.

As far as Normal goes, most of your suggestions didn't fit with how I wanted to sound, so I'm attempting to compromise by upping the offset to 11,202. Though it doesn't fix it completely, it at least gets the notes closer to the first syllable of each phrase.

Also a heads up about Hard, quite a bit of it is not placed along with anything in the song, so I'm kind of improvising my own rhythm there.
Utena
nice map xD </3 small circles but its good :)
Cyclone
i'm actually far too tired to take a serious look at this... all i got to was hard... that 1 slider is messed up and the spacing can sometime be a little confusing. Sorry i can't be of more help right now.
Mogsy
The spacing can be a bit confusing, and the file size is a bit large (23 MB is fine, though). I also feel like the soft hitsounds start too early. I think they should start at 02:50:78, but that's just me. But other than that, good job.

You get a bubble.
Saturos
Normal:

02:29:78 (1) - I can't rank this in a Normal map. D: Either make it work with the normal BPM, or remap entirely.

Hard:

00:35:94 (8,9) - Move closer, imo.
01:04:70 (1,2) - Same here.
01:16:38 (7,8) - These don't necessarily land 1/8 earlier, but they feel a lot better 1/8 earlier. Try it out.
01:52:33 (8,9,10) - These just felt out of place. Too confusing, imo. I would like them changed, but that's up to you.
02:25:73 (7) - Move 1/8 earlier.
03:27:89 (9) - Move 1/8 earlier. Though both the 8 and 9 here feel off, similar to the two at 1:16:38. Play with it a bit.

Bubble popped.
Topic Starter
DawnII

Saturos wrote:

Normal:

02:29:78 (1) - I can't rank this in a Normal map. D: Either make it work with the normal BPM, or remap entirely.
To make it work at normal BPM, I'd have to seriously reduce the scale of the slider, which is more than a bit upsetting. I've seen this done in other maps as well?

Saturos wrote:

01:16:38 (7,8) - These don't necessarily land 1/8 earlier, but they feel a lot better 1/8 earlier. Try it out.
Indeed, I had it 1/8 earlier previously. I decided to move it off the timeline, however, since either tick feels too early/late.
MaxwellDemon
It is heavily recommended you use the inherit previous timing setting for the timing that is used to change the hit sounds (so, you don't have to be precise with the offset, as what that option does is that it doesn't reset the timing then).

Easy
01:13:59 (3) - Hmmm, this sounds better 1/8th tick earlier... however, the reverse kick wouldn't land on the 1/8th then (which it should). It is your choice if you want to break it up and have a slider then a beat or keep this reverse slider

Normal
02:29:78 (1) - I absolutely disagree with the speed of this slider here actually too o.O;... not in normal anyway... make a small heart? -- the only ranked map that has this too would be Over the Distance, but that's because of authenticity? Other maps that have sudden slider speed increase often is in hard or have simple sliders, making the speed bearable.

Hard

I kinda disagree with the overall ridiculous spacing in here. Not to mention, 1.8x spacing with sliders that aren't that fast is very disorienting. Maybe if this was done only to a few beats, then it is fine, but having the entire map at 1.8x is pretty bad. XD

Of course, it is not to say this is unrankable due to that (since it follows all ranking regulations), but I doubt it'd be enjoyable to many players.

00:22:18 (3) - Sounds better 1/8th later?
00:36:71 (9) - Not seeing what this is following actually? I think the setting in Normal for this part of the song sounds a whole lot better
00:41:35 (2) - Not seeing what this is follow either... sounds better without it
00:46:92 (2) - Same here... sounds out of place to me. :(
00:49:39 (3,5) - Same here XO
01:07:64 (2,4) - And again XD
01:44:44 (5) - Here too
02:10:42 (6) - Aye, same thing as above
02:12:59 (12) - Here again
02:16:61 (9,11,13) - And again
02:21:56 (2) - Aye.
02:56:19 (2) - :P
02:59:91 (3) - XD
03:14:44 (10) - Yep. XD
04:16:30 (3) - You know what I want to say here~


(NOTE: I think I have to state that while I feel a lot of these beats are out of place, another BAT might believe otherwise. So, if another BAT agrees with having those beats there, I'll let these beats go :P)

Anyway, despite of my long list. I hope you are not discouraged. I personally really love this map. So, keep up the good work! :)
Topic Starter
DawnII

MaxwellDemon wrote:

I kinda disagree with the overall ridiculous spacing in here.
I do as well to tell the truth. But Hard is worth 8 mil, and to cut down on the spacing makes it ridiculously easy to earn that 8 mil, and I'm just not willing to hand that out :lol:

MaxwellDemon wrote:

(NOTE: I think I have to state that while I feel a lot of these beats are out of place, another BAT might believe otherwise. So, if another BAT agrees with having those beats there, I'll let these beats go :P)
Again, as I stated earlier, many of the beats aren't falling on anything specifically in the song, but sound good within the context.
ThePassingShadow

DawnII wrote:

MaxwellDemon wrote:

I kinda disagree with the overall ridiculous spacing in here.
I do as well to tell the truth. But Hard is worth 8 mil, and to cut down on the spacing makes it ridiculously easy to earn that 8 mil, and I'm just not willing to hand that out :lol:

I'm going to have to agree with the majority here and say that the spacing needs some work. People can still work for the eight million with hard spacing. But ridiculous spacing is... Ridiculous.
Topic Starter
DawnII
TBH, I'm not going to change the basic spacing. Maybe I'll fix the 1.2x stuff, but other than that, it stays. I don't give a damn whether that prevents it from ranking. Leave it unranked.
Echo
Normal:
00:29:14 (1) - this can be in the same column as the 3 (ie. same x-pos)
00:52:02 (3) - move the middle slider control point in a bit so the distance between 2 and slider start is the same as between slider end and 4
01:43:36 (1) - this is inconsistant but i think it's fine (just pointing it out though ;P)
02:17:38 (9) - slider end needs to be stacked properly with 7
02:29:74 (1) - i prefer this ending on a full beat (and stacked with the start, although some disagree :/ so it's up to you whether to stack it or not)
04:02:84 (4) - end stacked with 1

Hard:
00:54:50 (2) - misleading because it makes the person think it ends after 1 repeat but there are actually 2 repeats
01:46:61 (11,12) - possibly make the ends stack
01:56:97 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing is a tad too big imo
02:00:99 (8) - too far away...
02:17:38 (14) - end has to stack with 12
02:23:10 (10) - too close, makes me want to hit it early
02:36:25 (14) - possibly (but don't if you don't want to) move it further away from the 15
02:53:57 (1) - don't ruin the symmetry, put this in the middle >:|
02:58:51 (1) - move this higher or 2,3,4 lower because of 1-2 gap
03:25:27 (8) - spacing from 7-8 is bigger than 8-1 but timing is opposite, makes me want to hit the 1 early

The other thing I don't like are the two 20 second breaks near the end. Personally I would prefer it if the second break was not there, or both breaks were shortened to about 10 seconds each (somehow :P)
Topic Starter
DawnII
I fixed everything but:

Echo wrote:

Normal:
03:25:27 (8) - spacing from 7-8 is bigger than 8-1 but timing is opposite, makes me want to hit the 1 early
Totally intentional. :twisted:

Echo wrote:

The other thing I don't like are the two 20 second breaks near the end. Personally I would prefer it if the second break was not there, or both breaks were shortened to about 10 seconds each (somehow :P)
Are you suggesting that you want me to map more? :P
I really don't know about the second break. Maybe I could do the same thing in Hard with the first break, but if I were to dig into the second break I will probably only do it for Hard.
Echo
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Echo
I give you bubble then.
Mogsy
I personally have no problems. Ranked.
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