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Rib - Yonjuunana

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Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年6月6日 at 16:59:16

Artist: Rib
Title: Yonjuunana
Tags: mikitop みきとP Riboot Regraz
BPM: 172
Filesize: 21344kb
Play Time: 04:40
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab Hard (3.19 stars, 718 notes)
  2. Insane (4.26 stars, 938 notes)
  3. Normal (1.95 stars, 374 notes)
Download: Rib - Yonjuunana
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Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Normal ---by me
Hard ---by me and Regraz
Insane ---by me
Last edited by Lobelia , edited 42 times in total.
Mafumafu
Beatmap Nominator
3,367 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
Here's some of my opinions regarding Insane diff:

Rhythm
00:10:193 Putting an apparent vocal on the reverse of the slider provides poor hit-feelings, especially when the start point of the slider sounds pretty soft.
00:18:391 (1,2) - Follow downbeats here instead of vocals.
00:37:141 (5) - remove.
00:49:612 (3,4,5) - It seems that it's not 1/4, but 1/3.
01:01:211 There should be a note.
02:59:554 (5) - Your 1/1 antijumps should start here.
03:38:624 Start a break here and end at 03:44:205
04:25:542 (2,3,4) - Change them into 2 1/4 sliders.


Pattern
00:05:135 (1,2,3,4) - Not recommend the anti-jumps here. They actually don't work well here. And also, use regular spacing at 00:06:182 (4,1) -
00:12:286 (2,3) - The spacing here is quite exaggerated. This even doesnt deserves a jump in fact.
00:21:879 (4,5,6,7) - NC since the rhythm changed here.
00:24:321 (6,7) - Jumps should be here instead of 00:24:147 (5,6) - .
02:52:403 (4,5) - This pattern is not neat. (The degree of curving between these 2 varies too much.)
03:10:717 (5,1,1,2,3,4,1) - It's really imbalanced and crowded that you put so many notes on a corner of the play field.
04:03:565 (4,5) - Bad straight flow. Avoid such patterns.
04:11:938 (4,5) - The jump here is too large.
04:23:275 (1) - This is really not nice. Firstly the shape is weird, secondly the multi-reverse patterns seems really imbalanced with your large spacing notes in the previous section.
04:26:065 (1,1) - Do not stack them.

Overall advice:
Be consistent in rhythm. It doesnt mean that you must follow either vocal or beats, but at least try to keep up a consistency in one section.

Put reasonable jumps. Ask yourself if it really deserves it when you want use a different spacing from your normal one.

Re-arrange your NC setting. It seems that your NC setting is in a mess. Try to put NC every 2 long white-lines.

Good Luck!
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Regraz wrote:

Here's some of my opinions regarding Insane diff:可怜的我英语废QAQ

Rhythm
00:10:193 Putting an apparent vocal on the reverse of the slider provides poor hit-feelings, especially when the start point of the slider sounds pretty soft.√
00:18:391 (1,2) - Follow downbeats here instead of vocals.√
00:37:141 (5) - remove.√
00:49:612 (3,4,5) - It seems that it's not 1/4, but 1/3.√
01:01:211 There should be a note.感觉不到。。。不放
02:59:554 (5) - Your 1/1 antijumps should start here.这里开始就会接不上前面的啦
03:38:624 Start a break here and end at 03:44:205摆都摆了，不休息!!!死劲干
04:25:542 (2,3,4) - Change them into 2 1/4 sliders.换了个来回三连QWQ感觉也蛮好哒


Pattern
00:05:135 (1,2,3,4) - Not recommend the anti-jumps here. 这里没人声很安静的伴奏我觉得蛮适合这样哒QWQThey actually don't work well here. And also, use regular spacing at 00:06:182 (4,1) - 好哒
00:12:286 (2,3) - The spacing here is quite exaggerated. This even doesnt deserves a jump in fact.好哒
00:21:879 (4,5,6,7) - NC since the rhythm changed here.好哒
00:24:321 (6,7) - Jumps should be here instead of 00:24:147 (5,6) - .√
02:52:403 (4,5) - This pattern is not neat. (The degree of curving between these 2 varies too much.)QWQ 微调
03:10:717 (5,1,1,2,3,4,1) - It's really imbalanced and crowded that you put so many notes on a corner of the play field.微调
04:03:565 (4,5) - Bad straight flow. Avoid such patterns.好
04:11:938 (4,5) - The jump here is too large. 不会啊QAQ
04:23:275 (1) - This is really not nice. Firstly the shape is weird, secondly the multi-reverse patterns seems really imbalanced with your large spacing notes in the previous section.好哒
04:26:065 (1,1) - Do not stack them.现在不好改了啊QAQ先这样

Overall advice:
Be consistent in rhythm. It doesnt mean that you must follow either vocal or beats, but at least try to keep up a consistency in one section.

Put reasonable jumps. Ask yourself if it really deserves it when you want use a different spacing from your normal one.

Re-arrange your NC setting. It seems that your NC setting is in a mess. Try to put NC every 2 long white-lines.

Good Luck!
Mafumafu
Beatmap Nominator
3,367 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
好好好
然而并没加音效
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 156530
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Yonjuunana
TitleUnicode:ヨンジュウナナ
Artist:Rib
ArtistUnicode:りぶ
Creator:[ Abhor ]
Version:Collab Hard1
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:894696
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.3
SliderTickRate:1

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401,324,226821,1,0,0:0:0:0:
401,324,226908,1,0,0:0:0:0:
401,324,226995,6,0,B|342:342|342:342|266:330,1,130
129,273,227693,2,0,P|135:207|91:153,1,130
65,228,228216,2,0,P|53:274|105:348,1,130
302,236,229088,5,0,0:0:0:0:
376,215,229262,1,0,0:0:0:0:
414,100,229437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,215,229611,1,0,0:0:0:0:
277,106,229786,6,0,P|236:127|155:80,1,130
226,50,230309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
277,106,230483,2,0,L|250:255,1,130
311,287,231007,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,307,231181,6,0,L|377:222,2,65
420,154,231879,2,0,P|453:91|434:28,1,130
284,46,232576,6,0,L|139:61,1,130
42,168,233274,2,0,P|91:153|173:205,1,130
222,230,233797,1,0,0:0:0:0:
285,184,233972,6,0,L|285:115,1,65
357,89,234321,2,0,L|361:247,1,130
209,260,235018,2,0,P|172:275|114:257,1,97.5
103,223,235367,6,0,L|81:358,1,130
238,342,236065,2,0,P|289:298|293:217,1,130
246,91,236762,2,0,L|235:6,1,65
328,78,237111,2,0,L|319:142,1,65
416,75,237460,2,0,L|410:18,2,32.5
498,111,237809,2,0,L|504:54,2,32.5
452,184,238158,6,0,P|338:211|307:209,1,130
216,99,238855,1,0,0:0:0:0:
143,127,239030,2,0,P|96:132|75:124,1,65
216,99,239379,2,0,P|221:138|155:207,1,130
91,225,239902,5,0,0:0:0:0:
145,281,240076,1,0,0:0:0:0:
145,281,240251,2,0,L|226:280,1,65
273,357,240600,2,0,L|209:358,1,65
91,339,240949,6,0,P|64:283|98:219,1,130
166,204,241472,1,0,0:0:0:0:
231,162,241646,2,0,P|231:127|220:91,1,65
148,73,241995,1,0,0:0:0:0:
297,66,242169,2,0,L|437:58,1,130
462,128,242693,6,0,P|472:173|461:212,1,65
394,168,243042,1,0,0:0:0:0:
394,168,243216,2,0,L|315:174,1,65
262,213,243565,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,103,243739,6,0,B|206:102|206:102|160:83,1,130
220,29,244262,1,0,0:0:0:0:
98,46,244437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,29,244611,2,0,L|299:30,1,65
375,102,244960,2,0,P|356:155|279:185,1,130
217,208,245483,6,0,P|234:240|260:258,1,65
238,130,245832,2,0,P|251:96|246:60,1,65
163,151,246181,2,0,P|126:154|94:172,1,65
87,179,246443,1,0,0:0:0:0:
81,197,246530,6,0,B|96:273|96:273|88:305|65:320,1,130
16,259,247053,1,0,0:0:0:0:
30,126,247228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,259,247402,2,0,L|5:191,1,65
98,102,247751,2,0,P|161:112|228:95,1,130
302,85,248274,6,0,P|380:77|410:85,1,97.5
424,109,248623,2,0,L|434:189,1,65
392,241,248972,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,241,249059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,241,249146,2,0,L|378:289,1,32.5
348,291,249321,6,0,P|267:307|213:299,1,130
25,206,250018,2,0,L|22:284,2,65
27,83,250541,1,0,0:0:0:0:
27,83,250629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
27,83,250716,6,0,P|97:38|162:49,1,130
335,93,251414,2,0,L|406:77,2,65
285,162,251937,6,0,P|258:204|287:301,1,130
351,299,252460,1,0,0:0:0:0:
431,154,252809,2,0,L|509:171,2,65
387,87,253332,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,149,253507,6,0,L|345:12,1,130
258,59,254030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,41,254204,2,0,P|138:46|98:29,2,65
258,59,254728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
199,119,254902,6,0,P|165:206|181:251,1,130
398,331,255600,2,0,L|406:247,2,65
324,350,256123,1,0,0:0:0:0:
286,244,256297,6,0,P|323:174|382:162,1,130
205,214,256995,2,0,L|131:203,1,65
94,298,257344,2,0,L|168:287,1,65
235,337,257693,6,0,P|286:345|312:335,1,65
363,249,258041,2,0,B|351:195|364:135|364:135|342:165,1,130
275,177,258565,1,0,0:0:0:0:
190,153,258739,2,0,P|180:107|203:42,1,97.5
214,43,259088,6,0,L|297:53,1,65
344,90,259437,2,0,L|409:83,1,65
408,161,259786,2,0,L|325:171,1,65
268,139,260135,2,0,L|203:131,1,65
96,114,260483,5,0,0:0:0:0:
97,270,260832,1,0,0:0:0:0:
126,106,261181,5,0,0:0:0:0:
126,278,261530,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,98,261879,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,285,262228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
297,190,262576,2,0,B|368:194|368:194|400:175|444:186,1,130
415,260,263100,1,0,0:0:0:0:
415,260,263274,6,0,B|460:273|464:332|403:360|403:360|348:326|348:326|292:347|292:347|228:323|228:323|170:345|170:345|108:359|67:329|57:286,1,520
134,270,264844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
154,194,265018,2,0,P|156:140|145:120,1,65
81,165,265367,6,0,P|77:113|105:65,1,97.5
133,58,265716,2,0,L|206:52,1,65
217,71,265978,1,0,0:0:0:0:
218,71,266065,6,0,P|197:111|223:212,1,130
378,102,266763,2,0,P|425:97|458:108,2,65
309,223,267286,6,0,L|465:211,1,130
486,331,267809,2,0,P|449:332|419:315,1,65
396,311,268071,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,311,268158,2,0,L|307:324,1,65
210,266,268507,2,0,P|152:280|107:266,1,97.5
79,246,268856,6,0,L|80:157,1,65
157,126,269205,2,0,L|157:190,1,65
237,179,269553,2,0,P|279:189|317:180,2,65
236,51,270077,6,0,L|385:64,1,130
501,124,270600,2,0,L|423:131,1,65
405,160,270862,1,0,0:0:0:0:
405,160,270949,2,0,P|399:199|408:246,1,65
475,303,271298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
369,338,271472,2,0,L|328:328,1,32.5
310,360,271646,6,0,P|264:346|223:358,1,65
158,284,271995,2,0,P|190:284|220:271,1,65
283,210,272344,2,0,L|287:120,2,65
224,112,272867,6,0,P|295:75|348:110,1,130
402,230,273391,2,0,L|409:155,1,65
413,130,273652,1,0,0:0:0:0:
413,130,273740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
499,205,273914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
441,303,274088,2,0,P|387:311|356:297,1,65
264,241,274437,6,0,L|194:249,1,65
254,156,274786,2,0,L|324:164,1,65
397,115,275135,2,0,P|403:76|393:45,2,65
434,229,275658,6,0,P|408:295|433:364,1,130
497,300,276181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
497,300,276355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
141,104,277053,6,0,L|92:90,2,32.5
256,192,277315,12,0,280105,0:0:0:0:
Gentle Heart
30 posts
Joined January 2013
Gentle Heart
Insane难度

02:08:798 (4,5) - 这2个连接的角度好诡异 ..建议直滑条或者放下面点弄成小弧线....

03:12:810 (1,2) - 建议单点+折返滑条

03:15:076 - 建议2个滑条+折返滑条(就是红线开始的3个滑条..
Narcissu
1,744 posts
Joined August 2012
Narcissu
m4s for Satellite's map

General

  1. 你這音頻前面空的不到一秒，可以考慮加點前置時間防止MP見面miss，位置在osu文件第二行AudioLeadIn，單位是ms。建議填1200
  2. 大叔啊現在不流行那個321go啦，而且要312go的那個界面裏面所有的勾要統一，就是F4第五個裏面那些
  3. 建議加自定義顏色，你可以考慮基佬紫

Normal

  1. 00:00:949 (1) - 個人不是很喜歡在低難度拉超長滑條
  2. 00:20:483 - 這種重音能放點擊就放點擊會有感覺一點，按下去咚咚咚什麼的，另外NC也是這裡
  3. 00:26:065 - 00:28:855 - 00:31:646 - 00:34:437 - etc ↑↑↑
  4. 00:23:275 (1) - 可能你會想保持1.2DS
  5. 00:53:972 (1,2) - 大叔啊現在流行這樣遮的啊↓↓↓你要插中間過好歹插正中間啊插偏了對孩子將來不好
    SPOILER
  6. 01:20:309 - 02:38:449 - 03:59:379 - 多出來的哨子？附近沒聽到幾個……講道理偶爾扔幾個也是01:31:472 - ……
  7. 01:38:623 (1,2,3,4) - good hitsound
  8. 02:04:088 (2,4,5) - 這里突然變擠了……
  9. 02:35:832 (3) - 不要放連續折返，真新人讀圖渣不適應短的連續折返
  10. 03:20:135 (3,4) - 咋的就非要平行壓死人呢
  11. 03:45:251 (2,4) - 這兩個圈去掉比較合氣氛
  12. 03:50:832 (2,3) - 03:53:623 (2) - 這裡就不必連續1/2滑條了，難讀的要死音量也不大
  13. 03:58:158 - 這裡開始的1/2滑條難度太高了，它只是不拉星而已，你可以看看這個DQ貼考慮要不要加個Easy p/4844495
  14. 臥槽我很久沒在新手圖裏面挑不出DS了……

感覺有點辛苦……我切換成老司機水貼模式

--------------

[Hard]
  1. 咋就這難度有一堆藍線……
  2. 講道理啊這個finish 應該換whistle
  3. 00:28:681 (6) - 三連簡單一點
  4. 01:38:972 (2,3) - 額……雖然一般都是糊白線，這邊是切分音應該放紅線，類似01:34:262 (1) -
  5. 01:51:704 - 03:43:332 - 這break拉几ms 有意義嗎……
  6. 02:59:902 (1,2,3,1) - 這一片略土……真心建議換掉，背景音很明顯不用擔心讀錯你可以混搭各種樣式的低DS單點像這樣↓↓↓
    SPOILER
  7. 03:08:623 (2,2) - 分開？
  8. 03:12:111 (1,2,3,4,1) - 連續單點這一排的難度已經直接碾壓掉三個kiai 了，建議換成kiai 放單點這邊糊滑條
  9. 03:49:088 (1,2,3,4,1) - ↑↑↑最難的梗不要扔這種奇怪的地方啊
[Insane]
  1. AR9 OD8 plz
  2. 咋這難度NC 兩節一次……
  3. 00:22:577 (2,3,4) - 臥槽這貨人玩……
  4. 00:49:903 (1,2,3) - 臥槽怎麼這麼多1/3，我已經看見了墜毀的ACC，從科學發展觀來看我建議放滑條或者直接糊1/2
  5. 03:00:252 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 整整十秒啊混點別的樣式進去吧
再看下去感覺要變成給……就這麼多算了……
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Narcissu wrote:

m4s for Satellite's map

General

  1. 你這音頻前面空的不到一秒，可以考慮加點前置時間防止MP見面miss，位置在osu文件第二行AudioLeadIn，單位是ms。建議填1200
  2. 大叔啊現在不流行那個321go啦，而且要312go的那個界面裏面所有的勾要統一，就是F4第五個裏面那些
  3. 建議加自定義顏色，你可以考慮基佬紫
都会改的=W=

Normal

  1. 00:00:949 (1) - 個人不是很喜歡在低難度拉超長滑條
  2. 00:20:483 - 這種重音能放點擊就放點擊會有感覺一點，按下去咚咚咚什麼的，另外NC也是這裡
  3. 00:26:065 - 00:28:855 - 00:31:646 - 00:34:437 - etc ↑↑↑这一块都改了
  4. 00:23:275 (1) - 可能你會想保持1.2DS
  5. 00:53:972 (1,2) - 大叔啊現在流行這樣遮的啊↓↓↓你要插中間過好歹插正中間啊插偏了對孩子將來不好
    SPOILER
    我只是刚好觉得这块可以这样弄一个试试，我改
  6. 01:20:309 - 02:38:449 - 03:59:379 - 多出來的哨子？附近沒聽到幾個……講道理偶爾扔幾個也是01:31:472 - ……都去掉了。。。其他难度这几个哨子也掐掉了
  7. 01:38:623 (1,2,3,4) - good hitsound
  8. 02:04:088 (2,4,5) - 這里突然變擠了……√
  9. 02:35:832 (3) - 不要放連續折返，真新人讀圖渣不適應短的連續折返这里我考虑过的。。。所以后面空了有一段时间
  10. 03:20:135 (3,4) - 咋的就非要平行壓死人呢改
  11. 03:45:251 (2,4) - 這兩個圈去掉比較合氣氛好
  12. 03:50:832 (2,3) - 03:53:623 (2) - 這裡就不必連續1/2滑條了，難讀的要死音量也不大√
  13. 03:58:158 - 這裡開始的1/2滑條難度太高了，它只是不拉星而已，你可以看看這個DQ貼考慮要不要加個Easy p/4844495
  14. 臥槽我很久沒在新手圖裏面挑不出DS了……

感覺有點辛苦……我切換成老司機水貼模式

--------------

[Hard]
  1. 咋就這難度有一堆藍線……
  2. 講道理啊這個finish 應該換whistle
  3. 00:28:681 (6) - 三連簡單一點
  4. 01:38:972 (2,3) - 額……雖然一般都是糊白線，這邊是切分音應該放紅線，類似01:34:262 (1) -
  5. 01:51:704 - 03:43:332 - 這break拉几ms 有意義嗎……
  6. 02:59:902 (1,2,3,1) - 這一片略土……真心建議換掉，背景音很明顯不用擔心讀錯你可以混搭各種樣式的低DS單點像這樣↓↓↓
    SPOILER
    √
  7. 03:08:623 (2,2) - 分開？
  8. 03:12:111 (1,2,3,4,1) - 連續單點這一排的難度已經直接碾壓掉三個kiai 了，建議換成kiai 放單點這邊糊滑條我研究下怎么改。。。
  9. 03:49:088 (1,2,3,4,1) - ↑↑↑最難的梗不要扔這種奇怪的地方啊↑
[Insane]
  1. AR9 OD8 plz
  2. 咋這難度NC 兩節一次……
  3. 00:22:577 (2,3,4) - 臥槽這貨人玩……
  4. 00:49:903 (1,2,3) - 臥槽怎麼這麼多1/3，我已經看見了墜毀的ACC，從科學發展觀來看我建議放滑條或者直接糊1/2
  5. 03:00:252 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 整整十秒啊混點別的樣式進去吧
再看下去感覺要變成給……就這麼多算了……

感谢老司机 :) ，顺便。。。竟然叫我大叔。。。。。怎么可以喊我大叔
Last edited by Lobelia , edited 1 time in total.
mcdmt
34 posts
Joined December 2015
mcdmt
[Normal]
00:00:949 (1) - 很奇怪啊

这个点在外面了
最好改成这样

02:29:553 (2,3) - DS
00:35:135 (2) - 红点去掉

00:53:972 (1,2) - 叠上了
02:32:344 (2,3) - ^
02:51:879 (2,3) - ^
03:58:855 (2,3) - ^
01:25:367 (3) - 看不清
02:00:251 (4,1) - flow反了
02:35:832 (3) - 考虑在这附近放spinner吧
[Collab Hard]
00:12:460 (2,3) - 叠上了
02:32:693 (4,1) - ^
03:55:018 (3,1) - ^
01:06:530 (1) - 不好看
04:18:041 (2) - ^
04:23:274 (1) - 换spinner
[Insane]
00:13:856 (2,3) - 叠上了
02:32:693 (4,1) - ^
02:44:553 (2,3) - ^
02:49:438 (5,1) - ^
03:26:589 (2) -
剩下就没什么大问题了 :)
DJMax
112 posts
Joined March 2015
DJMax
General
音效很不错，赞一个
Normal
好像没什么问题
Collab hard
01:07:053 (2,3,4) - 试着摆的更像个三角形？
03:49:088 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉flow不太顺，也许可以改成平行四边形？
Insane
00:22:577 (2,3,4) - 建议改成折返滑条

挺不错的，祝早日rank（说什么呢这么水的摸
Lily Bread
1,228 posts
Joined December 2014
Lily Bread
[Normal]
虽然说因为没有easy所以你normal需要做的简单一点，不过你这样直到第二个kiai为止，前奏，主歌，副歌全是一个节奏，连物件的密度都一样，这也太别扭了。建议你把kiai里的类似这样的节奏全部拆成类似这样的节奏

[hard]
00:34:262 (5,1) - 既然是hard那这里的三连还是做出来吧。这属于比较关键的地方，不应该不map
00:57:809 (4,1) - 01:03:565 (4,5,1) - 对比一下这两个，我觉得它们应该要是一个节奏才对

跟normal一个问题，你对比一下 - 01:30:251 (1,2) - 00:14:902 (1,2,3,4) - 你kiai里甚至还有空拍，为什么前奏反而塞满了？就算你想这样跟..只要简单把DS放大或者SV x1.1这样就可以了。现在这样还是让人感觉不出哪里“気合い”了

[Insane]
00:22:577 (2,3,4) - 这...嘛要map也没什么问题..不过这种地方空出来也挺好的。是1/3而且这么轻..

小毛病就不挑了。insane好神
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Lily Bread wrote:

[Normal]
虽然说因为没有easy所以你normal需要做的简单一点，不过你这样直到第二个kiai为止，前奏，主歌，副歌全是一个节奏，连物件的密度都一样，这也太别扭了。建议你把kiai里的类似这样的节奏全部拆成类似这样的节奏QWQ其实我也有你这种想法。。不过这样改动有点太大，我再看看情况

[hard]
00:34:262 (5,1) - 既然是hard那这里的三连还是做出来吧。这属于比较关键的地方，不应该不map
00:57:809 (4,1) - 01:03:565 (4,5,1) - 对比一下这两个，我觉得它们应该要是一个节奏才对好哒

跟normal一个问题，你对比一下 - 01:30:251 (1,2) - 00:14:902 (1,2,3,4) - 你kiai里甚至还有空拍，为什么前奏反而塞满了？就算你想这样跟..只要简单把DS放大或者SV x1.1这样就可以了。现在这样还是让人感觉不出哪里“気合い”了
这歌Hard因为是COLLAB所以有些地方并不是我的，两个人作图有些想法不太一样QWQ我会跟瓜子大大协商一下的

[Insane]
00:22:577 (2,3,4) - 这...嘛要map也没什么问题..不过这种地方空出来也挺好的。是1/3而且这么轻..改改改。。。

小毛病就不挑了。insane好神热瓜子大大调教的好QWQ
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Lobelia
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Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Dynamix wrote:

General
音效很不错，赞一个
Normal
好像没什么问题
Collab hard
01:07:053 (2,3,4) - 试着摆的更像个三角形？
03:49:088 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉flow不太顺，也许可以改成平行四边形？没有按照你的改QWQ不过我改动了
Insane
00:22:577 (2,3,4) - 建议改成折返滑条√

挺不错的，祝早日rank（说什么呢这么水的摸阿里嘎多
Sandrew
543 posts
Joined March 2014
Sandrew
实在是摸不出什么东西，我只能射颗星给你算是帮助了
不要给我kd
不要给我kd
不要给我kd
重要的事情说三遍
insane
03:31:996 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 串直的有点违和，一定是我个人问题
切指变多了不考虑一下od7.5吗
最后，各种五角星太有某种既视感
collab hard
切指的难度让我切出去看了看难度，ar7.5可能低了点反正我读不了
00:28:681 (6,1) - 这种梗hard里常见吗真的好难（这只是个疑问不是反问
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Sandrew wrote:

实在是摸不出什么东西，我只能射颗星给你算是帮助了
不要给我kd
不要给我kd
不要给我kd唔。。。。。
重要的事情说三遍
insane
03:31:996 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 串直的有点违和，一定是我个人问题
切指变多了不考虑一下od7.5吗
最后，各种五角星太有某种既视感
collab hard
切指的难度让我切出去看了看难度，ar7.5可能低了点反正我读不了
00:28:681 (6,1) - 这种梗hard里常见吗真的好难（这只是个疑问不是反问
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
kanor
[normal]
00:03:042 (2) - 这个音建议放到00:03:042 (2) - 而且去掉折返舒服一点
00:03:740 (1) - 拉长到00:03:739 (1) - ，然后00:05:135 (2) - 缩短
00:07:228 (3) - 拉长到00:07:228 (3) -
00:09:670 (2) - 改成1/1的折返听起来舒服点

[hard collab]
00:08:449 (2) - 这个滑条去掉感觉整体的段落更明显一点.......
00:10:193 (3) - 这里建议改成折返
00:18:914 (4,1) - 滑条最好从4开始拉，从1拉换轨太生硬了
00:34:262 (5,1) - 还是感觉是切轨问题......
01:16:297 (1) - 感觉滑条比转盘表现力要好一点。
02:04:437 (3) - 这里最好再折返一次，不然感觉打起来又不是很流畅.....
02:07:228 (3) - ^
02:34:437 (1) - ^01:16:297 (1) -
03:38:623 - 这里加个finish感觉舒服一点
03:48:914 - 03:49:001 - 这两个地方不下NOTE感觉好违和......毕竟是曲子里面非常清晰的三连
[Insane]
01:46:995 - 感觉从这开始就可以不用break了，不然和后面的NOTE连接感觉不是很好......
01:52:402 - 这里没下note，感觉有些违和
01:56:589 (4,1) - 1感觉叠在4下面要舒服一点，另外我个人比较倾向从4就开始拖滑条......
02:14:903 (1,2,3,4) - 这里压的事伴奏？感觉这人声更突出一点，放弃人声去压伴奏会不会打乱玩家的节奏？
02:59:554 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这个地方感觉放的有些勉强，只是1/1的话还是直接break比较好......如果要放的话放个DS逐渐变大的单点感觉会更合曲一点owo
03:42:461 (1) - 这个滑条既没压全人声，建议03:42:460 改成单点，滑条缩短到从03:42:635 (1) - 开始

做得不错呦0w0学到了很多东西
新人水膜求眼熟♪(^∇^*)
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

kanor wrote:

[normal]
00:03:042 (2) - 这个音建议放到00:03:042 (2) - 而且去掉折返舒服一点
00:03:740 (1) - 拉长到00:03:739 (1) - ，然后00:05:135 (2) - 缩短
00:07:228 (3) - 拉长到00:07:228 (3) -
00:09:670 (2) - 改成1/1的折返听起来舒服点
有些指向不太明确。。没太看懂，不过有微调

[hard collab]
00:08:449 (2) - 这个滑条去掉感觉整体的段落更明显一点.......√
00:10:193 (3) - 这里建议改成折返
00:18:914 (4,1) - 滑条最好从4开始拉，从1拉换轨太生硬了
00:34:262 (5,1) - 还是感觉是切轨问题......
01:16:297 (1) - 感觉滑条比转盘表现力要好一点。
02:04:437 (3) - 这里最好再折返一次，不然感觉打起来又不是很流畅.....
02:07:228 (3) - ^
02:34:437 (1) - ^01:16:297 (1) -
03:38:623 - 这里加个finish感觉舒服一点
03:48:914 - 03:49:001 - 这两个地方不下NOTE感觉好违和......毕竟是曲子里面非常清晰的三连QWQ这里加三连有点难
[Insane]
01:46:995 - 感觉从这开始就可以不用break了，不然和后面的NOTE连接感觉不是很好......
01:52:402 - 这里没下note，感觉有些违和
01:56:589 (4,1) - 1感觉叠在4下面要舒服一点，另外我个人比较倾向从4就开始拖滑条......
02:14:903 (1,2,3,4) - 这里压的事伴奏？感觉这人声更突出一点，放弃人声去压伴奏会不会打乱玩家的节奏？
02:59:554 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这个地方感觉放的有些勉强，只是1/1的话还是直接break比较好......如果要放的话放个DS逐渐变大的单点感觉会更合曲一点owo
03:42:461 (1) - 这个滑条既没压全人声，建议03:42:460 改成单点，滑条缩短到从03:42:635 (1) - 开始
QWQ大致都看了，有微调具体就不一一回复啦

做得不错呦0w0学到了很多东西
新人水膜求眼熟♪(^∇^*)
Momizi
275 posts
Joined June 2013
Momizi
HI，M4M还债
[Metedate]
忘记怎么拼了，反正知道是这啥的介绍可以放到tag啥啥的里面就行了，嘻嘻
词曲:みきとP
专辑: Riboot
[Insane]
00:03:740 (1,3) - overlap，这里是顺flow的，虽然在很多rank图都有这种出现，然而对我我主观来看是不好看的。打图的时候你会看到后面的滑条头半个在下面不是很好看。
00:05:135 (1,2,3,4) - 这里突然缓和到1分拍，感觉有点不明，建议还是1/2滑条之类的，因为你下的这四个白线的点也没什么明显的音吐出来
00:09:844 (2) - 弧度有点过大了，建议弧度小一点，类似00:09:321 (1) - 一样
00:13:856 (2) - 往下移动，用滑条的身体把00:12:984 (4) - 包住，算是一个在edit看图看起来不乱的小技巧（自己总结的
00:39:321 (3,1) - 这里的尾巴尽量别碰到滑条头吧
01:09:321 (1,2,3,4) - 还是建议1/2塞满，如果是想刻意体现vocal的话，后面那些1/2塞满的(01:10:717 (1,2) - )为什么也不用单白线的note呢
01:52:577 - 无用的绿线，可以用前面一根来调节音量和音效组
02:21:879 (1) - 这种滑条感觉不太好用呢，普通图。怎么说呢，比较适合那种在滑条中间有明显的转折那种的，我也表达不好，就是曲子给人有种扭来扭去的感觉吧才适合这种滑条吧
02:37:053 - 这里的vocal感觉应该放一个note，你局的呢XD
02:40:368 (2,3,4,5,6) - 一眼看去就感觉距离不对，可能是眼花，如果是五角星跳的话，建议先用作图弄出五边形，然后选中相应的数字对应的note用ctrl+G来互相调整位置会比较好，这样不会改变图形
02:57:286 (3) - 虽然我一般不提balnket，不过这里可以用滑条的边缘环绕住02:56:065 (3) -
03:14:903 (1,2,3,4) - 这里的弧度不太好呢，2 3这两个
03:28:856 (1,2) - 这里两个重音感觉1/2塞满note会更加带感，不用滑条，用note，1 2的位置不用改了，可以开DS在1和2的后面分别添加一个note。就像这里的03:29:554 (1,2) -
04:03:217 (4,2) - 试试包在滑条身体内
04:22:577 (1,2) - 中间那个音还有2后面的感觉不能省略，既然这段都跟着vocal了
[Collab Hard]
00:12:460 (2) - 稍微往上移动一点把后一个滑条的尾巴露出来
00:49:437 (5,1) - 滑条箭头有点碰到了，建议分开（吹毛求疵的话能DQ
02:07:228 (3,1) - 这里的距离好像有点近了，可能会跟1/2混一起

低难度就随便稍微看了下，总之基本是开着DS过去，基本不会出什么差错（
于是就这样吧，水的差不多了
__Ag
597 posts
Joined July 2011
__Ag
NM，因为赶着睡觉，就看一个难度了，抱歉

insane
00:03:740 (1,3) - 可以的话这两个不要粘连，因为这个粘连程度看起来有点暧昧

00:09:321 (1,2) - 这两个包的不好，2可以再舒展开一些

00:17:693 (1,2,3,4) - 角度flow不好，不如就做成不过时的弧形

00:32:868 (1,3) - 没有完全重叠（你可以在1后面的蓝线放上note，这样就完全重叠了，然后手动拖到3的红线位置

00:38:275 (5) - 可以NC，然后00:38:798 (1) - 这个取消NC，然后00:39:321 (3) - 这个再NC

00:43:507 (3,4,5,6) - flow不太好，4和6对调好一些

02:19:089 (1,2) - 听鼓音这两个应该是单点，然后02:20:484 (1,2,3,4) - 这里换成滑条接上

02:34:262 (6,1) - 没有完全重叠

02:36:530 (3) - 这一个没必要换成N音啊，反而有点吵

02:40:368 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这个我有个梗，你可以试试，https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4819744，这种很有flow

03:27:461 (1,2,3,4) - 平行跳不好，真不好，不如2 4对调

04:28:507 (5,1) - 重叠

04:29:902 (4,1) - ^

04:32:693 (4,1) - ^

据说你是天使牛郎的mapping师傅，GL
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Momizi wrote:

HI，M4M还债
[Metedate]
忘记怎么拼了，反正知道是这啥的介绍可以放到tag啥啥的里面就行了，嘻嘻
词曲:みきとP
专辑: Riboot
√
[Insane]
00:03:740 (1,3) - overlap，这里是顺flow的，虽然在很多rank图都有这种出现，然而对我我主观来看是不好看的。打图的时候你会看到后面的滑条头半个在下面不是很好看。√
00:05:135 (1,2,3,4) - 这里突然缓和到1分拍，感觉有点不明，建议还是1/2滑条之类的，因为你下的这四个白线的点也没什么明显的音吐出来这里开始没人声了也很平的调子。。我觉得蛮好的
00:09:844 (2) - 弧度有点过大了，建议弧度小一点，类似00:09:321 (1) - 一样√
00:13:856 (2) - 往下移动，用滑条的身体把00:12:984 (4) - 包住，算是一个在edit看图看起来不乱的小技巧（自己总结的√
00:39:321 (3,1) - 这里的尾巴尽量别碰到滑条头吧√
01:09:321 (1,2,3,4) - 还是建议1/2塞满，如果是想刻意体现vocal的话，后面那些1/2塞满的(01:10:717 (1,2) - )为什么也不用单白线的note呢QWQ我觉得这里人声更激昂，可以这样
01:52:577 - 无用的绿线，可以用前面一根来调节音量和音效组就是调节音量用的啊。。。
02:21:879 (1) - 这种滑条感觉不太好用呢，普通图。怎么说呢，比较适合那种在滑条中间有明显的转折那种的，我也表达不好，就是曲子给人有种扭来扭去的感觉吧才适合这种滑条吧
02:37:053 - 这里的vocal感觉应该放一个note，你局的呢XD
02:40:368 (2,3,4,5,6) - 一眼看去就感觉距离不对，可能是眼花，如果是五角星跳的话，建议先用作图弄出五边形，然后选中相应的数字对应的note用ctrl+G来互相调整位置会比较好，这样不会改变图形√
02:57:286 (3) - 虽然我一般不提balnket，不过这里可以用滑条的边缘环绕住02:56:065 (3) - √
03:14:903 (1,2,3,4) - 这里的弧度不太好呢，2 3这两个√
03:28:856 (1,2) - 这里两个重音感觉1/2塞满note会更加带感，不用滑条，用note，1 2的位置不用改了，可以开DS在1和2的后面分别添加一个note。就像这里的03:29:554 (1,2) -
04:03:217 (4,2) - 试试包在滑条身体内好
04:22:577 (1,2) - 中间那个音还有2后面的感觉不能省略，既然这段都跟着vocal了
[Collab Hard]
00:12:460 (2) - 稍微往上移动一点把后一个滑条的尾巴露出来√
00:49:437 (5,1) - 滑条箭头有点碰到了，建议分开（吹毛求疵的话能DQ√
02:07:228 (3,1) - 这里的距离好像有点近了，可能会跟1/2混一起

低难度就随便稍微看了下，总之基本是开着DS过去，基本不会出什么差错（
于是就这样吧，水的差不多了
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

__Ag wrote:

NM，因为赶着睡觉，就看一个难度了，抱歉

insane
00:03:740 (1,3) - 可以的话这两个不要粘连，因为这个粘连程度看起来有点暧昧√

00:09:321 (1,2) - 这两个包的不好，2可以再舒展开一些√

00:17:693 (1,2,3,4) - 角度flow不好，不如就做成不过时的弧形√

00:32:868 (1,3) - 没有完全重叠（你可以在1后面的蓝线放上note，这样就完全重叠了，然后手动拖到3的红线位置

00:38:275 (5) - 可以NC，然后00:38:798 (1) - 这个取消NC，然后00:39:321 (3) - 这个再NC感觉不错

00:43:507 (3,4,5,6) - flow不太好，4和6对调好一些√

02:19:089 (1,2) - 听鼓音这两个应该是单点，然后02:20:484 (1,2,3,4) - 这里换成滑条接上这个全单点看着有些乱。。。我开始这块是单点的，所以不改了

02:34:262 (6,1) - 没有完全重叠

02:36:530 (3) - 这一个没必要换成N音啊，反而有点吵√

02:40:368 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这个我有个梗，你可以试试，https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4819744，这种很有flow√

03:27:461 (1,2,3,4) - 平行跳不好，真不好，不如2 4对调√

04:28:507 (5,1) - 重叠

04:29:902 (4,1) - ^

04:32:693 (4,1) - ^

重叠的问题都改了，重叠方面的就不一个个回复了

据说你是天使牛郎的mapping师傅，GL他老喜欢黑我。。。千万别听他的，我就教了他怎么做timing而已
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