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narakucrimson
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on martes, 08 de febrero de 2011 at 04:04:12 p.m.

Artist: Disturbed
Title: Indestructible
Tags: hard rock heavy alternative nu metal
BPM: 180
Filesize: 19393kb
Play Time: 04:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. Indestructible (4,98 stars, 570 notes)
  2. Newbie (2,9 stars, 255 notes)
  3. Trained (4,6 stars, 412 notes)
Download: Disturbed - Indestructible
Download: Disturbed - Indestructible (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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You will be shown, how I've become
Indestructible.
~
My 2nd beatmap.


If you downloaded this before January 16th, please re-download, new mp3

As the last time, hope you like it n.n
FireballFlame
The offset should be about 22.825-22.830. After changing, press Ctrl+A and align the first note to the large white tick. (on both diffs)
Also, the combo colors need to be much brighter; I couldn't see a single approach circle before changing them.
01:02:828 - 01:07:495 - Is that spacing change really necessary? (also what it happens again later)

[Indestructible]
02:21:995 (1,2,3) - Confusing spacing, 1 and 3 should have about the same distance from 2.
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

FireballFlame wrote:

The offset should be about 22.825-22.830. After changing, press Ctrl+A and align the first note to the large white tick. (on both diffs)
Yup, you're right. Fixed that!

Also, the combo colors need to be much brighter; I couldn't see a single approach circle before changing them. Sure thing. I've fixed it.

01:02:828 - 01:07:495 - Is that spacing change really necessary? (also what it happens again later) It's like a relax before the music recovers the pace. I think it fits well :D

[Indestructible]
02:21:995 (1,2,3) - Confusing spacing, 1 and 3 should have about the same distance from 2. Fixed!
Thanks a lot, I know you don't like the genre but you modded it anyway :3 I preciate it :D
Samah
Nice song, nice maps. I feel that both difficulties flow very nicely, but most of my gripes are with the timing points.

General:
Combo colours 4 and 5 are very similar. Make 5 a bit lighter or darker.
Some of your kiai sections are very long and detract from its impact.

Trained:
01:02:741: Put a 0.5x non-kiai inherited section here, but keep the kiai timing point at 01:02:824 too. This way the kiai will still kick in on the note, but the 0.5x bpm will correctly affect the slider. At the moment the slider at that point is still 1x.
01:07:09: This timing point makes no sense in my opinion. Delete it and place these two inherited points: (01:07:824 1x, non-kiai), (01:08:158 1x, kiai)
01:03:51: Move this timing point back to 01:03:491.
01:23:84, 01:24:18: Move these timing points back to align them with circles 5 and 6.

Indestructible:
Make the same timing changes from Trained, followed by:
01:59:991: Place a 0.5x non-kiai inherited timing point here.
02:00:158: Move the 0.5x kiai point at 02:00:18 back to here.
02:00:824: Move the 0.5x non-kiai point at 02:00:84 back to here.
02:05:491: Move the kiai point at 02:05:51 back to here.
02:21:18, 02:21:51: Move these timing points back to align them with circles 4 and 5.
02:26:491: Move the non-kiai point at 02:26:51 back to here.
02:26:658 (1): Move this spinner forward to 02:26:824 and end it at 02:29:491.
03:06:824: Move the kiai point at 03:06:84 back to here.

Delete these timing points: 03:22:18, 03:26:84, 03:28:18
Add these inherited timing points:
03:22:491, non-kiai
03:22:824, kiai
03:27:824, non-kiai

04:07:824 (2,3): Just a suggestion, try something like this instead, and add a finish sound to 3.


Fix the timing point issues and I'll star.

Edit: Looks good, starred. :)
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Samah wrote:

Nice song, nice maps. I feel that both difficulties flow very nicely, but most of my gripes are with the timing points.

General:
Combo colours 4 and 5 are very similar. Make 5 a bit lighter or darker. Done.
Some of your kiai sections are very long and detract from its impact. Fixed. Check it back to see if you like the new kiai sections!

Trained:
01:02:741: Put a 0.5x non-kiai inherited section here, but keep the kiai timing point at 01:02:824 too. This way the kiai will still kick in on the note, but the 0.5x bpm will correctly affect the slider. At the moment the slider at that point is still 1x.
01:07:09: This timing point makes no sense in my opinion. Delete it and place these two inherited points: (01:07:824 1x, non-kiai), (01:08:158 1x, kiai)
01:03:51: Move this timing point back to 01:03:491.
01:23:84, 01:24:18: Move these timing points back to align them with circles 5 and 6.

There's a problem here. You see, I had another version of the map, that I had forgotten to upload. Those times you said kinda confused me :S. So, the timings seem to be aligned now, be sure to check it!

Indestructible:
Make the same timing changes from Trained, followed by:
01:59:991: Place a 0.5x non-kiai inherited timing point here.
02:00:158: Move the 0.5x kiai point at 02:00:18 back to here.
02:00:824: Move the 0.5x non-kiai point at 02:00:84 back to here.
02:05:491: Move the kiai point at 02:05:51 back to here.
02:21:18, 02:21:51: Move these timing points back to align them with circles 4 and 5.
02:26:491: Move the non-kiai point at 02:26:51 back to here.
02:26:658 (1): Move this spinner forward to 02:26:824 and end it at 02:29:491.
03:06:824: Move the kiai point at 03:06:84 back to here.

Delete these timing points: 03:22:18, 03:26:84, 03:28:18
Add these inherited timing points:
03:22:491, non-kiai
03:22:824, kiai
03:27:824, non-kiai

Same here. You should check the new timing sections. Sorry for the trouble u.u

04:07:824 (2,3): Just a suggestion, try something like this instead, and add a finish sound to 3. Sure thing!

Thanks a lot! I'm sure you'll like the new version!
Glass
[Trained]
00:40:658 (3,4,5) - Move this part to the bottom of the map (?) (2) is kinda overlapping (4).
00:55:491 (2) - Stack this on top of 3 (?)
01:42:158 (2) - ^
01:44:824 (2) - Remove this note and make (1) a repeat slider (?)

[Indestructible]
04:00:158 (T) - Add a note (?)
04:03:991 (T) - ^
04:04:658 (T) - ^
04:04:824 (T) - ^
you could've also added more notes to set a stable rhythm in the beginning of the song but I overlooked it because you probably wanted to start the map with just some easy patter.

Once again, nothing critical.

Starred. ;)
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Glass wrote:

[Trained]
00:40:658 (3,4,5) - Move this part to the bottom of the map (?) (2) is kinda overlapping (4). Didn't do exactly that, but I moved it n.n
00:55:491 (2) - Stack this on top of 3 (?) Done
01:42:158 (2) - ^ Done, too
01:44:824 (2) - Remove this note and make (1) a repeat slider (?) I like it as it is n.n

[Indestructible]
04:00:158 (T) - Add a note (?) Sure!
04:03:991 (T) - ^ Done
04:04:658 (T) - ^ No, it's like a pause, the guitar does some kind of pause, that's why I left it like that :D
04:04:824 (T) - ^ Left it the same for the same reason as before n.n
you could've also added more notes to set a stable rhythm in the beginning of the song but I overlooked it because you probably wanted to start the map with just some easy patter. Exactly xD
Thanks Glass :D
Charles445
Newbie
Holy slider velocity batman. Slow it down.

Indestructible
00:41:825 Map this break
01:13:491 End Kiai here
02:10:824 ^^
03:11:991 ^^

Nothing much to say - it's all functional.
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Charles445 wrote:

Newbie
Holy slider velocity batman. Slow it down.

Indestructible
00:41:825 Map this break
01:13:491 End Kiai here
02:10:824 ^^
03:11:991 ^^

Everything was fixed!

Nothing much to say - it's all functional.Thanks
Thanks a lot n.n
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Samah wrote:

Edit: Looks good, starred. :)
xD thanks :3
IceBeam
Disable letterboxes during breaks.

[Newbie]
I found some moments where spacing is wrong,you should use DS properly.
00:23:158 - You better add a note here.
00:26:991 (1,2) - This pattern is hard to read for newbiew,I suggest you to move (1)-st note back to white tick.
00:41:491 (5) - Add finish.
01:02:824 - Huh? 0.5x in Easy? No way,please remove it.
01:29:574 (1) - Start if from next red tick.
02:00:158 - Well same about 0.5x,moreover there's no reason in song to make hold slider/slodwon section.

[Trained]
00:39:657 (1) - Why it's so close to (5)? Increase distance a bit,moving few grids right.
00:41:491 (5) - Change to finish.
01:18:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing makes no sense,you should reverse both(reverse selection for 4,5) or make them all straight.
02:16:158 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
03:17:491 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
03:38:825 (1,2,3,4,5) - Oh come on :|
Don't use copypaste on each chorus next time,please.

[iwonttypeitcorrect]
Much better,I like this one.
00:51:491 (1,1,1) - Dat's pure combo spam,please remove new combos.
01:29:325 (1) - Finish this spinner at 01:32:158 or red tick?
02:26:658 (1) - ^ at 02:29:324.

Best wishes to you.
Star~
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

IceBeam wrote:

Disable letterboxes during breaks. Fixed, though I don't actually know what this changes xD

[Newbie]
I found some moments where spacing is wrong,you should use DS properly. Sure, I'll do my best
00:23:158 - You better add a note here. Ok!
00:26:991 (1,2) - This pattern is hard to read for newbie,I suggest you to move (1)-st note back to white tick.You're right
00:41:491 (5) - Add finish.Sounds good!
01:02:824 - Huh? 0.5x in Easy? No way,please remove it. Right, it fits better in the other diffs
01:29:574 (1) - Start if from next red tick. Done
02:00:158 - Well same about 0.5x,moreover there's no reason in song to make hold slider/slodwon section. Fixed!

[Trained]
00:39:657 (1) - Why it's so close to (5)? Increase distance a bit,moving few grids right.It's well spaced, in fact
00:41:491 (5) - Change to finish. Sure thing!
01:18:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing makes no sense,you should reverse both(reverse selection for 4,5) or make them all straight.Solved it in another way
02:16:158 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ Same here
03:17:491 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ Saaame
03:38:825 (1,2,3,4,5) - Oh come on :| xD
Don't use copypaste on each chorus next time,please. it's not that I'm lazy, it's to keep it consistent over a certain pattern. But, whatever xD I won't do it next time.

[iwonttypeitcorrect] <------ xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Much better,I like this one.
00:51:491 (1,1,1) - Dat's pure combo spam,please remove new combos. I actually didn't mean to do that xD Thanks for noticing
01:29:325 (1) - Finish this spinner at 01:32:158 or red tick? Chose red tick~~
02:26:658 (1) - ^ at 02:29:324. White tick now xD
Thanks a lot!
Jako87
[Newbie]
It's good, at least I didn't find anything wrong :)

[Trained]
00:57:491 remove note, add note to 00:57:324 and 00:57:658 (follows lyrics better)
OR
00:57:491 remove note, make slider longer that it ends at 00:57:324 and add note to 00:57:658

01:00:324 make this slider 1/2 beat longer (so it ends 01:00:658)
Do the same to the sliders at 01:38:991, 01:41:658, 01:46:991

01:29:658 spinner could start 1/2 beat earlier. Ending is in good potision.

01:51:491 maybe remove (5) and (6) and make slider starting at (5). There is empty spot with lyrics but no notes.

01:43:491 make slider 1/2 beat longer and move (7) 1/2 beat forward.

I liked the solo part and ending, it was different in a good way. :)

[Indesdustractrudziglbtectibleeeeeah]
Great difficulty, nice flow trought the song.

There is maybe too much repeat in combinations but still not quite. Good map.

I hope that this was helpful to you at least in some way. And of course the star.
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Jako87 wrote:

[Trained]
00:57:491 remove note, add note to 00:57:324 and 00:57:658 (follows lyrics better)
OR
00:57:491 remove note, make slider longer that it ends at 00:57:324 and add note to 00:57:658 I considered wither way would be confusing due to a rhythm pattern I had been following

01:00:324 make this slider 1/2 beat longer (so it ends 01:00:658)
Do the same to the sliders at 01:38:991, 01:41:658, 01:46:991 Sure!

01:29:658 spinner could start 1/2 beat earlier. Ending is in good potision. Sounds good n.n

01:51:491 maybe remove (5) and (6) and make slider starting at (5). There is empty spot with lyrics but no notes. I did a mini-stream starting at 1:51:491 and ending at 1:51:991

01:43:491 make slider 1/2 beat longer and move (7) 1/2 beat forward. I like it better as it is :/ Sorry
Of course you were helpful n.n thanks :)
Leeg
Congrats. It's nice, fix what I told you via IRC :D
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Yup, I've done it already n.n Thanks a lot~~
Lanttu
It's funny, I usually don't enjoy music from this genre at all, but this song is really catchy. ouo

You should use more finish hitsounds, they fit songs like this~ Also, most of this is just minor suggerstions again, feel free to ignore some if you disagree. X)

[Indestrfkjdkugugugu]
00:24:825 (3) - Little bit of a nazi here, and I know the spacing is right according to the distance snap, but maybe move this one grid down so that it doesn't touch the other circle? X3
00:25:492 (3) - For the same reason, one grid left?
02:06:325 (4,5) - It's fine also like that, but I think it would be cool if you reversed these notes~
03:06:159 (1) - Remove new combo?
03:10:908 (1) - You sure this is at the right place on the blue tick? Move it to the next red one?
03:28:992 (4,5) - Again, like before, maybe reverse these two?
04:00:825 (4) - Hmmm, this ending part feels like copy&pasta from the beginning, so same one grid movements here? :3

[Trained]
01:02:157 (1) - Remove new combo
01:25:491 (3) - New combo here, then remove the two next new combos and add one to 01:26:824 (4)
02:22:825 (3) - Same combo thing here as above
02:47:824 (1) - Delete new combo and add it to the next note
03:24:158 (3) - And once again.. XD
03:45:991 (1) - And again....

[Newbie]
00:22:824 (1) - Move two grids down.
00:26:825 (1) - Remove new combo and add it to next note.
00:54:825 (5) - New combo and remove it from the next note.
01:41:491 (5) - ^
01:52:824 (6) - Maybe new combo here

Starred~*
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Lanttu wrote:

It's funny, I usually don't enjoy music from this genre at all, but this song is really catchy. ouo Yeah, that's right! xD

You should use more finish hitsounds, they fit songs like this~ Also, most of this is just minor suggerstions again, feel free to ignore some if you disagree. X) I'll see what I can do :O - and about the hitsounds, I'll wait for more comments about that n.n

[Indestrfkjdkugugugu]
00:24:825 (3) - Little bit of a nazi here, and I know the spacing is right according to the distance snap, but maybe move this one grid down so that it doesn't touch the other circle? X3 Ok!
00:25:492 (3) - For the same reason, one grid left? Ok, too!
02:06:325 (4,5) - It's fine also like that, but I think it would be cool if you reversed these notes~ Woototo (?) nah, I like it how it is n.n
03:06:159 (1) - Remove new combo? Sure!
03:10:908 (1) - You sure this is at the right place on the blue tick? Move it to the next red one? Yeah, it sounds better
03:28:992 (4,5) - Again, like before, maybe reverse these two? B-but I like it how it is ;_;
04:00:825 (4) - Hmmm, this ending part feels like copy&pasta from the beginning, so same one grid movements here? :3 It is copy&paste xD Sure, I'll fix it

[Trained]
01:02:157 (1) - Remove new combo Fixed!
01:25:491 (3) - New combo here, then remove the two next new combos and add one to 01:26:824 (4) kk
02:22:825 (3) - Same combo thing here as above yush!
02:47:824 (1) - Delete new combo and add it to the next note Adding this side notes is boring xD ok!
03:24:158 (3) - And once again.. XD
03:45:991 (1) - And again.... Lol

[Newbie]
00:22:824 (1) - Move two grids down.
00:26:825 (1) - Remove new combo and add it to next note.
00:54:825 (5) - New combo and remove it from the next note.
01:41:491 (5) - ^
01:52:824 (6) - Maybe new combo here

Applied all those changes xD
Thanks Lanttu-chan :3
Dotsu
~STAR~
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
thanks n.n
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