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Reol - Streaming Heart [Taiko]

posted 2016-01-28T15:24:53+00:00

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Chromoxx

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Chromoxx 2016-01-28T15:24:53+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 6. Mai 2016 at 16:52:16

Artist: Reol
Title: Streaming Heart
Tags: utaite cover giga giga-p hatsune miku vocaloid deco*27 nwolf
BPM: 210
Filesize: 4597kb
Play Time: 02:57
Difficulties Available:

Futsuu (2,77 stars, 412 notes)
Inner Oni (6,11 stars, 1447 notes)
Kantan (1,62 stars, 245 notes)
Nwolf's Muzukashii (3,15 stars, 695 notes)
Oni (4,68 stars, 1000 notes)

Download: Reol - Streaming Heart
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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H Y P E B O I S
Thank you Nwolf for the Muzu <3

Last edited by Chromoxx 2016-05-06T14:52:33+00:00, edited 18 times in total.

DarkVortex

668 posts

Joined September 2012

DarkVortex 2016-03-09T21:48:43+00:00

Heyho o/

[Kantan]
00:21:632 (24,25) - k d passt hier nicht wirklich rein. Lieber d k oder k k für mehr Variation.
00:28:775 (1) - Der Spinner ist ziemlich kurz (eher zu kurz für ne Kantan finde ich). Ich würd ihn einfach weglassen bzw einfach ein d dahinsetzen.
00:38:775 (12) - k
01:51:061 (39) - Hier ist kein Beat. Bessere Idee:

SPOILER

01:59:061 (49,50,51,52,53) - k k k d k um (52) mehr hervorzuheben
02:09:061 (63) - d
02:29:347 - k

[Futsuu]
00:20:775 (32,33,34,35) - k k d k
00:41:061 (24,25) - 1/2 früher passt besser zur Stimme
00:41:918 - Wenn du ^ machst dann d hier
00:43:347 (29,30) - 1/2 früher
00:45:632 (35,36) - ^
00:47:775 (41,42) - k an (41) und (42) löschen
00:49:775 - k
00:53:918 (53) - k?
00:58:347 (63) - Ich finde der kat muss da nicht wirklich hin.
01:02:918 (76) - ^
01:07:775 - k
01:10:061 - ^
01:12:347 - ^
01:14:632 (106) - k
01:32:775 (14,15,16,17) - k k kd ?
01:51:061 - siehe Kantan
01:53:347 (64,65,66) - Warum nicht einfach d d k bzw k d k?
01:55:632 (70,71,72) - ^
01:57:918 (76,77,78) - ^
02:00:204 (82,83,84,85) - ^
02:09:775 (106) - k k k 1/1 reicht hier völlig imo
02:11:347 - d
02:12:632 (112) - löschen
02:17:204 (129) - ^
02:19:347 - k
02:23:918 - k
02:27:204 (161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169) - ziemlich schwer für ne Futsuu. Besser wäre z.B. 02:27:204 (161,164,167) - zu löschen.
02:38:204 - k d

[Muzukashii]
00:47:918 - d
01:15:061 - k
01:33:061 (25,26,27) - k k k d würde hier gut passen
02:00:775 (42) - k um den letzten Beat hervorzuheben
02:20:204 - k
02:21:632 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - das hier würde besser passen imo

SPOILER

02:25:204 (27) - löschen
02:26:204 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - siehe oben

[Oni]
OD5.5 oder OD6 für besseren Spread

00:09:418 - d
00:38:132 - d
01:32:775 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352) - o.O Wie wäre es mit D kkkkk d ?
01:51:347 - k
01:52:061 - kkd

[Inner Oni]
00:29:727 (217,218,219,220,221) - ja genau
01:32:775 (698,699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709) - d d kkkkkkd
01:38:204 (752,754) - ctrl+g
01:45:061 - k
01:49:632 - ^
01:52:061 - kkd
02:00:775 (926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - Der Stream sollte eigentlich schon bei (926) aufhören, danach kommt nur noch die ausklingende Gitarre.
02:19:704 (1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089,1090) - Vielleicht lieber 1/2 hier? Das würde nen besseren Kontrast zum Teil vorher und nachher geben (der auch in der Musik ist). Außerdem sind da nicht wirklich 1/4 zu hören.

Insgesamt gutes Mapset, viel Glück beim Ranken!

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Chromoxx 2016-03-10T12:55:37+00:00

DarkVortex wrote:
Heyho o/

[Kantan]
00:21:632 (24,25) - k d passt hier nicht wirklich rein. Lieber d k oder k k für mehr Variation. okay, kk
00:28:775 (1) - Der Spinner ist ziemlich kurz (eher zu kurz für ne Kantan finde ich). Ich würd ihn einfach weglassen bzw einfach ein d dahinsetzen. ich lass den spinner erstmal hier, da es keine penalty gibt wenn man ihn nicht richtig durchzieht... außerdem sind kurze spinner leichter, da man nicht so lange 1/4 durchhalten muss
00:38:775 (12) - k hm, ich bin normalerweise treuer vertreter von kkd, aber hier find ich irgendwie das kdd besser passt
01:51:061 (39) - Hier ist kein Beat. Bessere Idee: okay, nice
SPOILER
01:59:061 (49,50,51,52,53) - k k k d k um (52) mehr hervorzuheben jo, hört sich nice an
02:09:061 (63) - d ich find kk passt besser weil das beides ziemlicch prominente vocals sind und 65 hat die nötige gewichtung da es auf dem big tick liegt
02:29:347 - k ich lass da lieber ne atempause nach dem härteren pattern davor

[Futsuu]
00:20:775 (32,33,34,35) - k k d k nice
00:41:061 (24,25) - 1/2 früher passt besser zur Stimme hatte ich selber überlegt, aber ich lass es erstmal so um den part etwas simpler zu halten
00:41:918 - Wenn du ^ machst dann d hier
00:43:347 (29,30) - 1/2 früher
00:45:632 (35,36) - ^ selbe wie für das letzte xD
00:47:775 (41,42) - k an (41) und (42) löschen okay
00:49:775 - k ich lass es hier lieber etwas entspannter
00:53:918 (53) - k? dd ist ok imo, hab das nächste pattern aber dk gemacht
00:58:347 (63) - Ich finde der kat muss da nicht wirklich hin.
01:02:918 (76) - ^ passt von der density her und spielt sich auch gut imo, wäre sonst zu leicht
01:07:775 - k
01:10:061 - ^
01:12:347 - ^ yep, yep,yep
01:14:632 (106) - k ich find das eher subtile d da besser
01:32:775 (14,15,16,17) - k k kd ?passt so besser zu den vocals
01:51:061 - siehe Kantan yep
01:53:347 (64,65,66) - Warum nicht einfach d d k bzw k d k? wäre sonst zu leicht, außerdem eskaliert es hier weitaus mehr als im part davor
01:55:632 (70,71,72) - ^
01:57:918 (76,77,78) - ^
02:00:204 (82,83,84,85) - ^ same für alle xD
02:09:775 (106) - k k k 1/1 reicht hier völlig imo mh, es passt hier, weil die drum sehr hart abgeht
02:11:347 - d ich lass es hier lieber erst bei den vocals anfangen
02:12:632 (112) - löschen same wie im ersten kiai
02:17:204 (129) - ^ ^
02:19:347 - k ich find die pause da ganz gut
02:23:918 - k ^
02:27:204 (161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169) - ziemlich schwer für ne Futsuu. Besser wäre z.B. 02:27:204 (161,164,167) - zu löschen. das pattern wiederholt sich ja und im 1/2 ist es noch relativ leicht mit einer hand zu spielen, als höhepunkt der diff kann man das eigentlich drinlassen, ich schau aber vlt wenn ich nochmal drauf angesprochen werde
02:38:204 - k d same wie bei den suggestions vorhin

[Muzukashii]
00:47:918 - d
01:15:061 - k
01:33:061 (25,26,27) - k k k d würde hier gut passen
02:00:775 (42) - k um den letzten Beat hervorzuheben
02:20:204 - k
02:21:632 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - das hier würde besser passen imo
SPOILER
02:25:204 (27) - löschen
02:26:204 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - siehe oben

[Oni]
OD5.5 oder OD6 für besseren Spread ich denke ich lass hier erstmal OD5 da die diff wirklich nicht so schwer ist, und 5 auf 6.5 geht noch, vor allem wenn man sich den diffgap ansieht

00:09:418 - d das kkkkd soll das prominente pattern sein also lass ich es hier lieber
00:38:132 - d passt nicht wirklich in den konsistenten beat rein den ich gemacht hab
01:32:775 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352) - o.O Wie wäre es mit D kkkkk d ? hört sich so besser an imo und spielt sich auch gut
01:51:347 - k d d ist hier ok denk ich
01:52:061 - kkd ich lass lieber die 1/4 erst im nächsten part anfangen

[Inner Oni]
00:29:727 (217,218,219,220,221) - ja genau xD ich find der part passt irgendwie richtig gut und fühlt sich auch beim spielen normal an... durch die SV sieht es auch nicht schlecht aus
01:32:775 (698,699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709) - d d kkkkkkd ich behalte lieber den konsistenten drumbeat
01:38:204 (752,754) - ctrl+g hört sich so interessanter an und macht auch mehr spaß beim spielen imo
01:45:061 - k ich lass den lieber leer, hab das so bewusst überlegt ^^
01:49:632 - ^ ^
01:52:061 - kkd ich lass die 1/4 lieber erst im krassen part anfangen
02:00:775 (926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - Der Stream sollte eigentlich schon bei (926) aufhören, danach kommt nur noch die ausklingende Gitarre. der übergang in den nächsten part verläuft so glatter imo
02:19:704 (1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089,1090) - Vielleicht lieber 1/2 hier? Das würde nen besseren Kontrast zum Teil vorher und nachher geben (der auch in der Musik ist). Außerdem sind da nicht wirklich 1/4 zu hören. ich lass lieber die 1/4 ausklingen

Insgesamt gutes Mapset, viel Glück beim Ranken!

Jo, thx für's modden!

IControl

473 posts

Joined January 2013

IControl 2016-03-11T21:12:53+00:00

iControl's Mod

General

00:48:204 - move green timing point to here make sure other timing points are snapped 2

100% volume sounds to loud because the notes are louder then the song. Try 80 or 85% for kai time and 70 or 75 for main rift, slow down parts are fine

disable widescreen support and enable count down in song setup , design for all diff

Kantan

00:57:918 (38) - move to 00:57:775 -
00:58:204 (39) - remove Contrary to popular belief not all of kantan has to be on white lines. Also this pattern doesn't match up with the guitar or vocals

01:01:918 (45) - k
01:02:347 - add k ^

01:33:347 (12) - remove doesn't sound that important since your ignoring all the other parts here.

01:33:918 (12) - D? up 2 you

02:12:204 (66,67,68) - remap this part if you agreed with my other point

02:29:918 (100) - move this to 02:30:204 - This part sounds more important

futsuu

00:30:489 (2) - remove
00:35:061 (10) - remove this is to let new players have more of a break

00:40:489 (20,21) - ctrl g sounds lower than higher

00:41:061 (22,23) - move to 00:40:915 - sounds off beat. If you agree change the rest of them

00:39:632 (18) - remove
00:44:204 (29) - remove
00:46:489 (34) - remove to give new players a break again

00:59:918 (62,63) -ctrl g
01:04:489 (75,76) -ctrl g Sounds higher than lower

01:07:775 (82,83,84) - remove
01:10:347 (86,87) - remove
01:12:632 (90,91) - remove
01:15:061 (96) - remove This is all the give the new players more breaks. Keep in mind this is a very fast song for new players so it would be harder to single tap certain points

01:32:918 (15,16,17) - remove These notes are not that important again

01:34:204 (16,17) - remove
01:36:775 (21,22) - remove
01:39:061 (26,27) - remove
01:41:347 (31,32) - remove
01:42:204 (32,33) - ctrl g
01:42:918 (35) - remove
01:43:061 (35) - change to slider to match vocals? ^

01:44:632 (37) - remove
01:46:918 (40) - remove
01:46:489 (39) - move to 01:46:204 -
01:48:775 (42) - move to 01:48:489 -
01:49:204 (43) - remove I would keep this part the same as your kantan. It might be risky adding to many notes for this diff

02:11:632 (94) - The final kai time part(s) sound to hard for futsuu. Try re mapping them as you did with the other sections with 1/1's or 1/2/s only. Not sure about 1/3's tho

Nwolf's Muzukashii

nice muzu weff

01:28:918 (13) - move to 01:29:061 - ? up 2 you

Oni

Nice very well cooked

Inner Oni

Nice variety streams they are very fun to play and well mapped

02:00:489 (922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - sounds over mapped try
02:00:847 (927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - remove add slider

02:19:704 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - would break down this part

02:35:989 - add d? I feel a triple sounds weird here
02:38:275 - ^

02:31:275 - add d
02:31:704 - add d For constancy with other patterns used in this section

02:42:704 (424) -remove
02:43:132 (428) - remove
02:44:989 (450) - remove
02:45:418 (454) - remove ^

Good luck with ranked

wasonz

714 posts

Joined July 2013

wasonz 2016-03-12T14:28:53+00:00

Don't give kd yet. I'll mod your map again next time.

Inner Oni

00:01:347 - cuz this note is a drum and very strong 00:01:489 - remove this note. pass guitar sound and let the first note emphasis drum fully

dkdkdk
sound cool to me and fit vocal, drum, guitar better.
for 00:02:204 -
and 00:04:489 -

kkdkdk
00:06:775 -

this over mapped feel too much to cover song i suggest to remove
00:10:704 -
00:12:989 -
00:15:275 -
00:17:561 -
00:19:847 -
00:22:132 -
00:24:418 -
00:26:704 -

00:15:061 - D look better
cuz ddk d D is very good pattern <3
same as 00:19:632 - ^
00:24:204 - ^

00:28:775 - remove finish this note is not loud as much as 00:26:489 - , 00:24:204 - ,00:21:918 - blah~

00:28:966 - this sound is very unique i suggest to use mono k to cover it.

00:29:727 - better remove 1/6 ? idk

00:30:204 - nerf mod. for this part i only suggest to remove a note since i'm feel notes shouldn't be this dense
00:30:632 - remove
00:32:347 - remove
00:34:632 - remove
00:36:204 - remove
00:37:489 - remove

00:47:204 -

00:55:489 - you can add k here. look cool imo

01:32:775 - remove finish
01:32:918 - remove cuz no sound here
01:33:132 - add d drummu

01:45:061 - k drum + interesting "o"
01:47:489 - ^
01:48:632 - ^ "ha"
01:49:632 - ^ ha
01:50:918 - ^ a

01:53:989 - i think this place can add d very good place to overmap

02:00:775 - it should be end here. so
02:00:847 - re
02:00:918 - move
02:00:989 - lah :v

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Chromoxx 2016-03-12T15:10:14+00:00

IControl wrote:
iControl's Mod

General
00:48:204 - move green timing point to here make sure other timing points are snapped 2 it's snapped to the blue tick, fixed the one double timing point tho

100% volume sounds to loud because the notes are louder then the song. Try 80 or 85% for kai time and 70 or 75 for main rift, slow down parts are fine i think 100% is fine for the kiai

disable widescreen support and enable count down in song setup , design for all diff yep

Kantan
00:57:918 (38) - move to 00:57:775 - putting it on the red tick would make it unneccesarily hard, would also balloon the SR, i'm leaving that rythm to the futsuu
00:58:204 (39) - remove Contrary to popular belief not all of kantan has to be on white lines. Also this pattern doesn't match up with the guitar or vocals i wanna keep that pattern for consistency

01:01:918 (45) - k i have the pitch change to d there for better emphasis
01:02:347 - add k ^ same as before

01:33:347 (12) - remove doesn't sound that important since your ignoring all the other parts here. keeping it for better flow and buildup

01:33:918 (12) - D? up 2 you yep, nice catch

02:12:204 (66,67,68) - remap this part if you agreed with my other point see above xD

02:29:918 (100) - move this to 02:30:204 - This part sounds more important i think the point where it is at is more important since that's where it transitions into the next part

futsuu
00:30:489 (2) - remove leaving because of vocals
00:35:061 (10) - remove this is to let new players have more of a break this is a futsuu and there is a 1/4 break really soon after that

00:40:489 (20,21) - ctrl g sounds lower than higher changed to kk

00:41:061 (22,23) - move to 00:40:915 - sounds off beat. If you agree change the rest of them yeah, i kept it this way though to start off with simplet patterns and escalate the difficulty later on

00:39:632 (18) - remove
00:44:204 (29) - remove
00:46:489 (34) - remove to give new players a break again this is a futsuu and this part isn't even that dense, so no

00:59:918 (62,63) -ctrl g
01:04:489 (75,76) -ctrl g Sounds higher than lower pitch changes are on the last note for better emphasis

01:07:775 (82,83,84) - remove
01:10:347 (86,87) - remove
01:12:632 (90,91) - remove
01:15:061 (96) - remove This is all the give the new players more breaks. Keep in mind this is a very fast song for new players so it would be harder to single tap certain points there are plenty 2/1 breaks etc. so it isn't that intense, again this is a futsuu and doesnt need as many breaks as a kantan

01:32:918 (15,16,17) - remove These notes are not that important again they make for a good transition and are prominent vocals

01:34:204 (16,17) - remove
01:36:775 (21,22) - remove
01:39:061 (26,27) - remove
01:41:347 (31,32) - remove there are already long enough breaks inbetween, again... this is a futsuu, not a kantan
01:42:204 (32,33) - ctrl g pitch seems to go up imo
01:42:918 (35) - remove i'll keep that part for better exit into the next section
01:43:061 (35) - change to slider to match vocals? ^ i think a break is appropriate here

01:44:632 (37) - remove this is fine and fits the spread
01:46:918 (40) - remove ^
01:46:489 (39) - move to 01:46:204 -
01:48:775 (42) - move to 01:48:489 - sounds fine to me in general
01:49:204 (43) - remove I would keep this part the same as your kantan. It might be risky adding to many notes for this diff it should spread fine between kantan and muzu, keeping it the same as the kantan wouldn't really be good tbh

02:11:632 (94) - The final kai time part(s) sound to hard for futsuu. Try re mapping them as you did with the other sections with 1/1's or 1/2/s only. Not sure about 1/3's tho it spreads well with the muzukashii and it's mapped harder than the other kiai because it's a lot more intense in general

Nwolf's Muzukashii
nice muzu weff

01:28:918 (13) - move to 01:29:061 - ? up 2 you

Oni
Nice very well cooked thx

Inner Oni
Nice variety streams they are very fun to play and well mapped tyvm

02:00:489 (922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - sounds over mapped try
02:00:847 (927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - remove add slider i like to keep the stream for a smooth transition into the next part

02:19:704 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - would break down this part heard this twice now, but i think it sounds smoother than whatever else i would do there if i listen to it in the editor, i also kinda like the effect of the music going quiet but the stream still going on until that point, but idk... i'll think of something for if this get's brought up again

02:35:989 - add d? I feel a triple sounds weird here
02:38:275 - ^ the triplets are for short breaks inbetween streams to differentiate better

02:31:275 - add d
02:31:704 - add d For constancy with other patterns used in this section the start of that part is slightly less dense to get into it easier

02:42:704 (424) -remove
02:43:132 (428) - remove
02:44:989 (450) - remove
02:45:418 (454) - remove ^ i feel like this plays well and also sounds fine tbh

Good luck with ranked thx for modding

Thx again

mintong89

3,698 posts

Joined July 2011

mintong89 2016-03-14T11:32:03+00:00

Hello so mod as your request.

[General]
You need to remove those unneeded green line at some diff as they are isn't used.

[Inner Oni]

00:02:204 (6) - Should be k? the vocal tone at here is same as 00:01:918 (5) - here.
00:03:918 (16) - Same as above.
00:04:632 (20,21) - Swap? Same as above.
00:48:347 (375) - Delete this note? I feel it should have a break because the part is too long. Beside you can emphasize the cymbal at before too.
00:56:204 - => 00:56:775 - Make some variation by add some k to it? ddddddddddk sound too bland in my option.
01:05:489 (512) - Same as above-above. The chorus part is too long and it should have a break, so I think delete this note might be helpful.
01:12:632 (584,585,586) - kkd here? ddd seems cannot represent "oh-oh-oh" part enough in my option, so I guess kkd can be better here.
01:17:489 (622,623) - Since both tone are not same, but I guess you wanna do some variation compare to previous part. So how about k d? Sound better imo.
01:19:775 (632,633) - ^, and the rest of the similar pattern.
01:28:632 (676) - k here, since the vocal tone is increase but not decease.
01:32:918 (698) - & 01:33:489 (703) - k these both to represent the scream of the vocal? (it does make it more harder, too.)
01:34:632 (714,715) - Swap there both? If you hear carefully the tone of first note is higher than second note.
01:45:061 - Maybe you should add a note as the vocal at here is quite noticeable.
01:49:632 - Same as above.
01:50:918 - Same.
01:52:061 - + 01:52:132 - Should have note because the drum is can be hear at here.
02:00:489 - => 02:01:347 - Not sure this note stream is fine or not because the song didn't have it. So I think you should remove it.
02:01:489 (934) - Same, should be remove because the part is too long and should have a break.
02:13:489 (1014,1015,1016) - kkd here? For variation and not same as previous note stream.
02:17:847 (1061) - Move this to 02:17:704 - here so fit better to vocal?
02:19:632 - => 02:20:204 - Same. These should remove since the song is totally blank beside the vocal, and the vocal doesn't have full 1/4 too.
02:39:204 (1314,1315) - + 02:39:418 (1317) - Delete these three note to have a break on it.

[Oni]

00:11:632 - => 00:12:204 - It's really weird to have such note rhythm at here because the song generally just bland. I would rather just have 1/4 + 1/2 note to it. (Apply to same rest of the rhythm.)
00:43:204 (81,82,83) - How about change to k d k at here? For variation.
00:56:204 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - These should be more easier to Inner Oni lol by reduce some note to it.
01:01:918 (191) - Big note at here seems unnecessary because there's no drum cymbal or really-loud sound that you need to emphasis it.
01:36:061 (367) - k here? For variation.
01:38:061 (381,382,383) - k d k, the reason is same as above.
01:43:061 (416) - D here? to represent drum cymbal and that "sa" sound?
01:54:204 - Add a note? There's a noticeable vocal at here.
02:09:347 (536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544) - Same. Should reduce some note because it's just same as Inner Oni and it's weird lol.

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

Can't mod this diff since mapping style is too different to me lol
But generally it's fit to song, so it's fine!

[Futsuu]

00:11:347 (15) - This note seems unneeded? Other similar part doesn't have this note.
00:24:204 (39) - Should be k because the tone is higher than previous note.
00:39:061 (19) - D here? to represent drum cymbal?
00:48:204 (42) - Same as above.

Actually I want to suggest you to reduce some note at the last part of chorus or other because the star rating between Kantan-Futsuu and Futsuu-Muzukashii is too large, so reduce might be helpful on it.

[Kantan]

00:28:775 (1,1) - Should delete the spinner and change to note because the spinner is too small that the Kantan player can't really be notice a note will coming really later on it.

The map generally is fun to play.

Good luck!

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-03-14T20:02:02+00:00

oh hei!

>General
* spread on Muzu and Oni seems to bit far, try to adding note to be stream on muzu?

>Inner Oni
* 00:01:489 - delete? since you just put 3plet 00:03:918 - 00:06:204 - 00:08:489 -
* 00:14:347 - I think it different with 00:14:132 - this, maybe you can make kd dk, 00:14:132 - you can get nice emphasize this with don and 00:14:347 - and this kat, also 00:14:489 - this snare drum should to be kat. 00:14:061 (89,90,91,92,93) - try listen on here after you applied that ( 00:18:632 - 00:23:204 - 00:27:775 - same sounds you should make consistent if you applied and that kat for snare )
* 00:28:775 - I think is overemphasize with finisher, but okay I hear that deeply drum sounds. maybe you wanna 00:28:632 - change this kat for drum and contrast with that finisher?
* 00:30:204 (222,223,224) - hitori jaa~ maybe kdk? it fit with updownup pitch and for 00:30:489 - fitting this snare drum
* 00:48:204 - where rest section? 00:48:347 - 00:49:489 - 00:50:632 - 00:51:775 - 00:52:918 - 00:54:061 - this maybe you wanna bcus its fit with stop-start vocal, and 00:53:204 - 00:54:489 (412) - change this to be kat? for variation after 00:52:918 - guitar turnover with rhythm. I think is fine to delete bcus on Oni its not close ( Oni have more like 2plet+1note pattern in there )
* 01:05:489 - delete this to be rest section? end kiai, meet 1/2 rest and started 01:05:632 - again for entering kiai and hitting that nice pattern ww ( 01:05:632 (507,508) - its high flow than 01:05:489 - this.. so yeah nice to be rest )
* 01:17:489 - I think this pattern can more to be 4plet pattern... with that flow + similar like this and 01:20:775 - add don for this?
* 01:32:775 (691,692,693,694,695,696,697) - 01:33:632 (698,699,700,701,702) - I think you deep to follow vocal, so thats why you ignore some drum on here, but would you make that a pattern? since is clearly to hear and can filling for full notes
* 01:48:775 - and I just realise this 4plet for vocal.. so thats why you just make xx max on previously part
* 02:01:489 - same suggestion on 00:48:204 -
* 02:19:704 (1075,1077,1079,1081) - please you did overmap here.. delete? just vocal...

how this diff!? I dont touch some patterns bcus that looks legit and enough for varies, but rest and last suggestion you need to think for consindering

>Oni
* OD: 5.5? so not close with with OD Muzukashii imo ( you up OD on every diff +0.5 except Inner.. 6.5)
* 00:10:132 - delete this? for balance with muzu and inner?
* 1st untill 2nd green tick I think its pattern close with muzu, just differ 1 notes.. I guess. why not make 3plet or 2plet for more filling on every pattern?
* 00:38:989 - same previously suggestion
* 00:56:418 (152,156) - delete? for as Oni I think is needed for friendly to play imo, but okay that really really clear to hear to be full notes
* 01:32:775 - like Inner Oni Suggestion for filling note to drum, and 01:33:847 - delete this?
* 02:09:347 - yea this really clearly to hear

nice Oni.. but yeah.. thats long donwithlastkat

>Nwolf's Muzukashii
Quack, earthquack :U hellow :3
* 00:56:418 - add kat here? bcus Oni is long stream
* 02:09:561 - same above.. but yep I think is fine since its high bpm

that pattern looks nice, overall like conect with music or vocal? lol but yeah muzu just need 1/2 patterns

>Futsuu
* 01:15:918 - nice rest part
* 02:08:775 - d kkk 1/1? I think you need make consistent like previous part, so easir to play for newbie
* 02:48:061 - remove this? I think futsuu like just need xx x pattern.. and that nice emphasize at last

I cant point suggestion on last kiai, bcus its really too stronk pattern, esspecially 3plet pattern. you should consindering that to more better for newbie since its high bpm

>Kantan
* 01:15:918 - nice res-
* 02:08:775 - make consistent with previous part?

Simple kantan ~~with spam kkd~~ and coloring is consistent

Just it, however.. I still cant ez pass on Inner cuz bpm or my rsi.. rip
GLUCK!

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Chromoxx 2016-03-16T18:35:08+00:00

[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:
Don't give kd yet. I'll mod your map again next time.

Inner Oni

00:01:347 - cuz this note is a drum and very strong 00:01:489 - remove this note. pass guitar sound and let the first note emphasis drum fully changed :3

dkdkdk
sound cool to me and fit vocal, drum, guitar better. i'm not mapping to the vocals here and i like it more the way it is
for 00:02:204 -
and 00:04:489 -

kkdkdk
00:06:775 - it's good as it is imo

this over mapped feel too much to cover song i suggest to remove i personally like the rythm here and think it's ok since this part is pretty intense
00:10:704 -
00:12:989 -
00:15:275 -
00:17:561 -
00:19:847 -
00:22:132 -
00:24:418 -
00:26:704 -

00:15:061 - D look better it's K because of the high sound
cuz ddk d D is very good pattern <3
same as 00:19:632 - ^
00:24:204 - ^

00:28:775 - remove finish this note is not loud as much as 00:26:489 - , 00:24:204 - ,00:21:918 - blah~ the finisher is here to emphasize the end of the intense part

00:28:966 - this sound is very unique i suggest to use mono k to cover it. it's a pretty low pitched sound and it's the same pitch as the other notes there, so i'll keep it

00:29:727 - better remove 1/6 ? idk the 1/6 fits and plays really well here with the SV changes, it's the best way i can think of to emphasize the sound there at this difficulty level and doesn't feel overmapped when playing

00:30:204 - nerf mod. for this part i only suggest to remove a note since i'm feel notes shouldn't be this dense it's denser than the other similar part, because it's louder and you can hear more instruments, so i'd like to keep it
00:30:632 - remove
00:32:347 - remove
00:34:632 - remove
00:36:204 - remove
00:37:489 - remove

00:47:204 - i like to use the stream to transition smoothly into the next part

00:55:489 - you can add k here. look cool imo the 1/1 notes build better suspense imo

01:32:775 - remove finish the finisher is there because of the strong vocal and to mark the start of a new intense part
01:32:918 - remove cuz no sound here there is a vocal there
01:33:132 - add d drummu it flows better into the kkkkd as it is

01:45:061 - k drum + interesting "o" i like to keep it as it is to have this part slightly more calm
01:47:489 - ^
01:48:632 - ^ "ha"
01:49:632 - ^ ha
01:50:918 - ^ a

01:53:989 - i think this place can add d very good place to overmap the 2 triplets flow better there imo

02:00:775 - it should be end here. so the stream is here to transition into the other part
02:00:847 - re
02:00:918 - move
02:00:989 - lah :v

thx for modding :3

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-03-16T18:38:42+00:00

hi I exist

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Chromoxx 2016-03-16T20:25:11+00:00

mintong89 wrote:
Hello so mod as your request.

[General]
You need to remove those unneeded green line at some diff as they are isn't used. i'll look into that later
[Inner Oni]

00:02:204 (6) - Should be k? the vocal tone at here is same as 00:01:918 (5) - here. i'm mapping a drum beat here, this isn't entirely to the vocals
00:03:918 (16) - Same as above. ^
00:04:632 (20,21) - Swap? Same as above. ^
00:48:347 (375) - Delete this note? I feel it should have a break because the part is too long. Beside you can emphasize the cymbal at before too. the stream transitions into a more smooth 1/2 part and taking this note away would disrupt the smooth transition imo
00:56:204 - => 00:56:775 - Make some variation by add some k to it? ddddddddddk sound too bland in my option. this is mapped purely to the drum beat, so it's fine i guess
01:05:489 (512) - Same as above-above. The chorus part is too long and it should have a break, so I think delete this note might be helpful. it's an inner oni and i'm focused on keeping a consistent drum beat here, so i think it's ok
01:12:632 (584,585,586) - kkd here? ddd seems cannot represent "oh-oh-oh" part enough in my option, so I guess kkd can be better here. the k on the triplet before is a higher pitch imo, so it's fine
01:17:489 (622,623) - Since both tone are not same, but I guess you wanna do some variation compare to previous part. So how about k d? Sound better imo. they are both pretty lowkey sounds, so adding pitch changes here would overemphasize imo
01:19:775 (632,633) - ^, and the rest of the similar pattern. ^
01:28:632 (676) - k here, since the vocal tone is increase but not decease. the "ha" sounds a bit lower to me so i added a d, it also meshes better with the drumbeat imo
01:32:918 (698) - & 01:33:489 (703) - k these both to represent the scream of the vocal? (it does make it more harder, too.) this is also part of the consistent drumbeat so i'd like to keep it
01:34:632 (714,715) - Swap there both? If you hear carefully the tone of first note is higher than second note. the second sound may be a slightly lower pitch but it's a sharper sound and it keeps consistency with the drumbeat i created, so i'll keep it
01:45:061 - Maybe you should add a note as the vocal at here is quite noticeable. only following the more distinct vocals here to leave a clearer emphasis
01:49:632 - Same as above. ^
01:50:918 - Same. ^
01:52:061 - + 01:52:132 - Should have note because the drum is can be hear at here. added the first one, a triplet wouldn't make such a smooth transition
02:00:489 - => 02:01:347 - Not sure this note stream is fine or not because the song didn't have it. So I think you should remove it. the stream is to make a transition into the next part, i used it in the parts before too
02:01:489 (934) - Same, should be remove because the part is too long and should have a break. same as in the part before, there isn't really a break neccesary in innner oni
02:13:489 (1014,1015,1016) - kkd here? For variation and not same as previous note stream. i think it's ok and keeps a more consistent beat
02:17:847 (1061) - Move this to 02:17:704 - here so fit better to vocal? i'll keep the consistent drum beat here
02:19:632 - => 02:20:204 - Same. These should remove since the song is totally blank beside the vocal, and the vocal doesn't have full 1/4 too. since this isn't the first or second time i hear this i'll change it... i think the stream was ok while playing but it's also ok without
02:39:204 (1314,1315) - + 02:39:418 (1317) - Delete these three note to have a break on it. i think the streams are fine here, since this is the climax of the map
[Oni]

00:11:632 - => 00:12:204 - It's really weird to have such note rhythm at here because the song generally just bland. I would rather just have 1/4 + 1/2 note to it. (Apply to same rest of the rhythm.) i'll change this up a bit
00:43:204 (81,82,83) - How about change to k d k at here? For variation. the vocal goes down from 82 to 83, so i'll keep it
00:56:204 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - These should be more easier to Inner Oni lol by reduce some note to it. deleted the second note, it's a bit easier now
01:01:918 (191) - Big note at here seems unnecessary because there's no drum cymbal or really-loud sound that you need to emphasis it. it emphasizes the strong v ocal
01:36:061 (367) - k here? For variation. made it ddk
01:38:061 (381,382,383) - k d k, the reason is same as above. that one is ok imo, since it represents the pitch very well while sticking to the drum beat
01:43:061 (416) - D here? to represent drum cymbal and that "sa" sound? i'll leave it d to melt better into the next part
01:54:204 - Add a note? There's a noticeable vocal at here. i'm leaving it out, so that it's less dense and it isn't that prominent tbh
02:09:347 (536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544) - Same. Should reduce some note because it's just same as Inner Oni and it's weird lol. did the same as before
[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

Can't mod this diff since mapping style is too different to me lol
But generally it's fit to song, so it's fine!
[Futsuu]

00:11:347 (15) - This note seems unneeded? Other similar part doesn't have this note. added the others instead
00:24:204 (39) - Should be k because the tone is higher than previous note. ok
00:39:061 (19) - D here? to represent drum cymbal? i don't really see the need for a finisher here ;w;
00:48:204 (42) - Same as above. ^

Actually I want to suggest you to reduce some note at the last part of chorus or other because the star rating between Kantan-Futsuu and Futsuu-Muzukashii is too large, so reduce might be helpful on it. i changed a bit (the dkd dkd dkd got nerfed)
[Kantan]

00:28:775 (1,1) - Should delete the spinner and change to note because the spinner is too small that the Kantan player can't really be notice a note will coming really later on it. yup

The map generally is fun to play.
Good luck! thx <3

thx for modding! :3

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Chromoxx 2016-03-16T20:54:15+00:00

Surono wrote:
oh hei!

>General
* spread on Muzu and Oni seems to bit far, try to adding note to be stream on muzu? *summons Nwolf*

>Inner Oni
* 00:01:489 - delete? since you just put 3plet 00:03:918 - 00:06:204 - 00:08:489 - yep, did that already
* 00:14:347 - I think it different with 00:14:132 - this, maybe you can make kd dk, 00:14:132 - you can get nice emphasize this with don and 00:14:347 - and this kat, also 00:14:489 - this snare drum should to be kat. 00:14:061 (89,90,91,92,93) - try listen on here after you applied that ( 00:18:632 - 00:23:204 - 00:27:775 - same sounds you should make consistent if you applied and that kat for snare ) i can't really understand everything but i think it's fine as it is tbh
* 00:28:775 - I think is overemphasize with finisher, but okay I hear that deeply drum sounds. maybe you wanna 00:28:632 - change this kat for drum and contrast with that finisher? the finisher emphasizes the end of that part
* 00:30:204 (222,223,224) - hitori jaa~ maybe kdk? it fit with updownup pitch and for 00:30:489 - fitting this snare drum the pitch goes down in the vocals, hence kkd start
* 00:48:204 - where rest section? 00:48:347 - 00:49:489 - 00:50:632 - 00:51:775 - 00:52:918 - 00:54:061 - this maybe you wanna bcus its fit with stop-start vocal, and 00:53:204 - 00:54:489 (412) - change this to be kat? for variation after 00:52:918 - guitar turnover with rhythm. I think is fine to delete bcus on Oni its not close ( Oni have more like 2plet+1note pattern in there ) it's ok, since it's a slow buildup and the transition goes fine into the 1/2 part from the stream there
* 01:05:489 - delete this to be rest section? end kiai, meet 1/2 rest and started 01:05:632 - again for entering kiai and hitting that nice pattern ww ( 01:05:632 (507,508) - its high flow than 01:05:489 - this.. so yeah nice to be rest ) there is a vocal there, also there is no real need for a rest spot here, since it's the inner oni and it isn't too stamina draining
* 01:17:489 - I think this pattern can more to be 4plet pattern... with that flow + similar like this and 01:20:775 - add don for this? i think the 2plets are fine, any more would be overemphasizing, also this part can be calm as it adds to the buildup
* 01:32:775 (691,692,693,694,695,696,697) - 01:33:632 (698,699,700,701,702) - I think you deep to follow vocal, so thats why you ignore some drum on here, but would you make that a pattern? since is clearly to hear and can filling for full notes i think the drum beat here is quite steady and flows really well imo
* 01:48:775 - and I just realise this 4plet for vocal.. so thats why you just make xx max on previously part because these are more prominent vocals
* 02:01:489 - same suggestion on 00:48:204 - same response ^^
* 02:19:704 (1075,1077,1079,1081) - please you did overmap here.. delete? just vocal... fixed already ^^

how this diff!? I dont touch some patterns bcus that looks legit and enough for varies, but rest and last suggestion you need to think for consindering

>Oni
* OD: 5.5? so not close with with OD Muzukashii imo ( you up OD on every diff +0.5 except Inner.. 6.5) i think leaving OD5 here is fine, since the oni isn't that hard
* 00:10:132 - delete this? for balance with muzu and inner? ok :3
* 1st untill 2nd green tick I think its pattern close with muzu, just differ 1 notes.. I guess. why not make 3plet or 2plet for more filling on every pattern? already changed something there
* 00:38:989 - same previously suggestion deleted a different note to leave kkd at the end
* 00:56:418 (152,156) - delete? for as Oni I think is needed for friendly to play imo, but okay that really really clear to hear to be full notes yeah, deleted
* 01:32:775 - like Inner Oni Suggestion for filling note to drum, and 01:33:847 - delete this? deleted the other note
* 02:09:347 - yea this really clearly to hear did the same as before

nice Oni.. but yeah.. thats long donwithlastkat

>Nwolf's Muzukashii
Quack, earthquack :U hellow :3
* 00:56:418 - add kat here? bcus Oni is long stream
* 02:09:561 - same above.. but yep I think is fine since its high bpm

that pattern looks nice, overall like conect with music or vocal? lol but yeah muzu just need 1/2 patterns

>Futsuu
* 01:15:918 - nice rest part
* 02:08:775 - d kkk 1/1? I think you need make consistent like previous part, so easir to play for newbie it's ok as it is imo
* 02:48:061 - remove this? I think futsuu like just need xx x pattern.. and that nice emphasize at last it's ok since it's the last harder pattern and adds a nice finishing touch

I cant point suggestion on last kiai, bcus its really too stronk pattern, esspecially 3plet pattern. you should consindering that to more better for newbie since its high bpm changed the dkd dkd dkd thing a bit

>Kantan
* 01:15:918 - nice res-
* 02:08:775 - make consistent with previous part? ?

Simple kantan ~~with spam kkd~~ and coloring is consistent

Just it, however.. I still cant ez pass on Inner cuz bpm or my rsi.. rip
GLUCK!

thx for modding! ´L_´

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-03-17T18:10:59+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
hi I exist

hi I started.

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-03-25T21:25:54+00:00

DarkVortex wrote:
[Muzukashii]
00:47:918 - d k
01:15:061 - k passt nicht zur map
01:33:061 (25,26,27) - k k k d würde hier gut passen will es hier etwas simpler halten, folge außerdem den vocals
02:00:775 (42) - k um den letzten Beat hervorzuheben ye
02:20:204 - k hab die andere note stattdessen gelöscht
02:21:632 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - das hier würde besser passen imo ye
SPOILER
02:25:204 (27) - löschen wollte hier mehr haben als im kiai davor
02:26:204 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - siehe oben same

IControl wrote:
Nwolf's Muzukashii
nice muzu weff c:

01:28:918 (13) - move to 01:29:061 - ? up 2 you ye

Oni
Nice very well cooked

idk why mintong shouldn't be able to mod my diff but ok

Surono wrote:
>Nwolf's Muzukashii
Quack, earthquack :U hellow :3
* 00:56:418 - add kat here? bcus Oni is long stream Oni is just triplets now~

that pattern looks nice, overall like conect with music or vocal? lol but yeah muzu just need 1/2 patterns

thanks everybody!

Moozoo

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newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-04-03T05:15:44+00:00

Chromoxx PP Santa

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-04-10T02:13:43+00:00

Hey, sorry for being late.

General

01:05:347 - I felt like there was too much going on in the instrumental here to allow for the kiai time to stop; 02:19:489 is much more suitable for the kiai time to be interrupted. Even if you do keep it, you should consider stopping the kiai time at 01:05:204. This is the same "ma" syllable in the "shimaetara (dai)seikou" that you hear in the part.

02:29:918 - Speaking of kiai times, I felt you could interrupt the kiai here and restart it at 02:30:204 to really emphasize the sound there.

Kantan

00:12:489 (12,13) - It's a good idea to note that changing colours in 1/1 this early is quite difficult. Since you used k k at 00:21:632 (24,25) , it'd make more sense to start off the section with the unchanging 1/1 patterns, while for the second half you could make it slightly harder by using changing colours for the 1/1.

00:36:775 (9) - I personally liked how you had it as a k at 00:32:204 (3).

00:40:204 (14,15,16,17,18) - Try thinking of some other colour pattern than just ks. It'll flow better imo.

00:55:632 (35,36) - Since this section is one of the opportunities where you can closely match to the vocals, it's possible to move 00:55:632 (35) a beat forward then Ctrl + G this pair of hits for a vocal pitch match. Or create something similar to 02:09:061 (64,65).

01:25:918 (2) - Change to k? Just thought it sounded better.

01:28:204 (5) - ^ Coupled with the suggestion above, it'd make a really nice d k repetition for the section imo.

02:12:204 (67) - You can move this to 02:12:061 if you want to create a challenge for the second kiai.

02:27:347 (96,97,98,99,100) - If you could somehow match to the "mou mou mou" I think it'd sound awesome.

02:48:204 (131) - Add a finisher? You had a finisher on 01:15:632 (67). Same with the other diffs.

Futsuu

00:33:918 (8,9,10) - Maybe using k k d twice in a row isn't a good idea. Doesn't really matter tho.

00:37:918 (16,17,18,19) - With the 4/1 break before this, this has no difficulty curve with the Kantan. Please make it more difficult in some way.

00:41:061 (24,25) - Nothing wrong with this, but I felt it'd be slightly confusing to players since you matched the vocals at 00:40:204 (21,22,23) , which are part of the same line. Also, having a 1.5/1 rhythm right after a 1/2 rhythm is pretty difficult. You should consider moving 00:41:061 (24,25) 1/2 a beat earlier. Same thing for similar areas.

00:55:632 (55) - Change to d? Sounded better imo in contrast to 00:56:204 (56,57,58).

00:58:204 (61,62,63) - So when I first modded this, I was ok with it but now I think it could be toned down a bit by doing something like this instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4898818
It just reduces the amount of 1.5/1 there is, and eliminates the 1/2 in the middle of those two 1.5/1 rhythms.

01:02:775 (75,76,77) - ^

01:07:775 (88) - Delete? You didn't have a hit at 01:10:061 and at other similar places.

01:41:918 (42) - Changing to k would match the vocal pitch better imo.

01:51:918 - I don't think it'd be bad to add a hit here. Also for a slight difficulty curve with the Kantan.

02:20:775 - Also looking back, the second kiai is pretty difficult. Try making deletions wherever possible. Not very many, or else it'd be too easy now. For example, you could delete 02:15:347 (122,123) since you didn't have hits at 02:24:489. Another section with possible deletions is the section from 02:39:061 to the end of the kiai. Again, don't delete too much.

Nwolf's Muzukashii

00:23:918 (50,51) - Ctrl + G? I think it'd make for a good pattern variety and it'd be consistent with the way you made variety at 00:13:632 (12,13).

00:43:775 - I think it'd be possible to add a hit here. There's vocals, and you've broken the 1/1 and 1/2 rhythm that you've created nicely with the use of 1.5/1 imo. Same at 01:40:918.

00:54:775 (18,19) - I personally liked how you had it at 00:50:204 (6,7). js

01:53:061 (5) - Is there any specific reason to have this as a d when all the other 1/1 hits right after a 1/2 patterns are ks? I'd personally change it to be consistent.

02:31:204 - I realize that the finishers are part of the way you mapped this, but places like 02:47:204 (93,94,95) can get really confusing to Muzukashii level players imo. Perhaps you should try to delete hits so that people have more than a 1/2 gap to hit the finishers properly or react to the upcoming 1/2 rhythm after the series of finishers.

02:52:061 (7,8) - I'd personally delete these hits if you didn't have them previously.

Oni

00:09:561 (41) - Moving to 00:09:418 would be better structurally since the triplet at 00:09:918 (44,45,46) started at the start of the instrumental 1/4 sounds, not the end like this triplet. If you get what I mean.

00:10:489 - Nothing really wrong with this section, but I felt you could spice it up a bit more. Right now, it's just 1/2 rhythms, which is quite a contrast to the ending section's difficulty and rhythm. Possibilities could be something like adding 1/4 once in a while or using 3/4.

00:38:418 (45) - Move to 00:38:132. The instrumentals will be more accurately matched.

00:40:204 (60) - You can change this to k if you want more variety.

01:10:204 (244,245,246,247) - You're breaking your k usage pattern here for the section from 01:06:489 , and it kinda stood out to me how it suddenly switched to the vocals from that pattern. I liked the vocal matching, so it's possible to change all the triplets in the section to kkd to keep the structure while matching to the vocals a bit more.

01:40:489 (394,395) - Should be consistent with 01:35:918 (362,363) or vice versa.

02:19:560 (600,601) - Delete? You've gone far enough as to stop the kiai to focus on the fact that there's no instrumentals here. If you have hits that aren't matched to the vocals I thought it ruined the emphasis created by the absence of the kiai.

02:48:204 - Add more hits at the end; it's about the same difficulty as the Futsuu.

Inner Oni

00:37:775 (269,270,271) - You don't really need this triplet imo. I think starting the 1/4 patterns on where the instrumentals are clearly heard at 00:38:061 would be good.

01:10:204 (558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566) - Perhaps you should create some more variety out of this.

01:33:632 (704,705,706,707) - Err, delete? There's no instrumental sounds here at all. You're also missing a hit at 01:33:132 I think.

02:00:775 (926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - I personally didn't feel like this was right place to overmap.

02:41:775 (1341,1342,1343) - Playing this was a nice break, but I personally didn't like the sound of it.

Not much to say on this diff, since most of stuff is subjective. As long as the overmap isn't super unreasonable, I think it'd be fine.

Good luck~

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-04-10T09:21:14+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
Nwolf's Muzukashii

00:23:918 (50,51) - Ctrl + G? I think it'd make for a good pattern variety and it'd be consistent with the way you made variety at 00:13:632 (12,13). yup

00:43:775 - I think it'd be possible to add a hit here. There's vocals, and you've broken the 1/1 and 1/2 rhythm that you've created nicely with the use of 1.5/1 imo. Same at 01:40:918. there are no vocals and it even adds stuff to the rhythm imo, makes you keep more attention to the map

00:54:775 (18,19) - I personally liked how you had it at 00:50:204 (6,7). js changed it differently, building up on previous pattern so 00:54:775 (18,19) - these stay k d. I want that don :c

01:53:061 (5) - Is there any specific reason to have this as a d when all the other 1/1 hits right after a 1/2 patterns are ks? I'd personally change it to be consistent. changed

02:31:204 - I realize that the finishers are part of the way you mapped this, but places like 02:47:204 (93,94,95) can get really confusing to Muzukashii level players imo. Perhaps you should try to delete hits so that people have more than a 1/2 gap to hit the finishers properly or react to the upcoming 1/2 rhythm after the series of finishers. there's a lot more 1/2 finishers in the map, just not on red ticks. I don't feel well removing finishers or even notes as it will hurt the spread even more

02:52:061 (7,8) - I'd personally delete these hits if you didn't have them previously. moved instead

thanks!

Muzukashii

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Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2016-04-10T11:37:12+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
Hey, sorry for being late. np bro

General

01:05:347 - I felt like there was too much going on in the instrumental here to allow for the kiai time to stop; 02:19:489 is much more suitable for the kiai time to be interrupted. Even if you do keep it, you should consider stopping the kiai time at 01:05:204. This is the same "ma" syllable in the "shimaetara (dai)seikou" that you hear in the part. removed the kiai stop there

02:29:918 - Speaking of kiai times, I felt you could interrupt the kiai here and restart it at 02:30:204 to really emphasize the sound there. well, the vocals and music are still strong there, so i don't really know about stopping the kiai there

Kantan

00:12:489 (12,13) - It's a good idea to note that changing colours in 1/1 this early is quite difficult. Since you used k k at 00:21:632 (24,25) , it'd make more sense to start off the section with the unchanging 1/1 patterns, while for the second half you could make it slightly harder by using changing colours for the 1/1. ok, changing that

00:36:775 (9) - I personally liked how you had it as a k at 00:32:204 (3). i'll keep this as a d for some variety

00:40:204 (14,15,16,17,18) - Try thinking of some other colour pattern than just ks. It'll flow better imo. changed to k ddk

00:55:632 (35,36) - Since this section is one of the opportunities where you can closely match to the vocals, it's possible to move 00:55:632 (35) a beat forward then Ctrl + G this pair of hits for a vocal pitch match. Or create something similar to 02:09:061 (64,65). yep made it d kk

01:25:918 (2) - Change to k? Just thought it sounded better. yep

01:28:204 (5) - ^ Coupled with the suggestion above, it'd make a really nice d k repetition for the section imo. changed to d

02:12:204 (67) - You can move this to 02:12:061 if you want to create a challenge for the second kiai. i wanna keep stuff on clean beats here, since its relatively high bpm and the futsuu introduces 3/2 rythms

02:27:347 (96,97,98,99,100) - If you could somehow match to the "mou mou mou" I think it'd sound awesome. idk, i think it matches it fine as it is, the 3 triplets in a row put pretty good emphasis on there

02:48:204 (131) - Add a finisher? You had a finisher on 01:15:632 (67). Same with the other diffs. there is no finisher here, because this leads into a really calm part, whereas the other spot leads into a part that has a lot more going on instrumentally

Futsuu

00:33:918 (8,9,10) - Maybe using k k d twice in a row isn't a good idea. Doesn't really matter tho. changed the first one to ddk

00:37:918 (16,17,18,19) - With the 4/1 break before this, this has no difficulty curve with the Kantan. Please make it more difficult in some way. yep

00:41:061 (24,25) - Nothing wrong with this, but I felt it'd be slightly confusing to players since you matched the vocals at 00:40:204 (21,22,23) , which are part of the same line. Also, having a 1.5/1 rhythm right after a 1/2 rhythm is pretty difficult. You should consider moving 00:41:061 (24,25) 1/2 a beat earlier. Same thing for similar areas. i think the current rythm sounds a bit calmer and spreads the notes a bit more, also don't wanna entirely follow the vocals here

00:55:632 (55) - Change to d? Sounded better imo in contrast to 00:56:204 (56,57,58). i think the k spam gives a better build up

00:58:204 (61,62,63) - So when I first modded this, I was ok with it but now I think it could be toned down a bit by doing something like this instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4898818
It just reduces the amount of 1.5/1 there is, and eliminates the 1/2 in the middle of those two 1.5/1 rhythms. the rythm you suggested here is a lot harder because of the doubles, whereas this is still relatively simple to play, so i'll keep it as it is for now

01:02:775 (75,76,77) - ^ ^

01:07:775 (88) - Delete? You didn't have a hit at 01:10:061 and at other similar places. yep

01:41:918 (42) - Changing to k would match the vocal pitch better imo. yep

01:51:918 - I don't think it'd be bad to add a hit here. Also for a slight difficulty curve with the Kantan. yep, nice

02:20:775 - Also looking back, the second kiai is pretty difficult. Try making deletions wherever possible. Not very many, or else it'd be too easy now. For example, you could delete 02:15:347 (122,123) since you didn't have hits at 02:24:489. Another section with possible deletions is the section from 02:39:061 to the end of the kiai. Again, don't delete too much. deleted a few notes, not changing too much here though

Oni

00:09:561 (41) - Moving to 00:09:418 would be better structurally since the triplet at 00:09:918 (44,45,46) started at the start of the instrumental 1/4 sounds, not the end like this triplet. If you get what I mean.moved the other triplet on red tick to the right

00:10:489 - Nothing really wrong with this section, but I felt you could spice it up a bit more. Right now, it's just 1/2 rhythms, which is quite a contrast to the ending section's difficulty and rhythm. Possibilities could be something like adding 1/4 once in a while or using 3/4. well, it already contrasts with 01:15:632 - which is calmer, so i think it's ok to have it like this, put in a little bit of 1/4 tho

00:38:418 (45) - Move to 00:38:132. The instrumentals will be more accurately matched. ok

00:40:204 (60) - You can change this to k if you want more variety. don't wanna use 2 ddk triplets in a row

01:10:204 (244,245,246,247) - You're breaking your k usage pattern here for the section from 01:06:489 , and it kinda stood out to me how it suddenly switched to the vocals from that pattern. I liked the vocal matching, so it's possible to change all the triplets in the section to kkd to keep the structure while matching to the vocals a bit more. idk what you mean tbh, it's relatively consistent. The notes here are ddk kd because unlike the other spots, where the pitch goes up, it stays the same here from 01:10:347 (245) - to 01:10:632 (246) -

01:40:489 (394,395) - Should be consistent with 01:35:918 (362,363) or vice versa. ok

02:19:560 (600,601) - Delete? You've gone far enough as to stop the kiai to focus on the fact that there's no instrumentals here. If you have hits that aren't matched to the vocals I thought it ruined the emphasis created by the absence of the kiai. ok

02:48:204 - Add more hits at the end; it's about the same difficulty as the Futsuu. ok

Inner Oni

00:37:775 (269,270,271) - You don't really need this triplet imo. I think starting the 1/4 patterns on where the instrumentals are clearly heard at 00:38:061 would be good. ok

01:10:204 (558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566) - Perhaps you should create some more variety out of this. well, the first k triplet is a higher pitch than the other triplets before, so i think it's ok to have it like this

01:33:632 (704,705,706,707) - Err, delete? There's no instrumental sounds here at all. You're also missing a hit at 01:33:132 I think. the kkkkd is to transition into the next part and emphasize the start of it EDIT: talked with MMzz about this and changed it up a bit, no longer has the stream there

02:00:775 (926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934) - I personally didn't feel like this was right place to overmap. again, i like to keep those streams to transition smoothy from one part into another EDIT: also talked with MMzz about this one and i think it can stay as it is

02:41:775 (1341,1342,1343) - Playing this was a nice break, but I personally didn't like the sound of it. i think it sounds fine x_x

Not much to say on this diff, since most of stuff is subjective. As long as the overmap isn't super unreasonable, I think it'd be fine.

Good luck~

Thx for modding!

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-04-24T04:32:05+00:00

Hey, did an irc.

irc

2016-04-24 04:17 Chromoxx: yo
2016-04-24 04:18 newyams99: hai
2016-04-24 04:18 Chromoxx: do you have time to talk over streaming heart now?
2016-04-24 04:18 Chromoxx: cos i'm out tomorrow evening
2016-04-24 04:18 newyams99: sure
2016-04-24 04:18 Chromoxx: oh nice
2016-04-24 04:19 newyams99: kk
2016-04-24 04:19 Chromoxx: is there anything you'd still have to say about the lower diffs then?

2016-04-24 04:19 newyams99: um
2016-04-24 04:19 newyams99: wait a sec
2016-04-24 04:19 newyams99: just updated
2016-04-24 04:19 newyams99: and it
2016-04-24 04:19 newyams99: it's being weird
2016-04-24 04:19 Chromoxx: wot

2016-04-24 04:20 newyams99: linked me to this map lol
2016-04-24 04:20 newyams99: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/252483
2016-04-24 04:20 Chromoxx: dafonz XD
2016-04-24 04:20 Chromoxx: yeah i changed the song and my username etc
2016-04-24 04:20 Chromoxx: also warped back time to 2013
2016-04-24 04:21 newyams99: lol xD
2016-04-24 04:21 Chromoxx: did you get it then?
2016-04-24 04:21 newyams99: yeap
2016-04-24 04:21 newyams99: looking at it
2016-04-24 04:21 Chromoxx: cool

2016-04-24 04:23 newyams99: o
2016-04-24 04:23 newyams99: 01:51:918 -
2016-04-24 04:23 newyams99: you can add a hit here
2016-04-24 04:23 Chromoxx: oh yeah
2016-04-24 04:23 Chromoxx: nice
2016-04-24 04:24 newyams99: it'll be the exact same as futsuu
2016-04-24 04:24 newyams99: but meh
2016-04-24 04:24 newyams99: sounds way better that way
2016-04-24 04:24 Chromoxx: k
2016-04-24 04:26 newyams99: 01:01:347 (44,45,46) - d d k would sound better imo
2016-04-24 04:26 newyams99: 46 will match the colour of 00:57:347 (37) -
2016-04-24 04:27 newyams99: and will also be the same with 02:15:632 (73,74,75) -
2016-04-24 04:27 Chromoxx: yeah i changed
2016-04-24 04:28 newyams99: 02:19:347 (80,81) - 81 should be deleted and 80 should be moved to 02:19:489 -
2016-04-24 04:28 newyams99: would feel better with how the kiai ends
2016-04-24 04:28 newyams99: and it's a bit dense here compared to the futsuu but still overall easier
2016-04-24 04:28 Chromoxx: 01:00:775 (43) - changed this to k cos it'll flow better
2016-04-24 04:29 newyams99: 02:15:061 (72) - would be changed too then right?
2016-04-24 04:29 Chromoxx: 80,81 i don't really wanna change
2016-04-24 04:30 Chromoxx: i think the 1/1 rythm suits the rest of the map more here
2016-04-24 04:30 newyams99: sure
2016-04-24 04:30 Chromoxx: yeah 72 also changed
2016-04-24 04:30 newyams99: and I still think that you should have a finisher on 02:48:204 (131) -
2016-04-24 04:30 newyams99: :/
2016-04-24 04:31 Chromoxx: well it's leading into a quiet part at the end
2016-04-24 04:31 Chromoxx: don't really want a finisher there tbh
2016-04-24 04:31 Chromoxx: no big drum clash and it basically flows into the finish part really casually, so i don't really wanna put a finisher
2016-04-24 04:32 newyams99: ok
2016-04-24 04:32 newyams99: moving on to the futsuu then
2016-04-24 04:32 newyams99: 00:25:775 (47) -
2016-04-24 04:33 Chromoxx: yes?
2016-04-24 04:33 newyams99: should be k if you want to keep a pattern going with the k at 00:21:204 (37) -
2016-04-24 04:33 Chromoxx: yeah, sounds better indeed
2016-04-24 04:35 newyams99: 00:38:775 (19) - perhaps move this to 00:38:632 - and add a hit at 00:38:918 -
2016-04-24 04:35 newyams99: I think futsuu players would expect the rhythm to be like that
2016-04-24 04:35 newyams99: rather than switching from vocals to instrumentals
2016-04-24 04:35 newyams99: simply moving 19 works too
2016-04-24 04:36 newyams99: owait
2016-04-24 04:36 newyams99: you did that for the whole next section
2016-04-24 04:36 newyams99: idk then lel
2016-04-24 04:36 Chromoxx: well i moved 19
2016-04-24 04:36 Chromoxx: but tbh if i'd add a hit i'd at it on the white tick where 19 was before
2016-04-24 04:36 newyams99: cool
2016-04-24 04:37 newyams99: that works too
2016-04-24 04:37 Chromoxx: yeah, did that then
2016-04-24 04:37 newyams99: cool
2016-04-24 04:37 newyams99: 00:40:489 (23,24,25,26) - perhaps delete 23
2016-04-24 04:38 newyams99: it focuses a bit too much on the vocals
2016-04-24 04:38 newyams99: and the 1.5/1 gap between 24/25 feels weird
2016-04-24 04:39 Chromoxx: well i think it's ok
2016-04-24 04:39 Chromoxx: the doubles go fine imo and work a bit with the vocals without keeping it too focused on them
2016-04-24 04:40 newyams99: I think deleting 23 would work just as well tho
2016-04-24 04:40 Chromoxx: well 23 is basically present throughout the the entire section
2016-04-24 04:40 newyams99: since 00:40:632 - isn't really matched to the instrumentals I think people can tell it's meant to follow the vocals
2016-04-24 04:40 newyams99: yea
2016-04-24 04:40 Chromoxx: and deleting it would screw up the density
2016-04-24 04:40 newyams99: so
2016-04-24 04:40 newyams99: I was about to suggest something interesting
2016-04-24 04:41 Chromoxx: i'm all ears
2016-04-24 04:41 newyams99: kk
2016-04-24 04:41 newyams99: so along with the deletion of the hit I mentioned you could delete 00:45:061 -
2016-04-24 04:41 newyams99: then
2016-04-24 04:42 newyams99: add a hit at 00:43:204 - to follow the pattern that you newly made at 00:38:347 (18,19,20) - to have a small midpoint diff jump
2016-04-24 04:42 newyams99: then
2016-04-24 04:42 newyams99: adding a hit is possible at 00:47:918 -
2016-04-24 04:42 newyams99: but more optional
2016-04-24 04:43 newyams99: is my suggestion
2016-04-24 04:44 newyams99: I think it'd be cool and structured well enough
2016-04-24 04:45 Chromoxx: well, the intensity of the music doesnt really change in that part
2016-04-24 04:45 Chromoxx: so i think it would be better to keep it the same
2016-04-24 04:45 Chromoxx: it's also not that long
2016-04-24 04:45 newyams99: o the midpoint diff jump
2016-04-24 04:45 newyams99: was just so that players don't get bored
2016-04-24 04:46 newyams99: but if you don't like it just leave it
2016-04-24 04:46 Chromoxx: well i think the density and pattern arrangement shouldn't let them get bored tbh
2016-04-24 04:46 Chromoxx: it's not a really standard pattern and it's colors vary throughout the part
2016-04-24 04:46 newyams99: yea
2016-04-24 04:46 Chromoxx: so i think it's ok
2016-04-24 04:46 newyams99: sure
2016-04-24 04:49 newyams99: 00:59:347 (66) - you could change this to k for consistency with 01:03:918 (79) -
2016-04-24 04:49 newyams99: same at 01:08:775 (90) - for consistency with 01:06:489 (84) -
2016-04-24 04:49 newyams99: 01:13:347 (102) - too
2016-04-24 04:49 newyams99: and I'd change 01:10:632 (95) - to d since there's quite a bit of k's in a row
2016-04-24 04:50 Chromoxx: yep, done all those
2016-04-24 04:50 newyams99: changing 01:35:061 (21,22) - to d d would work to match the pattern you had at 01:39:632 (35,36) -
2016-04-24 04:51 Chromoxx: nah, it's good for variation
2016-04-24 04:51 Chromoxx: also the pitch throughout the vocals in the second one is different, so it's ok to variate here imo
2016-04-24 04:52 newyams99: ok
2016-04-24 04:52 newyams99: just a suggestion cuz it gets pretty hard near the end
2016-04-24 04:52 Chromoxx: 01:35:347 - you can here the "mo" here, which is pretty high pitched, but at 01:39:918 (36) - there's only the "n" and leaving the pitch change to kat at 01:40:061 - emphasizes the "na" more
2016-04-24 04:54 newyams99: I'd personally argue that is more the "u" sound at 01:35:347 - which is small
2016-04-24 04:54 newyams99: but doesn't really matter so keep it
2016-04-24 04:55 newyams99: going back to what I was saying just a bit earlier
2016-04-24 04:55 newyams99: actually nvm
2016-04-24 04:55 Chromoxx: lol
2016-04-24 04:56 newyams99: actually
2016-04-24 04:57 newyams99: nvm my nvm
2016-04-24 04:57 newyams99: just thought that you could replace 02:11:918 (111,112,113,114) - with 02:21:061 (139,140,141,142) -
2016-04-24 04:57 newyams99: just sounded and flowed better
2016-04-24 04:58 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 04:58 Chromoxx: done
2016-04-24 04:58 newyams99: KK
2016-04-24 04:58 newyams99: o
2016-04-24 04:58 newyams99: caps
2016-04-24 04:58 newyams99: dw that's just two k's with finishers
2016-04-24 04:59 Chromoxx: KKK? xD
2016-04-24 04:59 Chromoxx: sounds cool... i always wanted to dress up like a ghost
2016-04-24 04:59 newyams99: lol
2016-04-24 04:59 newyams99: the KKK supports donald drump xD
2016-04-24 05:00 Chromoxx: KFC > KKK tbh
2016-04-24 05:00 Chromoxx: although KFC is meh
2016-04-24 05:00 newyams99: yea
2016-04-24 05:00 newyams99: agree with both
2016-04-24 05:00 Chromoxx: xD
2016-04-24 05:01 newyams99: so from 02:39:061 - has a nice pattern
2016-04-24 05:01 newyams99: but I couldn't really figure out the pattern at 02:29:918 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197) -
2016-04-24 05:02 newyams99: and it was quite hard too with all those 1.5/1 gaps
2016-04-24 05:03 Chromoxx: well, i'm scaling up the density
2016-04-24 05:03 newyams99: wait a sec
2016-04-24 05:03 Chromoxx: so the first part is less dense and as a result it has some more weird spacings
2016-04-24 05:03 Chromoxx: but idk
2016-04-24 05:03 newyams99: lemme see if there's an alternative
2016-04-24 05:04 Chromoxx: ok

2016-04-24 05:04 newyams99: 02:30:347 (172) - you could delete
2016-04-24 05:05 newyams99: to just leave 02:30:204 (171) - with good emphasis on the returning instrumentals
2016-04-24 05:06 Chromoxx: well that would be a bit loose, but i have an idea
2016-04-24 05:06 Chromoxx: 02:31:204 (175) - delete this and add a hit at 02:30:632 -
2016-04-24 05:06 Chromoxx: and then do the same or something similar for the following ones
2016-04-24 05:06 Chromoxx: would make the overall spacing a bit less weird
2016-04-24 05:06 newyams99: yea I was thinking of that
2016-04-24 05:07 Chromoxx: ok i'll do that then
2016-04-24 05:07 newyams99: sounds good
2016-04-24 05:07 newyams99: and you can add a hit at 02:56:632 -
2016-04-24 05:07 newyams99: just sounds weird imo
2016-04-24 05:08 newyams99: moving on to the oni
2016-04-24 05:08 Chromoxx: wait a sec
2016-04-24 05:09 newyams99: I'm just looking ^^
2016-04-24 05:09 Chromoxx: i won't add a hit there cos the last 2 are mapped to the more distinct guitar sounds
2016-04-24 05:09 Chromoxx: and it's sounds fine imo
2016-04-24 05:09 newyams99: ok den
2016-04-24 05:09 newyams99: so in the oni
2016-04-24 05:10 newyams99: I liked the distinct matching of the vocals at 00:04:632 (17,18,19) -
2016-04-24 05:10 newyams99: so perhaps delete 00:02:489 (7) -
2016-04-24 05:10 newyams99: and 00:07:061 (28) -
2016-04-24 05:10 newyams99: idk
2016-04-24 05:10 Chromoxx: ook
2016-04-24 05:11 newyams99: maybe in the inner oni too
2016-04-24 05:11 Chromoxx: i think that's ok for the inner
2016-04-24 05:11 newyams99: but you'd have to delete 00:04:775 (20) - as well
2016-04-24 05:11 newyams99: kk
2016-04-24 05:12 newyams99: so this rhythm at 00:11:632 (54,55,56,57,58,59) -
2016-04-24 05:12 newyams99: is fine
2016-04-24 05:12 newyams99: but you suddenly use ddd and kkk at 00:20:775 (102,103,104,105,106,107) -
2016-04-24 05:13 Chromoxx: well the ddd and kkk were for variation
2016-04-24 05:13 Chromoxx: but i can change it if you want
2016-04-24 05:13 newyams99: then put it closer to the beginning
2016-04-24 05:14 Chromoxx: 00:16:204 - how about starting here then?
2016-04-24 05:14 Chromoxx: one with kkk and the one after with ddd
2016-04-24 05:14 newyams99: well tbh I feel that having them just in a random place wouldn't make sense so maybe have a ddd/kkk appear for every other triplet
2016-04-24 05:15 Chromoxx: ok
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: and a ddk for every other one
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: so like 00:11:775 (55,56,57) - could be ddd
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: then the next triplet be ddk
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: then the next be kkk
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: then ddk
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: then ddd
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: and so on
2016-04-24 05:15 newyams99: just a possibility
2016-04-24 05:16 Chromoxx: yeah that sounds good
2016-04-24 05:16 Chromoxx: going with that
2016-04-24 05:16 newyams99: kk
2016-04-24 05:16 Chromoxx: k den
2016-04-24 05:16 newyams99: k den
2016-04-24 05:17 newyams99: kk den
2016-04-24 05:17 newyams99: kkk den
2016-04-24 05:17 Chromoxx: O.o
2016-04-24 05:17 Chromoxx: sso, next point?

2016-04-24 05:18 newyams99: I'm thinking cuz I forgot my point lol
2016-04-24 05:18 Chromoxx: lol
2016-04-24 05:19 newyams99: k I forgot so moving on
2016-04-24 05:19 Chromoxx: xD
2016-04-24 05:19 newyams99: 01:00:061 (174,175,176) - maybe get rid of the triplet since you didn't have it at 01:04:632 (207,208) -
2016-04-24 05:20 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 05:20 Chromoxx: done
2016-04-24 05:20 newyams99: kk
2016-04-24 05:21 newyams99: 01:06:489 (222) - since you had a finisher on this hit maybe add it in the kantan/futsuu
2016-04-24 05:21 newyams99: but other than that
2016-04-24 05:21 Chromoxx: mh, i think it's ok
2016-04-24 05:21 Chromoxx: the finisher fits in in the context of the map here in the oni, but the kantan and futsuu do fine without it imo
2016-04-24 05:22 newyams99: sure, but having a finisher there doesn't really hurt for the easier diffs as long as it's nothing as frequent as the Oni
2016-04-24 05:22 Chromoxx: well, they don't really need the impact of the finisher there
2016-04-24 05:23 Chromoxx: there are finishers on a lot more points in the oni and adding all of them in the lower diffs would be kinda pointless
2016-04-24 05:23 newyams99: nono just on that one mentioned early
2016-04-24 05:23 newyams99: earlier
2016-04-24 05:23 Chromoxx: so for the lower ones i like to keep the finishers only there where they are really neccesary
2016-04-24 05:23 newyams99: having all of them would be pointless yea
2016-04-24 05:24 newyams99: I think there should be one on 01:06:489 - since the vocals are nice and strong
2016-04-24 05:25 Chromoxx: it's a normal kat in the kantan
2016-04-24 05:25 Chromoxx: not putting a finisher there
2016-04-24 05:25 Chromoxx: also in the futsuu
2016-04-24 05:25 Chromoxx: it would have no impact there
2016-04-24 05:26 newyams99: ok
2016-04-24 05:26 newyams99: lol idk xD
2016-04-24 05:27 newyams99: o and speaking of finishers ur missing one at 01:24:775 (309) -
2016-04-24 05:27 Chromoxx: lol
2016-04-24 05:28 Chromoxx: there's no strong sound there
2016-04-24 05:28 newyams99: well
2016-04-24 05:28 newyams99: you should say that too all ur other diffs then

2016-04-24 05:28 Chromoxx: a new part starts but there's no crash or anything to justify a finisher
2016-04-24 05:29 newyams99: oh
2016-04-24 05:29 newyams99: and you should say that TO all ur other diffs
2016-04-24 05:29 newyams99: lol spelling pls
2016-04-24 05:29 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 05:29 Chromoxx: added it
2016-04-24 05:30 newyams99: cool
2016-04-24 05:30 newyams99: 01:33:489 (344,345,346,347,348) - needs to be changed to match the gap in the inner oni
2016-04-24 05:31 Chromoxx: ddkd dk D
2016-04-24 05:31 Chromoxx: sound good?
2016-04-24 05:31 newyams99: starting where
2016-04-24 05:31 Chromoxx: 01:32:775 -
2016-04-24 05:32 newyams99: yea
2016-04-24 05:32 newyams99: altho I personally felt like you don't need the hit at 01:33:632 -
2016-04-24 05:32 newyams99: but that's up to you
2016-04-24 05:33 Chromoxx: i think it flows better and feels more natural
2016-04-24 05:33 Chromoxx: so i'll keep it
2016-04-24 05:33 newyams99: ok
2016-04-24 05:34 newyams99: well actually
2016-04-24 05:34 newyams99: the instrumentals kinda stop there
2016-04-24 05:34 newyams99: so I thought the hits should stop there
2016-04-24 05:34 Chromoxx: that note is still in there in the inner oni
2016-04-24 05:34 newyams99: flow is broken in the song so perhaps it'd make sense to break it in the map as well
2016-04-24 05:34 newyams99: yea I see that
2016-04-24 05:35 newyams99: so do what feels best
2016-04-24 05:35 Chromoxx: also the dk supports the long vocal there
2016-04-24 05:35 Chromoxx: since it kinda goes up, i think it's fine to have it there and it flows better imo
2016-04-24 05:35 newyams99: sure
2016-04-24 05:36 newyams99: 02:14:346 (561,562,563) - the triplet should also be deleted here
2016-04-24 05:36 newyams99: since there wasn't at 02:18:917 (596,597) -
2016-04-24 05:37 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 05:37 Chromoxx: done
2016-04-24 05:37 newyams99: 02:20:775 -
2016-04-24 05:38 newyams99: is a bit too long without a break
2016-04-24 05:38 Chromoxx: it's the oni
2016-04-24 05:38 newyams99: I see that the inner oni was pretty intense here
2016-04-24 05:38 Chromoxx: i think this long in the oni is ok tbh
2016-04-24 05:38 newyams99: nananananananananana
2016-04-24 05:39 newyams99: 02:25:489 (648) - just delete plz
2016-04-24 05:39 Chromoxx: but i can cut this 02:25:061 - to k D
2016-04-24 05:39 newyams99: PLOX
2016-04-24 05:39 newyams99: PLOX
2016-04-24 05:39 newyams99: that works too
2016-04-24 05:39 Chromoxx: ok

2016-04-24 05:40 newyams99:

2016-04-24 05:41 Chromoxx: is that it for the oni then?

2016-04-24 05:41 newyams99: yep
2016-04-24 05:41 Chromoxx: cool
2016-04-24 05:41 Chromoxx: btw what are we gonna do about the muzu?
2016-04-24 05:41 newyams99: I can mod it tmrw
2016-04-24 05:41 newyams99: hopefully
2016-04-24 05:41 Chromoxx: k
2016-04-24 05:41 newyams99: cuz I have biology homework
2016-04-24 05:41 newyams99: that was supposed to be due two weeks ago
2016-04-24 05:41 newyams99: lol
2016-04-24 05:42 Chromoxx: idk, if you still have time when we're done with the inner you could quickly put the suggestions in with the post with the chatlog
2016-04-24 05:42 newyams99: yep
2016-04-24 05:42 newyams99: dafuq is wrong with osu rn
2016-04-24 05:42 Chromoxx: then Nwolf can apply it tomorrow
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: I just updated the inner oni cuz I made a change just now and saved it to test
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: and then
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/252483
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: THIS AGAIN
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: ok got it
2016-04-24 05:44 Chromoxx: lol
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: 00:28:775 (211) - you seem to really use finishers for emphasis, and I don't really think this is the place
2016-04-24 05:44 newyams99: but idk
2016-04-24 05:45 Chromoxx: well, there's a bassdrum there
2016-04-24 05:45 newyams99: I know
2016-04-24 05:45 newyams99:

2016-04-24 05:45 Chromoxx: so i'd like to seperate that hit which also ends the section from the synth hits after it
2016-04-24 05:45 Chromoxx: because it definitely carries more weight
2016-04-24 05:45 newyams99: okie
2016-04-24 05:45 newyams99: moving on then
2016-04-24 05:45 newyams99: 00:30:632 (224) -
2016-04-24 05:45 newyams99: should delete
2016-04-24 05:46 newyams99: creates a gap like you did at 00:35:061 (252,253) -
2016-04-24 05:46 newyams99: and feels better with the instrumentals imo
2016-04-24 05:46 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 05:47 newyams99: cool
2016-04-24 05:47 newyams99: 00:48:489 (374,375,376,377,378) - Ctrl + G
2016-04-24 05:48 newyams99: would match the way you matched to the instrumentals at00:49:489 (381,382,383,384,385,386) -
2016-04-24 05:48 newyams99: owait
2016-04-24 05:48 newyams99: nvm
2016-04-24 05:48 newyams99: lol
2016-04-24 05:48 newyams99: owait
2016-04-24 05:49 newyams99: nvm that nvm
2016-04-24 05:49 newyams99: owait
2016-04-24 05:49 newyams99: lemme think before nvming
2016-04-24 05:50 newyams99: ok I think I figured it out
2016-04-24 05:50 Chromoxx: ur literally feeding me shit for my userpage right now xD
2016-04-24 05:50 newyams99: lol xD
2016-04-24 05:50 newyams99: so
2016-04-24 05:50 newyams99: 00:48:204 (372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - is matched to the guitar pitch
2016-04-24 05:50 newyams99: or whatever instrument that is
2016-04-24 05:51 Chromoxx: yes
2016-04-24 05:51 newyams99: while the k's in 00:49:347 (380,381,382,383,384,385,386) - are matched to the ticking sound
2016-04-24 05:51 newyams99: and it alternates like that
2016-04-24 05:51 newyams99: it makes this nice kddkddk 1/2
2016-04-24 05:51 newyams99: but I think you should just stick to one
2016-04-24 05:51 newyams99: but doesn't matter
2016-04-24 05:52 Chromoxx: the ks also go with the guitar
2016-04-24 05:52 Chromoxx: because it's slightly higher at those spots
2016-04-24 05:52 Chromoxx: also i think it fits as well as it can and wanna stick with that rythm
2016-04-24 05:52 newyams99: oh yea
2016-04-24 05:52 newyams99: sure
2016-04-24 05:53 newyams99: 01:07:204 (528,529,530,531,532,533,534) - is a 1/4
2016-04-24 05:53 newyams99: but 01:09:489 (551,552,553,554,555) - isn't
2016-04-24 05:53 newyams99: fully 1/4
2016-04-24 05:54 newyams99: perhaps change it so that they're consistent
2016-04-24 05:54 newyams99: same with 01:14:061 (598,599,600,601,602,603) -
2016-04-24 05:54 newyams99: and 01:11:775 (573,574,575,576,577,578,579) -
2016-04-24 05:54 Chromoxx: that part is pretty much escalating towards the end
2016-04-24 05:54 Chromoxx: that's why the triplets
2016-04-24 05:55 newyams99: so maybe reduce 01:07:204 (528,529,530,531,532,533,534) - ?
2016-04-24 05:55 newyams99: owait
2016-04-24 05:55 newyams99: nvm again
2016-04-24 05:55 newyams99: omg
2016-04-24 05:55 newyams99: I'm gonna nvm my nvm again -_-
2016-04-24 05:55 Chromoxx: 01:09:489 - but this one is getting changed
2016-04-24 05:56 newyams99: ok cool
2016-04-24 05:56 newyams99: that was the one that I was gonna mention
2016-04-24 05:56 newyams99: saved me the nvming
2016-04-24 05:56 Chromoxx: lol
2016-04-24 05:56 Chromoxx: 01:09:489 - i'm gonna make this one kdkkdkd
2016-04-24 05:56 Chromoxx: to bring some variety and bring out the higher pitch in this part
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: w8 wat there's higher pitch
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: oh
2016-04-24 05:57 Chromoxx: the one coming right after it
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: I see what you mean
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: ok
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: and just regarding that line of k's
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: 01:10:489 (560) - could be a possible change for a d
2016-04-24 05:57 newyams99: just cuz it's a bit much imo
2016-04-24 05:58 newyams99: I mentioned this b4 too
2016-04-24 05:58 Chromoxx: that kinda sounds disgusting
2016-04-24 05:58 Chromoxx: also the ks here emphasize the higher pitch
2016-04-24 05:58 Chromoxx: and having a few ks like this is perfectly fine, just look at tasuke's nanatsu issenzakura
2016-04-24 05:58 newyams99: ok sure
2016-04-24 05:59 newyams99: 01:37:061 (735,736,737,738,739) - don't see a reason to make this 5 hits
2016-04-24 05:59 newyams99: when the others are all triplets
2016-04-24 06:00 Chromoxx: variation i guess
2016-04-24 06:00 newyams99: then maybe have this as a 5plet too? 01:41:775 (783,784,785,786) -
2016-04-24 06:00 newyams99: meh
2016-04-24 06:00 newyams99: idk
2016-04-24 06:00 Chromoxx: yeah sure
2016-04-24 06:01 Chromoxx: doing that then
2016-04-24 06:01 newyams99: okie dokie
2016-04-24 06:02 newyams99: o and maybe you should add a finisher on 01:52:204 (839) - for the Kantan and Futsuu for consistency
2016-04-24 06:02 Chromoxx: yeah done
2016-04-24 06:04 newyams99: 01:57:704 (892) - probably delete since there's good enough variation here
2016-04-24 06:04 newyams99: cuz the rhythm's inconsistent with 01:53:061 (847,848,849,850) - and 01:55:347 (868,869,870,871) -
2016-04-24 06:05 newyams99: and just thought you could delete 02:19:561 (1079) - to emphasize the vocals ending
2016-04-24 06:05 Chromoxx: it's to step it up before the end of that section
2016-04-24 06:05 newyams99: then you should have a hit at 01:59:989 - instead
2016-04-24 06:06 Chromoxx: mh, and 1079 flows helps it flow over into the vocal
2016-04-24 06:06 Chromoxx: i left out the hit there because of the long stream right after
2016-04-24 06:06 newyams99: -_-
2016-04-24 06:06 Chromoxx: the triplet builds up for the stream better imo, but having one 5plet in the line before helps step things up before that too imo
2016-04-24 06:06 newyams99: `ok
2016-04-24 06:07 newyams99: just thought that 02:22:061 - to 02:26:489 - was kinda excessive and could have some 1/2
2016-04-24 06:08 newyams99: but that'd kill the free pp rip
2016-04-24 06:08 Chromoxx: well that's kinda the climax of the song
2016-04-24 06:08 Chromoxx: so i'd like to keep the long streams in there
2016-04-24 06:09 newyams99: I think the climax is at 02:30:204 -
2016-04-24 06:09 newyams99: starting from 02:27:204 - actually
2016-04-24 06:10 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 06:10 Chromoxx: and the long streams before that lead up to it pretty well
2016-04-24 06:10 Chromoxx: 02:29:918 - everything from here is basically post-climax and just cooling down
2016-04-24 06:11 newyams99: 02:27:204 (1167,1168,1169,1170,1171,1172,1173,1174,1175,1176,1177,1178,1179,1180,1181,1182,1183,1184,1185,1186,1187) - leads up to it well
2016-04-24 06:11 Chromoxx: well, that's the actual climax
2016-04-24 06:11 Chromoxx: after that it gets a bit calmer again
2016-04-24 06:12 newyams99: unfortunately I can't really be flexible here because I think many people would agree with me :/
2016-04-24 06:12 newyams99: I'll ask some BNs on discord
2016-04-24 06:12 newyams99: not rn but by the time I mod Nwolf's diff
2016-04-24 06:13 Chromoxx: well, let me see
2016-04-24 06:13 newyams99: but other than that the set looks fine to me
2016-04-24 06:13 newyams99: Nwolf's diff is fine too
2016-04-24 06:13 Chromoxx: ok
2016-04-24 06:13 Chromoxx: well MMzz didn't seem to have a problem with the last kiai streams
2016-04-24 06:13 Chromoxx: but idk
2016-04-24 06:14 newyams99: yea
2016-04-24 06:14 newyams99: they're fine
2016-04-24 06:14 newyams99: but it's just kinda
2016-04-24 06:14 newyams99: idk
2016-04-24 06:14 Chromoxx: well, putting more 1/2 in there would kinda break the jam
2016-04-24 06:14 newyams99: oh forgot to mention one thing
2016-04-24 06:15 newyams99: that's what I was about to say
2016-04-24 06:15 newyams99: 02:40:347 (1322,1323) -
2016-04-24 06:15 newyams99: WHAT IS THIS
2016-04-24 06:16 Chromoxx: well, it's just leaving a brief break
2016-04-24 06:16 Chromoxx: i can make it match with the part before tho
2016-04-24 06:16 newyams99: yea
2016-04-24 06:16 newyams99: it was just
2016-04-24 06:16 newyams99: like
2016-04-24 06:16 newyams99: why there
2016-04-24 06:16 Chromoxx: xD
2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99: kk cool
2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99: update it and I'll post the irc
2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99:

2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99: oh and
2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99: t/132963
2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99: spooky
2016-04-24 06:17 newyams99: looks like other people are getting the same glitch
2016-04-24 06:17 Chromoxx: also for the long streams at the start of the 2nd kiai i think it's ok because it's not one deathstream
2016-04-24 06:17 Chromoxx: they are cut on several spots and the streams themselves don't really get too long
2016-04-24 06:18 newyams99: kk but I'm still gonna discuss with BNs
2016-04-24 06:18 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 06:18 newyams99: k gtg take a shower
2016-04-24 06:18 newyams99: and play some league
2016-04-24 06:18 newyams99: it's urf weekend

2016-04-24 06:18 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-04-24 06:18 Chromoxx: gotta go sleep
2016-04-24 06:19 Chromoxx: it's fking light outside again.....
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: o.o
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: kk
2016-04-24 06:19 Chromoxx: cya xD
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: cya later then~
2016-04-24 06:19 Chromoxx: updated the map
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: shit
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: forgot
2016-04-24 06:19 Chromoxx: lol
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: to save irc
2016-04-24 06:19 newyams99: plz post for me xD
2016-04-24 06:19 Chromoxx: don't you save automatically?
2016-04-24 06:20 newyams99: wait
2016-04-24 06:20 newyams99: you can do that
2016-04-24 06:20 Chromoxx: yes
2016-04-24 06:20 newyams99: ok

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newyams99 2016-04-24T22:52:04+00:00

Hi, remodding Nwolf's Muzu.

Nwolf's Muzukashii

00:43:632 - Perhaps add a hit? I'm guessing this hit wasn't included to focus on the vocals at 00:43:489 (57) but it was inconsistent with how you added a hit at 00:47:918 (79).
After writing this I notice I just made the same suggestion as last time except in a different fashion lol
Also, seeing your response I'd like to argue that there is vocals there. I can guarantee 00:43:918 (58,59,60) is one word, and 00:43:775 is part of it.

02:36:489 (34) - Perhaps delete this hit. This is what I was getting at in my previous mod, with the finishers being connected to 1/2 rhythms. The rest is fine, but I think that 02:35:775 (31,32,33) is specifically confusing to hit properly for Muzukashii level players because the finishers at both the beginning and the end are connected to a 1/2 rhythm.

Inner Oni

00:28:966 (212) - Kinda skipped over this in our irc and the other mods, but I was thinking this. Discussed with others in discord about this too, and the SV change MUST be removed, since the 1/6 could be very easily misread. I ain't bubbling this without this removed, sry :/

Also, as for the section in question that I mentioned in our irc, I discussed on discord and it seems like there's some agreement that you should reduce it. So as a suggestion, I'd suggest just buffing up the kiai at 02:11:632 VERY SLIGHTLY and using it for the section. I'm also gonna be inflexible here too and have you do something about this D:

However, seeing how you had 02:30:204 (1205,1206,1207,1208,1209,1210,1211,1212,1213,1214,1215,1216) I'd like to suggest you make the section at 02:39:061 (1309,1310,1311,1312,1313,1314,1315,1316,1317,1318,1319,1320,1321,1322,1323,1324,1325,1326) more similar to its less dense counterpart as some felt that the ending kiai was overmapped overall. I didn't think it was bad, so I'm not gonna force this, but plz consider for consistency sake

PLEASE
PRETTY PLEASE
plz

Ok, gl~

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