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Luvdic
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 16 de julio de 2011 at 02:15:24 a.m.

Artist: Mago de Oz
Title: Y seras cancion
Tags: Gonzvlo lepidopodus The Big Simon Band Gaia Epilogo
BPM: 128
Filesize: 13129kb
Play Time: 03:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. Gonz (0,85 stars, 116 notes)
  2. Hard (4,45 stars, 315 notes)
  3. Insane (4,98 stars, 519 notes)
  4. lepidon! - Taiko Oni (4,88 stars, 768 notes)
  5. Normal (3,08 stars, 205 notes)
Download: Mago de Oz - Y seras cancion
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Awesome Skin and SB Made by Gonzvlo!!!
Also, easy diff made by him too.
And a special thanks to Rolled for helping me with the hitsounds in the guitar solo in insane
Gonzvlo
Skinned~
Antu Villegas
Star ^^

What problem have you with the mp3? maybe I can help :)
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Just go ahead and cut the mp3 around 10 - 30 seconds after the map ended with fade out.
Then check at 01:16:032 to see if it's bugged
Antu Villegas

ErufenRito wrote:

Just go ahead and cut the mp3 around 10 - 30 seconds after the map ended with fade out.
Then check at 01:16:032 to see if it's bugged

D: Podriamos haber hablado en español -.-"... En fin, aca está :D

http://puu.sh/1bxG

Resubido por si tuviste algun inconveniente.. Cuando probe descargarlo no pude

Offset:

- 6724

- 76103

Así creo que esta bien ^^ para mi :P

Ah, divertite acomodando todos los timings points :P
Rolled
Pro-tip: Asking me for hitsound advice will almost always get your map looked at.

Anywho, as I said I went in to this map expecting the hitsounds to be a wreck but I was pleasantly surprised. You don't seem like somebody who needs any help with hitsounds :P But since you did ask me for advice, these are some adjustments that I would make if the map had been mine (these are all for Insane difficulty):

00:17:974 (2) - Up until this point you had a constant pattern of sliders and claps. Not quite sure why you changed it right before the break. I see you do have some custom hitsounds in there, but I think it would be better at this point to stick with default sampleset.That being said:
Turn override off. Clap @ 2's repeat, whistle on the start of 2. Add normal clap to start of slider, remove from tail. Add clap to 00:19:380 (2). Keep whistle.

Next section sounds nice. I wouldn't change much. One thing that it is lacking is normal finish, and I think you could add it to some spots that aren't already taken by soft hitfinish (definitely don't add a lot. Just a few spots such as 00:42:349 (1)'s start.) I also like adding a whistle to 00:41:880 (2).

00:47:739 (6) tail would sound good with a finish as wel as 00:49:849 (4)l. If you want to go a bit further with it, which I recommend, add one to 00:48:911 (2) as well.

00:57:817 - This section doesn't quite match up to the rest of the great hitsounds of the map. Going soft sampleset is definitely the way to go, but I think it needs something like a steady hitsound, whistle works well, to remain constant throughout the section. It's simple, but sometimes simple is the best way to go. Starting with a soft whistle on 00:58:755 (3), and then continuing every other full beat sounds nice. Adding soft finish to 00:58:052 (2)'s start, and every similar beat (ie 00:59:927 (1), 01:01:802 (1)) is a good addition to that. Then you have room to get creative with the custom clap hitsound where ever you think it sounds nice.

The next chorus sounds nice. Wouldn't change much if anything.

The riff after the chorus, 01:38:708, works well too. Little to no hitsounds sounds great here. I do like how you added the finish in the middle to break it apart, but instead of putting it on 01:45:622 (4), i'd place it 01:46:091 (1). Putting it on the start and end of the slider works nice since it's a short slider. Just placing it on the start of it makes the finish get drowned out.

Guitar Riff: You started this off nice. It's simple but has a good effect. I went ahead with the same technique of whistle whoring you were using and mapped it out in a similar way. It's way easier just to post the .osu then it would be to explain what I did, so here it is. Note: The only thing I changed in the .osu is the guitar riff hitsounds. Everything else, including previous suggestions were left untouched.

Download: Mago de Oz - Y seras cancion (ErufenRito) [Insane].osu

Or if you want to manually edit the .osu:
Ctrl F 128122, make a note. Ctrl F 160466. Delete all in between including two mentioned. Replace:

SPOILER
470,219,128122,5,8
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417,132,128356,1,8
378,99,128473,1,0
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493,240,133161,1,0
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Okay I have to go fix a mistake. So posting this here. Minor fixes are needed after guitar solo anyway.
Topic Starter
Luvdic
I love you rolled :D

Although, i gotta say that your suggestion for 00:57:817, i dont quite like it so much or im not understanding what youre trying to say... :T
Most probably because im already way too used to the current one to change it so drastically... Ill try again for it another in time
MathiasXII
Heyyyyz~ ! I got your request :3

Well the timing is a little tedious to set in this song because the offset between beats is never the same... but it seems to stabilize around an offset though.

Here's what I found. I found that the offset that's currently there is very accuarate as it is though... the offsets I'm about to give you is only for a second opinion.

I always give another offset ANYWAY just to confirm or not if your offset is correct :). So I'd recommend to take this only as a suggestion =) :

First offset: 6734... I centered the offset to the beat... it seemed to be sooner and at a stable rate... With that offset, it seems that it's always a tad sooner or later, but there's more beat that hits JUST RIGHT on the offset... but I'll agree that sometimes it may sound a little off, but I still have a small conviction somewhere that it will play more accurately this way. See how it plays =).

Second offset: 76 106 ^

ONLY GIVE KUDOS IS THIS POST HAS BEEN OF ANY USE TO YOU!

But hey, nice map !!! Have a star * =).
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Arghh your timing doesnt convince me enough... D:
Topic Starter
Luvdic
delete please ;D
narakucrimson
Y serás cancioooón! *v*

[General]
  1. Muy lindo skin! Quizás los números me parecieron un poco aparatosos, con ese stroke blanco, pero bueno, admito que a veces soy un poco exquisito de más xD Buen trabajo :T
[Normal]
  1. 58:509 (3)~ - Mmm el spacing disminuye debido al cambio de velocidad... Creo que una transición tan repentina en un Normal puede ser confuso. Quizás la forma de que fuera menos confuso sería eliminar objetos antes del cambio de velocidad, pero no quedaría bien ni por asomo. Así que lo menciono nada más n.n
  2. 02:49:829 (1,2,1,2) - Saltos en Normal, wtf? Me suena a que esto podría generarle problemas a un jugador nuevo... Considera cambiar el pattern (aunque se ve bien :))
Sobre esta dificultad, nada más :D

[Hard]
  1. 02:13:032 (2) - El DS parece estar un poco mal, es más pequeño que el anterior.
  2. 02:13:032 (2,3) - No estoy seguro de que tantos whistles suenen bien... Intenta usar algos menos.
  3. 02:57:094 (2) - Pienso que (2) debería empezar aquí, y debería tener 1/4 de largo. No creo que medidas de 1/6 para este objeto en particular suenen bien...
[Insane]
  1. Te gustan los saltos, ¿no? xD
Bien, bien. Me gustó.
Gonzvlo

narakucrimson wrote:

[Insane]
  1. Te gustan los saltos, ¿no? xD
Él come jumps en el desayuno y streams en la cena.
narakucrimson

Gonzvlo wrote:

narakucrimson wrote:

[Insane]
  1. Te gustan los saltos, ¿no? xD
Él come jumps en el desayuno y streams en la cena.
Jajajaja me daba esa impresión si :P
Topic Starter
Luvdic

narakucrimson wrote:

Y serás cancioooón! *v*

[General]
  1. Muy lindo skin! Quizás los números me parecieron un poco aparatosos, con ese stroke blanco, pero bueno, admito que a veces soy un poco exquisito de más xD Buen trabajo :T
[Normal]
  1. 58:509 (3)~ - Mmm el spacing disminuye debido al cambio de velocidad... Creo que una transición tan repentina en un Normal puede ser confuso. Quizás la forma de que fuera menos confuso sería eliminar objetos antes del cambio de velocidad, pero no quedaría bien ni por asomo. Así que lo menciono nada más n.n Lol, me supuse que estaba bien, ya que el spacing en general ya es baja, reduciendolo un poco más no se nota mucho :T
  2. 02:49:829 (1,2,1,2) - Saltos en Normal, wtf? Me suena a que esto podría generarle problemas a un jugador nuevo... Considera cambiar el pattern (aunque se ve bien :))
El incremento en ds tampoco es mucho... además, para eso está el easy que se está haciendo
Sobre esta dificultad, nada más :D

[Hard]
  1. 02:13:032 (2) - El DS parece estar un poco mal, es más pequeño que el anterior. Lo sé... Hmm, quizá lo cambie en un futuro, mi intención era colocarlo exactamente en el medio
  2. 02:13:032 (2,3) - No estoy seguro de que tantos whistles suenen bien... Intenta usar algos menos. Check insane :T
  3. 02:57:094 (2) - Pienso que (2) debería empezar aquí, y debería tener 1/4 de largo. No creo que medidas de 1/6 para este objeto en particular suenen bien... Esa sección en realidad está en 1/6
[Insane]
  1. Te gustan los saltos, ¿no? xD
Bien, bien. Me gustó.
narakucrimson
02:57:094 (2) - Pienso que (2) debería empezar aquí, y debería tener 1/4 de largo. No creo que medidas de 1/6 para este objeto en particular suenen bien

Pero probaste hacerlo como dije? Suena mejor, creo :P
lovhin456
Heeyy ~ Aqui va mi mod ~

General;
- Errrm, el titulo no va todo con mayuscula (las palabras) ? Asi; "Y Seras Cancion" ?

Skin;
- Vamos a molestar a Gonz :3
- El default-1 no esta bien centrado ademas es un poco mas pequeño que los demas
- El default-5 me parece que no esta bien centrado ademas parece mas pequeño tambien
- El default-8 es definitivamente mas pequeño que los demas
- La animacion que haces con el followpoint no es muy notoria cuando se juega
- El reverse arrow me parece algo raro, el algunos sliders se ve mal
- El fail-background no deberia ser 1024x768 ?
- Ohhh ese borde medio rojizo del hitcircle overlay no me gusta ;w; solo lo digo ~
- Umm, tal vez haz el play-skip un poco mas grande ?
- Podrias hacer el color del hit0 un poco mas oscuro ?
- El section-pass y section-fail tienen transparencia que no se usa, ademas me parecen un poco pequeños
- Los bordes del spinner-approach circle se ven algo mal, usa el que deje en el thread de tu mapa de Muse ? Pero hazle todos los arreglos para que quede como este
- Buen trabajo Gonz ;3 por cierto ... que piensas de las elecciones ? Hahahaha >w<

Gonz;
- 02:49:829 >> Este combo es muy largo para la diff mas facil dividelo
- 03:00:610 >> Quitale el repeat, despues haz que termine en 03:01:079 y agrega notas en 03:01:547 (agrega nuevo combo aqui), 03:02:016, 03:02:485
- 03:02:954 >> Mejor suena un finish normal

Normal;
- 00:13:509 >> Tal vez quitale el clap ~ ?
- 00:19:369 >> Quitale el clap y que solo quede el whistle
- 00:25:463 >> Agrega una nota con finish ? Ahh y bajale el volumen solo al finish si es que lo haces
- 01:29:204 >> Mejor que el nuevo combo empiece aqui
- 02:57:329 >> Este timing section no es ya que tiene el mismo volumen del anterior
- 02:57:446 >> ^
- 03:00:610 >> ^
- 03:03:891 >> Ehhh podrias mover este timing section al tick azul que esta despues del timing section anterior a este ?

Hard;
- 00:25:463 >> Nota con finish ? ~
- 02:17:485 >> Mejor un whistle ;D
- 02:24:516 >> Quitale el whistle
- 02:29:438 >> Agregale whistle

Insane;
- Perfecto !! En verdad me encanta ~


* Star ~ (ノ>w<)ノ
Zelos
SPANEESH SONGZ okay

Folder Check:

Everything seems good in here!

Please note any mod request of mine is a suggestion and can be freely ignored.

Gonz:

00:59:916 (2) - i had no idea this slider does a loop, this could be lead to a slider miss since it really isn't visible at first that it is a loop.
(espescially for easy players)

02:01:079 (2) - ack it just slightly touches the HP bar, i dont know if that is an issue but waaaaaah.

02:34:829 (1,1,1) - this kind of a lot of spinners for an easy.

Gonz, I just like completely fell in love with your mapping style. I think Krisom would too.

Normal:

OOOH nothing wrong here. This kinda looked like a slow version of like lesjuh style maps in a way.

Hard:

02:25:219 (1,2) - this layout oh god no no no no no no that must be changed.

02:57:172 (2,1) - ^^^^^

Insane:

02:01:079 (1,1) - these are too close on the timing measure in my opinion.

02:04:829 (1,1) - ^^^

This was a very nice mapset overall.

If I could give this mapset the almost bubble star, I would.

But for now, here is a Zelos star.

Why is this in WIP anyway?
Topic Starter
Luvdic

lovhin456 wrote:

General;
- Errrm, el titulo no va todo con mayuscula (las palabras) ? Asi; "Y Seras Cancion" ?
Nop, busque por varias fuentes, y todos tienen la "s" y "s" en minusculas

Y oh por dios, tu mod psot se ve mucho mas corto sin lo del skin lol.



Normal;
- 00:13:509 >> Tal vez quitale el clap ~ ? Hmm no se, me parece que esto es una buena forma de separarlos en dos. Lo reconsiderare si alguien mas lo sugiere
- 00:19:369 >> Quitale el clap y que solo quede el whistle Pero los otros diff... >_>

- 00:25:463 >> Agrega una nota con finish ? Ahh y bajale el volumen solo al finish si es que lo haces Added en todas las diffs... Ya que de todos modos... ALGUIEN, ya insistia en que lo agregara >_>

- 01:29:204 >> Mejor que el nuevo combo empiece aqui Bien

- 02:57:329 >> Este timing section no es ya que tiene el mismo volumen del anterior
- 02:57:446 >> ^
- 03:00:610 >> ^
Hecho
- 03:03:891 >> Ehhh podrias mover este timing section al tick azul que esta despues del timing section anterior a este ? No veo la diferencia... Hmm...

Hard;
- 00:25:463 >> Nota con finish ? ~
- 02:17:485 >> Mejor un whistle ;D Lol, solia tenerlo, pero lo quite, pero re added.

- 02:24:516 >> Quitale el whistle
- 02:29:438 >> Agregale whistle
Hecho

Insane;
- Perfecto !! En verdad me encanta ~


* Star ~ (ノ>w<)ノ
And @Zelos: Why does everyone has something against spanish songs? ;_;

Anyways, the thing you said in hard and insane, I'll reconsider it if someone else suggest the same. And how you dare to say that my Normal is like a slow version of lesjuh's maps :(
And its on wip because its still missing the SB. ;D

And thanks to both!
Gonzvlo
Erufen don't break anything please :3

[quote="lovhin456"]
Skin;
- Vamos a molestar a Gonz :3
- El default-1 no esta bien centrado ademas es un poco mas pequeño que los demas
- El default-5 me parece que no esta bien centrado ademas parece mas pequeño tambien
- El default-8 es definitivamente mas pequeño que los demas
- La animacion que haces con el followpoint no es muy notoria cuando se juega
- El reverse arrow me parece algo raro, el algunos sliders se ve mal
- El fail-background no deberia ser 1024x768 ?
- Ohhh ese borde medio rojizo del hitcircle overlay no me gusta ;w; solo lo digo ~
- Umm, tal vez haz el play-skip un poco mas grande ?
- Podrias hacer el color del hit0 un poco mas oscuro ?
- El section-pass y section-fail tienen transparencia que no se usa, ademas me parecen un poco pequeños
- Los bordes del spinner-approach circle se ven algo mal, usa el que deje en el thread de tu mapa de Muse ? Pero hazle todos los arreglos para que quede como este
- Buen trabajo Gonz ;3 por cierto ... que piensas de las elecciones ? Hahahaha >w<¨ Orz
[quote]

Hey Lovhin :3, trabajaré en todo es cuanto pueda :3

[quote="Zelos"]
Gonz:
00:59:916 (2) - i had no idea this slider does a loop, this could be lead to a slider miss since it really isn't visible at first that it is a loop.
(espescially for easy players)
02:01:079 (2) - ack it just slightly touches the HP bar, i dont know if that is an issue but waaaaaah.
02:34:829 (1,1,1) - this kind of a lot of spinners for an easy.
Gonz, I just like completely fell in love with your mapping style. I think Krisom would too.

Hey, Zelos :3.
I'll check those things asap.

[quote]
Topic Starter
Luvdic
He means never. He broke his comp, and his parents wont buy a new one.

Gonzvlo wrote:

I'll check those things asap.
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