This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年2月9日 at 21:37:29

Artist: FictionJunction
Title: Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size)
Source: Ookami Kakushi
Tags: kajiura yuki eveless
BPM: 156
Filesize: 15171kb
Play Time: 01:24
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (2.07 stars, 92 notes)
2. eveless's Insane (5 stars, 290 notes)
3. Hard (4.49 stars, 160 notes)
4. Normal (3.42 stars, 119 notes)
5. Taiko (4.58 stars, 285 notes)

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size)
Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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おおかみかくし OP
FictionJunction-時の向こう_幻の空


enjoy >_<

Mapset:
Easy

Normal

Hard

Taiko

eveless's Insane Mapped by e婆

[general]
1s lead-in enough?
add "kajiura yuki" to tags?

[easy]
fine.

[normal]
00:01:852 (x) - add note?

[hard]
00:10:698 (x) - add note?
00:31:660 (T) - 0.5x is too slow i think, maybe 0.75x?
00:53:968 (1,2,3,4) - puzzling
01:07:045 (5,6,7) - looks good 0.0?

[insane]
fine.

really good.
star~

板凳

Star>w<

>kodomo
Thx

General

• - custom clap打開是whistle, custom whistle打開是clap..嗯
  - soft custom clap我覺得可以刪了..指連帶圖裡加的soft clap音效也刪了. 或者可以選擇換一個custom clap

Easy

• 00:24:352 (3) - 開頭刪whistle; 加clap
  00:26:275 (1) - 結尾clap
  00:30:891 (1) - clap換到折返; 折返刪whistle
  00:32:045 (2) - 刪finish
  00:35:506 (4) - 折返刪whistle
  00:40:506 (2) - 刪whistle
  00:43:583 (2) - 個人建議, whistle
  00:45:891 (4) - clap?
  00:48:198 (2) - ^?
  00:49:737 (4) - 結尾換成clap?
  00:53:583 (2) - 折返clap o.o? 剛好對上高音
  00:54:737 (3) - 開頭的whistle可以刪
  00:57:045 (1) - 開頭finish?
  01:01:660 ~ 01:08:968 - 這段的whistle下的有點無腦...聽起來不是很適合
  01:08:968 (7) - 刪?
  01:13:968 (5) - 開頭clap?
  01:15:122 (6) - clap?
  
  01:15:506 - 這裡開始沒音效了嗎XD
  
  不錯~
  
  
  
  Normal
  [list:ffba0]- OA+1

00:00:891 (4,5,6) - 間距, 把grid snap關掉後排一次
00:13:198 (6) - 開頭刪clap, 折返加clap; 順帶一提, (4,5,6)跟音樂不是太配合
00:16:660 (2) - 結尾whistle?
00:21:660 (4,5,6) - 同不配合
00:25:891 (2) - 折返換成clap? 那邊加whistle有點太生硬的感覺(?
00:30:122 (1,2,3,4) - 排成正方型. (1)結尾刪clap. (4)開頭刪whistle, 結尾刪whistle, 加finish?
00:38:583 (1,2,3,4,1) - 這形狀真是= =...排成等邊五角?
00:41:660 (2) - 開頭刪whistle, 加clap
00:43:968 (1) - slider中間那點往下拉一grid
00:51:660 (6) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/52867 ?
01:07:814 (1) - 換成whistle
01:08:198 (2) - 刪whistle
01:08:391 (3) - 開頭clap
01:15:891 (1) - 2.02x (´･ω･`) ･･･
01:17:045 (2) - 建議縮短一拍, 01:18:583 - 補circle
01:23:583 (1,2,3,4) - 連續finish大丈夫? 不是太好聽



Hard

• 00:03:198 (T) - 音量下調15左右
  00:08:968 (3) - 結尾刪whistle? 最好可以把結尾也用N音效..嘛只是建議
  00:13:583 (2) - 這段未免whistle太多...折返刪whistle
  00:14:737 (4) - 開頭刪whistle
  00:17:045 (3,4,5) - 這種停頓不太舒服, 換換位置?
  00:20:698 (3,4) - 節奏跟前面比較起來違和了, 刪(3), 把slider前移到紅線開始, 00:21:660 - 補circle
  00:29:352 (1) - 換成折返whistle, 開頭結尾都刪
  00:30:891 (4,5,6) - 間距...(6)左移一grid
  00:31:660 - 未免音量太大, 而且一接就是雙finish..不喜歡這裡
  00:44:352 (2) - 刪whistle
  00:53:968 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 這段最糟糕了, 重排不解釋
  00:57:429 (2) - 怎覺得這slider形狀有點崩
  00:58:391 (3,5,6,7,1) - 太擠了
  01:07:045 (5,6,7) - 重排, 首先(5,7)這樣疊著已經不好看清楚, 你中間還要補一個6..
  01:12:429 (1) - 刪finish, 這下的太隨機了
  01:23:583 (1,2,3,4) - 同Normal
  
  我怎覺得這diff看起來像guest..不像你的風格, 而且好像有點偷懶
  
  
  
  Insane
  [list:ffba0]- HPD-1~2, 有慢速段HP掉落速度會比較快..
  - 還有我不解為什麼Hard是中圈, Insane卻是大圈

00:05:122 (6) - 結尾whistle
00:05:506 (7) - 刪, 00:05:698 - 補circle
00:05:891 (8) - 開頭whistle, 折返刪
00:06:948 (2) - whistle, 00:07:429 (5) - 折返whistle (這邊是一套, 如果(2)不打算加, 後面的也不用改)
00:09:545 (6) - 折返whistle?
00:11:852 (4,5,6,7,8) - 這種3連+1/2+1/2的疊不怎麼好..
00:14:352 (3) - 開頭whistle?
00:17:237 (1,2) - 我覺得應該用clap代替whistle..畢竟你前面還在用whistle打節奏, 這裡突然用一個音效弄別的效果出來..呃..不好形容:o
00:20:891 (3) - 也弄成彎的?
00:23:775 (1) - 結尾刪whistle
00:27:429 (1) - 刪whistle
00:27:814 (2) - 開頭換成whistle, 結尾加clap
00:28:391 (3) - whistle
00:28:583 (5) - 刪clap
00:29:737 (1,2,3,4) - 你意識到這裡出什麼問題了嗎? 重排不解釋
00:32:045 (2) - 刪finish, 另音量問題同Hard
00:33:968 (6,7,8,9) - 你可以選擇：


或


00:35:891 (1,2,3) - slider開頭加whistle, 結尾刪finish
00:40:795 (6) - 刪
00:41:275 (1,2) - 跟35秒的差不多, slider刪finish
00:43:968 (1,2) - 刪finish
00:44:737 (3) - 刪whistle, 可以考慮加finish
00:44:737 - 這裡開始節奏密集的...跟前段差距太大, 適量刪note
00:50:122 (5,6) - 一個3.27x, 00:50:891 (10,1) - 這邊該跳你卻接1.00x...服了
00:54:929 (5) - new combo
00:55:314 (3) - 右移1格 (grid 3)
00:55:506 (1) - 疊在00:54:929 (1) - 底下
00:55:122 (6) - 下移2格, 左移2格 (grid 3)
00:55:698 (2) - 疊在00:55:314 (3) - 底下
00:55:891 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 建議: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/52875, http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/52876
01:02:622 (1) - 取消new combo
01:03:006 (2) - new combo
01:04:737 (2) - 開頭刪whistle, 結尾whistle
01:05:987 (6,7,8,9) - 用0.3x間距, 順便(6) new combo, 01:06:852 (1) - 刪new combo
01:08:006 (1,2,3,4,5) - 這跳過份了吧..
01:08:775 (3) - 下移三格(grid 3), 01:09:160 (5) - 刪, 複製(4)水平翻轉
01:10:891 (2,3,4,5) - 沒意義的節奏
01:16:083 (5,6,7) - 不用縮短間距
01:17:045 (1) - 取消nc
01:18:198 (11) - nc
01:23:198 (1) - 取消nc
01:23:583 (6) - nc



EN很好, 到H開始亂, I還有點亂來...音效也不整潔了


嘛還是好圖, 丟星

>Pokie
謝謝mod..

moe moe Pokie face

*呢幾日忙到PK 等我年廿九再mod

Modding Time!

Overall : I think some of the slider make nosense Try to follow the rhythm of the song

Easy
Fine by me

Normal
00:57:045 (1) - Seems better if you add a finish
01:15:891 (1,2,3) - Too far from the previous note, move it nearer :3
01:18:583 (4) - Add a finish
01:24:160 (3,4) - Align with 3 and 4

Hard
00:20:188 (1) - Add a finish
01:09:352 (1) - ^
01:22:237 (X) - Add a note here?

Insane
00:17:237 (1,2) - Confusing
00:20:122 (1) - Add a finish
01:11:468 (3) - Not really centered properly
01:24:160 (1,2) - Make it further from the previous notes and have the same spacing as the previous notes
_____________________________________
Havva star!
And you might wanna have a SB "Slow Down"

DragonSparta wrote:

Normal
00:57:045 (1) - Seems better if you add a finish Fix
01:15:891 (1,2,3) - Too far from the previous note, move it nearer :3Fix
01:18:583 (4) - Add a finishFix
01:24:160 (3,4) - Align with 3 and 4Fix

Hard
00:20:188 (1) - Add a finishFix
01:09:352 (1) - ^Fix
01:22:237 (X) - Add a note here?X.No,thank you

Insane
00:17:237 (1,2) - Confusing X.No,thank you
00:20:122 (1) - Add a finishFix
01:11:468 (3) - Not really centered properlyX.No,thank you
01:24:160 (1,2) - Make it further from the previous notes and have the same spacing as the previous notesX.No,thank you

mod渣来给些个人建议~

【Insane】
00：17：237（1，2）不换个方向么。。和前面的4重叠感觉不太好=。=
01：08：775（3，4）不换成slider么
01：23：583（1，2，1，2）纯吐槽= =。这eggpain的Spacing。。。

【Hard】
00：18：198（4，5）这里我总是按早。。。我的话应该会把这两个NOTE往前移一拍。。（这个也当是吐槽吧- -。）

【Normal】
00：04：737（6）后面的new combo放在这里？
00：31：660（4）^
00：41：660（2）前面的nwe combo放在这里？
01：04：737（1）不要new combo
01：06：275（3）new combo
01：07：814（1）不要new combo
01：18：583（4）new combo么？=w=
（Combo先看了这个难度。。嘛。。也许只是不同的人见解不同吧~）

【Easy】
00：49：737（4）位置有点偏=。= （虽然正式玩的时候影响不大。。）

顺便。。90秒的视频13MB感觉有点大了=w=，可以去找鬼鬼压制一下~他可以在不影响质量的情况下把视频大小压制掉至少50%~

[general]
-The scoring page shows that there're 6 diff but I only download 5. What's happening?
-I think that 1.001 sec of audio lead in is not enough ._<
-Yeah, compress the vid._.

[Taiko Oni] DR, OD+1 if you like
00:03:968 -_- rrbrrbbbb
00:45:698 -3- rrrbrrb or rrrbbrb
01:07:814 -.- rrbrbbb or other simple patterns
01:17:237 -v- WTF?
01:22:237 -w- ^
general comment:
overmapped both in density and pattern 030
I think it need not be so stream, leving one easier taiko muzu is good enough.

[Taiko Muzu]
quite good for me.

[Insane]
00:17:237 (1,2) - weird for me
00:53:968 (1,2,3,1,2,3) asymmetrical triangle?
01:00:698 (2,3,4) - down 1 grid

[Hard]
fine for me.

nice map

[Easy]
00:07:429 (4) - 1 grid down?(lv.4)
00:07:814 (1,2) - too close in this combo.
*00:49:737 (4) - 條slider突左出去bo-_-
00:58:968 (3) - 1 grid up?(lv.4)
*01:03:583 (3) - new combo.Fit返個拍子
01:05:122 (1) - remove new combo.
01:06:660 (3) - new combo.
01:11:275 (2,3) - spacing,too far in this combo.
01:17:045 (2) - 1 grid right?(lv.3)
01:18:968 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
01:18:968 (1,2,3,4) - (1,2)同(3,4)既spacing同(2,3)既spacing有d出入-_-
nice@_@

[Normal]
01:05:891 (2) - 1 grid up and 1 grid left?
01:15:314 (4,5) - too far in this combo.
01:16:083 (2,3) - ^
fine*

[Hard]
00:48:968 (5,6) - too close.
00:59:545 (5,6) - too far in this combo.
fine.

[Insane]
*00:12:237 (7) - 同個(6)對齊?之後個(8)自己識整啦我諗.
00:29:160 (3,4) - too close in this combo.
00:35:506 (9) - new combo
**00:35:891 (x) - add note in here,then add the slider in 00:36:383 and end of slider in 00:36:468.and new combo.
**00:36:660 (x) - add the slider in here and end of slider in 00:37:045,put the notes in 00:37:429,00:37:814,00:38:006 and 00:38:198.
sound would be better if you change this.
00:41:275 (x) - add note?
*00:41:660 (x) - new combo.add the slider in here and end of slider in 00:42:045.
*00:42:237 (x) - add the slider in here and end of slider in 00:42:622.
*00:42:814 (x) - add notes in here,00:43:198 and 00:43:583.sound would be better if you change this.
00:49:545 (1,2) - too close in this combo.
00:52:237 (4,5) - ^
01:07:237 (7,8) - ^
*01:09:160 (x) - sound would be better if you add note here.
01:11:468 (3,4) - too close in this combo.
01:16:083 (5) - new combo?
**01:22:814 (4,5) - fake.
good~

good job~張圖做得唔錯牙>_<但係sound set同排位方面可以再小心d...insane呢個diff節奏比我既感覺有小小亂黎-_-
同埋有d notes既放位我真係感應唔到-_-
不過真係唔錯,加油*****

[General]
offset:+8
1s的lead-in个人认为不够，2s会好一些？（offset只有100ms+）
你clap和whistle放的太让人想吐槽了。。

[Easy]
00:02:429 (4) - 去掉折返，补上00:03:775的重音
00:49:737 (4) - 这有出屏的嫌疑
00:54:737 (3) - 减掉两个折返，把长白线的那个重拍音用circle打出来（叠到4上即可）
01:23:198 (2) - 尾不要finish

[Normal]
00:04:737 (6,1) - switch new combo
00:09:737 (2,3,4,5) - 这里建议老实的铺1/1。因为前面的慢节奏明显是走鼓的路，这里突然换到vocal并不很好 （事实上后面也是在1/1）
00:43:775 - 加音
01:02:622 (3) - 删
01:15:506 (5,1) - 即使有了new combo，不支持Normal用跳
01:23:583 (1,2,3,4) - 用slider就好（Hard也只是slider）？

[Hard]
这个难度有些默认Soft-hitclap加的不明所以
00:00:506 (2) - 这里开始连续打叠点circle并不感觉很好，建议：

break弄个spinner填满？
00:37:622 - 加音？
00:38:583 (2) - 用3/2slider折返，然后补个1/1 circle
感觉比之前乱，有一些时候理解不到节奏的跟随对象

[Insane]
00:00:314 (2) - 删
00:17:237 (1,2) - 虽然应该不至于unrankable但不建议。只到1为止没问题，但2基本会被全挡住（而且头尾完全接上了）。考虑错一些位？
00:30:698 - 加音？（我会选择加这个音，new combo，叠在1上。1的new combo消掉）
00:54:929 (1) - 这一串只是提供一种思路，纯建议。有时候可以不考虑一定要叠起来才有“遮”的效果

01:09:160 - 索性加个音叠在2尾上。不过接下来一串啪啪啪我觉得不合适
01:23:775 (2,1) - 容易被误判成1/2？

[Taiko Muzukashii]
fine.

[Taiko Oni]
overmap了。后面的大串鱼蛋没什么必要的。按歌来讲这也就摆个7星最多8星的曲子，搞那么复杂干啥= =

o.o...rin先mod了吗！

done

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (kanpakyin) [eveless].osu

By request:

Overall:
Maybe the hitsound is by its nature a bit subtle. Nothing wrong though.

[Easy]
You can utilize some slidertick hitsounds~

[Normal]
00:13:006 (x) - I expected a note here (fitting the lyrics), but this is totally up to you.

[Hard]
00:18:006 (x) - add a note here?

[Taiko]
I can't mod taiko but as far as I see the rhythm is good.

[eveless]
00:25:891 (4,5,6) - a tiny bit offscreen but I guess it's fine
00:42:237 (2) - I thought this is 1/8 beat earlier or a note exists at 00:42:045...

==========

Well made maps. Flow is also very good.
Star!

我覺得都背前面的人mod光了w

请在各难度补上eveless的tag

[eveless]
00:18:006 (6,7) - 换下whistle，这个还是顺承不是转折
00:26:083 (6) - 出屏幕了
00:32:333 (10) - 建议删
以下一串的clap
00:40:891 (3) - 头
00:41:660 (1,2) - 尾
00:43:968 (1) - 头

00:47:333 (4) - 加音
00:50:410 (3) - 挪到1/2前效果更好
00:52:814 (2,3) - 这里开始感觉这样的节奏更好

01:17:045 (1) - 去whistle
01:23:583 (2) - 头加whistle

...f**k three post OTL

ignore it

yongtw123 wrote:

By request:


[eveless]
00:25:891 (4,5,6) - a tiny bit offscreen but I guess it's finechanged it
00:42:237 (2) - I thought this is 1/8 beat earlier or a note exists at 00:42:045...i dont think so , and no note in 00:42:045 because of slow down rythem

NatsumeRin wrote:

请在各难度补上eveless的tag

[eveless]
00:18:006 (6,7) - 换下whistle，这个还是顺承不是转折
00:26:083 (6) - 出屏幕了
00:32:333 (10) - 建议删
以下一串的clap
00:40:891 (3) - 头
00:41:660 (1,2) - 尾
00:43:968 (1) - 头

00:47:333 (4) - 加音
00:50:410 (3) - 挪到1/2前效果更好
00:52:814 (2,3) - 这里开始感觉这样的节奏更好
ATTACH[51.png]
01:17:045 (1) - 去whistle
01:23:583 (2) - 头加whistle

all fixed

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (kanpakyin) [eveless].osu