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Hatsune Miku - Uta ni Katachi wa nai keredo

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Nymph
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年7月26日 星期二 at 14:58:54

Artist: Hatsune Miku
Title: Uta ni Katachi wa nai keredo
Source: Vocaloid
Tags: air_kannabi doriko
BPM: 98
Filesize: 7182kb
Play Time: 04:42
Difficulties Available:
  1. Air_kannabi's Easy (1.19 stars, 217 notes)
  2. Yuki (4.47 stars, 569 notes)
Download: Hatsune Miku - Uta ni Katachi wa nai keredo
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Nymph's 4th map ~
FULL VERSION - Uta ni Katachi wa nai keredo by Hatsune miku~
歌に形はないけれど~


And here is the short version by
Jojo:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27730


Thanks for air_kannabi's easy diff~
and Yuki is the hard diff by me.
JoJo
;)
Selee
Timing:
BPM: 98.000
Offset: 1166

Nice song~ Star
Topic Starter
Nymph

Selee wrote:

Timing:
BPM: 98.000
Offset: 1166

Nice song~ Star
Thanks for timing help~
Hatsune Miku_old
笑颜をくれた君が泣いてるとき ;)
Air_kannabi
首先!!star~!
再来!! :) 这歌咱非常喜欢!
然后!!若是有位置咱希望能GD个,若是不嫌弃。。
最后!!。。。没了!
Topic Starter
Nymph

Air_kannabi wrote:

首先!!star~!
再来!! :) 这歌咱非常喜欢!
然后!!若是有位置咱希望能GD个,若是不嫌弃。。
最后!!。。。没了!
谢star~欢迎GD的 难度随意 不过是三星以下更好..我EASY有点做不出来了...嘛总之随便啦~
Air_kannabi
谢star~欢迎GD的 难度随意 不过是三星以下更好..我EASY有点做不出来了...嘛总之随便啦~
咱和你貌似在一个Q群!!有时间群上私聊好了(游久群!
kanpakyin
很快的看了一遍...
有幾樣東西想吐遭...
~為甚麼你這個diff和你給Joshua Lost的diff感覺有相似= =b
~為甚麼節奏都用1/2和3連猛塞?= =b 加點合適的4連的2連還是很好聽的.
~MP3音質差啊= =
沒了= =

Star.

這個帖子不要給kds..
Topic Starter
Nymph

kanpakyin wrote:

很快的看了一遍...
有幾樣東西想吐遭...
~為甚麼你這個diff和你給Joshua Lost的diff感覺有相似= =b
~為甚麼節奏都用1/2和3連猛塞?= =b 加點合適的4連的2連還是很好聽的.
~MP3音質差啊= =
沒了= =

Star.

這個帖子不要給kds..

...因为只是完整版和短版的区别...难道说做2个同样的难度果然不成么..脑袋里没有新梗.. 二分之一和三连只是个人习惯吧..这个没办法了...音质什么的...压缩了就这样了..
Leorda
NI HAO

General
* I suggest you to make 1 Normal/Hard diff, otherwise the average player can be boring to play Air_kannabi's diff. It doesn't matter having 3 diff in 4 min song
* The end of 1st and 2nd Kiai is different on each diff

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Air_kannabi's Onions

* Change the diff name from [Air_kannabi's Onions] to [Air_kannabi's Easy]?

00:10:961 (8,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3) - I feel this part are kinda boring for me, try fill it with more circle and slider to make it interesting
00:45:247 (3,4,5) - I think it's ugly having a stack behind the slider (look this while testing the map)
00:56:880 (1,2,3) - This spacing are too small and it's confusing for beginner player
01:03:614 (4) - New combo?
02:03:614 (9) - ^
02:42:798 (1) - Too far from spinner, otherwise the beginner player can't reach this while gameplay
03:17:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This spacing are too small and it's confusing for beginner player

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Nymph
* Change the diff name from [Nymph] to [Insane]? It doesn't make sense if the diff name and Nymph_ are same...... Also, it's not fit between this diff name and song >_>

00:30:859 (B) - Add break here? Since it has large gap between 00:28:104 (1) and 00:33:921 (1)?
00:44:941 (6) - New combo
01:07:135 (7) - Not stack perfectly with tail slider, or it'll be weird stack during gameplay
02:09:431 (4,5) - Don't do this, because it's confusing for player if 02:09:431 (4) stack with tail slider and they don't know where should click first
03:44:023 (7) - New combo
04:23:819 (9) - ^ (it's too long for me)

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This song is perfect for the people who died.......
Topic Starter
Nymph

Leorda wrote:

NI HAO

General
* I suggest you to make 1 Normal/Hard diff, otherwise the average player can be boring to play Air_kannabi's diff. It doesn't matter having 3 diff in 4 min song ...3diffs with 5min length too hard to get mod..
* The end of 1st and 2nd Kiai is different on each diff

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Air_kannabi's Onions

* Change the diff name from [Air_kannabi's Onions] to [Air_kannabi's Easy]?

00:10:961 (8,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3) - I feel this part are kinda boring for me, try fill it with more circle and slider to make it interesting
00:45:247 (3,4,5) - I think it's ugly having a stack behind the slider (look this while testing the map)
00:56:880 (1,2,3) - This spacing are too small and it's confusing for beginner player
01:03:614 (4) - New combo?
02:03:614 (9) - ^
02:42:798 (1) - Too far from spinner, otherwise the beginner player can't reach this while gameplay
03:17:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This spacing are too small and it's confusing for beginner player

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Nymph
* Change the diff name from [Nymph] to [Insane]? It doesn't make sense if the diff name and Nymph_ are same...... Also, it's not fit between this diff name and song >_> I think it is ok..

00:30:859 (B) - Add break here? Since it has large gap between 00:28:104 (1) and 00:33:921 (1)? Ok I will try
00:44:941 (6) - New combo ok
01:07:135 (7) - Not stack perfectly with tail slider, or it'll be weird stack during gameplay ok
02:09:431 (4,5) - Don't do this, because it's confusing for player if 02:09:431 (4) stack with tail slider and they don't know where should click first ok I don't stack it
03:44:023 (7) - New combook
04:23:819 (9) - ^ (it's too long for me)ok

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This song is perfect for the people who died.......

thanks modding~
loveFantasy
me mod 8-)

[General]
- cool, 看完 Easy 我覺得還是多做個Normal吧
- tags: doriko-p 或是doriko

[Air_kannabi's Onions]
- 4分多鐘的歌做成這樣略嫌太簡單了, 即使以給入門玩家的標準來看, density都太低, 下面有些基於此請你加note的mod
- 可以討論一下要不要多加1秒左右的audio lead-in, hp條最後還是瞬移了約1/4
<00:01:166> (1) 背景有東西, 加個finish?
<00:06:063> (2) ^
<00:29:941> 可以下note(有鼓點), 同理(3)可以repeat一次
<00:33:002..> 所有第三拍(第三條白線, 對應(1)的是00:34:839, 其他的自己推)可以下note或repeat一次 (兩種交替用變化較多)
<00:43:104> (T) 無用綠線
<01:02:390> (3) new combo
<01:21:982> (1) 沒疊好
<01:48:308> (5) ^
<01:58:717> (5,1,2) inconsistent spacing
<02:01:166> (5) new combo
<02:13:310> 綠線沒snap好導致KIAI在slider中結束了
- 聽完KIAI感覺你音效實在下太軟了, 聽的到clap的地方要不沒下要不只下了soft-whistle
<02:55:043> (1,2) 別下jump啊
<03:03:614..> (1..) 這段非常空, 加點創意? for example

<04:20:145> (7,1,2) inconsistent spacing

[Nymph]
<00:08:512..> 這段感覺太響了, normal的hitnormal本來就不小聲了, 而且背景的鼓其實最後兩拍才進來
<01:11:880> (1) 疊著 (10)?
<01:30:247> (10,11) inconsistent spacing
<01:53:206> (13,14) ^
<02:40:349> (1,2) ^
<03:39:431> (2,3) ^
- 考慮到你的pattern已經很簡單了, 排版上下點功夫吧, 不用那麼牢的遵守spacing啊, 弄點跳出來或是在KIAI放大spacing什麼的 (尤其最後一段副歌, 都沒高潮的感覺)
_Kiva
we need some 鬼畜
Topic Starter
Nymph

loveFantasy wrote:

me mod 8-)

[General]
- cool, 看完 Easy 我覺得還是多做個Normal吧 4分多的图3DIFF好难要MOD。。
- tags: doriko-p 或是doriko 加上了

[Nymph]
<00:08:512..> 這段感覺太響了, normal的hitnormal本來就不小聲了, 而且背景的鼓其實最後兩拍才進來 音量-10
<01:11:880> (1) 疊著 (10)? 好的
<01:30:247> (10,11) inconsistent spacing 哎 没发现
<01:53:206> (13,14) ^ maybe fixed..
<02:40:349> (1,2) ^fixed
<03:39:431> (2,3) ^fixed
- 考慮到你的pattern已經很簡單了, 排版上下點功夫吧, 不用那麼牢的遵守spacing啊, 弄點跳出來或是在KIAI放大spacing什麼的 (尤其最後一段副歌, 都沒高潮的感覺) 恩 谢谢建议 我试试~
Thanks modding~
Air_kannabi

Leorda wrote:

NI HAO

General
* I suggest you to make 1 Normal/Hard diff, otherwise the average player can be boring to play Air_kannabi's diff. It doesn't matter having 3 diff in 4 min song
* The end of 1st and 2nd Kiai is different on each diff

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Air_kannabi's Onions

* Change the diff name from [Air_kannabi's Onions] to [Air_kannabi's Easy]?

00:10:961 (8,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3) - I feel this part are kinda boring for me, try fill it with more circle and slider to make it interesting
00:45:247 (3,4,5) - I think it's ugly having a stack behind the slider (look this while testing the map)
00:56:880 (1,2,3) - This spacing are too small and it's confusing for beginner player
01:03:614 (4) - New combo?
02:03:614 (9) - ^
02:42:798 (1) - Too far from spinner, otherwise the beginner player can't reach this while gameplay
03:17:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This spacing are too small and it's confusing for beginner player

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

This song is perfect for the people who died.......

thank you
:)

loveFantasy wrote:

me mod 8-)

[Air_kannabi's Onions]
- 4分多鐘的歌做成這樣略嫌太簡單了, 即使以給入門玩家的標準來看, density都太低, 下面有些基於此請你加note的mod
- 可以討論一下要不要多加1秒左右的audio lead-in, hp條最後還是瞬移了約1/4
<00:01:166> (1) 背景有東西, 加個finish?
<00:06:063> (2) ^
<00:29:941> 可以下note(有鼓點), 同理(3)可以repeat一次
<00:33:002..> 所有第三拍(第三條白線, 對應(1)的是00:34:839, 其他的自己推)可以下note或repeat一次 (兩種交替用變化較多)
<00:43:104> (T) 無用綠線
<01:02:390> (3) new combo
<01:21:982> (1) 沒疊好
<01:48:308> (5) ^
<01:58:717> (5,1,2) inconsistent spacing
<02:01:166> (5) new combo
<02:13:310> 綠線沒snap好導致KIAI在slider中結束了
- 聽完KIAI感覺你音效實在下太軟了, 聽的到clap的地方要不沒下要不只下了soft-whistle
<02:55:043> (1,2) 別下jump啊
<03:03:614..> (1..) 這段非常空, 加點創意? for example

<04:20:145> (7,1,2) inconsistent spacing
在你的建议的基础上进行了比较大的改动!!谢谢你的建议 :)

Download: Hatsune Miku - Uta ni Katachi wa nai keredo (Nymph_) [Air_kannabi's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Nymph
updated~
Kurowolfe
Hi there!
You sure work hard, Nymph_. Already your 4th map! XD
Nway, here's the mods:

[Air_kannabi's Easy]
I noticed that there is a lack of variety in hitsounds at the main parts, like the chorus. I think this is intentional, since the song itself provides the hitsounds somehow, but I also think you should at least put some whistles or claps around. Just an opinion anyway.

1'20''757 - Somehow I think it's better to just shorten this slider, ending at 1'21''370 instead.
4'15''859 - New combo here.
4'31''166 - New combo here.
4'35''451 - ^

Apart from that, a really nice map!

[Nymph]
About the combos, I was taught that the standard length of a combo is 10 except heavy streams. Maybe you should recheck your combos. I'll help mark down new combo locations if you choose to change them.

0'21''676 - I think this slider works better as a long slider instead of a reverse.
0'47''696 - Add a finish here too.
0'50''145 - New combo here.
1'09''737 - ^
1'14''635 - ^
1'19''533 - ^
1'24''431 - ^
1'29''635 - ^
1'51''370 - ^
2'10''961 - ^
2'15''859 - ^
2'56''268 - Sliders [3] and [4] here are really hard to read, since [4] is barely visible when [3] is hit. Maybe move [4] up a bit?
3'34''227 - New combo here.
4'03''614 - ^
4'28''104 - ^
4'33''002 - ^
4'38''206 - ^

Asides from the combo thing, this is a lovely diff.

Well, I'm not really a big fan of Miku, but this song is quite pleasant to hear, and the maps are nice as well, so a star to you guys~
All the best! :)
Topic Starter
Nymph

kurohacker wrote:

Hi there!
You sure work hard, Nymph_. Already your 4th map! XD
Nway, here's the mods:

[Air_kannabi's Easy]
I noticed that there is a lack of variety in hitsounds at the main parts, like the chorus. I think this is intentional, since the song itself provides the hitsounds somehow, but I also think you should at least put some whistles or claps around. Just an opinion anyway.

1'20''757 - Somehow I think it's better to just shorten this slider, ending at 1'21''370 instead.
4'15''859 - New combo here.
4'31''166 - New combo here.
4'35''451 - ^

Apart from that, a really nice map!

[Nymph]
About the combos, I was taught that the standard length of a combo is 10 except heavy streams. Maybe you should recheck your combos. I'll help mark down new combo locations if you choose to change them.

0'21''676 - I think this slider works better as a long slider instead of a reverse. well,I use long sliders before this so I think this time may have a change, so..
0'47''696 - Add a finish here too.well I think it is OK.
0'50''145 - New combo here. ok
1'09''737 - ^ok
1'14''635 - ^ok
1'19''533 - ^ok
1'24''431 - ^ok
1'29''635 - ^ok
1'51''370 - ^ok
2'10''961 - ^ok
2'15''859 - ^ok
2'56''268 - Sliders [3] and [4] here are really hard to read, since [4] is barely visible when [3] is hit. Maybe move [4] up a bit?ok
3'34''227 - New combo here.ok
4'03''614 - ^ok
4'28''104 - ^ok
4'33''002 - ^ok
4'38''206 - ^ok

Asides from the combo thing, this is a lovely diff.

Well, I'm not really a big fan of Miku, but this song is quite pleasant to hear, and the maps are nice as well, so a star to you guys~
All the best! :)
yeah all fixed~thank you very much~
Air_kannabi

kurohacker wrote:

Hi there!
You sure work hard, Nymph_. Already your 4th map! XD
Nway, here's the mods:

[Air_kannabi's Easy]
I noticed that there is a lack of variety in hitsounds at the main parts, like the chorus. I think this is intentional, since the song itself provides the hitsounds somehow, but I also think you should at least put some whistles or claps around. Just an opinion anyway.

1'20''757 - Somehow I think it's better to just shorten this slider, ending at 1'21''370 instead.ok!
4'15''859 - New combo here.ok!
4'31''166 - New combo here.ok!
4'35''451 - ^ok!

Apart from that, a really nice map!

thanks :)

Download: Hatsune Miku - Uta ni Katachi wa nai keredo (Nymph_) [Air_kannabi's Easy].osu
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