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Deino - Nehanshika

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Shiirn
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, July 18, 2011 at 2:57:53 PM

Artist: Hatsune Miku
Title: Nehanshika
Source: nehanshikaP
Tags: gakupo vocaloid saten-san onosakihito deino gab
BPM: 175
Filesize: 16021kb
Play Time: 02:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. Abomination (5 stars, 414 notes)
  2. Hard (4.87 stars, 247 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 341 notes)
  4. Normal (4.22 stars, 171 notes)
  5. Ono's Taiko Oni (4.94 stars, 872 notes)
  6. Saten's Easy (2.02 stars, 105 notes)
Download: Hatsune Miku - Nehanshika
Download: Hatsune Miku - Nehanshika (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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They call me a monster
They call me the birth of sin
They call me the daughter of chaos
They call me an abomination
My life is over.

Since the actual composer for this map is legally and actually vague (Deino, nehanshikaP, or Gab?) I decided to go with Hatsune Miku as the artist with Gakupo in tags (we know he's there) along with Deino and Gab, with "nehanshikaP" as the source (I KNOW IT STANDS FOR NEHANSHIKA PROJECT, HUSH YOU)
Noobita
My star is over.
Saten
My [Easy] is over.

Also, there are three .osb's in the folder~ :3 (Yes I re-downloaded it to confirm it~)

Download: Deino - Nehanshika (Shiirn) [Saten's Easy].osu
val0108
yaaaaaay
Saten
Omega
I Guess this is "Done".

Star. Kudosu Star. Have fun!
OnosakiHito
Taiko request done.
I will asked some friends because of the offset. Still can't figured out.
☆~



Download: Deino - Nehanshika (Shiirn) [Ono's Taiko Oni].osu
Topic Starter
Shiirn
awesome, ono. I'll get it in in a bit
0_o
Easy
Technically fine, but I think the spacing/velocity is a bit high for the easiest difficulty

Hard
00:18:717 (3,4,5) - Maybe space these further apart? The previous spacing made me think these were 1/4 notes
00:30:889 (2,3) - This threw me off as I was expecting another repeat (like 00:13:231 (3) etc)
01:25:917 (2) - Final repeat caught me off guard, it's pretty difficult to predict especially with the placement of the next combo
01:41:346 (4) - Pretty difficult to tell this is a slider til the last second - I caught it, but just barely.

Insane
00:07:060 (1,2,3,4) - I know it looks good, but the song isn't in 1/3 here so it really doesn't sound very good. Snap to 1/4, and either make a more spread out pattern or add another repeat to each (probably the latter). Or something else entirely that isn't in 1/3.
00:24:374 (5,6,7,8) - A little awkward imo, I think it would play better if there was something to click at the beginning of the stream at 00:24:546 -
01:18:374 (1,2,3,4) - Same as before
01:35:688 (1,2,3,4) - Same as before
01:54:031 (1) - You and your unpredictable repeats/lack thereof *shakes fist*

AbominASDFAFDIUAHL
00:19:403 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) and 00:57:803 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - The doubling back on the first steam and the messy arrangement on the second one make them VERY difficult to play. Yeah I know I'm complaining about difficulty in a wtf map, but I really do think that smoothing these into nice curves/lines would make them much more playable.
And maybe do something like the final stream for the second one? Just keep it fluid.
01:19:060 (1) - Distance snap this to the previous note so you can tell for sure that it's a continuous stream?

But yeah pretty good, I don't know about all of Abomination but I'll let the pros sort it out.
*
Zelos
As per your request

Folder:
You have 3 .osbs in there. How did you manage 3? Delete them all and full submit.

Saten's Easy:
This difficulty does not have a timing preview point set. Fix this.
00:19:403 (2) - the random volume increase at the return point of the slider does not fit at all. Consider removing?

Skipping Normal as you said.

Hard:
Please set a timing preview point.
You have some unsnapped notes.
00:19:403 (1) - there is a random volume spike within the spinner, please change this.
Besides obvious jumps, why is it that you don't wanna keep consistent half note spacing?

Insane:
A timing preview point is not set. Please fix.
00:07:060 (1,2,3,4) - why do you have 1/3rd sliders when its obviously 1/4th drums in the background? It not only does not play well but will confuse the hell out of some people. Please change this.

00:19:746 (1,1,1) - there is nothing really special about this pattern so you should remove the new combo's from these.
01:18:374 (1,2,3,4) - again with the 1/3rd sliders.

Abomination:
WOW
I have no idea where to even begin.
Its mainly because I have no idea what you were trying to accomplish on this difficulty.
The random 1.5 speed ups have no warning or any sign of it in the music.
The random slow down back to 1.0 again no warning or any sign of it in the music.
All i can really say is:
02:13:231 (1) - center this.

Star even though abomination is a holy wtf.
Topic Starter
Shiirn
stuff done, pixie dust flicked all over the corpses of the errors
Saten
Normal:
01:01:917 (1) - place it in the center? no wait, nvm
00:50:260 (4) - 1 grid up
00:50:946 (1) - ^

Hard:
01:30:374 (5) - 1 grid up and right
01:41:174 (3,4) - 4 grids down
02:08:431 (3) - fix spacing?

Insane:
01:19:403 (4) - 1 grid right?
01:20:603 (3) - 1 grid right
01:39:974 (3) - 1 grid left
01:43:574 (2,3) - 2 grids right
01:53:174 (2) - 3 grids right
01:55:917 (2) - 2 grids up
02:06:374 (1,2,3) - 1 grid up

Abomination:
/me runs
Lanttu
I could swear at one point I saw the most insane diff having 5.10 stars, heh~
Also, it's so sad that the spinner covers the awesome part where bugs come out of Miku's mouth... ;u;

[Insane]
00:29:517 (4) - Maybe new combo?
01:19:060 (3) - Move the end two of three grids left, it looks weird when it's almost parallel to 2
02:09:117 (1 ->) - oh god this stream

[Hard]
00:24:889 (1) - Replace clap with finish?
01:21:117 (1,2,3) - ..These sliders are just ugly. ;u;
01:25:917 (2) - One more repeat and reverse selection?

[Saten's Easy]
00:11:517 (3) - New combo?
00:27:974 (4) - ^
00:33:460 (4) - ^
00:55:060 (3) - ^
01:12:889 (3) or 01:15:974 (4) - ^
01:22:146 (4) - ^
01:30:717 (6) - ^
01:38:946 (4) - ^
01:44:431 (5) or 01:47:517 (3) - ^
01:55:403 (5) - ^
02:00:889 (4) - ^
02:07:746 (6) - ^

Not very usefull mod it seems, sorry about that. ;u; Have my star~
Saten
no NC changes D:
lolcubes
Hey~

Some Abomiation modding! Although can't really judge what's exactly wrong, but I will tell you what doesn't play well, or some details I would like to see changed.

[General]:
  1. Combo colors: I don't like them. Current ones are hard to see with video at some points and the background has some vibrant colors which stand out. Suggestion:
    SPOILER
    Combo1 : 165,20,165
    Combo2 : 213,0,0
    Combo3 : 49,36,208
    Combo4 : 56,194,150
    These colors feel better to me, especially the green. Regular green is just too much of a punch-in-the-face since miku has slightly aqua-ish hair color.
  2. Add Saten-san and OnosakiHito to tags.
[Abomination]:
  1. OD-1. OD8 is extreme when a song has streams, and spinners are quite short, so OD7 makes it easier to complete a spin and yet it's still hard enough.
  2. 00:16:660 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - If possible curve them better. Nothing serious, but 4 kind feels too "sharp", had to adjust my hand as you saw in those fail tries :p. But then again I had a long break and I'm out of shape.
  3. 00:19:489 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - With this SV this doesn't play well. Missing a note or 2 is critical with such SV, and with this high OD, you should either make them a straight stream, or condense them to a smaller distance scale.
  4. 00:24:031 (4,5,6,7,1) - This doesn't play well. Jumps are too big for a fast song with small circles. I suggest that you make 6 and 7 somewhere closer to 1. Just like you did here: 01:35:345 (4,5,6,7,1).
  5. 01:01:917 (1) - Instead of this note, why not make a second spinner with an endpoint here? So you have 2 spinners in a row. You can also make it really quiet as the song is quiet here as well. A single note at this part of the song is anticlimatic imo. There is a keyboard background here anyway (unlike at the end) which makes a good excuse as well.
  6. 01:29:860 (2) - Don't like the placing of this note. Would feel much better to have it at the endpoint of slider 1 in the combo.
  7. 01:40:317 (1,2,3,4) - I don't like this. You should make 1 and 2 have smaller spacing, 3 and 4 would be fine then. Even with the slight shift they are very difficult to read, even with novideo. (although the new combo colors help immensely here, so feel free to leave this if you make the combo color change)
  8. 01:47:174 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Ugly shapes. A small suggestion: http://puu.sh/2zam. I rotated each slider by 6 degrees clockwise. Granted I didn't shape them into anything beautiful because I can't really give you a good advice here, but they really don't look nice. With the slight rotation it looks slightly better to me though. This concerns both slider groups. Feel free to ignore this though, from what I know it's probably intentional, just a nitpick. :3
  9. 02:10:574 - I think you should end the kiai here. Spinners under kiai are super annoying and the climax of the song is already behind this point.
[Saten's Easy]:
  1. AR-1. A bit too high AR for an easy.
  2. 01:01:917 - Unnecessary timing section.
  3. 02:09:117 (1) - I suggest you don't change the volume here almost at all. However if you do wish to leave it with a volume change, make it so it doesn't get louder at the middle of the spinner, just have it slightly fade towards the end.
  4. 02:09:117 (1) - Another unnecessary timing section.
[Normal]:
  1. AR-1. More than AR5 is already "hard" territory if you ask me.
  2. 00:20:774 - The volume change here is startling, and I don't like it. Remove this timing section.
  3. 01:01:917 (1) - Same deal as in abomiation, make a spinner here with this as it's endpoint.
  4. 01:46:146 (2) - Suggesting a whistle on the arrow part of the slider. To add variety.
  5. 01:57:460 (6) - ^
  6. 01:59:517 (4) - Sounds like you forgot a whistle here. Add it.
  7. 02:09:117 (1) - Same like in Saten's easy, I don't like how the loudest part is the middle of the spinner.
[Hard]:
  1. Both OD and HP drain seem fake. I suggest using atleast OD5 and HP4 (might even use HP5, as the song has loads of sliders, and even if you miss like 2-3, you still get HP back very fast). Don't worry about star rating if the map has a "hard" feel. (HP5 and OD5 bring it to 4.91, while HP4 brings it to 4.87)
  2. 00:20:774 - Just like in normal, this volume change doesn't feel right.
  3. 01:01:917 (1) - Just like in normal and abomination, spinner here.
  4. 01:35:174 - I suggest that you map the voice here. Doesn't make it any harder and it would fit nicely.
  5. 02:09:117 (1) - Same like in normal and easy, don't make volume changes at the middle of a spinner.
[Insane]:
  1. HPdrain+1, OD+1. Feels a little too easy for an insane (99+ acc on first play lol).
  2. 00:24:631 (6,7,8,1) - Even though this isn't particularly hard, it doesn't play well. I suggest you make the slider more visible by moving 6,7,8 above it (and above the slider 5 in the same combo).
  3. 00:40:489 - Add a note here somewhere between the sliders. A small jump doesn't hurt, and currently it feels like it's missing something here.
  4. 01:01:917 (1) - Spinner!
Also I hope you made Abomination diff for approval, cause I don't think it's a nice map for ranking. It's fun and not too hard, but it's hard enough for anyone without a tablet.
Quite a nice song and good luck.~ :3
Saten

lolcubes wrote:

[Saten's Easy]:
  1. AR-1. A bit too high AR for an easy. imo it fits with the SV
  2. 01:01:917 - Unnecessary timing section. I'm basically using the same as Shiirn left on
  3. 02:09:117 (1) - I suggest you don't change the volume here almost at all. However if you do wish to leave it with a volume change, make it so it doesn't get louder at the middle of the spinner, just have it slightly fade towards the end. ┐('~`;)┌
  4. 02:09:117 (1) - Another unnecessary timing section. Yeah
Can you remove the unnecessary timing sections? ;w;
lolcubes

Saten-san wrote:

02:09:117 (1) - I suggest you don't change the volume here almost at all. However if you do wish to leave it with a volume change, make it so it doesn't get louder at the middle of the spinner, just have it slightly fade towards the end. ┐('~`;)┌
What I meant is the timing sections on top of it. They change the volume on the spinner as you spin and sounds weird. :p
knjiga
Awesome.
ziin
why do you map such a shitty song? Stop liking things I don't like.

Also, the video is just disgusting, both in content in quality. New offset is 2946 (12 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?s26iqliqloc6dsc
I can make a smaller video if you want.

[general]
you need a section-fail
Unless you did it on purpose, some of your breaks aren't correct, so resubmit them so the letterboxing goes at the right time.
I heard something about "epilepsy warning not needed if it's a video" thing. And this video doesn't flash 5 Hz for more than 5 seconds anyway, which I think cuts out 99% of epileptics.
There's a few non-symmetrical sliders. PM me back if you want a slider mod.

[easy]
Circles: 24 Sliders: 77
Seriously? At least make them about the same.

[normal]
00:07:060 (1) - http://puu.sh/2DB4 This also repeats a bunch. It sounds weird every time.

[hard]
00:07:060 (1) - http://puu.sh/2DBf or something that hits on these beats: http://puu.sh/2DCf

[insane]
00:07:060 (1) - http://puu.sh/2DAU Try it out, see if you like it.
00:24:631 (6) - bit of spacing, but I think (5) should be 2 circles instead. Repeats

[abomination]
aptly named. Didn't I hear you complaining about kirby mixes in chat?
00:07:060 (1) - http://puu.sh/2DCf claps or hitsounds on these beats (taiko got it right)
I found the rhythms kind of boring (not that I can pass it). Perhaps you could stick in some slider circle slider circle circle circle measures, or a few repeating sliders. The reason is because everything seems to be straight 1/1 or 1/2 with very little variation, so some offbeat sliders would be nice. I know I'm being hypocritical here from previous mods, but some offbeat sliders are a good thing. An entire measure of offbeat sliders is usually bad.

Also, at lolcubes:
Approval maps are only for approval because the score is so high, or there is some other ranking guideline that the map has to break.
Abomination doesn't break any ranking rules. The only thing is the difficulty, while steep, is not that bad. Something like Gold Dust plays almost identically, except with a better song playing in the background.
Saten

ziin wrote:

[easy]
Circles: 24 Sliders: 77
Seriously? At least make them about the same.
Most of my maps has more sliders than circles, that's my style D:
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