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Caput Mortuum
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, 24 March 2024 at 17:07:26

Artist: Kano
Title: paranoia
Tags: 初音ミク Hatsune Miku Dark Append 7th original Mezame-P mezamep めざめP Wakotsu-P わこつp wakotsup つなまる tsunamaru Utaite 歌い手 Vocaloid EXITUNES Vocalosensation BBCL-0005 或る街の白昼夢 arumachi hakuchûmu aru machi no hakuchuumu daydream city jpop j-pop pop japanese c85 comiket 85 コミケット
BPM: 150
Filesize: 7593kb
Play Time: 03:46
Difficulties Available:
  1. coeur brise - 4Key (4,76 stars, 3213 notes)
  2. hard - 4Key (2,78 stars, 1803 notes)
  3. insane - 4Key (3,98 stars, 2690 notes)
  4. normal - 4Key (2,02 stars, 1297 notes)
Download: Kano - paranoia
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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君の言葉も、君の名前も、触れたら滲んだ


Stamina / Jackhammer / Dense stream

或る街の白昼夢 / 鹿乃
Arumachi no Hakuchuumu / Kano
frolica
Hi~ From Cottony Cloud Modding Queue!

Here is modding!


Mod : Coeur Brise
Overall, try to avoid noticeable repeats. (It is too easy to find repeats while playing it.)
Example : between 00:13:639 - 00:20:039 - ( http://puu.sh/uGDaW/42844c0e90.png )

00:13:489 - 2 notes missing (Listen carefully.)
00:50:439 - Listen carefully.
http://puu.sh/uGDST/64d431ded5.jpg
00:55:139 (55139|1,55239|0,55339|1,55439|0,55539|1,55639|0,55739|1) - Unless it is the one you supposed to make, try to fix here.
01:54:539 - No reason not to place a note (as you placed a note at 02:07:339 -.)
02:32:839 - 02:42:439 - Imo, sudden ln part between these ones doesn't fit well (because the length of the [normal pattern/ln pattern] is not balanced.)
02:47:239 - 1 more note is better.
02:47:839 - you may put a note here if you want.
03:08:639 - 2 notes here would be fine.
03:35:239 - There are a few more sounds you may place notes. By placing them, you can make this one differ from your "Insane" diff.

Good Luck! ;)
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum

frolica wrote:

Hi~ From Cottony Cloud Modding Queue!

Here is modding!


Mod : Coeur Brise
Overall, try to avoid noticeable repeats. (It is too easy to find repeats while playing it.)
Example : between 00:13:639 - 00:20:039 - ( http://puu.sh/uGDaW/42844c0e90.png ) it's low bpm, and I wanted to make it different from the chorus. I think the player won't have any problem playing it. edit: my brain just processed what you said lol, yah i will change that

00:13:489 - 2 notes missing (Listen carefully.)
00:50:439 - Listen carefully.
http://puu.sh/uGDST/64d431ded5.jpg
00:55:139 (55139|1,55239|0,55339|1,55439|0,55539|1,55639|0,55739|1) - Unless it is the one you supposed to make, try to fix here. oh what have I done ,_, i'll keep it like that because I don't know how to fix it without ruining the others
01:54:539 - No reason not to place a note (as you placed a note at 02:07:339 -.)
02:32:839 - 02:42:439 - Imo, sudden ln part between these ones doesn't fit well (because the length of the [normal pattern/ln pattern] is not balanced.) really? I think it's fine.
02:47:239 - 1 more note is better.
02:47:839 - you may put a note here if you want.
03:08:639 - 2 notes here would be fine.
03:35:239 - There are a few more sounds you may place notes. By placing them, you can make this one differ from your "Insane" diff. I think it's fine, I also want to try making calm parts similar across all difficulties.

Good Luck! ;)
no reply means accepted or considered.
Thanks!
Davin Fortune
Let's see

Insane
00:08:039 - 2 note, just let the high piano that marked as 2 note, the one which has higher pitch like 00:07:639 - that is higher than 00:07:239 - i think just keep it in one note , this just kind of suggestion which will make less 2 note in the stream but keep the existence of 2 notes in it, you also can do the reversionary of my opinion(kebalikannya)
00:08:839 - ^
00:09:639 - ^
00:10:439 - ^
00:11:239 - ^
00:12:039 - ^
00:12:439 - make it 1 note, asking this based on upper mod
00:14:139 (14139|1) - ghost (use 50%)
00:14:839 - make it 3 note pls, it has higher pitch than 00:14:439 (14439|0,14439|1,14639|1,14639|3) -
00:14:539 (14539|2,14739|0) - and i'm not really sure about

Nanti malam lanjutin
genkicho
Hi


Vocal song? :/
Coeur Brise
00:12:839 (12839|1,12839|0,12889|2,12889|3,12939|1,12939|0,13039|2,13039|3,13089|1,13089|0,13139|3,13139|2,13239|0,13239|1,13289|3,13289|2,13339|0,13339|1,13389|2,13389|3,13439|0,13439|1,13489|3,13489|2) - wow
00:18:439 (18439|0,18539|0,18639|3,18739|3,18839|0,18939|0,19039|3,19139|3,19239|1,19339|1,19439|2,19539|2,19639|0,19739|0) -knapa minijack
00:25:639 (25639|2,25639|3,25839|3,25839|2,25939|3,25939|2) - wow
00:50:439 (50439|1,50439|0,50489|3,50489|2,50539|0,50539|1,50589|3,50589|2,50639|0,50639|1,50739|3,50739|2,50839|0,50839|1,50939|0,50939|1,51039|3,51039|2,51089|1,51089|0,51139|3,51139|2,51239|0,51239|1,51339|3,51339|2,51389|0,51389|1,51439|3,51439|2,51539|1,51539|0,51639|3,51639|2) - wow
01:15:639 (75639|3,75739|3,75839|3,75939|3,76039|3) - wpw
01:25:639 (85639|3,85639|2,85839|3,85839|2,86039|2,86039|3,86239|2,86239|3,86339|3,86339|2,86539|3,86539|2) - wow

gabisa mod banyak, patternnya diulang2 terus :/
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum

genkicho wrote:

Hi


Vocal song? :/
Coeur Brise
00:12:839 (12839|1,12839|0,12889|2,12889|3,12939|1,12939|0,13039|2,13039|3,13089|1,13089|0,13139|3,13139|2,13239|0,13239|1,13289|3,13289|2,13339|0,13339|1,13389|2,13389|3,13439|0,13439|1,13489|3,13489|2) - wow wew
00:18:439 (18439|0,18539|0,18639|3,18739|3,18839|0,18939|0,19039|3,19139|3,19239|1,19339|1,19439|2,19539|2,19639|0,19739|0) -knapa minijack buat closing, sama ngikutin piano
00:25:639 (25639|2,25639|3,25839|3,25839|2,25939|3,25939|2) - wow wew
00:50:439 (50439|1,50439|0,50489|3,50489|2,50539|0,50539|1,50589|3,50589|2,50639|0,50639|1,50739|3,50739|2,50839|0,50839|1,50939|0,50939|1,51039|3,51039|2,51089|1,51089|0,51139|3,51139|2,51239|0,51239|1,51339|3,51339|2,51389|0,51389|1,51439|3,51439|2,51539|1,51539|0,51639|3,51639|2) - wow wew
01:15:639 (75639|3,75739|3,75839|3,75939|3,76039|3) - wpw wew
01:25:639 (85639|3,85639|2,85839|3,85839|2,86039|2,86039|3,86239|2,86239|3,86339|3,86339|2,86539|3,86539|2) - wow wew

gabisa mod banyak, patternnya diulang2 terus :/ tbf, lagunya juga gitu gitu aja
I don't know if you're in awe or disappointment :d but just in case- those jacks and 1/8 burst are perfectly playable, and the map is built around it so it's not out of place.

idk if I should give kd to this since you didn't really suggested anything, so I chose not to.

Davin Fortune wrote:

Let's see

Insane
00:08:039 - 2 note, just let the high piano that marked as 2 note, the one which has higher pitch like 00:07:639 - that is higher than 00:07:239 - i think just keep it in one note , this just kind of suggestion which will make less 2 note in the stream but keep the existence of 2 notes in it, you also can do the reversionary of my opinion(kebalikannya)
00:08:839 - ^
00:09:639 - ^
00:10:439 - ^
00:11:239 - ^
00:12:039 - ^
00:12:439 - make it 1 note, asking this based on upper mod
I don't think so. Pianonya itu juga segaris ama kick. Kalo gua mapnya kaya gitu, intensitynya jadi sama kayak chorusnya. Gua ngasih double ke yang itu karena bukan bagian dari stream.

00:14:139 (14139|1) - ghost (use 50%)
Listen closer.

00:14:839 - make it 3 note pls, it has higher pitch than 00:14:439 (14439|0,14439|1,14639|1,14639|3) -
I don't map pitch=more notes. I map based on both the amount of sound and sound intensity in mind.

00:14:539 (14539|2,14739|0) - and i'm not really sure about
hm? overmap maksudnya? coba dengerin pake headset dua deh, soalnya suara streamnya lebih keras di headset kiri.

Nanti malam lanjutin okay, entar bikin post baru lagi aja
Thanks!
Davin Fortune
I don't want feedback much due to my last mod's reply, since it's kinda make me little dissapointed with your reply
first people always hear the sound use left and right headset dude

Insane
00:18:439 (18439|2,18439|0,18639|3,18639|2,18839|1,18839|0,19039|3,19039|0,19239|3,19239|2,19439|2,19439|0,19639|1,19639|0,19839|2,19839|3,19939|0,19939|1) - guess this part should be inserted stream pattern too since it has no much different than the stream one
00:26:439 - Thinking about to make stream here since you take the background sound at the beginning partDo it until 00:32:639 -
00:33:439 (33439|0) - i think this note should be place in 00:33:239 - , it's better this note take the piano sound , do it until 00:37:639 -
02:52:439 - ^
03:35:439 (215439|2,215439|1,215639|1,215639|0,216039|0,216439|2,216839|1,216839|0,217039|2,217039|1,217239|3,217239|2,217639|3,218039|1,218439|2,218439|0,218639|1,218639|2,218839|1,218839|3,219239|3,219639|2,220039|1,220039|3,220239|2,220239|1,220439|2,220439|0,220839|0,221239|1,221639|2,221639|3,222239|0,222439|3,222639|2,222839|1,223039|0,223239|2,223239|3,224039|1,224839|3) - why the 2 note and 1 note's sound isn't far, i mean they are similar, no increase or decrease in the piano sound that can help to differentiate them

Hard
fast mod~
00:14:639 - it can't be 1 note, pay attention to the pitch, it has lower than 00:14:439 - or if you want focus 00:14:839 (14839|1,14839|2) - as the finish beat then make 00:14:439 (14439|0,14439|1,14639|0,14639|2) - into 1 note
00:18:839 - Think about make like this to avoid monotone pattern
00:52:039 (52039|3,52039|2,52039|1,52239|3,52239|2,52439|3,52439|2,52639|0,52639|1,52839|3,52839|2,53039|3) - you better avoid this kind of pattern which you used in Cour Brise Pattern and this kind pattern is seldom appear in this diff so suggest to rearrange it
00:56:039 (56039|1,56039|0,56239|1,56439|3,56439|2,56639|2) - kind of sudden minijack
01:17:439 (77439|3,78239|0) - this kinda note make this part has no stop which will make player lost stamina faster, suggest delete them
03:10:039 (190039|0,190039|3,190039|1) - i find these timeline is inserted with this hs which only appear once in the map, suggest remove the hs
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum

Davin Fortune wrote:

I don't want feedback much due to my last mod's reply, since it's kinda make me little dissapointed with your reply dont worry too much about that, people always feel down when their suggestion got shot down.
first people always hear the sound use left and right headset dude

Insane
00:18:439 (18439|2,18439|0,18639|3,18639|2,18839|1,18839|0,19039|3,19039|0,19239|3,19239|2,19439|2,19439|0,19639|1,19639|0,19839|2,19839|3,19939|0,19939|1) - guess this part should be inserted stream pattern too since it has no much different than the stream one
I do think about putting that, however that part is not the same as before because the piano is continuous, unlike the part before which is one-two-three-pause-one-two-three-pause. So, I want to give emphasis and exposure on that continuous piano line.

00:26:439 - Thinking about to make stream here since you take the background sound at the beginning partDo it until 00:32:639 -
That part in the beginning is used to introduce that this is a stream map, while the one after that is a break from the stream. I don't want to map the whole thing in stream like I did in the highest diff.

00:33:439 (33439|0) - i think this note should be place in 00:33:239 - , it's better this note take the piano sound , do it until 00:37:639 -
will think about it.

02:52:439 - ^
I will add it on this one

03:35:439 (215439|2,215439|1,215639|1,215639|0,216039|0,216439|2,216839|1,216839|0,217039|2,217039|1,217239|3,217239|2,217639|3,218039|1,218439|2,218439|0,218639|1,218639|2,218839|1,218839|3,219239|3,219639|2,220039|1,220039|3,220239|2,220239|1,220439|2,220439|0,220839|0,221239|1,221639|2,221639|3,222239|0,222439|3,222639|2,222839|1,223039|0,223239|2,223239|3,224039|1,224839|3) - why the 2 note and 1 note's sound isn't far, i mean they are similar, no increase or decrease in the piano sound that can help to differentiate them
There is. the two notes represent chords pressed in the actual piano, while the one note represents the single note pressed in the actual piano.

Hard
fast mod~
00:14:639 - it can't be 1 note, pay attention to the pitch, it has lower than 00:14:439 - or if you want focus 00:14:839 (14839|1,14839|2) - as the finish beat then make 00:14:439 (14439|0,14439|1,14639|0,14639|2) - into 1 note
as I said earlier, I don't map based on pitch.

00:18:839 - Think about make like this to avoid monotone pattern
the pattern there is indeed a bit boring, but I don't want to bring ln in and sacrifice the note amount there. Will think about it.

00:52:039 (52039|3,52039|2,52039|1,52239|3,52239|2,52439|3,52439|2,52639|0,52639|1,52839|3,52839|2,53039|3) - you better avoid this kind of pattern which you used in Cour Brise Pattern and this kind pattern is seldom appear in this diff so suggest to rearrange it
00:56:039 (56039|1,56039|0,56239|1,56439|3,56439|2,56639|2) - kind of sudden minijack
I don't think it's really a problem, since it's a very low bpm.

01:17:439 (77439|3,78239|0) - this kinda note make this part has no stop which will make player lost stamina faster, suggest delete them
Well, that part is meant to be denser than most of the map, so I will keep it.

03:10:039 (190039|0,190039|3,190039|1) - i find these timeline is inserted with this hs which only appear once in the map, suggest remove the hs
eh, that hs is meant for that specific part. same goes with other diffs.
Thanks again!
aevin

Hello

NM from my queue!

[o!mania] deetsiu's queue! [NM & M4M & GD]


1,2,3,4



Normal
00:12:039 (12039|0) - Move to 3
00:41:239 (41239|3,41639|1) - Ctrl + G
00:43:439 (43439|1) - Move to 3
01:41:639 (101639|2,102039|1) - Ctrl + G
02:51:439 (171439|1) - Move to 3

Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum
no reply means considered or applied

deetsiu wrote:

Hello

NM from my queue!

[o!mania] deetsiu's queue! [NM & M4M & GD]


1,2,3,4



Normal
00:12:039 (12039|0) - Move to 3

00:41:239 (41239|3,41639|1) - Ctrl + G
It's a mirror to 00:39:639 (39639|0,40039|2) -

00:43:439 (43439|1) - Move to 3
mirror of 00:42:439 (42439|0,42639|1,42839|3) -

01:41:639 (101639|2,102039|1) - Ctrl + G
why tho

02:51:439 (171439|1) - Move to 3

thanks for mod
genkicho
Ingame NM Request


Col 1 2 3 4

Coeur Brise
00:06:039 (6039|3) - move to 3, according to piano
00:06:239 (6239|2) - move to 4, according to piano
00:12:839 (12839|1,12839|0) - this part i think overmapped, i cant hear sound too or maybe volume too low, idk
00:18:439 how bout dis
00:45:639 (45639|2) - i suggest delete cuz you put LNs in this part, i looks bad.
00:47:239 (47239|0,47439|3,47639|1) - and 00:48:039 (48039|0,48239|3,48439|1) - different piano sound, i suggest different column. same like 01:50:439 (110439|2) -
00:50:439 (50439|1,50439|0) - this part idk why so many notes :( maybe my laptop speaker kinda bad (?)
01:01:039 (61039|3) - doubenote it
01:03:039 (63039|2) - ^
01:15:639 (75639|3,75739|3,75839|3,75939|3,76039|3) - i cant hear sound
01:20:839 make LN variation with 1/2 divisor like sec 18
01:33:639 i suggest apply to similar part. Note the vocal with 3 LNs
01:54:039 (114039|0,114039|1,114139|2,114139|3,114239|3,114239|2,114339|2,114339|3) - i think they all shouuld be in same col
02:42:439 how bout LN
02:44:839 (164839|2) - 02:45:639 (165639|3,166039|0) - have louder sound than normal piano, i think should be double like others
02:47:839 (167839|2) - cant really hear it, i suggest delete it. also song might lose epicness if low volume sounds in slow part are mapped
02:48:839 (168839|0) - doublenote it for piano
03:09:839 (189839|2) - i suggest delete, no sound plus for epicness
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum
no reply means fixed or considered

genkicho wrote:

Ingame NM Request


Col 1 2 3 4

Coeur Brise
00:06:039 (6039|3) - move to 3, according to piano
00:06:239 (6239|2) - move to 4, according to piano

00:12:839 (12839|1,12839|0) - this part i think overmapped, i cant hear sound too or maybe volume too low, idk
yeah listen closer

00:18:439 how bout dis
nah, I like jacks

00:45:639 (45639|2) - i suggest delete cuz you put LNs in this part, i looks bad.
LNs are the main focus on that section, so deleting it... nah

00:47:239 (47239|0,47439|3,47639|1) - and 00:48:039 (48039|0,48239|3,48439|1) - different piano sound, i suggest different column. same like 01:50:439 (110439|2) -

00:50:439 (50439|1,50439|0) - this part idk why so many notes :( maybe my laptop speaker kinda bad (?)
use an earphone

01:01:039 (61039|3) - doubenote it
01:03:039 (63039|2) - ^
fu- these are fatal

01:15:639 (75639|3,75739|3,75839|3,75939|3,76039|3) - i cant hear sound
use an earphone

01:20:839 make LN variation with 1/2 divisor like sec 18
nah, I like jacks

01:33:639 i suggest apply to similar part. Note the vocal with 3 LNs
LNs are extremely restrictive, I will only use them in specific parts

01:54:039 (114039|0,114039|1,114139|2,114139|3,114239|3,114239|2,114339|2,114339|3) - i think they all shouuld be in same col
I think so too, however there's this kick here 01:53:939 (113939|0,113939|1,114039|1,114039|0) -

02:42:439 how bout LN
I will think about it, however I liked it as is. It represents a very calm section without the need to do extra work like holding and releasing ln at the right time.

02:44:839 (164839|2) - 02:45:639 (165639|3,166039|0) - have louder sound than normal piano, i think should be double like others

02:47:839 (167839|2) - cant really hear it, i suggest delete it. also song might lose epicness if low volume sounds in slow part are mapped
it might be faint, however I still think it's worth mapping.

02:48:839 (168839|0) - doublenote it for piano
I double here for kicks

03:09:839 (189839|2) - i suggest delete, no sound plus for epicness
Use an earphone, there is a very clear bass here
thanks for mod and the star~
dkingo
Hello a rough mod, the map is overall good, so it won't be long.

mod
[General]
  1. No kiai in the first and second chorus?
  2. Pleace disable countdown
[Coeur Brise]
  1. 01:04:439 (64439|3,64439|2,64539|2,64539|3,64639|3,64639|2,64739|3,64739|2) - I think it would be better if you move some notes to the left
  2. 01:28:439 (88439|0,88439|1,88539|1,88539|0,88639|0,88639|1,88739|0,88739|1) - ^
  3. 01:32:239 (92239|3) - Move to col 3
  4. 03:06:639 (186639|2,186639|3,186739|3,186739|2,186839|2,186839|3,186939|3,186939|2,187039|3,187039|2) - I don't think hack is a good choice...
  5. 03:28:239 (208239|2,208239|3,208339|3,208339|2,208439|2,208439|3,208539|2,208539|3,208639|3,208639|2,208739|3,208739|2) - That is too much...
  6. 03:45:639 - Add a note

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum
No reply means considered or fixed

dkingo wrote:

Hello a rough mod, the map is overall good, so it won't be long.

mod
[General]
  1. No kiai in the first and second chorus? // I feel like the chorus is not strong enough for a kiai. Mainly because of the continuous 1/4 hi hats. There's barely a contrast between the weaker and stronger part, except for 02:56:839 - onward~
  2. Pleace disable countdown
[Coeur Brise]
  1. 01:04:439 (64439|3,64439|2,64539|2,64539|3,64639|3,64639|2,64739|3,64739|2) - I think it would be better if you move some notes to the left // It's the same sound, I think the way I mapped it is the most appropriate.
  2. 01:28:439 (88439|0,88439|1,88539|1,88539|0,88639|0,88639|1,88739|0,88739|1) - ^ // ^
  3. 01:32:239 (92239|3) - Move to col 3 // intentional, see 01:28:839 (88839|3,89039|3,89239|3,89439|3) - 01:29:639 (89639|1,89839|1,90039|1,90239|1) - 01:30:439 (90439|2,90639|2,90839|2,91039|2) - 01:31:239 (91239|0,91439|0,91639|0,91839|0) - etc
  4. 03:06:639 (186639|2,186639|3,186739|3,186739|2,186839|2,186839|3,186939|3,186939|2,187039|3,187039|2) - I don't think hack is a good choice... // same as point one
  5. 03:28:239 (208239|2,208239|3,208339|3,208339|2,208439|2,208439|3,208539|2,208539|3,208639|3,208639|2,208739|3,208739|2) - That is too much... // ^
  6. 03:45:639 - Add a note // hm, I feel like it's not strong enough to be two notes

Good luck~
thanks for the mod!
Moku_Hazushi
(From my modding queue)

Hey there, sorry you posted the request like 2 weeks ago and the modding comes only now :c
I really like this song so yeah i somehow spend more time than expected on the modding, to the point that its 1am here and im already super tired xD

Sorry i wont mod the Coeur Brise diff, its too late here but if you really find my mods useful i can take a look at it this week-end, just pm me. I playtested it, and except all the chords jack there are some patterns that are really close to the Insane diff so in fake maybe you can already take some material from this mod to improve this last diff, dunno.

As i always say, just change your map if you 120% agree with what i said, you know what you intended to do with your map better than me :p

So yeah i really enjoyed playing your map and modding it so i wish you the best for getting it rank :3

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Global


After a first testplay it seems to be a good map can wait to mod it :3

But anyway, why are you cuting the end kiais so much ? Aimod complains a lot for those small kiais i think you should merge them.

About the hitsounding, ill try to spot if there are mistakes but since its already great i will try to focus on the mapping first ;3

Lets go to the mod~

Normal


00:10:839 (10839|3) - Maybe move it to (2) to keep the symetric of 00:09:639 (9639|3,9839|2,10039|1)

00:13:039 (13039|0) - Id move it to (4) and
00:13:239 (13239|1) - to (2), jacks are also a way to map the drum without going faster

From 00:13:639 to 00:26:439 there no real mistake in the mapping but its a bit monotonous, the following are some suggestions i think could make this part more fun to play :

For the moments like 00:14:039 i would suggest using those kind of LN pattern. This way it differenciates a bit the piano triplets mapping from the remainding


(you can use it at 00:15:639 + 00:17:239 after that this is the second half of this part)

00:19:639 - Would go for a double here and
00:19:839 (19839|0) - Remove this

After that i think you can keep the current mapping, at least it added a contrast between the first part with LNs and the second with simple notes

00:32:839 (32839|0) - I would have seen this LN at (2) to echo with 00:32:239 (32239|2,32439|1) following the piano who goes with high-low high-low notes (but that would mean changing many notes of the surrounding)

00:44:039 (44039|2,44239|3) - CTRL+G those to, we dont want 00:44:039 (44039|2) to be connected with the previous stair because you start a new pattern after

At 00:57:239 i would re-use the same LNs you did at 00:52:439 (52439|0,52839|3) first because it would give more sense instead of having random LNs at the beginning of this part, and second to add variation in the surrounding patterns.

00:58:639 (58639|3) - Would move it to (0), the jack can go well with the bass
01:05:039 (65039|3) - Move to (2) for the same reasons

01:05:039 (65039|3) - As 00:57:239 its a good place to re-use LNs

01:11:439 (71439|3) - Move to (2) for a jack again, same reasons as 00:58:639 (58639|3)

Ok same from 01:54:439 to 02:20:039 we need to find a way to make the mapping more entertaining here is what i suggest :

For the triplets
01:56:839 (116839|2,117039|0,117239|1) +
02:01:639 (121639|1,121839|3,122039|2) +
02:03:239 (123239|2,123439|1,123639|3) +
02:09:639 (129639|0,129839|2,130039|1) +
02:14:439 (134439|2,134639|1,134839|3) +
02:16:039 (136039|1,136239|0,136439|2) +
They all happens when the singing does a short pause, i suggest removing the middle note (on red tick) and use double on both the first and last note (white ticks) for each of those triplet
I tried and it raises the star rating to 1.77 so as you want

02:46:439 (166439|3) - Move it to (2) sould be connected with the following

03:13:239 (193239|2,193439|3) - I think i would CTR+G this for the alternate that suggest the bass

For the following triplets
03:12:039 (192039|2,192239|1,192439|3) +
03:16:839 (196839|2,197039|1,197239|0) +
03:24:839 (204839|2,205039|3,205239|1) - If you agreed with the previous suggestion around 01:54:439 you should use it here too

03:43:239 (223239|3) - Would move it to (2) so the 03:44:839 (224839|3) at (3) goes well with the piano going even higher

So first difficulty i modded, and im really impressed by the hitsouding - great job. About the mapping, its really clean but lack of originally for certain part and could be more fun sometime i think.

Hard


At 00:12:039 im not sure all the next double are justified, i think you can insert some small LNs instead for something like this (plus it goes well with the following LNs)



(yes i know another full suggestion xD) At 00:19:239 i would go for the following mapping to recall the LNs at 00:12:839 (12839|0,13039|3,13239|0) :



00:23:039 (23039|1) - Would move it to (3) to keep the symetric like you did previously

00:40:239 (40239|0) - Would move it to (3) and
00:40:639 (40639|3) - To (2), just to make it a bit different than 00:41:639 (41639|2,41639|0,41839|3,42039|1,42039|2,42239|0)

01:11:039 (71039|2,71139|1) - CTRL+H this to have the jack going well with the drum

01:21:639 - Same remark as 00:19:239 for the LNs

01:44:839 - You introduced a LN pattern with 01:41:639 (101639|1,101839|2) + 01:43:239 (103239|2,103439|1), and therefore at this point i think you should continue with LNs until 01:43:239 (103239|2,103439|1) to keep consistency and add variation

01:49:639 (109639|2,109639|0,109839|2,109839|1,110039|3,110039|1) - Maybe CTRL+H this one, its already nice to have that small changes after insisting of the same direction with the same pattern

01:58:539 - Not sure at all, but i was thinking of adding a note here to match the bass and add some variation
02:12:539 - Same here

At 02:34:839 i would go for the following mapping. The 1/4 note just before is for the bass, the 2 LNs contrast because we dont have that jack patterns going on the bass too and announce the following LNs :



03:05:639 (185639|1,187239|1) - I would remove those 2 since there is no drum playing here

03:09:639 (189639|3) - At (2) we need the jack for the bass

03:14:939 +
03:24:939 - Same as 01:58:539 about adding a note for the bass

Good difficulty again, great use of some jacks patterns during kiai time and many interesting patterns nice :3

Insane


00:06:239 (6239|3) - I think you can move it to (1), i know it makes lot of notes on the left side but the jack goes so well

00:18:339 (18339|1) - Would move it to (2) and
00:18:439 (18439|2) - To (1), to have a consistent double trill

And for the same reason
00:19:239 (19239|2) - To (1)
00:19:639 (19639|1,19639|0) - becomes (1,3)

00:20:839 (20839|2) - Would move it to (0) to go with the bass and therefore
00:20:939 (20939|0) - Move it to (2)

00:22:239 (22239|2) - To (3)
00:22:339 (22339|1) - To (2) for the same reasons as above

00:41:139 (41139|2) - To (1) and
00:41:239 (41239|1) - To (2), its a bit weird to have that 00:41:139 (41139|2,41239|1,41339|0,41439|1,41539|2,41639|3) stair

00:44:039 +
00:44:839 +
00:45:639 +
00:46:439 +
00:47:239 - For those i think you should try to find a LN pattern to contrast with the surrounding, maybe something like that for 00:44:039. Always consecutive LNs to go with the singing.



00:54:439 - Would go for a triple here
00:54:539 (54539|1,54739|3) - Remove those 2 and
00:54:639 - Double here, as usual its to add variation otherwise it becomes a bit too monotonous
+
00:59:239 +
01:07:239 +
01:13:639 +
01:12:039 - Same idea

01:34:839 (94839|3) - Why not at (2) to keep with those 4 jack on same column

01:50:639 (110639|1) - Maybe move it at (0) to recall the space with 01:50:139 (110139|0,110239|2)

02:20:339 (140339|2) - I would remove this one, just to give a small breath before re-starting the jump stream pattern

From 02:25:639 to 02:26:439 - I suggest you use only 1/4 chords (with some triples). Again just to avoid being too monotonous

02:39:539 (159539|2) - Maybe remove this and
02:39:439 - add double there

03:00:239 (180239|2,180339|1,180439|0) - Maybe you can change this to (0,1,2) instead since you were using that full stair before
03:00:839 (180839|2,180939|1,181039|0) - Same

03:04:039 (184039|2,185639|0) - Would remove those 2, it doesnt really match with the drum

03:12:139 (192139|3,192339|0) - Would remove those 2 and
03:12:239 - Add double here, always to add variation

03:43:239 (223239|3,223239|2) - Move it to (1,2) since 03:44:839 (224839|3) is even higher on the piano

Except some patterns being somehow always the same, the mapping is really clean, also orignal ideas during some parts, great mapping of the battery and still awsome hitsounding. Also that SV at 03:10:039 was super funny, i really enjoyed playing it owo)b
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum
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Moku_Hazushi wrote:

(From my modding queue)

Hey there, sorry you posted the request like 2 weeks ago and the modding comes only now :c
I really like this song so yeah i somehow spend more time than expected on the modding, to the point that its 1am here and im already super tired xD

Sorry i wont mod the Coeur Brise diff, its too late here but if you really find my mods useful i can take a look at it this week-end, just pm me. I playtested it, and except all the chords jack there are some patterns that are really close to the Insane diff so in fake maybe you can already take some material from this mod to improve this last diff, dunno.

As i always say, just change your map if you 120% agree with what i said, you know what you intended to do with your map better than me :p

So yeah i really enjoyed playing your map and modding it so i wish you the best for getting it rank :3

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Global


After a first testplay it seems to be a good map can wait to mod it :3

But anyway, why are you cuting the end kiais so much ? Aimod complains a lot for those small kiais i think you should merge them. // you can clearly see why. it's to mark between the crash.

About the hitsounding, ill try to spot if there are mistakes but since its already great i will try to focus on the mapping first ;3

Lets go to the mod~

Normal


00:10:839 (10839|3) - Maybe move it to (2) to keep the symetric of 00:09:639 (9639|3,9839|2,10039|1) // nah, no other part before is even symmetrical. even if I want to make it symmetrical, it should be between 00:10:439 - and 00:11:239 - . actually, I will do that.

00:13:039 (13039|0) - Id move it to (4) and 00:13:239 (13239|1) - to (2), jacks are also a way to map the drum without going faster // I think I won't do that, because i'm going with pitch here.

From 00:13:639 to 00:26:439 there no real mistake in the mapping but its a bit monotonous, the following are some suggestions i think could make this part more fun to play :

For the moments like 00:14:039 i would suggest using those kind of LN pattern. This way it differenciates a bit the piano triplets mapping from the remainding


(you can use it at 00:15:639 + 00:17:239 after that this is the second half of this part) // I agree it's a bit boring, however I don't want to add lots of double notes and boost the sr up. Might consider it tho.

00:19:639 - Would go for a double here and // I think I won't. I'm using doubles strictly for crashes.
00:19:839 (19839|0) - Remove this // mapping piano

After that i think you can keep the current mapping, at least it added a contrast between the first part with LNs and the second with simple notes

00:32:839 (32839|0) - I would have seen this LN at (2) to echo with 00:32:239 (32239|2,32439|1) following the piano who goes with high-low high-low notes (but that would mean changing many notes of the surrounding) // uuh I don't get it

00:44:039 (44039|2,44239|3) - CTRL+G those to, we dont want 00:44:039 (44039|2) to be connected with the previous stair because you start a new pattern after wew

At 00:57:239 i would re-use the same LNs you did at 00:52:439 (52439|0,52839|3) first because it would give more sense instead of having random LNs at the beginning of this part, and second to add variation in the surrounding patterns.
00:58:639 (58639|3) - Would move it to (0), the jack can go well with the bass
01:05:039 (65039|3) - Move to (2) for the same reasons
01:05:039 (65039|3) - As 00:57:239 its a good place to re-use LNs
01:11:439 (71439|3) - Move to (2) for a jack again, same reasons as 00:58:639 (58639|3) // That's not random. I'm using lns there because of the "muffled" sound there (I hope you can understand what I meant). I will consider it. I accept all your jack suggestions tho

Ok same from 01:54:439 to 02:20:039 we need to find a way to make the mapping more entertaining here is what i suggest :

For the triplets
01:56:839 (116839|2,117039|0,117239|1) +
02:01:639 (121639|1,121839|3,122039|2) +
02:03:239 (123239|2,123439|1,123639|3) +
02:09:639 (129639|0,129839|2,130039|1) +
02:14:439 (134439|2,134639|1,134839|3) +
02:16:039 (136039|1,136239|0,136439|2) +
They all happens when the singing does a short pause, i suggest removing the middle note (on red tick) and use double on both the first and last note (white ticks) for each of those triplet
I tried and it raises the star rating to 1.77 so as you want // eeh that's kind of big and I want to keep the difficulty numbers like that lol. will consider it.

02:46:439 (166439|3) - Move it to (2) sould be connected with the following

03:13:239 (193239|2,193439|3) - I think i would CTR+G this for the alternate that suggest the bass

For the following triplets
03:12:039 (192039|2,192239|1,192439|3) +
03:16:839 (196839|2,197039|1,197239|0) +
03:24:839 (204839|2,205039|3,205239|1) - If you agreed with the previous suggestion around 01:54:439 you should use it here too

03:43:239 (223239|3) - Would move it to (2) so the 03:44:839 (224839|3) at (3) goes well with the piano going even higher

So first difficulty i modded, and im really impressed by the hitsouding - great job. About the mapping, its really clean but lack of originally for certain part and could be more fun sometime i think.

Hard


At 00:12:039 im not sure all the next double are justified, i think you can insert some small LNs instead for something like this (plus it goes well with the following LNs) // I think it's okay as is. It's to emphasize the piano



(yes i know another full suggestion xD) At 00:19:239 i would go for the following mapping to recall the LNs at 00:12:839 (12839|0,13039|3,13239|0) :
// ^



00:23:039 (23039|1) - Would move it to (3) to keep the symetric like you did previously

00:40:239 (40239|0) - Would move it to (3) and
00:40:639 (40639|3) - To (2), just to make it a bit different than 00:41:639 (41639|2,41639|0,41839|3,42039|1,42039|2,42239|0) // it's actually a flip

01:11:039 (71039|2,71139|1) - CTRL+H this to have the jack going well with the drum

01:21:639 - Same remark as 00:19:239 for the LNs same

01:44:839 - You introduced a LN pattern with 01:41:639 (101639|1,101839|2) + 01:43:239 (103239|2,103439|1), and therefore at this point i think you should continue with LNs until 01:43:239 (103239|2,103439|1) to keep consistency and add variation // I did the ln because 01:42:039 (102039|3,102039|0) - sounds like a full stop. If I were to add it in that other section, it would not fit imo because they keep flowing.

01:49:639 (109639|2,109639|0,109839|2,109839|1,110039|3,110039|1) - Maybe CTRL+H this one, its already nice to have that small changes after insisting of the same direction with the same pattern // sound pattern changes at 01:50:439 - so I wont change the one you mentioned

01:58:539 - Not sure at all, but i was thinking of adding a note here to match the bass and add some variation
02:12:539 - Same here I don't think it's strong enough to make it worth mapping.

At 02:34:839 i would go for the following mapping. The 1/4 note just before is for the bass, the 2 LNs contrast because we dont have that jack patterns going on the bass too and announce the following LNs :



03:05:639 (185639|1,187239|1) - I would remove those 2 since there is no drum playing here // I did that to fill in the white tick, because it felt weird for me to leave it out lol

03:09:639 (189639|3) - At (2) we need the jack for the bass

03:14:939 +
03:24:939 - Same as 01:58:539 about adding a note for the bass // same

Good difficulty again, great use of some jacks patterns during kiai time and many interesting patterns nice :3

Insane


00:06:239 (6239|3) - I think you can move it to (1), i know it makes lot of notes on the left side but the jack goes so well // Eh

00:18:339 (18339|1) - Would move it to (2) and
00:18:439 (18439|2) - To (1), to have a consistent double trill // I don't intend it to be a double trill

And for the same reason
00:19:239 (19239|2) - To (1)
00:19:639 (19639|1,19639|0) - becomes (1,3) // ^

00:20:839 (20839|2) - Would move it to (0) to go with the bass and therefore
00:20:939 (20939|0) - Move it to (2) // I don't see why I should move that. And if I did, I have to revise the whole pattern too lol

00:22:239 (22239|2) - To (3)
00:22:339 (22339|1) - To (2) for the same reasons as above // ah, I guess you meant the actual bass, not the bass kick? Well, I don't map according to the bass, so might consider it later.

00:41:139 (41139|2) - To (1) and
00:41:239 (41239|1) - To (2), its a bit weird to have that 00:41:139 (41139|2,41239|1,41339|0,41439|1,41539|2,41639|3) stair

00:44:039 +
00:44:839 +
00:45:639 +
00:46:439 +
00:47:239 - For those i think you should try to find a LN pattern to contrast with the surrounding, maybe something like that for 00:44:039. Always consecutive LNs to go with the singing. // reason below*



00:54:439 - Would go for a triple here why tho. The only other places where I use a triple are crashes
00:54:539 (54539|1,54739|3) - Remove those 2 and
00:54:639 - Double here, as usual its to add variation otherwise it becomes a bit too monotonous
+
00:59:239 +
01:07:239 +
01:13:639 +
01:12:039 - Same idea
// breaking the stream there seems weird to me.

01:34:839 (94839|3) - Why not at (2) to keep with those 4 jack on same column // because the bass changes pitch here 01:34:839 -

01:50:639 (110639|1) - Maybe move it at (0) to recall the space with 01:50:139 (110139|0,110239|2) // what

02:20:339 (140339|2) - I would remove this one, just to give a small breath before re-starting the jump stream pattern

From 02:25:639 to 02:26:439 - I suggest you use only 1/4 chords (with some triples). Again just to avoid being too monotonous // what

02:39:539 (159539|2) - Maybe remove this and
02:39:439 - add double there // If i'm going to put that, then I have to also put that in all other places too. It's weird to have that specific place emphasized while the others are not

03:00:239 (180239|2,180339|1,180439|0) - Maybe you can change this to (0,1,2) instead since you were using that full stair before
03:00:839 (180839|2,180939|1,181039|0) - Same // ehh I like it as is

03:04:039 (184039|2,185639|0) - Would remove those 2, it doesnt really match with the drum // what

03:12:139 (192139|3,192339|0) - Would remove those 2 and
03:12:239 - Add double here, always to add variation // same as earlier

03:43:239 (223239|3,223239|2) - Move it to (1,2) since 03:44:839 (224839|3) is even higher on the piano

Except some patterns being somehow always the same, the mapping is really clean, also orignal ideas during some parts, great mapping of the battery and still awsome hitsounding. Also that SV at 03:10:039 was super funny, i really enjoyed playing it owo)b
*sorry if I sounded lazy or very conservative, however every time you said "add ln there", I went "asdfghjkl I hate lns, I want to use them as little as possible, they ruin the patterns I tried to make" so I have to turn down most of your ln suggestion!

alright, thanks for modding.
Arzenvald
wao l33t 300 bpm
these are suggestion, i love the structure in Extra, the jack could be polished though

[Extra]
00:19:439 (19439|3,19639|3,19839|3) - 01:21:839 (81839|1,82039|1,82239|1) - this anchor could be avoided

click
00:50:739 (50739|1,50739|0,50839|3,50839|2,50939|2,51039|0,51039|1,51089|3,51089|2,51139|1,51139|0,51239|3,51239|2,51339|1,51339|0,51389|2,51389|3,51439|0,51439|1,51539|2,51539|3,51589|0,51589|1,51639|2,51639|3) -
i'd ctrl+H this to avoid 4 jacks between these 1/8, less painful but still relevant through the pitch

00:54:439 (54439|1,54539|2,54639|1) - 01:00:839 (60839|2,60939|3,61039|1) - 01:07:239 (67239|1,67339|0,67439|1) - its quiet reasonable to make doubles here, the piano pitch is quiet dominant owo
01:56:839 (116839|2,116939|3,117039|2) - 02:03:239 (123239|3,123339|2,123439|1) - 02:09:639 (129639|1,129739|0,129839|2) - 02:16:039 (136039|1,136139|2,136239|1) -

00:55:139 (55139|1,55239|0,55339|1,55439|0,55539|1,55639|0,55739|1) - unless intended i can't see why its left biased

01:15:739 (75739|0,75839|0,75939|0) - in 2nd (index) finger? 01:15:639 (75639|1,76039|1) - these makes it looks uncomfortable

01:29:039 (89039|3) - right biased, doesn't looks reasonable tho compared with the next part in this section, i'd 01:29:139 (89139|2,89239|1,89339|2) - ctrl+H this

i believe the bass line (something like 02:34:439 (154439|1,156039|0,156239|2,156439|0,156639|1) - ) starts from 02:34:439 (154439|1) -

02:56:839 (176839|0) - you overuse the SV here, better to consult with BN / QAT whether the kiai toggle is ok

03:06:639 (186639|2,186639|3,186739|3,186739|2,186839|2,186839|3,186939|3,186939|2,187039|3,187039|2) - i believe the jack placement could be more vary, using the piano pitch + snare sound, it'll looks more dynamic

03:10:039 (190039|3) - my impression about the last part, using same hand stream structure again?
except this 03:28:239 (208239|3,208339|3,208439|3,208539|3,208639|3,208739|3,208839|3) - long jack, the rest of the handstream are.. there's no build up, some kind of progression inside the structure, from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd chorus, while its correct, but i think the difficulty in the last part could be bumped up due the intensity of the song, creating a different & more intense diversity in the last part.
(its the climax part anyway, apologize if my expectation is kinda too high xP)

[Insane]
00:00:839 (839|1) - literal copy pasta with Extra smh

[Hard]
00:26:439 (26439|1) - literal copy pasta with Insane smh
01:04:639 (64639|0,64739|2,64839|1) - move it 3 2 1, make a trill to emphasis the drum
01:28:439 (88439|2,88539|1,88639|0,88739|2,88839|1) - ^ 2 3 2 3 1

i guess you can apply the same idea into different stream

[Normal]
is has no Uppercase
clean diff

good luck!
Topic Starter
Caput Mortuum
no reply means fixed or considered

Arzenvald wrote:

wao l33t 300 bpm
these are suggestion, i love the structure in Extra, the jack could be polished though

[Extra]
00:19:439 (19439|3,19639|3,19839|3) - 01:21:839 (81839|1,82039|1,82239|1) - this anchor could be avoided Yes, but I intentionally put it like that because they're in the same hand

click
00:50:739 (50739|1,50739|0,50839|3,50839|2,50939|2,51039|0,51039|1,51089|3,51089|2,51139|1,51139|0,51239|3,51239|2,51339|1,51339|0,51389|2,51389|3,51439|0,51439|1,51539|2,51539|3,51589|0,51589|1,51639|2,51639|3) -
i'd ctrl+H this to avoid 4 jacks between these 1/8, less painful but still relevant through the pitch

00:54:439 (54439|1,54539|2,54639|1) - 01:00:839 (60839|2,60939|3,61039|1) - 01:07:239 (67239|1,67339|0,67439|1) - its quiet reasonable to make doubles here, the piano pitch is quiet dominant owo
01:56:839 (116839|2,116939|3,117039|2) - 02:03:239 (123239|3,123339|2,123439|1) - 02:09:639 (129639|1,129739|0,129839|2) - 02:16:039 (136039|1,136139|2,136239|1) - ah yes, i'll think about it

00:55:139 (55139|1,55239|0,55339|1,55439|0,55539|1,55639|0,55739|1) - unless intended i can't see why its left biased I cried everytime I see that unintentional bit. Somehow got it fixed, but idk if it will create more problems

01:15:739 (75739|0,75839|0,75939|0) - in 2nd (index) finger? 01:15:639 (75639|1,76039|1) - these makes it looks uncomfortable Personally, I'd rather hit jacks with my middle finger. It's only a matter of preference I guess

01:29:039 (89039|3) - right biased, doesn't looks reasonable tho compared with the next part in this section, i'd 01:29:139 (89139|2,89239|1,89339|2) - ctrl+H this

i believe the bass line (something like 02:34:439 (154439|1,156039|0,156239|2,156439|0,156639|1) - ) starts from 02:34:439 (154439|1) - yes, however I prefer to map it starting at the next finish. imo it gives bigger emphasis to it

02:56:839 (176839|0) - you overuse the SV here, better to consult with BN / QAT whether the kiai toggle is ok ayy lamo

03:06:639 (186639|2,186639|3,186739|3,186739|2,186839|2,186839|3,186939|3,186939|2,187039|3,187039|2) - i believe the jack placement could be more vary, using the piano pitch + snare sound, it'll looks more dynamic maybe, but I really like the current one

03:10:039 (190039|3) - my impression about the last part, using same hand stream structure again?
except this 03:28:239 (208239|3,208339|3,208439|3,208539|3,208639|3,208739|3,208839|3) - long jack, the rest of the handstream are.. there's no build up, some kind of progression inside the structure, from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd chorus, while its correct, but i think the difficulty in the last part could be bumped up due the intensity of the song, creating a different & more intense diversity in the last part.
(its the climax part anyway, apologize if my expectation is kinda too high xP) I'll maybe think of some way to ramp up the difficulty a bit more.

[Insane]
00:00:839 (839|1) - literal copy pasta with Extra smh hey it fits

[Hard]
00:26:439 (26439|1) - literal copy pasta with Insane smh hey it fits
01:04:639 (64639|0,64739|2,64839|1) - move it 3 2 1, make a trill to emphasis the drum
01:28:439 (88439|2,88539|1,88639|0,88739|2,88839|1) - ^ 2 3 2 3 1

i guess you can apply the same idea into different stream

[Normal]
is has no Uppercase b-but all diff is in lowercase ,_,
clean diff

good luck!
thanks for modding!
Arzenvald
i can see this for ranked tbh, good luck >w<)/
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Caput Mortuum
Soon, I hope c; Thanks for the star!
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