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Megiddo & ILLusionist - Over My Shoulder

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Topic Starter
Tony
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, December 29, 2012 at 9:21:24 PM

Artist: Megiddo & ILLusionist
Title: Over My Shoulder
Tags: kazumikos -kevincela-
BPM: 83
Filesize: 4009kb
Play Time: 01:49
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.87 stars, 240 notes)
  2. kazumi's Normal (3.04 stars, 127 notes)
  3. kevin's Easy (2.21 stars, 103 notes)
Download: Megiddo & ILLusionist - Over My Shoulder
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Check the song's creator Youtube Channel Here!
You can get the CTB diff made by Static Noise Bird by clicking ----> HERE!!!

I have an university classmate. and he's a composer/producer.
This song is a masterpiece

Instrumentals on 1/3 and vocals on 1/4. Sexy, huh?

special thanks to kazumikos and to -kevincela ~ <3
-kevincela-
o/

SPOILER
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 75149
Countdown: 0
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StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Over My Shoulder
TitleUnicode:Over My Shoulder
Artist:Megiddo & ILLusionist
ArtistUnicode:Megiddo & ILLusionist
Creator:Tony
Version:-kevincela-'s Easy
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:181334
BeatmapSetID:60678

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Topic Starter
Tony
thx kevincela <3
MoodyRPG
Hey.

General
  1. The mp3 bitrate is 320 kb/s. It needs to be 128-192. Find someone to re-encode it for you
-kevincela-'s Easy
  • - 00:50:616 (2) - Try to move up this slider? Looks a little off-screen in my opinion
    - 01:15:194 - 01:20:616 - Uhm what happend with this part man, these sliders and notes are not correctly snapped.
kazumi's Normal
  • -- You forgot to add in tags "-kevincela-" in my opinion
    - 01:17:122 (4) - Move this in the other tick
Hard
  • -- Why small circles?, reduce one tick in Circle Size
Check the map again because some sliders and notes are not snapped, good luck Tony :3
-kevincela-

MoodyRPG wrote:

-kevincela-'s Easy
  • - 00:50:616 (2) - Try to move up this slider? Looks a little off-screen in my opinion Okay
    - 01:15:194 - 01:20:616 - Uhm what happend with this part man, these sliders and notes are not correctly snapped. Must be Tony's error,as there wasn't a 0.80x inherited section there. Fixed
SPOILER
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Artist:Megiddo & ILLusionist
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Source:
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Topic Starter
Tony
thx Moody! all diffs updated :3
grumd
— Overall
  1. Offset felt a bit off. It should be 0, but don't change it, you'll have to change mp3 anyway.
  2. Your mp3 is 320kbps, it's unrankable.
  3. Your BG is 1024x682, that's not unrankable, but it creates black letterboxes that just don't look fine :c
  4. Normal has no tags and no preview time. Copy this stuff from other diffs.
— Settings
  1. Try AR+1 on Hard and HP-1 on Normal, this will make setting a bit more balanced imo. And AR8 on Hard fits such a fast Slider Velocity better. But well, I'm fine with both variants anyway.
Hard
  1. 00:19:036 - Placing this as a continuity of a slider feels better to me. It fits your overall style better. Also, try to add notes at 00:18:674 and 00:18:795-, that place feels empty.
  2. 00:20:120 (1,2) - Well, again. I don't really like when you place a circle in such an edgy way. Making a smooth line out of these would look prettier.
  3. 00:42:289 (5) - Usual curved slider looks much better. Just saying, if you like this one, leave it.
  4. I found out that placing finishes at some patterns fit guitar really good:
    1. 00:21:686 (2) - 00:22:409 (4) -
    2. 00:27:469 (2) - 00:28:192 (4) -
    3. 00:33:253 (1) - 00:33:975 (3) -
    4. 00:39:036 - 00:39:759 -
    5. You did it on your own in this pattern: 00:44:471 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - another reason to add it at similar places.
    6. 00:50:616 - 00:51:339 -
    7. 00:56:399 (1) - 00:57:122 (1) -
    8. 01:02:182 - 01:02:905 (4) -
    9. 01:07:965 (1,3) -
    10. 01:19:532 (1,1) -
  5. 01:21:339 (1) - In my opinion adding an extra reverse on this slider will fit the music better and will make 1/4 totally clear and fun to play. Try this:

  6. 01:36:881 - You miss a guitar sound here. End the slider at this point. If you apply this, you'll have an opportunity to place finishes at 01:36:881 and 01:37:604
  7. 01:40:014 (3,4,1,2) - Again what I said about smooth transition between slider and circle..
  8. 01:42:664 (2,4) - Finishes here, again to guitar.
  9. 01:48:447 - 01:49:170 - And here too.
  10. This applies to all diffs. Quite a meanstream suggestion, but try to add a spinner at the end of the map. End it at 01:52:785. This song is fading out, so silent spinner fits nicely. Additionally, this diff is really not hard so you will have plenty of SS scores. That's why I suggest a spinner for score differences.
Normal
  1. 00:37:242 (4) - Try to encircle it too.
  2. 00:47:905 (2) - It's snapped to 1/12, right? Bad idea.. It doesn't land on any beat. It should end at 00:48:086 and maybe start at 00:47:965 (that beat is quite tricky, can't get it's position). But anyway, short sliders sound quite bad and abrupt in this diff. If you want to emphasize this beat here, better use pattern like this one 01:16:279 (3,4) -
  3. 01:07:965 (1,2) - Just esthetically, rotate this 20° clockwise please.
  4. 01:26:399 - Add a note here, you miss pretty important sound in music and in common rhythm sense.
  5. 01:35:074 - Add a note here too, please. I hear plenty of stuff there, something like a synth and a bass and you know.
  6. 01:37:604 (2) - Continue this to 01:37:965. Ending this earlier makes no sense, there is not sound at that point. Earlier you did 01:20:254 (2) - but it lands on bass sound perfectly. Here we have no basses at 1/3, only some barely noticeable noise which doesn't worth emphasizing, so enlarge this to 1/2. It has a guitar sound at 01:37:785 - by the way, it's 1/4. So maybe you'd like to add a 1/4 triple here instead.
  7. 01:40:857 - Again add a note.
  8. 01:43:387 (3) - Same as above about 1/2 or 1/4.
  9. 01:49:170 (3) - Here again. If you turn 25 or 50% on, you'll hear that it's 1/4 , not 1/3.
Easy
  1. 00:28:568 - Lol, make it at least 30-40%! I could hear nothing, that's too quiet.
  2. 00:34:712 - I guess you forgot to turn custom hitsounds back on at this point? It's strange that you suddenly bring soft whistles in, while you used basses before. Though setting whistles at the guitar is a nice idea (I mean 00:33:267 (3,4) - )
  3. 00:57:483 (4) - Yea, after further testing I highly suggest 40%
  4. Also consider adding such whistle pattern (01:07:965 (3,4) - ) at following places:
    00:44:833 (2,3) - 00:50:616 (2) - 01:00:736 (1,2) - 01:18:086 (1,2) -
    I don't suggest to add it at places like 01:48:086 (2,3) - , where you miss one of the guitar notes on the middle of a long slider. That would bring kind of inconsistencies.
grumd
Hm, about mp3 and offset - probably I forgot to redl.
Topic Starter
Tony

grumd wrote:

Hm, about mp3 and offset - probably I forgot to redl.
I forgot to change it :3
kazumikos

grumd wrote:

Normal
  1. 00:37:242 (4) - Try to encircle it too. mmm this flow doesnt seem good to me
  2. 00:47:905 (2) - It's snapped to 1/12, right? Bad idea.. It doesn't land on any beat. It should end at 00:48:086 and maybe start at 00:47:965 (that beat is quite tricky, can't get it's position). But anyway, short sliders sound quite bad and abrupt in this diff. If you want to emphasize this beat here, better use pattern like this one 01:16:279 (3,4) - no it wasnt 1/12 hmm... it was 1/6 but i have no idea why it wasnt snapping o_O
  3. 01:07:965 (1,2) - Just esthetically, rotate this 20° clockwise please. 20°? O_o ok...
  4. 01:26:399 - Add a note here, you miss pretty important sound in music and in common rhythm sense. tbh i really dont hear anything important o_O but added anyway
  5. 01:35:074 - Add a note here too, please. I hear plenty of stuff there, something like a synth and a bass and you know. ^
  6. 01:37:604 (2) - Continue this to 01:37:965. Ending this earlier makes no sense, there is not sound at that point. Earlier you did 01:20:254 (2) - but it lands on bass sound perfectly. Here we have no basses at 1/3, only some barely noticeable noise which doesn't worth emphasizing, so enlarge this to 1/2. It has a guitar sound at 01:37:785 - by the way, it's 1/4. So maybe you'd like to add a 1/4 triple here instead. fixed
  7. 01:40:857 - Again add a note. ^
  8. 01:43:387 (3) - Same as above about 1/2 or 1/4. ^
  9. 01:49:170 (3) - Here again. If you turn 25 or 50% on, you'll hear that it's 1/4 , not 1/3. ^
thx for modding ^^
http://puu.sh/1ks6L
grumd
Ok, I can see that Normal is done by kazumikos. Change this diff's name to "kazumikos' Normal" then, it's strange to see credits to kevincela in his diff name, but not to see credits to kazumikos.

@kazumikos:
Well, at 00:47:965 (2) - I still think that such short sliders play too abrupt in easy diffs, and still suggest you to make it like 01:16:279 (3,4) -
You just haven't replied to this, so I thought you forgot :s
kazumikos

grumd wrote:

Ok, I can see that Normal is done by kazumikos. Change this diff's name to "kazumikos' Normal" then, it's strange to see credits to kevincela in his diff name, but not to see credits to kazumikos.

@kazumikos:
Well, at 00:47:965 (2) - I still think that such short sliders play too abrupt in easy diffs, and still suggest you to make it like 01:16:279 (3,4) -
You just haven't replied to this, so I thought you forgot :s oh i thought the main problem was the unsnapping o3o hmm.. i was just trying to make this diff harder a little bit, this 1/6 slider isnt that abrupt imo, you can read it very well o_o
I'll consider to fix this later, gotta wait for Tony updates first =3=
grumd
It's not hard or unreadable, it just plays kinda bad.
Try to read "Short Sliders vs Long sliders" article in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58959
Topic Starter
Tony

grumd wrote:

— Overall
  1. Offset felt a bit off. It should be 0, but don't change it, you'll have to change mp3 anyway.Fix'd
  2. Your mp3 is 320kbps, it's unrankable.Fix'd
  3. Your BG is 1024x682, that's not unrankable, but it creates black letterboxes that just don't look fine :c
  4. Normal has no tags and no preview time. Copy this stuff from other diffs.Fix'd
— Settings
  1. Try AR+1 on Hard and HP-1 on Normal, this will make setting a bit more balanced imo. And AR8 on Hard fits such a fast Slider Velocity better. But well, I'm fine with both variants anywayRaised AR.
Hard
  1. 00:19:036 - Placing this as a continuity of a slider feels better to me. It fits your overall style better. Also, try to add notes at 00:18:674 and 00:18:795-, that place feels empty.Ok!
  2. 00:20:120 (1,2) - Well, again. I don't really like when you place a circle in such an edgy way. Making a smooth line out of these would look prettier. Ok!
  3. 00:42:289 (5) - Usual curved slider looks much better. Just saying, if you like this one, leave it. I left it as it was :3
  4. I found out that placing finishes at some patterns fit guitar really good:
    1. 00:21:686 (2) - 00:22:409 (4) -
    2. 00:27:469 (2) - 00:28:192 (4) -
    3. 00:33:253 (1) - 00:33:975 (3) -
    4. 00:39:036 - 00:39:759 -
    5. You did it on your own in this pattern: 00:44:471 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - another reason to add it at similar places.
    6. 00:50:616 - 00:51:339 -
    7. 00:56:399 (1) - 00:57:122 (1) -
    8. 01:02:182 - 01:02:905 (4) -
    9. 01:07:965 (1,3) -
    10. 01:19:532 (1,1) -
    Added half of the suggestions! The others sounded too loud to me :s
  5. 01:21:339 (1) - In my opinion adding an extra reverse on this slider will fit the music better and will make 1/4 totally clear and fun to play. Try this:

    I left it as it was :3
  6. 01:36:881 - You miss a guitar sound here. End the slider at this point. If you apply this, you'll have an opportunity to place finishes at 01:36:881 and 01:37:604
  7. 01:40:014 (3,4,1,2) - Again what I said about smooth transition between slider and circle..
  8. 01:42:664 (2,4) - Finishes here, again to guitar.
  9. 01:48:447 - 01:49:170 - And here too.
  10. This applies to all diffs. Quite a meanstream suggestion, but try to add a spinner at the end of the map. End it at 01:52:785. This song is fading out, so silent spinner fits nicely. Additionally, this diff is really not hard so you will have plenty of SS scores. That's why I suggest a spinner for score differences.
I dunno what I fixed and what I didn't. Sure thing that I didn't add a spinner D:
About the BG, I don't wanna cut anything from the bg, because it's the original one. :s
Thanks alot for modding and support, grumd!

Major Update: New mp3!!!
kazumikos

grumd wrote:

It's not hard or unreadable, it just plays kinda bad.
Try to read "Short Sliders vs Long sliders" article in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58959
well i said i would fix this after tony updates >_>
here it is :3

http://puu.sh/1lvRW
-kevincela-

grumd wrote:

Easy
  1. 00:28:568 - Lol, make it at least 30-40%! I could hear nothing, that's too quiet. Yeah,you're right. Fixed!
  2. 00:34:712 - I guess you forgot to turn custom hitsounds back on at this point? It's strange that you suddenly bring soft whistles in, while you used basses before. Though setting whistles at the guitar is a nice idea (I mean 00:33:267 (3,4) - ) Tony should have deleted it for error xD Added!
  3. 00:57:483 (4) - Yea, after further testing I highly suggest 40% Done
  4. Also consider adding such whistle pattern (01:07:965 (3,4) - ) at following places:
    00:44:833 (2,3) - 00:50:616 (2) - 01:00:736 (1,2) - 01:18:086 (1,2) -
    I don't suggest to add it at places like 01:48:086 (2,3) - , where you miss one of the guitar notes on the middle of a long slider. That would bring kind of inconsistencies.Added some of these whistles
Thanks for the mod! :3

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256,140,57851,6,0,B|240:200|276:248|336:256,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
336,168,58935,1,2,0:0:0
192,84,59658,2,0,B|168:112|172:156,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,292,60742,6,0,B|256:132,2,150,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
200,356,62550,2,0,B|168:376|120:368,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
192,216,63634,6,0,B|232:208|256:244|256:244|280:208|320:216,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
396,252,64718,1,2,0:0:0
292,124,65441,2,0,B|256:108|220:124,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
120,256,66526,5,2,0:0:0
256,352,67248,1,2,0:0:0
392,256,67971,2,0,B|428:272|464:256,1,75,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
428,180,68694,2,0,B|392:164|356:180,1,75,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
304,244,69417,5,4,0:0:0
192,136,75200,6,0,B|216:108|256:100|256:100|296:108|320:136,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,188,76285,1,2,0:0:0
220,348,77007,2,0,B|256:364|292:348,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
332,188,78092,6,0,B|348:128|320:80|256:56|192:80|164:128|180:188,1,300,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,224,79899,2,0,B|256:312,2,75,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,140,80983,6,0,B|268:92|344:72|380:112,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
328,176,82068,1,2,0:0:0
164,152,82791,2,0,B|124:132|108:96,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
212,232,83875,6,2,B|208:272|172:300,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
192,376,84598,2,0,B|232:372|256:340|256:340|280:372|320:376,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
335,296,85682,2,0,B|304:272|300:232,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,72,86766,6,0,B|256:-8,2,75,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
192,124,87851,2,0,B|212:156|256:168|300:156|320:124,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
360,52,88935,1,8,0:0:0
400,212,89658,5,2,0:0:0
256,296,90381,1,2,0:0:0
112,212,91104,2,0,B|108:168|148:132,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
112,64,91827,2,0,B|160:44|220:84|220:140,1,150,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
232,300,93273,5,8,0:0:0
304,344,93634,2,0,B|348:348|368:316|368:316|388:280|432:284,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
512,308,94718,1,8,0:0:0
416,172,95441,6,0,B|364:192|312:168|296:112,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
215,114,96526,2,0,B|200:168|148:192|96:172,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
132,96,97610,1,8,0:0:0
256,204,98333,5,2,0:0:0
124,300,99056,1,8,0:0:0
196,340,99417,2,0,B|216:368|256:384|256:384|296:368|316:340,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
388,300,100501,1,8,0:0:0
256,204,101224,5,2,0:0:0
256,40,101947,1,8,0:0:0
192,92,102309,2,0,B|208:120|256:140|304:120|320:92,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
372,28,103393,2,0,B|412:16|444:40|444:40,1,75,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
488,108,104116,5,6,0:0:0
400,248,104839,1,8,0:0:0
364,320,105200,2,0,B|328:304|320:264|320:264|280:272|256:300,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
200,364,106285,1,8,0:0:0
168,204,107007,6,0,B|212:172|212:124|212:124|212:60,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
300,69,108092,2,0,B|300:124|300:124|300:172|344:204,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
428,208,109176,2,0,B|468:184|472:140,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
388,132,109899,5,4,0:0:0
HellDawn
Kevincela

Wonderful.

Kazumi

00:44:839- Maybe this pattern better

00:54:959-whistle
01:00:742-^

Tony

01:09:417- (104.192 ?) more jump (above 2. combo)
01:17:971- NC ?

Relaxing song
Lally
Sexy Mapper req a sexy mod \o3o/

[General]
all ok o3o

[kevin's Easy]

01:43:634 - perchè 20 % volume ? suona un po male e assente :V un 40% secondo me andrebbe meglio u.u

[kazumi's Normal]

01:17:007 (4) - something like:
01:20:260 (2) - this slider should end at 01:20:622
01:44:839 (2,3) - why no blanket here?

[Sexy Hard]

00:12:670 (3) - can be better that slider
00:24:236 (1) - :C ugly slider do it better
01:09:417 (5) - something like:
01:15:923 (3,4) - do a better blanket


good luck moe :3 a star for you <3
Topic Starter
Tony
fixed some in my diff! waiting for guests :3
kazumikos

HellDawn wrote:

Kazumi

00:44:839- Maybe this pattern better ok...
00:54:959-whistle fixed
01:00:742-^ ^

Lally wrote:

kazumi's Normal


01:17:007 (4) - something like.. why? +_+
01:20:260 (2) - this slider should end at 01:20:622 no, it should end at 1/3
01:44:839 (2,3) - why no blanket here? fixed
sorry for delay
thx a lot for modding ^^

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