This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 11:25:00 PM

Artist: SMAP
Title: Dear WOMAN
Tags: naruto
BPM: 125.01
Filesize: 13277kb
Play Time: 04:23
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (1.82 stars, 251 notes)
2. Hard (4.58 stars, 494 notes)
3. INIS Style Hard (4.42 stars, 308 notes)
4. INIS Style Insane (4.86 stars, 333 notes)

Download: SMAP - Dear WOMAN
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Just to reconfirm stuff:

1) Nowhere in NARUTO does this song appear.
2) This is a sweet song, generally speaking. Lovey dovey, and it's SMAP. These two elements seem closely associated, no? =x
3) I'm pretty sure the SB isn't screwed up, but the .osb might still need some tweaking.
4) The confirmed pairings in this one are: NaruHina, SasuSaku, ChojiIno, NejiTen, AsuKure, TsunaJira. Oh and not forgetting ShikaTema <3
5) This is still a draft. Will edit this one as I update the .osu.
(edit - no longer a draft)
6) There are some subliminal messages in my Hard difficulty. If you can answer me, you'd be like Flonne.

EDIT LOG:
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01/03/09: March into a slightly edited SB. I was desperately trying to avoid having to full submit again but looks like with a complex story that is a pipe dream at best >.>;;;

Also: Credited m980 with INIS Style, using the title cards. That was the least I could do, but right now the SB is still incomplete because of LuigiHann's recommended tweaks not being done.

Also #2: Even though the SB is still not exactly done in certain aspects, I felt that the new spinner stuff I got from [HanyouMiko] was too hard to overlook. I also took the SB revamp opportunity to properly credit the right people. Don't skip the SB at the start and take a look for yourself =3

19/03/09: Screw "skipping the SB", I made my skip button disappear >:D
Also, updates for kiai time (lucky I wasn't rushing through my map development on this one, or I would've missed kiai time) and Hard is improving from being a rough draft to being a less rough draft D:

14/04/09: Goodness, I'm nowhere near done with Hard even though the rest are. I really have to give this a bump.
15/04/09: ALMOST DONE. Thankfully! Thanks to Kyocciola and VincentLaw. =3
16/04/09: DONE. But there's JJJ to look out for. DAMNED that troll =x
Same day: SB tweaking, replacement of mp3, adjustment of offset for all maps completed. This map is now in Pending.
19/04/09: Edited according to Great Nazi JarJarJacob.
21/05/09: Edited according to Great Modder Larto.

SURPRISE!!!

A huge one really. Thanks a lot bud.

Awesome SB
I like everything that use in this beatmap

4 and a half minutes of Naruto storyboarding, I think you should delete this right now. If you're going to use those timing sections for anything, make sure to place them 1/4 back.

Hard:

00:28:32 (4) - Don't cover sliders like that.
01:05:28 (1) - It's too close to the last note.
01:14:16 (4) - This is a strange way to use claps.
01:40:32 (1,5) - Don't overlap like this.




I can find nothing really wrong, so I'm going to suggest and 'iNiS wouldn't do that' you to death. This is far from traditional.

Combos are a bit short the whole way through. I'll point out the main offenders throughout the map. I don't mind short combos that help recover, so I'll leave those. More HP Drain, too.

iNiS Insane:

All of the 1/4 circles in the first section everywhere. iNiS rarely, if ever, used 1/4 notes and when they did, they weren't synced with the vocals.
00:53:04 (3) - Switch to a slider
00:56:64 - Big break here. That's strange.
01:15:60 (1) - Doesn't feel right on a single combo and I think a curved circular shape may help it, too.
01:18:00 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:20:40 (1,2) - Back on that 'iNiS wouldn't do this' issue right here. The combo is too short even for recovery and doesn't fit. Maybe you should swap that circle on the last combo for a slider.
01:25:20 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:29:04 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:30:00 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:31:92 (1) - What I said for 01:20:40.
01:33:36 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:52:08 (1) - Strange.
01:53:76 (1) - Remove new combo, but only if you are keeping that slider, or a similar pattern. I'm indecisive about keeping it as it is with the slider intact.
01:55:92 (1) - Again, it's strange. If you're keeping it, make it curvy. Whistle sounds ugly.
01:57:60 (1) - See above-above.
01:59:76 (1,2) - See above-above.
You're spamming whistles everywhere ahead. Decide where to use them appropriately.
02:09:36 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:23:76 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:27:60 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:32:40 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:33:60 (1) - New combo. That's a new one.
02:42:00 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:44:40 (1) - Remove new combo.
I'm getting deja vu. Fix what I said at the last chorus.
03:10:08 (1) - Shorten to when the vocals end.

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

00:28:32 (4) - Don't cover sliders like that. So I tried to fix it.
01:05:28 (1) - It's too close to the last note. Rolled says slowdowns like this is fine. Well.
01:14:16 (4) - This is a strange way to use claps. Fuck your hitsounds modding.
01:40:32 (1,5) - Don't overlap like this. I don't think it's overlapping to the point where the player can't follow, so I don't see an issue. Nevertheless, 5 is re-patterned.

NOW I know why m980 fucked you for this as well. >.>+

Updated.

[Easy]
00:37:27 (8) - why start a break in the middle of a word? o-o
01:22:39 (3) - align with 2
01:23:83 (4) - align w 3
01:53:11 (3) - align w 2,4
01:59:83 (1) - align w 6
02:48:78 (3) - align w 2,4
03:44:46 (7) - hitsound
04:03:66 (3) - align w 2,4
also your Easy really doesn't need to be this long ^-^ you can cut off the last part and no one would care~ they might even prefer it


[INIS Hard]
00:39:19 (1) - make this flow better from 3
00:53:11 (3) - end with a finish
01:23:35 (1) - put on the same horizontal as 6
01:32:47 (1) - make this flow better from 6
02:05:59 (1,2,3,4) - too much whistle
02:14:71 (5) - align w 4
02:37:26 (10) - finish + add a break


[Hard]
00:18:07 (1) - symmetry plz
00:27:67 (3,4) - stack endpoints
00:31:27 (1) - make this curve the other way so it hides 2 less
00:57:19 (2) - these would also benefit from symmetry
00:59:83 (2) - align w 1
01:02:95 (1) - align horizontally w 7
01:09:91 (3) - self-overlap is iffy
01:32:83 (2) - almost entirely hidden by 1
01:36:79 (6) - maybe move a hair <--
01:40:39 (1) - self-overlap is iffy
01:42:31 (2) - align w 1
02:09:43 (6) - hard to follow
02:24:78 (10) - align w 6,7
03:01:62 (2) - sliders are not allowed to overlap themselves in this manner
03:10:14 (1) - you can end here if you want
03:22:62 (1) - stack end on fading 3
03:27:30 (4) - stack under fading 9
03:34:62 (3) - insert break here
03:37:74 (2) - ???? slider design?
03:43:26 (9) - new combo
03:55:50 (1) - illegal
needs more hitsounds in general


[INIS Insane]
see INIS Hard its the same map mostly

Overall:
Redo all the breaks. That'll make them start a tiny bit later. (Actually they seem to be fine on Hard. Only hard.)


Easy:
01:32:95 (1) - Go stack this perfectly to 3's end ^_^
02:59:34 (1) - ^

Hard:
02:16:38 (7) - Ugliest heart slider ever D: Well, not super ugly, but you could make it prettier.
03:01:62 (2) - ...Eh, does this have to be


yupyup

[Easy]
00:56:95 (2) - move one grid3 up
01:20:47 (7) - finish?
02:46:86 (7) - ^
03:44:46 (7) - ^ (lol)
04:21:89 (1) - why the random curve at the very end? it looks strange


[INIS Hard]
00:53:11 (3) - end with a finish
00:56:47 (3) - delete and replace break
01:23:35 (1) - align with 6?
01:44:47 (4) - delete/replace break
02:05:59 (1,2,3,4) - try a different hitsound, youre overusing whistles
02:14:71 (5) - break
02:49:74 (1) - align with 6?


[Hard]
00:18:07 (1) - this symmetry is not a minor problem - it is very obviously lopsided
00:27:67 (3,4) - stack the endpoints
01:09:91 (3) - hard to tell direction of slider
01:25:27 (3.5) - finish the ends
01:40:39 (1) - self-overlap shouldnt be rankable *jab*
01:51:91 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - uh there should be SOME hitsounds in here
02:57:42 (6,7,8) - hitsounds?
03:37:74 (2) - self-overlap like this is illegal and unrankable
03:55:50 (1) - ^
dammit Pasonia you're a BAT you should KNOW these things


[INIS Insane]
00:55:51 (1,2) - hitsounds
01:23:35 (1) - align w 6
this is the same as Hard mostly so look up there for comments

I'd like to back SFG up on this:

Hard:

03:37:74 (2) - self-overlap like this is illegal and unrankable
03:55:50 (1) - ^

It's a reverse-burai slider. Last time I checked, burai sliders are also frowned upon.

I didn't know burai sliders were *Unrankable* material. Last I checked, there was something Zettai love x love Sengen? Can't remember, but I know there were sliders like that and it got ranked.

I wonder if a change to those patterns will ruin my intended messages in the mapping.

There's no true consensus on whether those are rankable. Bout half the mods said "never" and the other half said "in some cases." I said they're only okay in Hard and up.

In your case, I don't see the purpose of 03:37:74 (2). Can you make an argument for it? It's so close to being a normal slider that the tiny overlap at the top looks like a glitch.

I actually like the visual/rhythmic effect of 03:55:50 (1), but I think you should make sure Grid Snap is on (and temporarily disable distance snap) to make sure it's a straight, vertical slider, as right now it's ever-so-slightly off, which makes the overlap not look clean. I would also very heavily encourage you to storyboard in an arrow indicating the initial direction of the slider, and perhaps another pointing backward at the "bare" end of the slider. This I suggest mostly so that players would realize that it's a non-standard slider and not a broken slider, which might be a natural assumption.

Very Nice Beatmap!

Starred

m980 you are evil T.T
I like your diffs XD

<Hard>
01:09:91 (3) - is this ok?? i am not sure but i can beat this
01:31:03 (9) - ^

IMO easy is kinda too long
Maybe stop at 03:14

Back to pending
resize those big pictures to 800 X 600 or smaller

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