This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, June 19, 2009 at 11:00:04 AM

Artist: Jay Chou
Title: Nocturne (Ye Qu)
Source: November Chopin
Tags: November Chopin Chinese Pop Nocturne Jay Chou
BPM: 87
Filesize: 16264kb
Play Time: 03:38
Difficulties Available:

1. Nocturne (3.79 stars, 230 notes)
2. Prelude (1.59 stars, 99 notes)
3. Sonata (4.74 stars, 386 notes)

Download: Jay Chou - Nocturne (Ye Qu)
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My first beatmap :] Kekekeke ^^

Jay Chou's Nocturne / Ye Qu from November's Chopin (2005)

I'm pretty sure/hope the timings are correct, but I'm a bit more doubtful of some of the spacing.

I would love to have some constructive feedback from you awesome peoples. If I should continue on with this project...

Thanks for your time and patience!
--Thepianist

EDIT: BPM and offset adjusted, spacing more decent, difficulty changed to normal. :] Thanks BlissfulYoshi!

4/5 Edit: "Virtuoso": level draft completed.
4/9 Edit: Thank you RedFox for your input! BPM changed from 86.991 to 87 flat. Hitsounds still in progress. "Beginner" level draft completed. "Virtuoso" level is complete, but not perfected.
4/10 Edit: Two break replaced with shorter ones.
4/13 Edit: Hitsounds added to beginning.
4/14 Edit: Normal redone.
4/15 Edit: Most of BlissfulYoshi's suggestions implemented. Thanks!
4/16 Edit: Following through with SFG's advice.
4/21 Edit: Followed through most of BlissfulYoshi's suggestions.
5/05 Edit: Minor fixes. Moved to pending.
5/08 Edit: Metroid's suggestions followed.
5/09 Edit: Starrodkirby86's suggestions followed.
5/10 Edit: Haha many fixes here. Thanks to Sushi971, Gens, and Minyeob!
5/11 Edit: Doomsday93 suggestions followed.
5/12 Edit: Custom Hitcircle added. Nommable I hope... (Almost 1 month anniversary!)
5/13 Edit: One month anniversay! Hahahaha. Followed suggestions by Ryuukun and Mafiamaster. Thanks!
5/17 Edit: Following through with SFG's advice (take 2)
5/19 Edit: One of these days it's going to be good. FInished Ryuukun's suggestions.
5/21 Edit: tieff's edits added.
6/01 Edit: Alace's edits added.
6/02 Edit: Larto's edits added.
6/09 Edit: RemmyX25's edits added.
6/18 Edit: Takuma's edits added.
6/19 Edit: SFG's break removed.

Another Jay Chou map? He's so popular, huh?
又是周杰倫的歌啊？他還真熱門...

I think you did a nice job. You just do some changes to make it better.
我覺得做得還不錯，稍微改一下會更好

BPM=87.00
改一下BPM

[Nocturne]

I think the note is a little too random. I don't really know why you put some of them on that time. like 01:42:480(1,2,3,4)
音符的點擺得有點隨機，我有點搞不清楚你為什麼要在某些時間點擺音符。像是01:42:480(1,2,3,4)是一個例子
There's many other of them. Maybe you did it intentionally.
其他還有很多地方，也許你故意的吧？
In my opinion, you should follow the lyrics. But I'm not sure, you can wait for someone else's suggestion.
我是覺得應該要盡量跟歌詞走，不過這個部分可以先保留吧，等其他人的意見好了

[Sonata]
Move these notes to 1/4 beat. There's not that much 1/6 beat in a pop song like this.
以下請往後挪到1/4拍的位置，其實流行歌不會有那麼多1/6拍出現的（前面的RAP例外，那邊是對的）
01:11:224(7)
01:12:948(2)
01:33:295(7)
01:35:020(2)
02:39:059(7)
02:41:233(2)

00:54:125(2) Remove this.刪掉這個
00:56:970(5) A little too far.距離好像有點遠
00:59:384 Add a note here.這邊加一拍吧
02:27:324(4) Adjust the distence.距離稍微調一下
02:35:600 Add a break time here.加一段休息時間
03:36:296 Add a note here.這裡也加一拍吧

Here are the edits I promised, even though they are not much.

Prelude:
Why is the slider tick velocity 4? Change this to 2 like your other ones.
I could not find too much wrong with this one

Nocturne:
As RedFox stated, there is no real pattern to this difficulty. I would advise you map some sections a little more and make a simple pattern out of it.
Also, there are way to many long breaks in this song. I think most people would be annoyed to have 3 10 second breaks and 1 20 second break. You should try to keep the breaks under 10 seconds.

Sonata:
Same break problem with 3 10 second breaks. This one is worse because there is a 20 second period of playing bordered by 10 second breaks.
I would suggest increasing the circle size one notch because it is annoying to do short streams with such small notes, but this decision is all up to you.

Sorry if this modding seems very short and shallow, Iam not a very good mod.

RedFox wrote:

Another Jay Chou map? He's so popular, huh?
又是周杰倫的歌啊？他還真熱門...

Haha I only found one other Jay Chou map so far - maybe I missed some of them...
哈哈真的嗎?我只有找到一個周杰倫的歌.

I think you did a nice job. You just do some changes to make it better.
我覺得做得還不錯，稍微改一下會更好

BPM=87.00
改一下BPM

[Nocturne]

I think the note is a little too random. I don't really know why you put some of them on that time. like 01:42:480(1,2,3,4)
音符的點擺得有點隨機，我有點搞不清楚你為什麼要在某些時間點擺音符。像是01:42:480(1,2,3,4)是一個例子
There's many other of them. Maybe you did it intentionally.
其他還有很多地方，也許你故意的吧？
In my opinion, you should follow the lyrics. But I'm not sure, you can wait for someone else's suggestion.
我是覺得應該要盡量跟歌詞走，不過這個部分可以先保留吧，等其他人的意見好了

It was just keeping the beat of the music.
我是想要它跟著音樂的拍子在一起.

[Sonata]
Move these notes to 1/4 beat. There's not that much 1/6 beat in a pop song like this.
以下請往後挪到1/4拍的位置，其實流行歌不會有那麼多1/6拍出現的（前面的RAP例外，那邊是對的）
01:11:224(7)
01:12:948(2)
01:33:295(7)
01:35:020(2)
02:39:059(7)
02:41:233(2)

00:54:125(2) Remove this.刪掉這個
00:56:970(5) A little too far.距離好像有點遠
00:59:384 Add a note here.這邊加一拍吧
02:27:324(4) Adjust the distence.距離稍微調一下
02:35:600 Add a break time here.加一段休息時間
03:36:296 Add a note here.這裡也加一拍吧

Fixed
改過來了.

Thanks for the help!

Here are the edits I promised, even though they are not much.

Prelude:
Why is the slider tick velocity 4? Change this to 2 like your other ones.
I could not find too much wrong with this one

Nocturne:
As RedFox stated, there is no real pattern to this difficulty. I would advise you map some sections a little more and make a simple pattern out of it.
Also, there are way to many long breaks in this song. I think most people would be annoyed to have 3 10 second breaks and 1 20 second break. You should try to keep the breaks under 10 seconds.

Now its 2 10 sec break with instrumental break in middle. lo~

Sonata:
Same break problem with 3 10 second breaks. This one is worse because there is a 20 second period of playing bordered by 10 second breaks.
I would suggest increasing the circle size one notch because it is annoying to do short streams with such small notes, but this decision is all up to you.

See above ^^.

Sorry if this modding seems very short and shallow, Iam not a very good mod.

Thanks too!

make some more overlap notes.. keeps the player awake and looking for notes under sliders and stuff

Since you wanted me to mod your normal again

Normal:
41:10, 3 this is not stacked correctly. Make sure each one is directly on top of each other
53:86, 5,6 it is difficult to see that these are both repeating twice, I would recommend separating the 2 sliders
59:96, 4 align vertically with 3
1:27:31, 3 move up one notch on lvl 3 grid
1:28:69, 5 move up one notch on lvl 3 grid to align with 4
1:35:41, 5 move left one notch on lvl 3 grid
1:50:07, 3,4 snap these two notes to some words
20+ sec break... please try to map a little of this
2:25:24, 3,4,5 move these one notch right on lvl 3 grid
2:30:24, 2 either align this with the curve or place directly below the end of 1
3:09:03, 1 snap this beat to a note
3:10:75, 1 can you please make this have a line of symmetry, it looks messy
3:34:55, 2,3 move these up one notch to align with the end of 1

A lot better now, so have your star.

iPone wrote:

make some more overlap notes.. keeps the player awake and looking for notes under sliders and stuff

You have a few in normal.

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Since you wanted me to mod your normal again

Normal:
41:10, 3 this is not stacked correctly. Make sure each one is directly on top of each other Fixed
53:86, 5,6 it is difficult to see that these are both repeating twice, I would recommend separating the 2 sliders. Fixed
59:96, 4 align vertically with 3 Fixed
1:27:31, 3 move up one notch on lvl 3 grid Fixed
1:28:69, 5 move up one notch on lvl 3 grid to align with 4 Fixed
1:35:41, 5 move left one notch on lvl 3 grid Fixed
1:50:07, 3,4 snap these two notes to some words Fixed
20+ sec break... please try to map a little of this Haha - I'm trying to keep the difficulty level at Normal, so I'll first leave as is now, and maybe map later.
2:25:24, 3,4,5 move these one notch right on lvl 3 grid Fixed
2:30:24, 2 either align this with the curve or place directly below the end of 1 Fixed
3:09:03, 1 snap this beat to a note Fixed
3:10:75, 1 can you please make this have a line of symmetry, it looks messy Fixed - I think.
3:34:55, 2,3 move these up one notch to align with the end of 1 Fixed

A lot better now, so have your star.

Thanks!

[Beginner]
00:36:27 (1) - stack on fading end of 1
00:38:00 (2,3) - inconsistent/misleading spacing
00:42:13 (1,2,3) - ^
00:53:51 (1,2,3) - overusing clap
spacing is visibly incorrect in many places, i encourage you to go
through with distance snap
01:05:93 (4) - spacing is WAY off
01:12:82 (2) - stack end under 1
01:14:89 (1) - differentiate slider end from slider start more
01:22:48 (2) - align horizontally w end of 1
01:23:17 (1,2,3) - should make an equilateral triangle
01:25:24 (7) - stack under fading 1
01:34:20 (1) - align over 3
01:34:89 (2) - stack end on 1
01:36:27 (3) - align w 2
01:36:96 (1) - make this turn at right angles using grid snap and then
move it out from under 2
01:40:41 (2) - partly hidden
01:42:48 (1) - stack under 3
01:44:55 (2) - align horizontally w 1
01:49:38 (3) - ^ w 2


[Normal]
00:28:00 (2) - clap for consistancy
00:31:10 (2,3) - remove claps from the second hit of each
00:36:44 (3) - add whistles on 2 and 4 hits
00:41:96 (1) - i think thisd be more intuitive if it started 1/4 later
00:55:24 (8) - align w 7
00:55:58 (1,2,3) - spacing looks funky?
01:00:75 (3,4,5) - align w 2
01:02:48 (2) - add whistles on some but not all beats
01:28:00 (3) - end w finish
01:36:27 (5) - clap/finish?
01:45:24 (1) - try using belzier curves here they look prettier.
also start and end are too close together
02:16:27 (3) - looks kinda ugly
02:23:86 (1) - add some whistles
02:26:62 (1,1) - slider overlap is ugly
02:32:13 (1) - end one full beat earlier, or half a beat if you prefer
02:58:34 (1) - make this symmetrical
03:01:44 (5) - replace clap with whistle
03:02:48 (1) - stack end on 6
03:07:65 (3) - remove clap
03:09:38 (2) - ^
03:10:75 (1) - this is probably one too many instances of slider art in
your map
03:33:00 (1) - too much whistle
03:33:00 (1,2) - hitsound last note (finish/clap)


[Virtuoso]
00:28:34 (2) - remove claps from all but last hit
00:32:48 (4) - improper stacking
00:39:72 (2) - align over 1
00:44:55 (15) - improper stacking
00:51:44 (9) - new combo?
00:55:58 (1,2,3,4,5) - a bit too much hitsound
00:57:48 (6) - remove finish
00:59:38 (5) - ^
01:01:27 (9) - new combo
01:09:72 (2) - align under 1
01:24:03 (3) - align w 2
01:31:10 (1) - end with a finish/clap
01:35:07 (2) - align w 1
01:48:51 (2) - ^
01:49:89 (5) - align w 4
whenever you have a slider look at the note right afterwards and make
sure it either has its own pattern or lines up with the end of your
slider, because slider ends tend to defy grid snap
01:50:75 (1) - remove ending finish
02:04:55 (3,4) - slider overlap looks messy
02:11:10 (6) - new combo
02:12:82 (1) - finish
02:30:07 (3,4,5,6,7) - needs more hitsounds to match rest of song
02:41:27 (2) - partly hidden
02:41:62 (3) - after you move 2 out from under 1 try and make 3 stack
under the start of 1
03:01:62 (8) - should center between 6 and 7
03:16:96 (3,4) - improper stacking
03:25:24 (2) - ^
03:26:62 (7) - clap
03:30:41 (3,8,9) - stack ends
03:34:20 (8) - start with a clap
03:35:58 (5) - ^
03:36:79 (4) - end with a clap
03:37:65 (6) - improper stacking


call me back later and i may star

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Beginner]
00:36:27 (1) - stack on fading end of 1
00:38:00 (2,3) - inconsistent/misleading spacing
00:42:13 (1,2,3) - ^
00:53:51 (1,2,3) - overusing clap
spacing is visibly incorrect in many places, i encourage you to go
through with distance snap
01:05:93 (4) - spacing is WAY off
01:12:82 (2) - stack end under 1
01:14:89 (1) - differentiate slider end from slider start more
01:22:48 (2) - align horizontally w end of 1
01:23:17 (1,2,3) - should make an equilateral triangle
01:25:24 (7) - stack under fading 1
01:34:20 (1) - align over 3
01:34:89 (2) - stack end on 1
01:36:27 (3) - align w 2
01:36:96 (1) - make this turn at right angles using grid snap and then
move it out from under 2
01:40:41 (2) - partly hidden
01:42:48 (1) - stack under 3
01:44:55 (2) - align horizontally w 1
01:49:38 (3) - ^ w 2


[Normal]
00:28:00 (2) - clap for consistancy
00:31:10 (2,3) - remove claps from the second hit of each
00:36:44 (3) - add whistles on 2 and 4 hits
00:41:96 (1) - i think thisd be more intuitive if it started 1/4 later
00:55:24 (8) - align w 7
00:55:58 (1,2,3) - spacing looks funky?
01:00:75 (3,4,5) - align w 2
01:02:48 (2) - add whistles on some but not all beats
01:28:00 (3) - end w finish
01:36:27 (5) - clap/finish?
01:45:24 (1) - try using belzier curves here they look prettier.
also start and end are too close together
02:16:27 (3) - looks kinda ugly
02:23:86 (1) - add some whistles
02:26:62 (1,1) - slider overlap is ugly
02:32:13 (1) - end one full beat earlier, or half a beat if you prefer
02:58:34 (1) - make this symmetrical
03:01:44 (5) - replace clap with whistle
03:02:48 (1) - stack end on 6
03:07:65 (3) - remove clap
03:09:38 (2) - ^
03:10:75 (1) - this is probably one too many instances of slider art in
your map
03:33:00 (1) - too much whistle
03:33:00 (1,2) - hitsound last note (finish/clap)


[Virtuoso]
00:28:34 (2) - remove claps from all but last hit
00:32:48 (4) - improper stacking
00:39:72 (2) - align over 1
00:44:55 (15) - improper stacking
00:51:44 (9) - new combo?
00:55:58 (1,2,3,4,5) - a bit too much hitsound
00:57:48 (6) - remove finish
00:59:38 (5) - ^
01:01:27 (9) - new combo
01:09:72 (2) - align under 1
01:24:03 (3) - align w 2
01:31:10 (1) - end with a finish/clap
01:35:07 (2) - align w 1
01:48:51 (2) - ^
01:49:89 (5) - align w 4
whenever you have a slider look at the note right afterwards and make
sure it either has its own pattern or lines up with the end of your
slider, because slider ends tend to defy grid snap
01:50:75 (1) - remove ending finish
02:04:55 (3,4) - slider overlap looks messy
02:11:10 (6) - new combo
02:12:82 (1) - finish
02:30:07 (3,4,5,6,7) - needs more hitsounds to match rest of song
02:41:27 (2) - partly hidden
02:41:62 (3) - after you move 2 out from under 1 try and make 3 stack
under the start of 1
03:01:62 (8) - should center between 6 and 7
03:16:96 (3,4) - improper stacking
03:25:24 (2) - ^
03:26:62 (7) - clap
03:30:41 (3,8,9) - stack ends
03:34:20 (8) - start with a clap
03:35:58 (5) - ^
03:36:79 (4) - end with a clap
03:37:65 (6) - improper stacking


call me back later and i may star

Thank you so much for your detailed advice. I believe most of the suggestions were corrected.

Thanks again!
-Thepianist

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blissfulyoshi wrote:

Time to go through this again. (remember to have correct spacing after editing)

Beginner:
01:04:55 (2) - shift one notch right(3)
01:22:48 (2) - shift 2 notches down(3)
01:28:69 (2) - shift one notch right(3) to form isosceles triangle
01:32:13 (3) - not spaced correctly
01:34:89 (2) - not spaced correctly
01:36:96 (1) - shift one notch down(3)
01:45:24 (1) - shift one notch up(3)
01:49:38 (3) - improperly stacked up with the end of 2

Normal:
00:25:24 (2) - improperly spaced
00:27:31 (1) - " "
00:28:34 (3) - " "
00:30:07 (6) - " "
00:35:24 (2) - " "
getting tired. go through with distance snap pls
00:51:10 (4) - shift one notch right(3)
00:51:62 (5,6) - make these create the same slop between 2,3,4
01:13:00 (3,4,5,6) - shift one notch down(3)
01:17:31 (4) - follow the slope from 3
01:25:93 (1) - shift one notch left(3)
01:27:82 (4) - shift one notch right(3)
01:45:24 (1) - this slider should end on 1:47:31
01:48:69 (2) - y is this placed here. It is very random
02:28:34 (2) - shift one notch left(3)
02:28:69 (1) - try to line up the end of this one exactly with the start of the orange 1
03:05:24 (1) - shift one notch up(3)

Virtuoso:
00:35:24 (9) - shift one notch left(3)
00:56:62 (4) - shift one notch up(3)
00:59:20 (4,5) - shift one notch right(3)
01:31:10 (1) - align with the end of green 1
02:04:55 (3,4) - slider overlap does look messy, but I think it is permissible. I would probably try to change the shape to not overlap
03:12:13 (4) - this one is a little weird you could align with either 1 or 3, but if possible make all 3 line up
03:13:51 (1) - align with the end of 3
03:23:17 (1,2,3,4,5) - why is 2 not as pushed as far as 4. I would advise you keep it even
03:29:38 (5) - align with the end of 4

I would advise you comb through each difficulty with distance snap.

Thanks!

Remove all extra inheriting timing sections if they don't serve a purpose.

Beginner - Rename to Easy
01:06:62 (1) - No need for this to start a new combo.
01:28:00 (1) - Same as ^.
01:29:346 - Too small of a break, remove it.
01:34:20 (1) - Slightly not perfectly on top of the 2 slider end.
01:48:69 (2) - Slightly too close. Best to highlight 01:48:69 (2,3,1,2) - And move it together to the right by 1 lvl 3 grid unit.
01:50:07 (1) - No need to start a new combo.

Normal - What's with the useless Extra 2 timing sections, they don't add kiai, or change volume or hit samples...
01:10:24 (3) - This shouldn't be overlapped at all.
01:17:31 (4) - This is just live ^ but not as overlapped.
01:27:82 (4) - This isn't directly inline with the 3 slider.
01:45:24 (1) - Make a better symmetrical Heart slider and make it fit the song's lyrics.
02:18:86 (7,8) - I don't like how this is under the slider.
02:55:58 (3,4,5) - The 3 shouldn't be overlapped by the last slider/ hitcircle beforehand, best to move the whole combo a little
to the right upper diagonal with Distance Snap and Grid Snap off.

Virtuoso
01:11:27 (7) - This shouldn't be overlapped.
01:33:34 (7) - Same as ^.
02:39:55 (7) - Same as ^.
Starred' for it's structure and the song.

Metroid wrote:

Remove all extra inheriting timing sections if they don't serve a purpose.

Beginner - Rename to Easy
01:06:62 (1) - No need for this to start a new combo.
01:28:00 (1) - Same as ^.
01:29:346 - Too small of a break, remove it.
01:34:20 (1) - Slightly not perfectly on top of the 2 slider end.
01:48:69 (2) - Slightly too close. Best to highlight 01:48:69 (2,3,1,2) - And move it together to the right by 1 lvl 3 grid unit.
01:50:07 (1) - No need to start a new combo.

Normal - What's with the useless Extra 2 timing sections, they don't add kiai, or change volume or hit samples...
01:10:24 (3) - This shouldn't be overlapped at all.
01:17:31 (4) - This is just live ^ but not as overlapped.
01:27:82 (4) - This isn't directly inline with the 3 slider.
01:45:24 (1) - Make a better symmetrical Heart slider and make it fit the song's lyrics.
02:18:86 (7,8) - I don't like how this is under the slider.
02:55:58 (3,4,5) - The 3 shouldn't be overlapped by the last slider/ hitcircle beforehand, best to move the whole combo a little
to the right upper diagonal with Distance Snap and Grid Snap off.

Virtuoso
01:11:27 (7) - This shouldn't be overlapped.
01:33:34 (7) - Same as ^.
02:39:55 (7) - Same as ^.
Starred' for it's structure and the song.All fixed

Thanks for your input!

nice...

i like the normal mode sliders

STARRED

lalalla

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Starrodkirby86 wrote:

This map...is quite delicate. A lovely first map of yours.

Most of these are suggestions or silly nazi-mods.

[Prelude [Beginner]]:
01:01:79 (4) - Move 1 to the left on Grid Level 3.
01:07:31 (6) - What a short break.

[Nocturne [Normal]]:
00:28:34 (3) - Move 1 down on Grid Level 3.
00:31:79 (2) - Maybe this can get the same hitsound style as (1)?
00:42:13 (1) - If this is supposed to look like a music note, it's a little sloppy around the edges. XD HAHA I never intended it to be one! But now that you mention it...(goes to fix)
02:51:44 (6) - You should make this slider's endpoint a little less close to the (7) while letting the spacing be OK. The reason why I say this is because the next note looks almost like it's a 1/4 to it.

[Sonata [Virtuoso]]:
02:04:55 (3) - (Optional) New combo?
03:13:51 (1) - Move 1 down on Grid Level 3.

I don't understand the little tag after the name (Beginner, Normal, Virtuoso). Are they really necessary? The stars do tell what level of skill is needed. Iono - I enjoy having a "virtuoso" tag on the hardest one, so I'm having them there for consistency. I'll see how it turns out.

[Prelude [Beginner]] looked pretty unfriendly for a beginner, but that's okay because of the high forgiving of stats you put it...Makes it a good beginner map I guess if they don't get bombarded with Xs on the first go.

The map's also long, but you can't do much wrong with that.

Star.

All fixed! Thanks!

[Beginner]
00:31:10 (2,3) - make the end of these two stack properly
00:32:82 (2,1) - I feel bad about this overlap...
00:36:27 (1,2,3) - align properly
01:14:20 (3,1) - try to supress this overlap
01:34:20 (1,2) - (1) is not well stacked
01:36:96 (1) - ugly imo. make it nicer. (make it symetric and all 90°)

[Normal]
00:59:20 (2,3,4) - I feel bad about this...
01:09:03 (1) - This is not really important, but you can stack this under (8)
01:45:24 (1) - If you wanted to do a heart, it's not nice... work on it.
01:48:69 (2,3) - ugly overlap imo
03:02:48 (1) - stack under fading (4) / If you're mapping the lyrics, not great timing on end. finish it 1/4 beat earlier or later. your choice
03:08:86 (1) - sounds better 1/4 beat earlier

[Virtuoso]
01:23:51 (2,3) - sounds weird
03:24:20 (6,2) - improper stacking
03:31:44 (8,9) - ^
03:35:41 (4,5) - not a great overlap

nice map. have a star

[Overall]

- Heyhey, I can notice a slight BPM error... Add .005 to the BPM?
YES JUST .005
LEAVE ME ALONE D:

- Uhm uhm, it seems pretty useless to me the [Beginner], [Normal] and [Virtuoso] on each difficulty. It's fine the way it's right now though.


[Prelude [Beginner]]
Hmmm, Dont'cha think the spacing is abit too much for beginners?
Other than that I see no problems.

[Nocturne [Normal]]
00:40:07 (1) - Try it in test; It's hardly noticeable. Hidden sliders are no good.
Look at 00:59:20 (2,3) & 01:00:58 (5,6) - Can you notice? First is Beat+Slider, second is Slider+Beat. Make them the same?
01:45:24 (1) - I think this slider is too long. I think it would sound cool if you finish this slider at 01:47:311. Just a suggestion.
02:30:24 (4,5,6) - This looks really ugly in Test. It can confuse the player too.

Also, just a warning: Sliders with many repeats (Ex. 00:53:86 (5,6)) can be very confusing. Since there are no real rules about this, I'll just... skip it.

[Sonata [Virtuoso]]
00:47:65 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'm sure you can re-arrange these notes in a different way. (Just a suggestion)
02:30:07 (3,4,5,6) - ^
03:12:13 (4) - Oh yeah I noticed what you did here. Maybe as well replace 03:14:72 (5,6,7,8) with this slider?


So yeah, I like this map. Starred~

You mapped very well. Great job!

[Normal]
1:48:690(2)-> Slider is hiding this circle...... Not good (I think this circle can be an obstacle to be ranked.)

[Sonata]
3:13:518(1,5,6,7,8)-> Use a grid snap. It looks cleaner.

+Star.