This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 11:49:00 AM

Artist: V.K.
Title: Darkness
Source: Cytus
Tags: nivalis katty pie chapter 4 ch4 v.k kloudhsu
BPM: 95.6
Filesize: 2279kb
Play Time: 01:45
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (1.67 stars, 100 notes)
2. Hard (4.96 stars, 247 notes)
3. Insane (5 stars, 372 notes)
4. Pie's Normal (3.6 stars, 133 notes)

Download: V.K. - Darkness
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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@Acyl please stop reminding me of this map's existence aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

old map description (including attributions and extras)

...experimental mapping orz (trying a bit different mapping style) - mapped for fun :3

A song from Cytus' chapter IV, Normal done by Katty Pie

BG source : tinyurl.com/a8qsdhl | Cytus' official site
V.K.'s streetvoice | Download urs4chan's bonus CtB diff (hitsounded by me and was used for CatchTheBeat Indonesia Cup 2013 Quarter Finals) here

Contains melody from another V.K.'s track 'Intro ~未来へ~'

Can't believe you make this one too... I made a Darkness on 10 Feb (when the track has not been fixed) but don't know how to add hitsounds
Awesome map

Flower wrote:

Can't believe you make this one too... I made a Darkness on 10 Feb (when the track has not been fixed) but don't know how to add hitsounds
Awesome map

Thank you Flower, I'll do my best on this map~

I have the correct track long ago before it was fixed on Cytus orz (it's available under 未分類歌曲 section on his streetvoice website, result of my stalking orz :3)

I also have the full ver. of Dragon Warrior, Evil Force, Land Scape, etc. from my stalking result actually if you need it >_<

o.o/

My normal finished

Hi Niva (:3 」 _) =3

From #modreqs

[Easy]

00:27:629 (1) Slider is unbalanced. change -> http://puu.sh/2aC5j A beautiful shape that is recommended.

00:35:159 (1) add finish?

00:42:690 (1) This is slider shape change this? -> http://puu.sh/2aC7M

01:14:071 (1,2,3,4,1) This is pattern shape - > http://puu.sh/2aCfz <- change?

01:45:451 (2) add finish?


[Pie's Normal]


AR -1 ?

01:09:677 (5) slider end add clap

00:36:100 (2) remove slider and add note ? 00:37:669 (1,2,3,4,5) This is the same as

00:42:690 (1,2,3,4,5) The same as the previous pattern? -> 00:40:179 (1,2,3,4,5)

00:46:456 (3,4) remove note and add 1/2 slider?

00:50:849 (2,3) remove note and add 1/2 slider?

01:36:037 (2) 1 grid down


[Hard]

AR - 1?

00:16:175 (4) remove note and 5 slider 00:16:175 and 00:16:645 add note

01:45:451 add finish?


[Insane]

00:27:629 (1,2,3,4,5) This is patter shape, can be further improved.
-> http://puu.sh/2aCZd

01:45:451 (3) add finish?


Nice map ! Star !

Gloria Guard wrote:

Hi Niva (:3 」 _) =3

From #modreqs

[Easy]

00:27:629 (1) Slider is unbalanced. change -> http://puu.sh/2aC5j A beautiful shape that is recommended. Oh it's not intentional, fixed

00:35:159 (1) add finish? Other diffs doesn't use finish o.o

00:42:690 (1) This is slider shape change this? -> http://puu.sh/2aC7M Umm, don't really like that shape personally ._.

01:14:071 (1,2,3,4,1) This is pattern shape - > http://puu.sh/2aCfz <- change? Made it more balanced (hopefully~)

01:45:451 (2) add finish? Done

[Hard]

AR - 1? With the jumps AR8 is better I believe xD

00:16:175 (4) remove note and 5 slider 00:16:175 and 00:16:645 add note Oh, it's following vocals

01:45:451 add finish? Done


[Insane]

00:27:629 (1,2,3,4,5) This is patter shape, can be further improved.
-> http://puu.sh/2aCZd o.o? My current pentagon is good already I think >_<

01:45:451 (3) add finish? Done


Nice map ! Star !

Thank you Gloria Guard (:

Gloria Guard wrote:

[Pie's Normal]

AR -1 ?

01:09:677 (5) slider end add clap <-- here alredy clap~

00:36:100 (2) remove slider and add note ? 00:37:669 (1,2,3,4,5) This is the same as <--- No, slider sounds better here

00:42:690 (1,2,3,4,5) The same as the previous pattern? -> 00:40:179 (1,2,3,4,5) <--- hm don't see reason change it

00:46:456 (3,4) remove note and add 1/2 slider? <--- No, I prefer notes here

00:50:849 (2,3) remove note and add 1/2 slider? <--- ^

01:36:037 (2) 1 grid down <--- fixed

Thank you for mod~ http://puu.sh/2aJjp

niva,can iam taiko guest diff

Ah, I'm not planning to add any other difficulties to this mapset (including Taiko), sorry for that~

Updated Gloria Guard's mod! xD

Hi there; mod~

*Bolded = Unrankable or strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems.

>General

1. Is there a need for the BG's size to be over half a megabyte, actually...? It only bloats the package's size unnecessarily. Reduce to ~200 KB?

>Easy

1. 00:37:669 - Switch back the Addition to Auto and add finish here? It actually fits better with the sound here, IMO.
2. 00:42:690 - ^
3. 00:57:753 (1) - Sampleset Auto + Addition Normal + Finish? Well, I don't think I need to say the reason again, but same as the suggestion above.
4. 01:00:263 - 01:14:698 - Sampleset Drum + Addition Normal every second and fourth white tick?
5. 01:25:368 - Sampleset/Addition Auto and then whistle? Considering how quiet this spot is, there's definitely no need for the hitsound there to be THAT loud. A soft whistle should do.
6. 01:25:368 - 01:42:941 - Same as 01:00:263 - 01:14:698 (instead of whistle & clap).
7. 01:30:389 - Sampleset/Addition Auto + Whistle? The current one just feels too loud...
8. 01:37:606 - Whistle? (If you applied the hitsound suggestions, apply them to the other diffs too.)

>Pie's Normal

1. 00:34:526 (2) - Sampleset Drum + Addition Normal?
2. 00:51:163 (3,4) - Why does this stacking feels so random... Unstack them?
3. 01:22:857 (1) - Sampleset Drum + whistle?

'

>Hard

1. 00:36:728 (7) - Sampleset/Addition Auto? There's no reason to make the hitsound louder here, from what I can hear.
2. 00:39:238 - ^
3. 00:41:748 - ^
4. 00:59:322 (5) - NC considering the change of spacing that continues slightly longer than usual (the spacing changes usually happen only between two objects, but we have three here)?
5. 01:26:623 (1) - ...The second repeat is kinda unexpected, IMO. Maybe make it repeat once and add a circle then stack it below the slider's head, 1/2 beats after that slider? (This applies to other sliders like this at 01:26:623 - 01:32:742.)

>Insane

1. ...Reduce the HP, AR, and OD by 1? HP8, AR9, and OD8 is... still kinda extreme for an Insane, even if it's 95.6 BPM @ 3.4 SV. I'd rather use that kind of setting for an Extra diff. This map plays far better with AR8 anyways.
2. 01:34:468 (4) - NC to denote the sudden spacing change on 01:34:468 (4,5,6) so it will be more readable?
3. 01:44:824 (2) - Add whistle to follow the music?

Uhm, that's it I guess?

Good luck on the way

Hinsvar wrote:

Hi there; mod~

*Bolded = Unrankable or strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems.

>General

1. Is there a need for the BG's size to be over half a megabyte, actually...? It only bloats the package's size unnecessarily. Reduce to ~200 KB? Umm... Will do later~

>Easy

1. 00:37:669 - Switch back the Addition to Auto and add finish here? It actually fits better with the sound here, IMO.
2. 00:42:690 - ^
3. 00:57:753 (1) - Sampleset Auto + Addition Normal + Finish? Well, I don't think I need to say the reason again, but same as the suggestion above. Done except the second one (want to keep the whistle there), this only works on Easy unfortunately ._.
4. 01:00:263 - 01:14:698 - Sampleset Drum + Addition Normal every second and fourth white tick? Umm, too loud imo...
5. 01:25:368 - Sampleset/Addition Auto and then whistle? Considering how quiet this spot is, there's definitely no need for the hitsound there to be THAT loud. A soft whistle should do.
6. 01:25:368 - 01:42:941 - Same as 01:00:263 - 01:14:698 (instead of whistle & clap).
7. 01:30:389 - Sampleset/Addition Auto + Whistle? The current one just feels too loud... I want to keep consistency with my higher diffs here...
8. 01:37:606 - Whistle? (If you applied the hitsound suggestions, apply them to the other diffs too.) Oh this is good suggestion, fixed :3

>Hard

1. 00:36:728 (7) - Sampleset/Addition Auto? There's no reason to make the hitsound louder here, from what I can hear.
2. 00:39:238 - ^
3. 00:41:748 - ^ There is (bass drop) if you listen to the song carefully actually xD
4. 00:59:322 (5) - NC considering the change of spacing that continues slightly longer than usual (the spacing changes usually happen only between two objects, but we have three here)? Done
5. 01:26:623 (1) - ...The second repeat is kinda unexpected, IMO. Maybe make it repeat once and add a circle then stack it below the slider's head, 1/2 beats after that slider? (This applies to other sliders like this at 01:26:623 - 01:32:742.) I got this idea from Alace's maps orz, circle doesn't really give a correct feeling from the song imo...

>Insane

1. ...Reduce the HP, AR, and OD by 1? HP8, AR9, and OD8 is... still kinda extreme for an Insane, even if it's 95.6 BPM @ 3.4 SV. I'd rather use that kind of setting for an Extra diff. This map plays far better with AR8 anyways. [/color]
2. 01:34:468 (4) - NC to denote the sudden spacing change on 01:34:468 (4,5,6) so it will be more readable? Actually if I added a NC here it should be on (3) not (4), but the new comboing here will be (1-2-3)(1-2)(1-2-3-4) which will make the (1-2) doesn't look good at all imo ._.
3. 01:44:824 (2) - Add whistle to follow the music? Ah, I want to make it same with other diffs (clap)

Uhm, that's it I guess?

Good luck on the way

Thanks Hinsvar, will upload soon (:

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Hi there both pro mapper
99% of them are suggestion lalalalla =w=

perfect as always lalala (:'''3)rzrzrzrzrzrzrz

good luck bn___n)b

- t e n n y a - wrote:

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Hi there both pro mapper
99% of them are suggestion lalalalla =w=

General

1. v.k do this tag really needed? Since it the same as song artist Oh, about this, some sources are saying the artist is V.K while in the Cytus game it's listed as V.K. - I'll leaving it there, just in case (:
2. Add muted slider slide? current one is noisy imo (Specially at Normal and Easy diff) Umm, again, leaving for now personally ._.
3. Normal star rate 3.60, Hard star rate 4.96 while Insane is 4.98? I think the diff spread is broken, prefer to add more easier hard? >w>a

Easy

1. 00:57:753 (1)- : add finish here? higher pitch I suppose
2. 01:27:878 (1)- : same suggestion as above
   
   Done both

Hard

1. AR-1 ? AR8 is better when I played it imo (especially with the jumps and DT :3)
2. 00:16:332 (5)- : add whistle on slider tail? Done
3. 00:24:648 (3)- : make this slider place to x176 y38 to make symmetry with slider 1 =w=a Oh, it's intentional >_<
4. 00:37:669 (1)- : add finish on slider head? Yep
5. To see rhythm pattern at 00:49:751 (3,1) err how about add clap at 00:52:575 (3)- here? Oh, no clap from the song here ._.
6. 00:59:479 (6)- : add whistle at slider head? if you do so then add clap at 00:59:949 (7)- here? owo Umm, again I'm following the song here, clap should be on 00:59:635 actually~
7. 01:45:451 (1)- : remove nc here? since you didn't use new combo at easy diff? Oh, I'll NC that one on Easy instead

Insane

1. 00:31:221 (3,4,5)- : why circle 4 at there.... (:3)rz fix 4 the distance into 1.40 is very recommended (:3)rz Fixed this one, should be good now xD

perfect as always lalala (:'''3)rzrzrzrzrzrzrz

good luck bn___n)b

Thanks, uploaded my diffs for now (still waiting for Katty Pie's response (: )

Hi Niva~ Mod

Pie's Normal
00:10:997 (2) - Move this a bit down? Like this : 00:19:156 (2) - Move up a bit? : 00:22:294 (5) - Whistle? =)

Hard diff
00:22:451 (3) - Ini naikin ke atas dikit? =)
00:28:570 (4) - Ini naikin juga ke atas, lebih bagus imo, spt ini: 00:31:066 (2) - Clap?
00:32:303 (1) - Clap lagi? xD

That's all Hope this map ranked as soon as possible

Awoken- wrote:

Hi Niva~ Mod

Hard diff
00:22:451 (3) - Ini naikin ke atas dikit? =) Done
00:28:570 (4) - Ini naikin juga ke atas, lebih bagus imo, spt ini: Oh, itu endpoint slider jump, memang sengaja dibuatnya begitu supaya nggak overlap~

SPOILER

00:31:066 (2) - Clap?
00:32:303 (1) - Clap lagi? xD Umm, ini sengaja kok (di Insane nggak ada clap soalnya :3)

That's all Hope this map ranked as soon as possible

Thanks Awoken~

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EDIT : Thanks also ThoomyyxD, updated Katty Pie's fixes below (:

Good Map :3

Thanks for mod all :3 fixed hitsounds from Hinsvar and moe moe tennya :3 http://puu.sh/2fTnP

~General~

I don't think the Audio Lead-In you're using is necessary, remove it.

~Easy~

00:19:784 (4,1) - I'd try to avoid such overlaps on the easiest difficulty, they might confuse beginners imo.
00:24:491 (2) - This circle is almost off-screen, what do you think about moving it up a bit? It would be better, I think.
00:29:825 (3,1) - Like I said before, try to not overlap them in this way.
00:56:497 (2,1) - Again, these circles are almost off-screen, move them up a bit, please.
01:23:485 (2) - ^ Same goes for this circle.
01:27:251 (2) - ^ And this, as well.
01:32:899 (1) - ^ This is a slider, though.
01:41:686 (3) - I'd prefer if you place this slider above the previous one, to avoid confusion.
01:45:451 (1) - I don't think this new combo here is necessary, just remove it.

~Pie's Normal~

00:16:645 (3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing, fix it manually.
00:51:163 (3,4) - I'd prefer if you try to avoid such stacks, they might confuse players.
01:30:075 (6,1) - ^ Same goes with this one.

~Hard~

00:37:355 (9,1) - I can see what's your intention here, but I don't like how does it sound.
00:55:870 (3) - This slider is almost off-screen, move it up a bit.
00:57:125 (5) - ^ Since it's a copy of the previous one.
01:03:872 (2) - Again, this slider is almost off-screen.
01:22:857 (1,2) - This pattern might be confusing since you made the same with the other sliders that ended on blue tick instead.
01:25:995 (5) - New combo due to the spacing change.
01:26:623 (1) - Then I'd remove this one.
01:28:506 (5) - Same as 01:25:995.
01:29:133 (1) - Same as 01:28:506.
01:31:016 (5) - Same as 01:25:995.
01:31:644 (1) - Same as 01:28:506.
01:45:451 (1) - Remove this new combo, you don't need it.

~Insane~

00:11:311 (9) - New combo due to the new stanza.
00:13:821 (5) - This slider is almost off-screen, try to move it up a bit.
00:16:332 (9) - New combo due to the new stanza, again.
00:21:353 (9) - ^ Same here.
00:46:456 (9) - ^ And here.
00:48:966 (9) - ^ And here, again.
00:51:476 (9) - ^ I'm sure if you follow this, new combos would be much better and less longer.
01:34:154 (3) - New combo due to the spacing change.

I hope this can help you. Awesome map like always, Niva! :3

Andrea wrote:

~Pie's Normal~
00:16:645 (3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing, fix it manually. <--- Fixed
00:51:163 (3,4) - I'd prefer if you try to avoid such stacks, they might confuse players.
01:30:075 (6,1) - ^ Same goes with this one.
<--- I think map without stack notes boooring~ And for normal doff it's ok~

Thank you for mod~

http://puu.sh/2gZNq