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Renard - MAKE BELIEVE

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Topic Starter
Lally
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercoledì 1 maggio 2013 at 00.31.07

Artist: Renard
Title: MAKE BELIEVE
Tags: lapfox ztrot ROBOT BRAINSTRONAUT BLASTOFF​!​!​!
BPM: 210
Filesize: 3826kb
Play Time: 03:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,22 stars, 120 notes)
  2. Hard (4,84 stars, 387 notes)
  3. Normal (2,98 stars, 184 notes)
Download: Renard - MAKE BELIEVE
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#11mappu (๑╹ω╹๑)


can you make believe
can you touch the sky
can you come back down
look into my eyes



Mapset:
Easy -> Me
Normal -> Me
Hard -> Collab -> Me & ztrot
Ty Roxas for SB names :3
Nemis
Offset 9.163 sounds better to me. The actual offset (9.178) is late I think...

good luck bb <3
Topic Starter
Lally
grazie :D
Silverboxer
Love the song, love the map, but one question. Why did you use Mischief and Mayhem colors + bg when the song is from Renard? d:
Topic Starter
Lally
T_T i could not find a good Renard BG that was not already used T_T

/me sad
Silverboxer
Here, I made this background for you http://i.imgur.com/kZokWLl.png
I just used the first picture of renard from the album I could find haha
Topic Starter
Lally
uuh i like it :D i'll use it ty very much >u< wanted something happy in the way \o3o/
Roxas
Here's the code as talked in irc

da code sis (?)
[Events]
//Background and Video events
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\Lally.png",90,420
S,0,18305,36894,0.5
F,0,18305,18608,0,1
F,0,36608,36894,1,0
S,0,55465,73465,0.5
F,0,55465,55751,0,1
F,0,73179,73465,1,0
S,0,110037,110322,0.5
F,0,110037,110322,0,1
F,0,127179,127465,1,0
S,0,165179,183179,0.5
F,0,165179,165465,0,1
F,0,182894,183179,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\ztrot.png",525,420
S,0,37179,55179,0.5
F,0,37179,37465,0,1
F,0,54894,55179,1,0
S,0,91465,109751,0.5
F,0,91465,91751,0,1
F,0,109465,109751,1,0
F,0,128037,128322,0,1
F,0,146037,146322,1,0
L,128037,7
S,0,0,142,0.5,0.53
S,0,142,285,0.53,0.5
S,0,285,428,0.5
S,0,428,571,0.5,0.53
S,0,571,714,0.53,0.5
S,0,714,1142,0.5
L,136037,7
S,0,0,142,0.5,0.53
S,0,142,285,0.53,0.5
S,0,285,428,0.5
S,0,428,571,0.5,0.53
S,0,571,714,0.53,0.5
S,0,714,1142,0.5
S,0,183465,201179,0.5
F,0,183465,183751,0,1
F,0,200894,201179,1,0
//Storyboard Sound Samples
Topic Starter
Lally
Ty for SB and the fixes \o3o/

updated :3 <3
Cloudchaser
Why Lally is mapping Renard? o3o pro

I wanna see moar moe maps of u ;_;
Topic Starter
Lally
I just wanna try to map something different :3
and i like this song so why don't try to map it? \:D/
ztrot
http://puu.sh/2rgSu finished diff feel free to change anything you need to for me btw
Topic Starter
Lally
Ty ztrot \o3o/ i prefer to don't do changes since i don't think are neded òwò

Update C:
ztrot
sounds good then! :P
Topic Starter
Lally
Pending \o3o/ wuhuuu
Andrea
~General~
  1. Background seems to be low quality, try to find a better one if possible.
  2. Countdown and Letterbox on Easy difficulty are different from the other difficulties, please make them consistent with the rest of the difficulties.
~Easy~
  1. 00:33:608 (2,3) - This thyrhm might be confusing at first sight for beginners, better make it as a slider.
  2. 00:35:751 (5) - Too many slider repeats might be confusing to read for beginners, please do something else.
  3. 01:12:608 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not necessary at all.
  4. 01:46:751 (2,3) - This thyrhm might be confusing at first sight for beginners, better make it as a slider.
  5. 03:20:322 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not necessary at all.
~Normal~
  1. 00:27:465 (3,1) - New combo should go on (3) and not on (1) to follow the music and stanza change.
  2. 00:29:751 (2,1) - Try avoid stacking these objects together, they might be confusing for beginners to read.
  3. 00:45:751 (6,1) - Same as above for the same reason, please try to change it in a different way.
  4. 00:50:322 (6,1) - Once again, I'm sure you could avoid this.
  5. 01:08:037 (4,1) - And here as well, I don't really think they're necessary.
  6. 01:12:037 (5,1) - New combo should go on (5) and not on (1) to follow the music and stanza change.
  7. 01:46:751 (2,3) - This thyrhm might be confusing at first sight for beginners, better make it as a slider.
  8. 01:49:751 (1,2,3) - Some more stacks that I think you should try to avoid, they're not needed.
  9. 02:09:751 (4,1) - New combo should go on (4) and not on (1) to follow the music and stanza change.
  10. 02:16:608 (3,4,1) - Some more stacks that I think you should try to avoid, they're not needed.
  11. 02:37:751 (1) - Add a finish at the end of this spinner, it seems that you've missed it.
  12. 02:46:608 (2,3) - Wrong spacing, please make sure to fix this with using the distance snap properly and correctly.
  13. 02:51:751 (3,4) - You know what I'm going to say about this stack.
  14. 03:00:894 (3,4) - Same as above once again.
  15. 03:10:037 (3,4) - And here as well.
  16. 03:15:465 (5,1) - These sliders could be stacked together each other if you disable the grid snap and move them manually.
  17. 03:19:179 (4,5) - You know what I'm going to say about this stack.
  18. 03:20:608 (1) - Remove this single combo from here, it's not necessary to have it at all, add it on (4) instead.
~Hard~
  1. 00:33:751 (4) - This slider actually sounds better if moved 1/4 backwards.
  2. 01:13:179 (1) - I don't really like where you've placed this circle, doesn't flow and play so good, try to make it like this instead.
  3. 01:34:608 (3,4) - I know you wanted to make a blanket here, but this anti-jump doesn't really play well to me, place it somewhere else instead.
  4. 01:49:751 - It feels like you're missing a main beat here, please make sure to add it and also add a finish on it.
  5. 02:03:465 (1,2) - These sliders could be stacked better together, try to disable grid snap and replace them manually.
  6. 02:17:179 (8) - Add a finish on this circle to emphasize with the strong beat of the song.
  7. 02:22:894 (3,4,5) - Missing main finish on both slider starts and on the last circle, please add them.
  8. 02:23:894 (1) - Again, another important finish is missing at the end of this spinner.
  9. 03:02:894 (1) - Remove this single combo from here, it's not necessary.
  10. 03:07:465 (1) - Same as above for the same reason.
  11. 03:15:465 (5) - New combo due to the new stanza and music change.
Topic Starter
Lally
Andrea

Andrea wrote:

~General~
  1. Background seems to be low quality, try to find a better one if possible. meh
  2. Countdown and Letterbox on Easy difficulty are different from the other difficulties, please make them consistent with the rest of the difficulties.fixed
~Easy~
  1. 00:33:608 (2,3) - This thyrhm might be confusing at first sight for beginners, better make it as a slider. i'm not sure about this i'll wait to do changes here
  2. 00:35:751 (5) - Too many slider repeats might be confusing to read for beginners, please do something else. same about because if i place a circle it will be more difficult to read
  3. 01:12:608 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not necessary at all. i like it here lalalal C:
  4. 01:46:751 (2,3) - This thyrhm might be confusing at first sight for beginners, better make it as a slider. same as the prev
  5. 03:20:322 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not necessary at all. i like it here :3
~Normal~
  1. 00:27:465 (3,1) - New combo should go on (3) and not on (1) to follow the music and stanza change. fixed
  2. 00:29:751 (2,1) - Try avoid stacking these objects together, they might be confusing for beginners to read. è una normal andre .-. c'è la easy se non vogliono stack
  3. 00:45:751 (6,1) - Same as above for the same reason, please try to change it in a different way.-^
  4. 00:50:322 (6,1) - Once again, I'm sure you could avoid this.-^
  5. 01:08:037 (4,1) - And here as well, I don't really think they're necessary.-^
  6. 01:12:037 (5,1) - New combo should go on (5) and not on (1) to follow the music and stanza change. no changes here since it's only to good looking this (1) - NC
  7. 01:46:751 (2,3) - This thyrhm might be confusing at first sight for beginners, better make it as a slider. i don't think so here
  8. 01:49:751 (1,2,3) - Some more stacks that I think you should try to avoid, they're not needed.again
  9. 02:09:751 (4,1) - New combo should go on (4) and not on (1) to follow the music and stanza change. i follow the vocal here so no changes
  10. 02:16:608 (3,4,1) - Some more stacks that I think you should try to avoid, they're not needed.-^
  11. 02:37:751 (1) - Add a finish at the end of this spinner, it seems that you've missed it. missed a normal sampleset not a finish here :3
  12. 02:46:608 (2,3) - Wrong spacing, please make sure to fix this with using the distance snap properly and correctly. fixed
  13. 02:51:751 (3,4) - You know what I'm going to say about this stack.and i'm going to say no again
  14. 03:00:894 (3,4) - Same as above once again.-^
  15. 03:10:037 (3,4) - And here as well.-^
  16. 03:15:465 (5,1) - These sliders could be stacked together each other if you disable the grid snap and move them manually. fixed with better stack
  17. 03:19:179 (4,5) - You know what I'm going to say about this stack.again
  18. 03:20:608 (1) - Remove this single combo from here, it's not necessary to have it at all, add it on (4) instead.i like it here so no.

    I'm not going to change any stack in Normal diff since for the beginners i did a EASY diff without any stacks.
~Hard~
  1. 00:33:751 (4) - This slider actually sounds better if moved 1/4 backwards. changes in 2 circles for a better sound
  2. 01:13:179 (1) - I don't really like where you've placed this circle, doesn't flow and play so good, try to make it like this instead. fixed
  3. 01:34:608 (3,4) - I know you wanted to make a blanket here, but this anti-jump doesn't really play well to me, place it somewhere else instead i don't think so, the spacing has only 0.10 difference and i don't thins is a big anti-jump
  4. 01:49:751 - It feels like you're missing a main beat here, please make sure to add it and also add a finish on it. added a circle
  5. 02:03:465 (1,2) - These sliders could be stacked better together, try to disable grid snap and replace them manually. fixed
  6. 02:17:179 (8) - Add a finish on this circle to emphasize with the strong beat of the song. added a normal sampleset not a finish
  7. 02:22:894 (3,4,5) - Missing main finish on both slider starts and on the last circle, please add them.added a finish and 2 normal sampleset here not only finishes
  8. 02:23:894 (1) - Again, another important finish is missing at the end of this spinner. added a normal finish here
  9. 03:02:894 (1) - Remove this single combo from here, it's not necessary. ok
  10. 03:07:465 (1) - Same as above for the same reason. ok
  11. 03:15:465 (5) - New combo due to the new stanza and music change. ok

Ty for modding baka C:

Update C:
Helios_Zul
I Think
00:44:179
00:45:322
00:48:751
00:49:894
00:51:037
on hard more better without whistle sound

Add circle hit on
00:52:179
00:57:608
If you want :) 8-) 8-)
Topic Starter
Lally
no changes sorry because it will be really empty without whistles and of adding circles is not neded because if i add at 00:57:596 - i need to add at 00:58:453 - too for following the pattern so no, in ztrot's part it sound not good because it isn't any sound there so no changes ty for trying >u<




changes:
  1. timing change
  2. fixed bugged slider
Update :3
Stefan
I've got muscle achemed but I will mod it now. (Thank god that you don't have Taiko Diffs. orz)

[General]
- Not sure if this is a big issue but it's easy to fix. In the Area [Events] at all of your Diffs you got
//Background and Video events
0,0,"owo.jpg",1,1
instead of
//Background and Video events
0,0,"owo.jpg",0,0

This cause that the BG is displaced for one pixel if you play/test. Fix that please.

[Easy]
00:33:596 (2,3) - 1/1 then 1/2 then again 1/1 with Circles is a critical point which I really don't support to do. Remove the Circles and make a Slider instead. And add at the End then a Finish?
00:41:168 (5) - I find to keep this without Finish but as normal Hitsound sounds better.
00:54:882 - 01:13:168 - Meh.. I find 80% too loud. Especially the Claps sounds much too loud.
01:36:596 (1,2,3) - How about that? http://puu.sh/2uivy ( (2) would be in this way better because it would hold the long sound from 01:38:025 until 01:38:453. Then the End would fit the same like the current Start of (3). And (3) on the Picture would fill the rest. If you're going to deny it I hope it's not because of the Consitency between (2,3). :<)
01:46:739 (2,3) - Same story as 00:33:596 (2,3).
01:41:167 (1,2,3) - Like 01:36:596 (1,2,3) but you could involve (4) too and making that: http://puu.sh/2uiIJ
01:49:739 (1) - Add this to your folder and add it then to the Start. It sounds wonderful.
01:58:882 (1) - Here too.
02:08:025 (1) - Here too.
02:16:596 (2) - Here too, at the End.
02:45:168 - 03:02:882 - Please decrease the Volume to 45%. I find it too loud here and the Song is here more on a calm part. :c

[Normal]
00:47:739 (2) - Hold Shift and move it that it makes a good diagonal Line with (1). From now it looks a bit misplaced.
00:50:310 (6) - Make it please consistent with 00:41:168 (4) that you use normal Hitsound here.
00:54:882 - 01:13:168 - Same what I said in Easy.
01:12:882 - Why are you not put a Circle here? :c I find a complete beat would be missing.
01:56:025 (3) - Move the last white and the red Sliderpoint one grid at left. The room between (3) and (1) seems more symmetric if you move them so.
02:24:025 (4,5) - No.. you're mapping on a Non-Beat-Part. The best thing you can do is to use a Spinner (like in Easy/Hard) or you can do this.
03:14:310 (3) - The rhythm here would work better if you add a Slider at 03:14:025 until 03:14:596.
03:17:739 (2,3) - (2) here is just bleh.. remove (3) and extend (2) until 03:18:168.

[Hard]
00:33:168 (3,4) - I see no reason to end (3) at the blue Tick. It sounds off and it plays much better on the white Tick. (Yeah it's a Hard Diff but we want that it fits with the Song too)
00:34:739 (2,3) - Actually if you move it one grid up I find the diagonal better. If you do that fix (3) by holding Shift.
01:32:025 (2) - Whistle?
01:32:596 (4) - ^ on the Begin and End.
01:34:025 (1) - ^ on the End.
01:52:167 (2) - I find that it will be better if you move it to 01:53:025. The flow is much better and it plays better to the Song.
03:01:882 (2) - The Triplet is misleading here imo, I perfer this without it.

Neat stuff~
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