starr'd, pertinent comments in bold
(SFG|Rh) so lets start
Insane and when you find something you think deserves mentioning, tell me
(SFG|Rh) 00:56:40 (4)(HaraIRC) What about the 4?
(SFG|Rh) new combo, i think(SFG|Rh) its a long distance after 3
(SFG|Rh) and a different musical phrase
(HaraIRC) Hmm.
(HaraIRC) It's the same sentence though.
(SFG|Rh) it might be the same sentence but its not the same musical phrase
(HaraIRC) So?
(SFG|Rh) i mean its so interrupted its hard to see the connection
(HaraIRC) I'm fine with both actually, I would leave it up to Vyta to decide for that. (SFG|Rh) fair enough
(HaraIRC) Hmm.
(HaraIRC) 01:03:153 (9)
(SFG|Rh) 01:02:40 (5) before i forget this is like the 4 before(SFG|Rh) its separated but i guess the same sentence
(SFG|Rh) now, what about the 9?
(HaraIRC) Compare the distance between 5 - 8 and 8-9(SFG|Rh) 8 isnt quite centered yeah
(HaraIRC) Wait no.
(HaraIRC) It's 9 and 10 that's wrong.
(HaraIRC) Or.
(HaraIRC) Wait.
(SFG|Rh) it looks to me like 8 should be closer to 9
(SFG|Rh) i mean
(SFG|Rh) switch that
(HaraIRC) Further away?
(HaraIRC) What?
(SFG|Rh) 9 should be a smidge closer to 8(HaraIRC) Ohh ya.
(SFG|Rh) i said to move 8 lol
(SFG|Rh) i meant move 9
(HaraIRC) Well, 9-10 needs to be moved up-left(SFG|Rh) yeah
(SFG|Rh) not that big but i see it
(HaraIRC) Okay, that 5 was like before yes.
(SFG|Rh) okay
(SFG|Rh) 01:08:40 (5) same argument i was using before
(HaraIRC) 02:27:341 (8) - Why a sudden straight slider?(HaraIRC) I mean, you know.
(SFG|Rh) it isnt straight
(SFG|Rh) it bends
(SFG|Rh) it fits to me(HaraIRC) I meant that the curves are uhhh
(HaraIRC) It should be curved, not straight.
(SFG|Rh) why?
(HaraIRC) The one before in the map was :S
(SFG|Rh) hm
(SFG|Rh) i say its vyts decision(HaraIRC) Ya...
(SFG|Rh) also
(SFG|Rh) 02:42:52 (1)(SFG|Rh) i think this would sound better with a hitsound?
(HaraIRC) Hmm... Ya.
(HaraIRC) It sounds kinda blank atm.
(SFG|Rh) which hitsound?
(SFG|Rh) i was thinking finish
(SFG|Rh) but i can kinda see clap too
(HaraIRC) I like finish.(SFG|Rh) okay
(SFG|Rh) 03:06:52 (1)(SFG|Rh) again it sounds like it would like a hitsound
(HaraIRC) Whistle sounds too cheery and Clap too much.
<SFG|Rh> there are whistles in here that sound good though
<HaraIRC> I meant on that last spinner.
<SFG|Rh> oh
<SFG|Rh> well the last one was a finish
<SFG|Rh> what do you think of a finish on this one too?
<HaraIRC> Yes. It adds an extra bit of ompf that is needed. <SFG|Rh> ^_^ cool
<SFG|Rh> move on to
Hard?
<HaraIRC> The symmetry was spot on mostly so ya.
<HaraIRC> Ohh damn, this dif is making me crinch all over in symmetry
<SFG|Rh> lol
<SFG|Rh> id just reached 00:51:34 (4) <SFG|Rh> and was cringing about how it didnt flow from 3
<SFG|Rh> and when i say that i mean it didnt line up with the vector from 3 <SFG|Rh> its slightly off
<HaraIRC> Ya.
<HaraIRC> That one is fixable.
<SFG|Rh> mhm
<SFG|Rh> so what symmetry problems are you seeing?
<HaraIRC> He uses slight angles changes from a straight line that wasn't facing an angle.
<HaraIRC> Which isn't a problem, just makes me crinch.
<SFG|Rh> oic
<SFG|Rh> 01:10:09 (1)
<SFG|Rh> is it just me or does this end in a kinda weird spot? <HaraIRC> Hitsound?
<HaraIRC> Ehhh...
<SFG|Rh> nah it has a finish
<HaraIRC> I don't like it at all, and the finish is too loud tbh.
<SFG|Rh> try ending one beat earlier
<HaraIRC> Sounds better. <SFG|Rh> i thought so too
<SFG|Rh> is there a better place than that though?
<SFG|Rh> im not having any luck...
<HaraIRC> 2 beats back sounds good too but that makes it too short since he doesn't start it on the (7) but places a note before it.
<SFG|Rh> yeah
<SFG|Rh> imo it sounds better one beat back
<SFG|Rh> so its sortof like
<SFG|Rh> hit, HIT
<SFG|Rh> so the finish doesnt sound as raucious
<HaraIRC> Ya.
<HaraIRC> 01:24:153 (1) - end angle? <HaraIRC> I would move it more left and fix the ending of it.
<SFG|Rh> im not sure i quite see what youre getting at
<HaraIRC> Or well, atleast fix the end of it.
<SFG|Rh> you think it should end level and pointing at 2? <HaraIRC> Ya.
<SFG|Rh> hm
<SFG|Rh> that sounds like vyts call <SFG|Rh> worthy of mention though
<HaraIRC> If he wants his map ugly or not.
<HaraIRC> Yes.
<SFG|Rh> lol
<HaraIRC> ;D
<SFG|Rh> the next one has the same issue <HaraIRC> Ya...
<HaraIRC> But it looks better up there.
<SFG|Rh> it comes up a lot actually... <HaraIRC> Weirdly.
<SFG|Rh> huh
<SFG|Rh> fffff
<SFG|Rh> 01:48:34 (1)
<SFG|Rh> its travelling at half the speed of the preceding beats.. <SFG|Rh> just out of nowhere
<HaraIRC> I have no problem with that actually. <SFG|Rh> really?
<SFG|Rh> it seems jerky to me
<SFG|Rh> 02:31:27 (4,5) <SFG|Rh> am i rushing you?
<HaraIRC> Slow down.
<SFG|Rh> lol
<HaraIRC> 02:07:653 (6) needs to be moved up 1 grid. <SFG|Rh> imo it makes a worse triangle moving it up
<SFG|Rh> thats meant to be a nice pretty triangle and if you do that its less pretty
<HaraIRC> No, it makes it correct.
<HaraIRC> And looks better.
<SFG|Rh> see i dont think it makes it look better <HaraIRC> ;S
<SFG|Rh> oh well
<HaraIRC> Okay.
<HaraIRC> 4-5
<HaraIRC> What's the problem? <SFG|Rh> look how they line up with each other
<HaraIRC> Nothing wrong there?
<SFG|Rh> :/
<SFG|Rh> i guess this is another aesthetic dispute <HaraIRC> 02:19:278 (4,5) is the same.
<SFG|Rh> yeah i know
<SFG|Rh> eh
<SFG|Rh> ill drop it
<HaraIRC> For now.
<SFG|Rh> of course
<HaraIRC> 02:36:341 - 3 - Move up 3 pixels? <HaraIRC> Or just 2?
<SFG|Rh> 3 pixels?
<SFG|Rh> youre going a lot nazi here
<SFG|Rh> i dont think players will care in the slightest
<HaraIRC> It needs to be aligned with end of (2).
<HaraIRC> I don't think that's the point.
<SFG|Rh> i do
<SFG|Rh> maps are for players
<HaraIRC> And I will care :<
<HaraIRC> I play :<
<SFG|Rh> okay ill tell you what
<SFG|Rh> right now go to the previous break
<SFG|Rh> play through
<SFG|Rh> and pause when you hit that section
<SFG|Rh> if you can find it while playing, ill yeild
<HaraIRC> Ahh, Kiai is going.
<SFG|Rh> i thought thered be kiai in there
<HaraIRC> I forgot that was going.
<HaraIRC> Then I can be lenient on pixels. <SFG|Rh> :P
<SFG|Rh> move on to Normal?
<HaraIRC> 2 sec.
<SFG|Rh> ok
<HaraIRC> Uhhh.
<SFG|Rh> ?
<HaraIRC> 02:29:216 (1,2) <HaraIRC> Why is 1 not under 2?
<SFG|Rh> youre right
<SFG|Rh> 2 is a grid too far west
<HaraIRC> Or the other way around. <SFG|Rh> yeah
<HaraIRC> Since it looks better with (2)'s ending.
<SFG|Rh> and 1 is right after a spinner
<SFG|Rh> so placement matters lest
<SFG|Rh> *less
<HaraIRC> Okay
normal.
<SFG|Rh> okay :3
<SFG|Rh> 00:34:84 (2)
<SFG|Rh> the spacing seems a tad off <HaraIRC> 2 sec
<SFG|Rh> kk
<HaraIRC> It's very slightly off compared to 3-1 yes. <SFG|Rh> yeah...
<SFG|Rh> is it worth it?
<HaraIRC> Worth it?
<SFG|Rh> yeah
<HaraIRC> Every pixel is worth it.
<SFG|Rh> lol
<HaraIRC> You have gone soft SFG.
<HaraIRC> You dissapoint me.
<SFG|Rh> i dont like to be overly nazi
<SFG|Rh> not on spacing and such anyways
<HaraIRC> BAThood changes people. The Dark Side I sense within you.
<SFG|Rh> lol
<HaraIRC> 00:38:216 (2) Uhhhh...
<HaraIRC> Overly close to 1?
<SFG|Rh> not really
<HaraIRC> Meh, maybe I can be lenient on normal. <SFG|Rh> ^_^
<SFG|Rh> 01:08:59 (1,2,3,4) <HaraIRC> Too close?
<HaraIRC> Ohh wait
<HaraIRC> hitsounds?
<SFG|Rh> i was actually think-yeah
<HaraIRC> Ya...
<HaraIRC> Ouch.
<SFG|Rh> it feels weird to just have four whistles all of a sudden <HaraIRC> Ya...
<HaraIRC> With that speed.
<SFG|Rh> yeah
<SFG|Rh> i can almost see like alternating claps?
<SFG|Rh> on 1 and 3 <HaraIRC> Ya, maybe.
<SFG|Rh> try it
<HaraIRC> If he lowered the volume of that section.
<HaraIRC> Because the spinner is waaaay to loud.
<SFG|Rh> yeah the volume is max
<SFG|Rh> lemme try it down one tick
<SFG|Rh> oh wait!
<SFG|Rh> Hara try ending that spinner one beat later <SFG|Rh> theres a finish in the song there
<HaraIRC> Better, but 1,2,3,4 still sound too loud without going down at least 1 tick in volume.
<SFG|Rh> okay
<SFG|Rh> id actually say down 2 ticks
<SFG|Rh> or maybe 1.5
<SFG|Rh> and end the spinner one beat later <HaraIRC> Ya. 1.5-2 sounds good.
<HaraIRC> Ye
<SFG|Rh> kk
<HaraIRC> 01:23:216 (1) <HaraIRC> Uhh, why is that to the left of (2) which isn't gridsnapped to the grid line?
<HaraIRC> Wait, nvm grid snapping since he apparently isn't using it here.
<SFG|Rh> i assume because vyt wasnt using grid snap <SFG|Rh> lol
<SFG|Rh> although
<SFG|Rh> what do you think about hitsounding it
<SFG|Rh> well 3 already has hitsounds
<HaraIRC> 3 has nothing :S
<SFG|Rh> it has whistles
<HaraIRC> 01:27:153 (1)
<HaraIRC> Doesn't the start of that go weird with (3)?
<HaraIRC> Meh, nvm, it was just me.
<SFG|Rh> i think it would look better a bit lower
<HaraIRC> Okay, then it wasn't me.
<HaraIRC> Just a little.
<SFG|Rh> mhm
<SFG|Rh> 01:32:96 (4)
<SFG|Rh> the whistle sounds kinda... <SFG|Rh> ouch
<HaraIRC> not as much ouch as wtf. <SFG|Rh> lol
<SFG|Rh> fair enough
<SFG|Rh> 01:40:65 (3)
<SFG|Rh> its the same sort as that one
<HaraIRC> That sounds better actually.
<SFG|Rh> it does
<HaraIRC> But a little wtf. <SFG|Rh> worth mentioning
<HaraIRC> Slightly random at least.
<HaraIRC> 01:48:341 (4)
<HaraIRC> Not snapped under (2) correctly.
<SFG|Rh> i cant see it <HaraIRC> I can with this skin
<HaraIRC> But actually.
<HaraIRC> It's 1 pixel in a direction that is hard to notce.
<HaraIRC> notice*
<SFG|Rh> lol
<HaraIRC> actually like less than a pixel, however that is possible.
<SFG|Rh> lol
<SFG|Rh> lol
<SFG|Rh> 02:38:96 (4)
<SFG|Rh> our favorite wtf <HaraIRC> I'm fine with the rest...
<HaraIRC> Ohh
<HaraIRC> Ya...
<SFG|Rh> also uh
<SFG|Rh> 02:43:84 (1)
<SFG|Rh> make that last timing section a bit quieter and try it agian <SFG|Rh> *again
<HaraIRC> Ya, much better blend with music. <SFG|Rh> ^_^
<SFG|Rh> ill wait to see if you have any other comments then
<HaraIRC> Hmm. No not really. Nothing that I would be nazi-ing beyond nazi-ing, or change whole map about.
<SFG|Rh> okay ^_^
