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Title:One Reason (TV Size)
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Artist:DWB feat. Fade
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Creator:Sieg
Version:Bakari's Easy
Source:Deadman Wonderland
Tags:デッドマン・ワンダーランド manglobe inc opening マングローブ shiro ganta black hearts and dollar signs -bakari-
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17:09 Sieg: hey, hello :3
17:09 Sieg: can we have m4m or something? I need some more mods on my map 
17:12 Irreversible: hello
17:12 Irreversible: ehm
17:12 Irreversible: what map?
17:12 Sieg: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/100892
17:12 Irreversible: let's go for irc if you don't mind
17:13 Sieg: sure
17:13 Irreversible: i mod bakaris in forum obviously.
17:13 Sieg: ugu
17:19 Irreversible: alright
17:19 Sieg: alright :3
17:19 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/281006 DWB feat. Fade - One Reason (TV Size) [Normal]]
17:19 Irreversible: something went pretty wrong at the begin, it's really very very hard to figure out when you have to click
17:20 Sieg: becuse of song rhytm it uses break beat alot
17:20 Irreversible: ah, i see
17:20 Irreversible: please avoid using blue ticks
17:20 Irreversible: let me see..
17:21 Irreversible: 00:05:478 (2) - move this forward to the white tick
17:21 Irreversible: delete the next slider,
17:21 Sieg: i'll know about blues here
17:21 Irreversible: 00:06:303 - add a circle here
17:21 Irreversible: and a slider from 00:06:579 -  to00:06:854 - 
17:22 Sieg: hm
17:22 Irreversible: because most 'beginner' only look to the approach circle, that's fine but i don't think that's an excuse to leave it on the blue tick
17:22 Irreversible: it's really really hard to tell
17:22 Sieg: that may work, i'll try
17:22 Sieg: it's actually easier on not first play
17:22 Sieg: but anyway
17:23 Irreversible: :3
17:23 Irreversible: 00:09:606 - add a circle here
17:23 Irreversible: 00:09:744 (2) - and move this again to the white tick (00:09:881 - )
17:24 Sieg: uhu, pretty much the same
17:24 Irreversible: yes, but readable
17:24 Irreversible: i mean look at other normals, sometimes you can't understand why it's there, but you can play it xD
17:25 Sieg: ikr, common thing :3
17:25 Irreversible: another question, what did you mainly map to?
17:25 Irreversible: the background?? xD
17:25 Irreversible: because this might be superduper confusing xD
17:25 Sieg: lol, freestyle
17:25 Irreversible: i see
17:25 Irreversible: for these blue tick issues,
17:26 Irreversible: can you fix them yourself, or should i mention them all?
17:26 Sieg: ofcurse i can xD
17:26 Irreversible: alright then, i go on
17:26 Sieg: uhu
17:26 Irreversible: 00:13:046 (4) - 
17:26 Sieg: yrp
17:27 Sieg: yep
17:27 Irreversible: I can understand why you used them at the begin, i also get it here, but here it's too fast and confusing
17:27 Irreversible: double reverse in most situations isn't a good idea 
17:27 Irreversible: so you might overthink again :3
17:27 Sieg:  i can replace this with 1 slider i think
17:27 Irreversible: alright :D
17:27 Irreversible: 00:16:763 (3) -  moe the last white point a bit downwards for blanket
17:28 Irreversible: 00:18:552 (2) - and this to the left, for blanket as well
17:28 Irreversible: (anyway, you might change 00:18:552 (2) -  anyway, since it's on the blue tick
17:28 Irreversible: 00:21:579 (3) - same here, i think getting the next circle might be a bit too stressful :c
17:29 Irreversible: let me download puush xD 
17:29 Sieg: yep, this reverse sliders bothers me too
17:29 Irreversible: one sec
17:30 Irreversible: Please wait while puush is installed.
17:30 Irreversible: xD
17:31 Sieg: lol
17:32 Irreversible: 00:24:744 - 
17:32 Irreversible: 00:24:744 - http://puu.sh/3QigS.jpg try this rhythm
17:33 Irreversible: 00:27:771 (2) - i would replace this one through a smaller one and a circle, fits the lyrics better and is nicer to listen to
17:33 Sieg: i'll try
17:33 Irreversible: 00:35:340 (5) - you know. xD
17:33 Sieg: ugu
17:34 Irreversible: 00:37:679 (3,1) - try ctrl + g, for the rhythm
17:34 Irreversible: 00:50:202 (3) - blanket nazi, but  anyway, blue tick again, please go over all of them xD
17:34 Sieg: nice
17:35 Irreversible: 00:51:166 (1) - i suggest ending this 00:52:817 -  here already
17:35 Irreversible: 00:53:368 - so you can place something here, sounds better and emphasizes the begin of the chorus
17:36 Irreversible: 00:53:368 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - and could you try to involve some sliders here? it's a bit too circly if you know what i mean
17:36 Irreversible: 00:54:468 (3,4) - instead of these two, use a slider, it might be more comfortable :3
17:36 Sieg: maybe but this is not easy
17:36 Sieg: this is normal :3
17:36 Irreversible: it's not, but still, insane doesn't have only circles too right?
17:36 Irreversible: and it's for the rhythms sake
17:37 Irreversible: 00:56:670 (3) - this curve should go on the other side, i mean flow and stuff
17:37 Irreversible: 00:57:221 (4) - extend this slider to the right tick? it gets smoother, as if you just break it at the blue tick, nice idea, but i prefer this
17:37 Sieg:  hm, yep maybe 
17:38 Sieg: this one suits drums
17:38 Sieg: that lands on blue
17:38 Irreversible: your decision :3
17:38 Sieg: ofcourse :3
17:38 Irreversible: 01:03:689 (3) - way too confusing. i mean DS might be correct here
17:38 Irreversible: but the distance looks exactly the same, and i don't think beginner player give a shit that the reverse slider lands on the bottom
17:38 Irreversible: so..
17:39 Sieg: yep
17:39 Irreversible: 01:03:001 (2,3) - i don't get this rhythm anyway xD you might change it to something more common
17:40 Irreversible: 01:00:523 (1) - move to  51 250
17:40 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/3QiyR.jpg 01:01:074 (2,3) - 
17:40 Irreversible: 01:02:175 (1) - rotate by -52° or something
17:41 Irreversible: 01:04:927 (1,2,3) -  something failed with the DS here, it should be the same, or at least look like that
17:41 Sieg: hm
17:41 Irreversible: :D
17:42 Sieg: it is, no? http://puu.sh/3QiBS.jpg
17:42 Irreversible: 01:10:982 - maybe add a kiai fountain somewhere here?
17:42 Irreversible: look between 1 and 2
17:42 Irreversible: and then between 2 and 3
17:42 Irreversible: 01:13:322 (1) - this NC is no need, or maybe it is, but then remove it from
17:42 Sieg: i don't like all this kiai stuff at all ;_;
17:42 Irreversible: 01:13:735 (1) -  here
17:42 Irreversible: alright :P
17:43 Sieg: oh 
17:43 Sieg: yep
17:43 Sieg: i don't know why there is nc actually xD
17:43 Irreversible: alright, i'm done xD
17:44 Sieg:  lot for normal
17:44 Irreversible: i'm sry
17:44 Sieg: lol
17:44 Irreversible: but i'm wondering, normally my normal / easy mods look like:
17:44 Irreversible: remove nc
17:44 Irreversible: lol xD
17:45 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/270597 DWB feat. Fade - One Reason (TV Size) [Hard]]
17:45 Sieg: i'm going to ask more opinions before changing blue tick notes, rest is all to fix i guess
17:45 Sieg: gogo
17:45 Irreversible: really enjoyable diff, good flow overall
17:45 Irreversible: 00:08:092 (4,5,6) - DS fail
17:46 Irreversible: 00:10:157 (3) - move a bit to the right and make sure you use the same DS for all kind of these things (circle and slider, you know like:
17:46 Sieg: ehm
17:46 Irreversible: 00:10:157 (3,4) - 
17:46 Irreversible: 00:12:496 (4,5) - look at 4 and 5, as you can see it's not as neat as i wish it was xD 
17:47 Sieg: nah this small 0.05 not not noticeable on play
17:47 Irreversible: and?
17:47 Irreversible: i could see it
17:47 Irreversible: stop being lazy otherwise i won't help :3
17:47 Irreversible: and for me it looks like more o,o try to replace it a little bit
17:47 Sieg: lol
17:47 Sieg: okay :\
17:47 Sieg: i fix them all :)
17:47 Irreversible: great~
17:47 Irreversible: 00:12:496 (4,5) - ok, look at this
17:47 Irreversible: please make it like this
17:48 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/3QiPh.jpg
17:48 Irreversible: if you don't want it that curvy, try this
17:48 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/3QiPZ.jpg
17:48 Sieg: 1st one is good
17:48 Irreversible: alright
17:48 Irreversible: 00:14:285 (2) - move it to somewhere around
17:49 Irreversible: 132 20
17:49 Sieg: i love this overlaps
17:49 Irreversible: yes
17:49 Irreversible: they are good
17:49 Irreversible: but move it a bit to the left
17:49 Irreversible: xD
17:49 Irreversible: 00:16:900 (4,5,6,7) - i think a straight line (with the 'stream' works better here, because the end of the slider is obviously straight
17:49 Sieg: oh
17:49 Sieg: yes, great
17:50 Sieg: mb
17:50 Irreversible: 00:25:569 (3) - listen to the lyrics please, this long slider doesn't fit at all, does it?
17:50 Sieg: fits music
17:50 Irreversible: but try this
17:50 Irreversible: 00:25:569 - add circle
17:50 Irreversible: add slider from  00:25:845 -  to00:26:120 - 
17:51 Sieg: too much 1\2 i try wary this, but i'll try anyway
17:51 Irreversible: cool :D
17:51 Sieg: vary*
17:51 Irreversible: xD
17:51 Irreversible: 00:29:973 (3,4) -  try this:http://puu.sh/3QiXt.jpg
17:51 Sieg: cool
17:52 Irreversible: 00:36:854 (3) - this slider
17:52 Irreversible: why doesn't it start 00:36:854 -  until00:37:404 -  ?
17:52 Irreversible: you could have 1/1 here perfectly
17:52 Sieg:  but this plays fine too
17:52 Irreversible: as you saw
17:53 Irreversible: my things aren't 'unrankable' stuff
17:53 Irreversible: i don't like modding that
17:53 Sieg: lol
17:53 Irreversible: way*
17:53 Irreversible: i just mod
17:53 Irreversible: suggestive
17:53 Irreversible: :D
17:53 Sieg: sure
17:53 Irreversible: you can deny
17:53 Irreversible: everything
17:54 Sieg: that's a bad way to improve your maps form mods
17:54 Sieg: :3
17:54 Irreversible: how?
17:54 Irreversible: like i do it? xD
17:54 Sieg: to deny all
17:54 Irreversible: ah
17:54 Irreversible: yes
17:54 Sieg: loool
17:54 Irreversible: i'm happy
17:54 Irreversible: that you like my suggestions XD
17:54 Sieg: yep, pretty useful among all this nc mods
17:55 Sieg: that i got so far
17:55 Irreversible: 00:41:533 (3,4,5) - 
17:55 Irreversible: this line bothers me, it's not perfectly straight XD
17:56 Irreversible: circle 4 is more on the right than slider 5
17:56 Irreversible: it looks weird
17:56 Sieg: this supposed to be curve :\
17:56 Irreversible: can you try
17:56 Irreversible: making 5 a bit more curvy
17:56 Irreversible: at the bottom?
17:56 Irreversible: nono
17:56 Irreversible: in the middle
17:56 Irreversible: move the middle point a little tiny bit to the left
17:56 Sieg: i'll try to adjust 3 and 4, 5 is totally fine for me
17:56 Irreversible: and this 00:41:670 (4) -  to 20 156
17:56 Irreversible: maybe it was just 4
17:56 Irreversible: i think it was just 4.
17:56 Irreversible: xD
17:57 Sieg: yep i guess so xD
17:57 Irreversible: 00:53:643 -  not sure but i think for hard it's fine if you start here
17:57 Irreversible: important point imo
17:58 Sieg: lyrics :\ i usally ignore such spots
17:58 Irreversible: don't you dare
17:58 Irreversible: XD
17:58 Sieg: ;_;
17:59 Irreversible: 00:58:322 (2,3) - don't like the flow between those
17:59 Irreversible: hmm
17:59 Irreversible: 00:53:643 (1,4,5,1,2,3) - 
17:59 Sieg: mb, but totall fine
17:59 Irreversible: the flow in this part
17:59 Irreversible: is a bit broken
18:00 Sieg: hm, do you play on tablet?
18:00 Irreversible: nope
18:00 Sieg: oh okay
18:00 Sieg: :3
18:00 Irreversible: let me send you
18:00 Irreversible: a suggestion
18:01 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/3QjiW.jpg
18:01 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/3QjjD.jpg
18:01 Sieg: this may work, yes
18:02 Irreversible: :)
18:03 Irreversible: rest looks fine :DD
18:03 Sieg: great
18:04 Irreversible: no.
18:04 Sieg: no
18:04 Sieg: lol
18:04 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/3Qjpv.jpg
18:04 Irreversible: 01:15:386 (1,2) -  can you try?
18:04 Irreversible: 01:18:689 (2,3,4,5,6) -  try to improve the curvy shape please :3 if you don't mind xD
18:04 Sieg: looks  fine
18:05 Sieg: i don't xd
18:05 Irreversible: alright xD
18:06 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/267557 DWB feat. Fade - One Reason (TV Size) [Insane]]
18:06 Irreversible: seems mostly right, i'm not a big fan of this kind of spacing though, but just ignore that :3
18:07 Irreversible: 00:16:487 (3) - this is incredibly fucking omg i hate it ctrl + g and i'm a happy kid again
18:07 Irreversible: xD
18:07 Irreversible: 00:39:606 (5) - NC? o.o
18:08 Sieg: yes
18:08 Irreversible: 00:39:606 (5) -  >:(
18:08 Irreversible: 01:05:478 (3) - move to 344 244 because you can
18:09 Irreversible: 01:09:056 (8) - move to 472 100 because you can xD
18:09 Irreversible: 01:09:881 (5) - NC, because I like to split up these kind of patterns with NC
18:09 Irreversible: 01:10:432 (9) -  saaaame reason
18:09 Sieg: not here ;_; it must be all red nc
18:10 Irreversible: 01:23:643 (4) - I'd like to have this stacked with the slider start of the next slider, because now it doesn't look very good to my eye, but there's no other place 
18:10 Irreversible: alright :3
18:10 Irreversible: that's it already
18:10 Irreversible: i'm happy with that diff if you changed ^
18:10 Irreversible: except nc, i dont care
18:10 Irreversible: xD
18:10 Sieg: xd
18:11 Irreversible: ops
18:11 Irreversible: when i said >:(
18:11 Irreversible: i meant
18:11 Irreversible: 00:53:643 - 
18:11 Irreversible: XD
18:11 Sieg: oh
18:11 Sieg: lol
18:12 Irreversible: you can be my 130th kd <3