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ZUN - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke

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Lybydose
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, August 06, 2009 at 7:25:22 PM

Artist: ZUN
Title: Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
Source: Touhou 8 - Imperishable Night
Tags: touhou mokou
BPM: 158
Filesize: 6308kb
Play Time: 02:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.53 stars, 323 notes)
  2. Lunatic (4.97 stars, 496 notes)
  3. Normal (3.23 stars, 140 notes)
Download: ZUN - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Mokou's theme from Imperishable Night.
Last edited by Gens , edited 59 times in total.
Skyripper
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Skyripper
You notice how your BG appears at the beginning for a split second? That's because the map can't start with any SB image. My recommendation is to set the image you WANT to start out with as the actual background and fading the OTHER background in later.

[Normal]
00:30:53 (1) - Remove new combo
00:31:49 (3) - new combo
00:49:09 (13) - one grid down to align with fading 9 + add a whistle
00:52:75 (1) - a little quick for a [Normal] spinner, but it works

[Luna]
00:49:82 (1) - this is a fun little sequence with the spinners, but some BATs may have a problem with them being autoplay 2000 bonus (just giving the heads up)
00:58:97 (2,4) - I suggest switching the position of these two beats. put the 2 where 4 is and the 4 where 2 is. this will give the fading previous combo a chance to actually fade
01:27:41 (5,6) - awkward, don't know what you can do with it though
01:49:10 (14) - new combo
01:52:21 (8) - ^
02:12:11 (5) - turn off grid/distance snap and align this all the way with slider end
02:24:27 (1) - ^
02:40:48 (1) - align with the fading 1
02:50:35 - give a slowdown message?
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Updated

I'm not having the problem with the BG showing up at the beginning for a split second though. It starts with the black background in both normal play and editor testing.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found a way around having to use a black background and improved the quality of all the SB images, so this problem is fixed.
blissfulyoshi
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blissfulyoshi
Normal:
00:03:96 (6,1) - swap new combos
00:20:94 (1) - to be consistent with the previous combos, you should get rid of the new combo here
00:22:40 (5) - if you did the previous mod, please add a new combo here
00:46:84 (7) - to be consistent with the previous occurance, add a new combo here
01:36:65 (6) -" "?

Hard:
01:27:14 (4,5) - the spacing felt wrong here while playing

I really like your storyboarding for this map, and your map is pretty fun.
Star.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Updated

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Hard:
01:27:14 (4,5) - the spacing felt wrong here while playing.
I was having this same problem, but the spacing itself is fine. I think it's just because they both fall on blue ticks. Either way, I changed this to a slider.
Jaykeii
14 posts
Joined May 2008
Jaykeii
ahhh I love this song<3
mind if I try making a hard difficulty? :D
-star for youu-
tieff
Featured Artist
2,254 posts
Joined March 2009
tieff
About SB... Sound too loud in Normal.
I think you need easy diff.

[Normal]
00:28:03 (1,2,3,4) - You can create better pattern.
00:57:14 (5) - Clap on 2nd return.
00:59:70 (4) - Nazi. Left a bit.
01:24:21 (8) - Clap on end.
01:27:87 (5) - New combo?
01:31:53 (4) - Clap on start.
01:32:63 (3) - Clap.

[Lunatic]
00:36:10 (8,9) - Nazi. Spacing.
01:29:06 (4,1) - Spacing?
01:43:80 (6) - Clap?

Great map and SB, star'd.
al2e10
1,101 posts
Joined August 2008
al2e10
Hi!! I have some opinon with your map ^^

[Lunatic]
01:27:419 (5) Start at 328
01:36:657 (5) new combo

DON'T PUT MANY CLAP !!
IT IS TO NLOSE!!

[Normal]
00:30:53 (7,8) Don't put clap
00:31:49 (1,2) Don't put clap And 2 use whistle
00:32:83 (4,6) Don't put clap And 6 use whistle
00:40:84 (1,2,3,4,5) (SOUND) Use whistle>none>whistle>none >whistle
00:43:84 (1) Don't put clap
00:44:96 (4) Don't put clap , Use whistle
00;53:85 (1,3) Clap

{ALL}
It is a good map ~
But the clap have to change ~!!
Sleep Powder
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Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
[Normal]
00:01:49 (3) - Don't want to align this with 2? It looks intentional...but you could align them [ make it clean ]
00:25:53 (1) - Finish maybe?
00:37:06 (7) - Clap doesn't sound too good here
00:43:84 (1) - Maybe a finish instead?
01:05:92 (5) - Maybe add a repeat?
01:08:12 (4) - End on the white tick before?
01:10:31 (1) - Re-add the break here
01:42:88 (9) - Clap the beginning too?
01:46:91 (1) - Hitsound the slider end?
01:48:00 (3) - ^

[Lunatic]
00:15:36 (4) - Add a Clap here?
00:15:45 (5) - Add a Whistle here?
00:15:64 (7) - ^ It might sound better with 8 too...
Try to add hitsounds in those streams instead of leaving them default
00:28:61 (4) - Maybe you should move this up a bit? 1,2 parallel with 3,4 maybe?
00:38:77 (3,4) - Whistle then Clap?
01:08:12 (5) - Whistles on this slider instead?
01:08:48 (6,7,8) - Whistles don't sound too good here
01:08:48 (6,7,8) - Take out some finishes
01:27:41 (5) - Place on red tick?
I don't see how you could do the notes on the blue tick with the rhythm you're using
Oh wait nvm I see it now...its the hitsounds that made it sound wrong xP lolz
01:27:32 (x) - Add a note here
01:28:60 (5) - Clap
01:28:88 (7) - ^
01:29:15 (9) - ^
01:31:62 (2) - Place on red tick in front of it
01:48:28 (9) - Take out clap here
01:51:48 (7,8) - Clap doesn't sound too good here Finish might be better...?
Thats a nice SB lol
02:24:65 (3) - Stack all the notes in the middle to this one
Use grid snap here
OMG speed up =O
sliders look fast on 50% @_@
Why is everything a new combo?
02:50:71 (1) - I thought it would be over here lol
I guess its fine where you ended
Lybydose
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Changed up the hitsounds a bit, following most of the suggestions here

animask wrote:

[Normal]
00:01:49 (3) - Don't want to align this with 2? It looks intentional...but you could align them [ make it clean ] intentional, but made it cleaner in a different manner
01:05:92 (5) - Maybe add a repeat? I like this better without the repeat

[Lunatic]
01:27:32 (x) - Add a note here Doesn't really follow the part of the song I was mapping this to
02:24:65 (3) - Stack all the notes in the middle to this one
Use grid snap here These are supposed to be stacked directly under the slider end, which doesn't snap to the grid.

Why is everything a new combo? This section is supposed to be hard to die on (since in the actual game it's more of a bonus section), so everything is a new combo to give constant "Beat" or "Elite Beat"
v2b
504 posts
Joined October 2008
v2b
Normal:
00:23:50 (4) maybe remove this slider and put a circle at 00:23:507 instead
01:05:92 (5) extend by one repeat?

Lunatic:
00:22:40 (1) - 00:23:69 (11) sounds weird for me :\
00:46:27 (x) Why is here a break? I think you should put something here
01:11:87 (x) redo break plz
01:27:41 (5) move this slider to 01:27:328
01:49:10 (1) remove new combo and resnap it
01:49:83 (2) new combo


nice SB and map
star :)
Jinxy
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Joined February 2009
Jinxy
...Starred. What else? This map is very well done but the part where there is a phoenix behind the beats feel like its guiding a person using FL through. At least it was compensated with a speed up after it. :P
Zekira
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Joined September 2008
Zekira
First Offset: 1486
Second: 13618
Third: 25520
Fourth: 37834
Fifth: 49824
Add: Remember the kiai somewhere near 01:14:69? Use it as uninherited and make it 74694
Seventh (Originally sixth): 98117
Eigaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

I never noticed how much songs was in this song! I only modded the offsets at Normal. Starring because of this hard work, omg... too much offsets for my laziness.
Skyripper
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Skyripper
phoenix looks awesomeeee

[Lunatic]
02:38:28 (1) - kind hard to see this stream against the background, consider moving it somewhere else I guess?
02:50:71 - slow down text plz?

also, osz is a little big, consider compressing a few of your images down a little more. like speed bg down to 640x480 (stuff like that) (don't forget to redo any SB stuff [scaling wise])

EDIT: do it in photoshop or fireworks and you shouldn't lose any quality on the .pngs (<3 vectors)
Lybydose
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Lybydose

Skyripper wrote:

phoenix looks awesomeeee

[Lunatic]
02:38:28 (1) - kind hard to see this stream against the background, consider moving it somewhere else I guess?
02:50:71 - slow down text plz?

also, osz is a little big, consider compressing a few of your images down a little more. like speed bg down to 640x480 (stuff like that) (don't forget to redo any SB stuff [scaling wise])

EDIT: do it in photoshop or fireworks and you shouldn't lose any quality on the .pngs (<3 vectors)
Fixed stuff. I changed the speed section BG completely (was looking for an excuse to change it anyway). If it's still too hard to see, I'll move the stack. The file was so big because the comboburst was huuuuuuge, so I fixed that.

Fun fact: My Google image searching for a different background led me to this thread. blissfulyoshi and tieff's avatars came up.

Also my tags aren't working. This map doesn't come up if I search "touhou", but a lot of other pending maps do.
Skyripper
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Skyripper
ok try it now
Lybydose
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Works now. Still don't understand why it doesn't just work from the start, but it works for everyone else. It also seems to be selectively happening on some ranked maps (some of the tags work, and some don't).

Nevermind, updating killed it again. I even changed the tags. What the hell?! There are 20 other pending maps that come up just fine.

AHA, found the issue. Apparently tags don't do anything at all. Those other maps are coming up because of the source.
mtmcl
mtmcl
[Lunatic] - 01:27:40 - This slider is really weird. Is it supposed to be like that?

Starred for now. Just waiting for response.
Lybydose
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mtmcl wrote:

[Lunatic] - 01:27:40 - This slider is really weird. Is it supposed to be like that?

Starred for now. Just waiting for response.
This slider is mapped to two notes that play on blue ticks. I've tried moving it back 1/4, but it sounds much worse to me. Try listening on 25% speed and it should be more obvious.
mtmcl
mtmcl

Lybydose wrote:

mtmcl wrote:

[Lunatic] - 01:27:40 - This slider is really weird. Is it supposed to be like that?

Starred for now. Just waiting for response.
This slider is mapped to two notes that play on blue ticks. I've tried moving it back 1/4, but it sounds much worse to me. Try listening on 25% speed and it should be more obvious.
Ah, I see. It's pretty strange, but I hear what's being mapped now. No more hesitation. Here's your bubble.
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