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Skillet - Whispers in the Dark

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rust45
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 12:10:39 PM

Artist: Skillet
Title: Whispers in the Dark
Source: Comatose
Tags: Skillet Comatose 0_o
BPM: 188
Filesize: 5704kb
Play Time: 02:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. 0_o's Easy (1.78 stars, 90 notes)
  2. alex's Normal (3.25 stars, 131 notes)
  3. Hard (4.33 stars, 182 notes)
  4. Insane (4.83 stars, 348 notes)
Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks to Xiaounlimited for letting me use his awesome Xi-Style Skin for this map! You a cool dude with awesome skinning powers!

A freaking awesome song mapped by a freaking awesome ghey dude. The insane on this is probaly the hardest map I've ever made and I hope it's rankable.

Resubmitted after the download wasn't working.
blissfulyoshi noted that I forgot a BG, if you already downloaded it and care about having the Comatose Album there while you play, please redownload.

Edit: blissfulyoshi and Inozuma suggestions.
Edit: Redid breaks as Alex0686 noted.
Edit: Took James's, Gladi's and Gens's suggestion and added Alex's normal, but is imcoplete so I'm moving this to the WIPs.
Edit: Took some of ASH's suggestions.
Media Change: I changed the mp3 because ASH noted it was crappy. But now the offset needs to be checked again because I suck with offset.
Edit: whymeman's suggestions and the Xi-style skin taken out because I fogot to ask if I could use it, if I get permission I will put it back.
Edit: Put the Xi-Style back in after getting permission.
Edit: blissfulyoshi's suggestions and added Alex's completed diff, now is in Pending.
Edit: Added Remmy's offset.
Edit: Animask's suggestions.
Edit: Vexed's suggestions.
Edit: tieff's suggestions.
Edit: Takuma's suggestion.
Edit: Mogsy and Starrod suggestions.
Edit: More from Mogsy.
Edit: 0_o suggestions and diff, more Mogsy a little from vytalibus Alex modded it again and Breeze provided a warning for the 2x slider in Insane.
Edit: minyeob noting out my mistimed note on Hard.
Edit: Once more Mogsy suggestions.
Edit: Hey guess what? More Mogsy suggestions, it's not like it's a bad thing but I wish more people would mod this.
Edit: Resubmit after peppy told me to, and part of the solo now is mapped by 0_o
Edit: EEeee and Cheesewarlock mods.
Edit: tieff's suggestions.
Edit: Changed 0_o's diff back to what it orignally was.
0_o
re-upload, the download isn't working

awesome song btw :D
Topic Starter
rust45
Should be fixed now, please try again.
blissfulyoshi
You are going to need an easier diff to rank this

The offset sounds pretty off, but after talking in irc, I am not very confident in my offset skills.

Besides irc stuff:
Hard:
00:20:68 (4,1) - align?
00:21:32 (4,5) - " " same applies to the reflection)
00:22:12 (1,1) - the overlap of these sliders look very ugly
00:41:57 (1,2,3) - make a straight line?
01:25:61 (3,4,5,6) - this breaks the flow of the map
get rid of extra inherited timing sections at the end.

Insane:
00:24:82 (2) - align with 1?
00:26:25 (3,4) - make parallel to 1,2?
00:44:76 (2) - restack under the ending of 1
00:46:04 (4) - restack under the ending of 4
00:56:57 (1,2,3,4) - change these so they form a clean rectangle
01:01:04 (5) - align wtih 4?
01:25:61 (3,4,5,6) - since you have to stop an hit overlapping notes in the same location before going reversing direction, these set of notes are very confusing
01:31:04 (5) - align with 4?
01:39:02 (1) - make a horizontal reflection of the green 2
01:58:81 (1,2,3,4) - keep the spacing consistent in the combo
02:04:87 (5,6,7) - another set of confusing notes
02:14:68 (5) - align with 4?
02:32:80 (4) - align with 5
I really think you should fix the alignment issues in this difficulty.

I think this map needs to be cleaned up, but have a star for now.
Inozuma
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
cyanberryio
[Insane]
00:28:242 - Reinsert the break in this area.
01:14:279 - ^
01:19:625 - ^
02:21:221 - ^
A little more symmetry could help, but it's up to you. Some things feel kinda thrown out there. :\

[Hard]
Breaks, breaks, breaks~


Not finding much cause I'm being lazy, I think it is a pretty fun map. :D Just throw in a Normal or Easy for the noobies, Hard is a little bit too much for them. :P

Star'd
James2250
*agrees that you need an easier diff*

hard:
00:25:76 (4) -make this aligned with the rest of that row
01:57:84 (1) - don't like it under notes >_>

insane:
I kinda feel like its over mapped at the end but awesome anyway :P
have a star :)
GladiOol
Offset 18287

Insane
00:46:05 (4) - Not good stacked.
00:47:64 (1) - Make this end on the same line as it started.
00:56:58 (1,2,3,4) - Off screen, looks ugly.
01:31:99 (7) - Move on grid lvl to the left to make 'perfect line'.
01:37:73 (1,2) - Off screen, looks ugly.
01:39:01 (1,2) - ^
02:00:39 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
02:10:60 (1) - Look at 00:47:64 (1).
02:14:12 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Kinda impossible, with sudden stacks in between. You might want to change that to make it a whole clear pattern which continues in one line.
02:16:99 (1) - Spacing.

Needs easiër diff.
Gens
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
cyanberryio
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu
Mashley
Maybe it's just the song, but this mp3 sounds pretty awful.

alex's normal
Notes aren't snapped. To fix this, press Timing - resnap all notes.
00:38:77 (1,2) - Get rid of 2 and lengthen 1 by 1/2
00:41:34 (1) - Why blue tick?
Uh, this isn't finished right? It's so short.

Hard
00:41:34 (1) - Bad spacing is bad
imo, there isn't really a need for this difficulty. It isn't very good, you'd be better off with just Normal and Insane.

Insane
Don't put notes on the very corner grid, it looks fugly.
02:36:15 (1) - Take that kiai off the beginning of this slider >:(
whymeman
Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Detaild Modding Go!

Osz. File Check (Done)

SPOILER
Video: No
Custom Skin: Yes (I Hope you have permission to use the Xi-Style Skin first. If not, you'll have to remove it from the map.)
[Current] Size: 5.53 MB / 10.00MB
Source: N/A
Tags: Yes (Though it could use more tags like the song name for example)

[alex's Normal] (Done)

SPOILER
Timing (BPM / Offset): 188.000 / 20,415 ms (Sounds okay so far...)
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 1 / 0.90
Distance Snap Average: x1.0
[Current] Objects: 63 ( 36 Circles / 27 Sliders / No Spinner)
[Current] Max Combo: 148
[Current] Max Score: 194,280
[Current] Star Rating: 3.08
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.3
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.2
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.3

00:20:41 ~ 00:30:14 (Sec.) - Starts off a bit roughly, making it hard to grasp the beat for those just trying out the map. Maybe a slight tone down would help.
00:28:55 (1) - The slider sounds okay before the repeat, but after, it sounds sound good at all. Cut the repeat and insert a note at 00:29:98.
00:40:92 (1) - The timing placement of the slider is incorrect (1/4 late). Also, its a bit too long by 1/4 after the adjustment.
00:43:47 (1) - ^ (Also 1/4 late, but after the adjustment, its 1/4 too short.)

Notes: The map is okay, but needs just a little work. The start of the map played a bit roughly for a [Normal]. Also, for scoring reasons, you'll need a spinner for this map at a decent length or else the scores are engraved in stone.

[Hard] (Done)

SPOILER
Timing (BPM / Offset): 188.000 / 20,415 ms (Sounds okay so far...)
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 1 / 1.00
Distance Snap Average: x0.8
[Current] Objects: 192 ( 154 Circles / 36 Sliders / 2 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 264
[Current] Max Score: 1,345,932
[Current] Star Rating: 4.26
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.5
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.3
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.6

00:21:53 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Honestly, it looks a bit cluttered there...
00:24:24 (1) - Don't think this should be a new combo...
00:25:52 (1) - The placement of this slider is messy. Please try to make it more neater.
00:25:52 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^^^ With an addition to that, it looks a bit cluttered here as well. And for that last slider, it sounds odd when it ends past 00:29:98.
00:48:82 (5,6,1) - The placement looks messy, and also, why is that slider set as a new combo?
00:49:77 (1) - Could look a bit more neater and sounds like it should end at 00:50:41.
00:56:16 (1) - Why as a new combo?
00:57:11 (1) - Not even with slider end.
01:14:11 ~ 01:17:86 (X) - Maybe instead of a break, a few notes could be here?
01:33:82 (5,6) - Not even under the slider end.
01:35:89 (6,7,8,9,10) - Just my thoughts on this, without stacking the (6), it makes the whole row look a bit odd and it pushes (10) all the way to the left of the grid.
01:38:44 (6) - Looks a bit odd without stacking.
01:43:39 (5) - Sounds like it should end at 01:44:03.
01:58:39 (1, 4) - Slightly uneven under the slider.

Notes: Honestly, the map could have been made a bit more neater with some more work. Sorry, but that's how I see it so far.

[Insane] (Done)

SPOILER
Timing (BPM / Offset): 188.000 / 20,415 ms (Sounds okay so far...)
[Current] Slider Tick Rate / Velocity: 1 / 1.40
Distance Snap Average: x1.2
[Current] Objects: 359 ( 295 Circles / 62 Sliders / 2 Spinners )
[Current] Max Combo: 482
[Current] Max Score: 4,123,510
[Current] Star Rating: 4.86
[Current] HP Drain Rate: Lv.7
[Current] Circle Size: Lv.3
[Current] Overall Difficulty: Lv.8

00:21:69 (1) - Not even under the slider end.
00:44:35 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - The line up looks a bit uneven.
00:44:99 (7) - Looks a bit cramed into the corner...
00:46:90 (2) - Not even under the slider end.
00:49:77 (1) - Could look a bit more neater and sounds like it should end at 00:50:41.
00:54:88 (2) - Don't look right under the slider end.
00:58:71 (1,2,3,4) - .......... Okay... you'll really have to do some adjustemts for that. Cramming the notes up every corner as far as you can doesn't look right. Especially with 2 of the hitnotes bottoming out and the jumps itself is not equal.
01:06:05 (5,1) - Bottomed out....
01:14:11 ~ 01:17:86 (X) - Maybe instead of a break, a few notes could be here?
01:24:56 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Doesn't feel neatly placed...
01:27:75 (3,4,5,6) - That was kinda confusing...
01:30:30 (2) - Not even under the slider end.
01:39:88 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Once again.... make sure the jump is proper.
01:43:39 (5) - Sounds like it should end at 01:44:03.
01:51:05 (2) - Doesn't look right under the previous slider.
01:52:33 (1) - The end point almost bottomed out.
01:56:16 (2,3,4,1) - Could have been done a bit neater...
02:02:54 (2,3,4,5,6) - Another crammed jump....
02:12:75 (1) - Could be a bit neater...
02:16:26 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Holy....... that's a bit overkill for an insane map.
02:38:28 (1) - Long & Fast slider... :o
02:39:24 (1,2,3) - Close to the bottom...
02:43:39 (1,2,3,4) - .... Another crammed jump.
02:54:24 (1,2,3) - ^
02:56:79 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The line up is not horizontially even and the middle section is not even with the slider end.

Notes: ..... This needs alot of work.

Overall: This map overall needs plenty of work. The shapes, the jumps, and some timing issues with the notes. Also, PLEASE listen to everyone about adding an [Easy] difficulty. You don't want a BAT being pissed off saying the same thing after everyone already told you. I'll star the map, but please make sure to get it fixed up more neatly.
Xiao_old
You can use my skin for this map, I don't really care to be honest.

I'm not very touchy about it
Topic Starter
rust45
Alright, thanks for letting me use it,
mrtn
try offset 20411

[alex's normal]
kiai time in the beginning is REALLY out of place
no problems other than the kiai ;p

[hard]
kiai time in the beginning is REALLY out of place
00:22:96 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't like this being 1 grid lower than the 4 of the previous combo.
00:28:07 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:49:77 (1) - remove new combo
01:52:32 (1) - ^

[insane]
kiai time in the beginning is REALLY out of place
00:56:16 (1) - remove new combo
01:06:37 (1) - ^
01:49:77 (1) - ^
01:52:33 (1) - ^
01:59:99 (1) - ^
02:02:22 (1) - ^
02:40:84 (1) - ^
02:43:39 (1) - ^
02:51:05 (1) - ^
02:54:24 (1) - ^


starred :)
blissfulyoshi
Light modding:

alex:
00:28:55 (1) - I think for consistency, take out this new combo
need a spinner to break ties

Hard:
I still don't like how the beginning looks
01:35:89 (6,7,8,9) and 01:38:44 (6,7,8,9) - looked messy in my opinion, the second one was a little annoying to read too.

Insane:
02:02:22 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - inconsistent spacing within the combo
02:07:01 (5,6) - this breaks the flow esp since it is right before a large stream
02:38:28 (1) - this 2x slider feels random, esp since I went from a slightly boring repeat slider

That is all this time.
cyanberryio
Okay, back from being off. And just updating. :D Extended it, because rust requested that.

Download: Skillet - Whispers in the Dark (rust45) [alex's Normal].osu

I'm actually early. :P Somehow I wasn't limited. :D
RemmyX25
Timing Request

Actually you were really close to my guess. I got an offset of 20,408.

Best of luck!
Sleep Powder
[Normal]
Why does it start with kiai time?
00:53:59 (1) - Slider whistle?
00:58:70 (4) - Finishes in here somewhere?
01:03:81 (4) - Slider whistle?
01:06:36 (1) - ^
01:08:91 (5) - Finishes?
01:14:02 (5) - Whistle doesn't really fit here much...
01:47:21 (1) - Slider whistle?
01:49:76 (7) - ^
01:52:32 (6) - Finishes
01:57:42 (1) - Slider whistle

[Hard]
00:29:34 (1) - Finish slider end? without whistle?
01:06:36 (1) - Slider whistle?
01:13:86 (7) - Finish maybe?
01:18:97 (4) - ^
01:25:83 (7) - Clap
01:28:38 (6) - ^
01:40:51 (3) - Whistle maybe?
01:41:79 (3) - ^
01:43:38 (5) - End on next white tick?
01:47:21 (1) - Slider whistle
01:49:76 (1) - ^
01:57:26 (1) - ^
02:07:48 (7) - Finish?

[Insane]
00:42:74 (9) - Slider whistle
00:44:98 (7) - Clap
00:46:89 (2) - Maybe make 2 and 4 both whistles instead?
00:49:76 (1) - End on white tick then move spinner
00:53:59 (1) - Slider whistle
00:56:15 (1) - ^
01:13:86 (7) - Finish?
01:18:97 (5) - ^
01:25:83 (7) - Clap
01:28:38 (6) - Clap
01:31:25 (4) - Whistle?
01:43:38 (5) - End on white tick then move spinner
01:47:21 (1) - Slider whistle
01:57:26 (1) - ^
01:59:98 (1) - Maybe put this between 4 and 5?
02:02:53 (1) - I don't really like the jumps here
Deathstream is a evil and unnecessary and too hard to follow and offbeat
02:38:28 (1) - Whistle and finish here
02:40:83 (1) - Slider whistle
02:48:33 (1) - ^
02:51:04 (1) - ^
cyanberryio
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