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Mafumafu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015年7月28日 at 20:05:56

Artist: niki
Title: HYBRID
Tags: lily vocaloid
BPM: 125
Filesize: 2378kb
Play Time: 01:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.41 stars, 183 notes)
  2. Normal (1.74 stars, 110 notes)
Download: niki - HYBRID
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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11th.
sad that caellel quit. ;w;
Genre Suggestion: Novelty; Japanese.

This is a map that Priti doesnt like. Yep.

Thanks for neonat's metadata help!

Try neonat's Insane here: http://puu.sh/jfzxa/01eceb7029.osu

Enjoy.
Topic Starter
Mafumafu
caellel contributes a lot to this map,thank you for your helpful work and brilliant diff!
liangv587
Easy

很好
可以加点音效比如24clap(可自定义),在适当的地方加finish,如00:25:047 - 这个需要个人对音乐的理解
其他难度也要加音效

Normal

节奏比较满,四围变成6466直接改名Hard
flow有些小问题,其他很好
00:09:687 (1) - 向下弯
00:14:487 (2) - 调到下方,形状自己决定吧
00:22:167 (2) - 反向,再调下间距
00:25:047 (1,3) - 这种在normal不该有的,所以说你这个应该是Hard
00:28:887 (1) - 反向,牵一发而动全身,有整体感的
00:36:567 (1) - 向左走
00:39:687 (3) - 变成1/2滑条,00:40:167 (1) - 后退1/2,00:40:167 - 加个圈试试
------------------或者变成1/2折返,00:40:167 (1) - 后退1/2
01:06:567 (1,2) - 这也是Hard

caellel's Hard

00:10:167 (2,3) - 00:11:127 (5,6) - 前两个小节,把那两个滑条合成1/2滑条吧,给人心理准备
00:17:847 (2,3) - 00:18:807 (5,6) - 合成1/2滑条,再换个花样,一直重复不太好,换个花样重复
00:20:247 (1) - NC个,Comb有点长了,强迫症轻微患者
00:28:887 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - 交换下顺序,从左往右5,7,9,6,8,10
00:37:047 (6,7,8,9,10) - 再找一个梗,应该很好找到可以借鉴的
00:45:687 (1) - NC
00:46:647 (3,4) - 想个形状吧,简单点就好
01:00:567 (3,4) - 不怎么好看
01:04:887 (4) - 反向,往上移动点,01:05:367 (5) - 移到6的下偏左一点,跟4平行
01:08:727 (4) - 跟上个一样的做法,反向再左移
01:12:567 (4) - 向左,跟01:13:047 (5,6) - 平行
01:18:807 - 没完的?

Hard

往返用得有点略多,可以找其他的图借鉴下

就这些吧,质量很好
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

liangv587 wrote:

Easy

很好
可以加点音效比如24clap(可自定义),在适当的地方加finish,如00:25:047 - 这个需要个人对音乐的理解
其他难度也要加音效谢谢!音效都还没做,因为在考虑自定义音效。

Normal

节奏比较满,四围变成6466直接改名Hard :( ,还是Normal吧
flow有些小问题,其他很好
00:09:687 (1) - 向下弯
00:14:487 (2) - 调到下方,形状自己决定吧
00:22:167 (2) - 反向,再调下间距
00:25:047 (1,3) - 这种在normal不该有的,所以说你这个应该是Hard改了
00:28:887 (1) - 反向,牵一发而动全身,有整体感的没太懂?。。。还得调下间距和形状?
00:36:567 (1) - 向左走
00:39:687 (3) - 变成1/2滑条,00:40:167 (1) - 后退1/2,00:40:167 - 加个圈试试
------------------或者变成1/2折返,00:40:167 (1) - 后退1/2
01:06:567 (1,2) - 这也是Hard改掉了

caellel's Hard

00:10:167 (2,3) - 00:11:127 (5,6) - 前两个小节,把那两个滑条合成1/2滑条吧,给人心理准备
00:17:847 (2,3) - 00:18:807 (5,6) - 合成1/2滑条,再换个花样,一直重复不太好,换个花样重复
00:20:247 (1) - NC个,Comb有点长了,强迫症轻微患者
00:28:887 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - 交换下顺序,从左往右5,7,9,6,8,10
00:37:047 (6,7,8,9,10) - 再找一个梗,应该很好找到可以借鉴的
00:45:687 (1) - NC
00:46:647 (3,4) - 想个形状吧,简单点就好
01:00:567 (3,4) - 不怎么好看
01:04:887 (4) - 反向,往上移动点,01:05:367 (5) - 移到6的下偏左一点,跟4平行
01:08:727 (4) - 跟上个一样的做法,反向再左移
01:12:567 (4) - 向左,跟01:13:047 (5,6) - 平行
01:18:807 - 没完的?
。。。。。在你mod完之后他自己又更新了,不过我会把想法告诉他的

Hard

往返用得有点略多,可以找其他的图借鉴下好的,Hard目前只是在尝试阶段。

就这些吧,质量很好
谢谢!
BigWilly
[Easy]

00:31:767 (2) - Maybe make this a large curve

[Normal]

00:11:367 (3,1) - 3 slightly overlaps 1
00:40:407 (1) - Try to make symmetrical
00:46:647 (4,5) - Try putting these on the same Y axis
01:09:687 (2,3) - Slight overlap
01:14:967 (1,2,1) - The new combo sliders slightly overlap (not the same anywhere else)

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

Feverie wrote:

[Easy]

00:31:767 (2) - Maybe make this a large curve nope,it follows the voca.

[Normal]

00:11:367 (3,1) - 3 slightly overlaps 1 Fixed!
00:40:407 (1) - Try to make symmetrical ?I dont know what you mean :(
00:46:647 (4,5) - Try putting these on the same Y axisFixed
01:09:687 (2,3) - Slight overlapFixed
01:14:967 (1,2,1) - The new combo sliders slightly overlap (not the same anywhere else)Fixed

Good Luck!
Thank you for your mod! :)
cheesiest
NO KD

irc "mod" w/ caellel
20:27 *cheesiest is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359464 niki - HYBRID (Short Ver.) [caellel's Hard]]
20:28 caellel: i have it open now
20:28 cheesiest: kk, so
20:28 cheesiest: 00:32:007 (5) -
20:28 cheesiest: although i see what you're trying to here (putting a slider at the vocal's start)
20:29 cheesiest: It starts on a weak beat and ends on a strong one.
20:29 caellel: yea, maybe if i replace the slider with two single notes?
20:29 cheesiest: yeah.
20:29 cheesiest: and umm
20:29 cheesiest: perhaps space it out a bit more?
20:30 caellel: you mean that part specifically?
20:30 cheesiest: and others like it
20:30 cheesiest: like this: 00:39:687 (8) -
20:30 caellel: yep
20:31 caellel: ok ill take note of that
20:31 cheesiest: kk
20:31 cheesiest: and umm 1 more thing
20:31 cheesiest: these two: 00:10:167 (2,3) -
20:31 cheesiest: perhaps you can just tweak the positioning a little bit
20:32 cheesiest: by highlighting both of them and then clicking the coordinates in the top right
20:32 caellel: is it looking weird?
20:32 cheesiest: nah, it's the spacing, but it's rather minor
20:32 cheesiest: but yeah, perhaps if you can get the distance from 1's end to 2 and the distance from 3 to 4's start to be the same?
20:32 cheesiest: or really close to the same
20:33 caellel: well that i made 3 and 4 by copying 1 and 2 directly and mirroring to create the symmetry
20:33 cheesiest: hmm
20:34 cheesiest: what you can try is
20:34 caellel: do you want there to be a bit more spacing there? i followed the distance snap but i can bump that up a bit to give it more spacing
20:34 caellel: im just trying to understand what exactly i should change lol
20:34 cheesiest: oh, haha sorry
20:35 cheesiest: i meant like
20:35 cheesiest: equalize the spacing
20:35 cheesiest: i can tell you have if you'd like, while also making it symmetrical
20:35 cheesiest: i can tell you how***
20:35 caellel: sure
20:35 cheesiest: alright, so
20:36 cheesiest: put a circle on top of 1's end and 4's start
20:36 cheesiest: in place of the 2 and 3 you have
20:36 cheesiest: and then you can highlight those two circles, and scale them so that the distance between them is around 1.3x
20:37 cheesiest: then, you highlight them and move them together so that the distance from 1 to 2 and from 3 to 4 is 1.3x
20:37 cheesiest: or at least close to 1.3x
20:37 cheesiest: being one off is not much of a deal
20:38 caellel: ok but if i use 1.3 in the scaling, it makes them even farther apart than they were
20:38 caellel: so i need to find the scale that gives me 1.3 distance snap?
20:38 cheesiest: yeah
20:38 cheesiest: that's what i meant lol
20:40 cheesiest: and, that's it, really
20:41 caellel: if i showed you a screenshot of my attempt to do what you just explained would you be able to tell if i fixed it?
20:41 cheesiest: perhaps
20:41 cheesiest: show me an ss
20:41 cheesiest: of you at the time of
20:41 cheesiest: 00:10:047
20:41 caellel: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1283734
20:41 cheesiest: which is the 1/4 b/t 1 and 2
20:41 caellel: ok
20:41 caellel: ill have to take another one
20:41 cheesiest: you got it lol
20:41 cheesiest: nah, you got it
20:42 cheesiest: yeah
20:42 cheesiest: that looks good
20:42 cheesiest: it's 1 pixel to the left compared to mine
20:42 cheesiest: but that's fine
20:43 cheesiest: i mean to the right*
20:43 cheesiest: well anyways, i gtg. i'll post in thread. good luck!
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

cheesiest wrote:

NO KD

irc "mod" w/ caellel
20:27 *cheesiest is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/359464 niki - HYBRID (Short Ver.) [caellel's Hard]]
20:28 caellel: i have it open now
20:28 cheesiest: kk, so
20:28 cheesiest: 00:32:007 (5) -
20:28 cheesiest: although i see what you're trying to here (putting a slider at the vocal's start)
20:29 cheesiest: It starts on a weak beat and ends on a strong one.
20:29 caellel: yea, maybe if i replace the slider with two single notes?
20:29 cheesiest: yeah.
20:29 cheesiest: and umm
20:29 cheesiest: perhaps space it out a bit more?
20:30 caellel: you mean that part specifically?
20:30 cheesiest: and others like it
20:30 cheesiest: like this: 00:39:687 (8) -
20:30 caellel: yep
20:31 caellel: ok ill take note of that
20:31 cheesiest: kk
20:31 cheesiest: and umm 1 more thing
20:31 cheesiest: these two: 00:10:167 (2,3) -
20:31 cheesiest: perhaps you can just tweak the positioning a little bit
20:32 cheesiest: by highlighting both of them and then clicking the coordinates in the top right
20:32 caellel: is it looking weird?
20:32 cheesiest: nah, it's the spacing, but it's rather minor
20:32 cheesiest: but yeah, perhaps if you can get the distance from 1's end to 2 and the distance from 3 to 4's start to be the same?
20:32 cheesiest: or really close to the same
20:33 caellel: well that i made 3 and 4 by copying 1 and 2 directly and mirroring to create the symmetry
20:33 cheesiest: hmm
20:34 cheesiest: what you can try is
20:34 caellel: do you want there to be a bit more spacing there? i followed the distance snap but i can bump that up a bit to give it more spacing
20:34 caellel: im just trying to understand what exactly i should change lol
20:34 cheesiest: oh, haha sorry
20:35 cheesiest: i meant like
20:35 cheesiest: equalize the spacing
20:35 cheesiest: i can tell you have if you'd like, while also making it symmetrical
20:35 cheesiest: i can tell you how***
20:35 caellel: sure
20:35 cheesiest: alright, so
20:36 cheesiest: put a circle on top of 1's end and 4's start
20:36 cheesiest: in place of the 2 and 3 you have
20:36 cheesiest: and then you can highlight those two circles, and scale them so that the distance between them is around 1.3x
20:37 cheesiest: then, you highlight them and move them together so that the distance from 1 to 2 and from 3 to 4 is 1.3x
20:37 cheesiest: or at least close to 1.3x
20:37 cheesiest: being one off is not much of a deal
20:38 caellel: ok but if i use 1.3 in the scaling, it makes them even farther apart than they were
20:38 caellel: so i need to find the scale that gives me 1.3 distance snap?
20:38 cheesiest: yeah
20:38 cheesiest: that's what i meant lol
20:40 cheesiest: and, that's it, really
20:41 caellel: if i showed you a screenshot of my attempt to do what you just explained would you be able to tell if i fixed it?
20:41 cheesiest: perhaps
20:41 cheesiest: show me an ss
20:41 cheesiest: of you at the time of
20:41 cheesiest: 00:10:047
20:41 caellel: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1283734
20:41 cheesiest: which is the 1/4 b/t 1 and 2
20:41 caellel: ok
20:41 caellel: ill have to take another one
20:41 cheesiest: you got it lol
20:41 cheesiest: nah, you got it
20:42 cheesiest: yeah
20:42 cheesiest: that looks good
20:42 cheesiest: it's 1 pixel to the left compared to mine
20:42 cheesiest: but that's fine
20:43 cheesiest: i mean to the right*
20:43 cheesiest: well anyways, i gtg. i'll post in thread. good luck!
Thank you!!!!!!!~
Winek
Yo! Just my modding. Btw thanks for your mod, it was kind of useful. or not
SPOILER
lol joke.

Let's get to mod already.

[Easy]
00:23:127 (1,1) - Swap NC? It fits more the vocals.
01:26:487 (1) - Remove NC?

[Normal]
Nothing :(

[Hard]
00:25:047 (6) - Fit more the vocals, NC?
00:32:727 (6) - ^
00:44:727 (4) - This note doesn't sound pretty well. Just reduce it of 1 tick

I mean, is it your map that are too perfect or my mod that are too hopless? :cry:
I'm sorry i can't help you much. But forgiving sake, Can I do an Insane? Just feel free to deny btw.

:| I'm not sure you should kds this post btw. :|
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

Winek wrote:

Yo! Just my modding. Btw thanks for your mod, it was kind of useful. or not
SPOILER
lol joke.

Let's get to mod already.

[Easy]
00:23:127 (1,1) - Swap NC? It fits more the vocals. Okay
01:26:487 (1) - Remove NC? Okay

[Normal]
Nothing :(

[Hard]
00:25:047 (6) - Fit more the vocals, NC?
00:32:727 (6) - ^
00:44:727 (4) - This note doesn't sound pretty well. Just reduce it of 1 tick Waiting for caellel's reply.

I mean, is it your map that are too perfect or my mod that are too hopless? :cry:
I'm sorry i can't help you much. But forgiving sake, Can I do an Insane? Just feel free to deny btw.
I am sorry for this. Not GD atm now :(
:| I'm not sure you should kds this post btw. :|
Thank you for your mod! It really helps improve this map. Do m4m with you is a happy thing because you always respond quickly :)
caellel
Just wanted to say thanks to liangv587, cheesiest, and Winek for their mods to help make my diff better.

I also wanna thank Regraz for letting me do a GD, and for all his help and effort to make this mapset :D

This diff is my first beatmap, and I've learned a lot. I also have to give some credit to the #modhelp guys for their help answering my questions.

*crosses fingers* hoping this gets ranked :3
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

caellel wrote:

Just wanted to say thanks to liangv587, cheesiest, and Winek for their mods to help make my diff better.

I also wanna thank Regraz for letting me do a GD, and for all his help and effort to make this mapset :D

This diff is my first beatmap, and I've learned a lot. I also have to give some credit to the #modhelp guys for their help answering my questions.

*crosses fingers* hoping this gets ranked :3
*Hug caellel~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:D
We're both new mappers, however we have the enthusiasm to make better maps!
We believe that we can make progress through this process:)
Winek
I wanna beecome a bat just to bubble. Star :)
Nvirjskly
Hi!

Feel free to disagree with everything I wrote.

[General]
Caellel's diff letterboxes during breaks, unlike all other diffs

[Easy]
00:23:127 (3) - NC?

01:16:887 (1) - The spinner is too short for easy and 01:18:807 (1) appears before the spinner ends confusing new players. Make into a long slider?

01:24:567 (3) - More than one repeat arrow in an easy will confuse newer players.
01:28:407 (3) - ^

[Normal]

00:44:007 (1) - Move NC to 00:45:207 (2)? Tough call, so IDK.
01:04:887 (1) - NC to 01:05:367 (2)
01:06:567 (1) - NC to 01:07:287 (2)
01:16:887 (3) - NC


[Hard]
Again, the letterboxing.

00:39:687 (8) - The way it overlaps with 00:40:167 (1) looks weird; rearrange?
01:19:287 (1) - The way a beat is skipped and the slider appears on the same spot as the previous note can be confusing. consider moving either this slider or 01:18:327 (2)


Nice mapset!
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

Nvirjskly wrote:

Hi! Hi!

Feel free to disagree with everything I wrote.

[General]
Caellel's diff letterboxes during breaks, unlike all other diffs Okay!Fixed

[Easy]
00:23:127 (3) - NC? nope

01:16:887 (1) - The spinner is too short for easy and 01:18:807 (1) appears before the spinner ends confusing new players. Make into a long slider? Okay!Fixed

01:24:567 (3) - More than one repeat arrow in an easy will confuse newer players. Okay!Fixed
01:28:407 (3) - ^ Fixed

[Normal]

00:44:007 (1) - Move NC to 00:45:207 (2)? Tough call, so IDK.
01:04:887 (1) - NC to 01:05:367 (2)
01:06:567 (1) - NC to 01:07:287 (2)
01:16:887 (3) - NC
All Done!

[Hard]
Again, the letterboxing.

00:39:687 (8) - The way it overlaps with 00:40:167 (1) looks weird; rearrange?
01:19:287 (1) - The way a beat is skipped and the slider appears on the same spot as the previous note can be confusing. consider moving either this slider or 01:18:327 (2)
Waiting for caellel's reply.

Nice mapset!
Thank you!
Topic Starter
Mafumafu
Hmm seems I need to revive this soon.
Topic Starter
Mafumafu
OK I have time on this again!
more niki more lily!
Meg
hi
from M4M

Normal
  1. 00:09:687 (1) - add finish on head
  2. 00:31:767 (2) - try this rhythm?
  3. 00:46:167 (1) - add clap on tail
  4. 00:48:087 (1) - add finish on head
  5. 01:03:447 (1) - ^
  6. 01:18:807 (1) - sampleset soft on head
  7. 01:18:807 (1) - add finish on tail?
  8. 01:32:247 (1) - sampleset soft on head
Hard
  1. same as above hitsounds
  2. 00:20:967 - add note?
  3. 01:27:447 (3) - try this?
  4. 01:28:167 - add note?
good luck~
Haruto
hello :)
Some Small Suggestion From me :)

~ General ~
Song Setup
  1. Design : Please Uncheck "Widescreen Support"
Others
  1. Fine

Normal
  1. Try To make the Spacing Consistent Please, Example 00:09:687 (1,2) -
  2. 00:21:207 (1) - Can you make the Slider more "Smoother"? Example or This
  3. 00:22:167 (2) - ^
  4. 00:23:127 (1) - ^
  5. 00:24:087 (2) - ^
  6. 00:50:007 (3) - Make it Curve? it'll looks nicer imo, and it can be blanket with (4)
  7. 00:52:407 - 00:54:087 - I Guess, 1/1 here isn't fit imo, try to change the pattern like this? or this? also, can you make the slider shape curve? 00:53:847 (5) - this can be blanket with the next object
  8. 00:57:447 - add a note i guess? also, make it curve will looks better imo
  9. 01:01:527 (3) - Can you make slider like this curved? there's a lot of slider like this isn't curved in the diff
Nice Diff, but There's still some stuff that needs some Improvement here :)
Hard
  1. I Recommend you to Keep Every spacing is Consistent, Example : 00:10:407 (2,3) - Spacing here is still not Consistent
  2. 00:11:967 - add a note? for following the vocal :)
  3. 00:31:767 (3,4,1) - look here, try to Avoid Overlap like them, because it will looks ugly in the play/test mode
  4. 00:51:927 (1) - i guess you should change this slider, how about making it like this? it looks better imo
  5. 00:57:207 (4,2) - umm, just my opinion, if (2) stacked with (4) there''ll be a trap i think, Try to not Stack them?. lol rip english
  6. 01:05:847 (2) - can you change the slider shape like this? it'll looks like 01:04:887 (4) - is stacked with the slider border of (2) and it'll looks like this
  7. 01:20:247 (4) - make it curve?
Nice Symmetry you have here on the Diff, but i think you still needs more Modders Opinion :)
[]
Good Luck ;)
Topic Starter
Mafumafu

Haruto - wrote:

hello :)
Some Small Suggestion From me :)

~ General ~
Song Setup
  1. Design : Please Uncheck "Widescreen Support"
Others
  1. Fine

Normal
  1. Try To make the Spacing Consistent Please, Example 00:09:687 (1,2) -
  2. 00:21:207 (1) - Can you make the Slider more "Smoother"? Example or This
  3. 00:22:167 (2) - ^
  4. 00:23:127 (1) - ^
  5. 00:24:087 (2) - ^
  6. 00:50:007 (3) - Make it Curve? it'll looks nicer imo, and it can be blanket with (4)
  7. 00:52:407 - 00:54:087 - I Guess, 1/1 here isn't fit imo, try to change the pattern like this? or this? also, can you make the slider shape curve? 00:53:847 (5) - this can be blanket with the next object
  8. 00:57:447 - add a note i guess? also, make it curve will looks better imo
  9. 01:01:527 (3) - Can you make slider like this curved? there's a lot of slider like this isn't curved in the diff
Nice Diff, but There's still some stuff that needs some Improvement here :)
Hard
  1. I Recommend you to Keep Every spacing is Consistent, Example : 00:10:407 (2,3) - Spacing here is still not Consistent
  2. 00:11:967 - add a note? for following the vocal :)
  3. 00:31:767 (3,4,1) - look here, try to Avoid Overlap like them, because it will looks ugly in the play/test mode
  4. 00:51:927 (1) - i guess you should change this slider, how about making it like this? it looks better imo
  5. 00:57:207 (4,2) - umm, just my opinion, if (2) stacked with (4) there''ll be a trap i think, Try to not Stack them?. lol rip english
  6. 01:05:847 (2) - can you change the slider shape like this? it'll looks like 01:04:887 (4) - is stacked with the slider border of (2) and it'll looks like this
  7. 01:20:247 (4) - make it curve?
Nice Symmetry you have here on the Diff, but i think you still needs more Modders Opinion :)
[]
Good Luck ;)
Hmm I guess all your mod is about the details of mapping. I will look into these. However I tink they are all fine. Spacing is tenable if there's no more than 0.1x variety within.

Thanks for these anyway!

Meg wrote:

hi
from M4M

Normal
  1. 00:09:687 (1) - add finish on head
  2. 00:31:767 (2) - try this rhythm?
  3. 00:46:167 (1) - add clap on tail
  4. 00:48:087 (1) - add finish on head
  5. 01:03:447 (1) - ^
  6. 01:18:807 (1) - sampleset soft on head
  7. 01:18:807 (1) - add finish on tail?
  8. 01:32:247 (1) - sampleset soft on head
Hard
  1. same as above hitsounds
  2. 00:20:967 - add note?
  3. 01:27:447 (3) - try this?
  4. 01:28:167 - add note?
good luck~
All fixed
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