16:17 Hinsvar: Err hello
16:17 Hinsvar: Available for a testplay?
16:17 Kodora: :3
16:32 *Hinsvar is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/370612 BoA - Kiseki]
16:32 Hinsvar: Yep.
16:37 Kodora: .тз
16:40 Kodora: wow, didn't expected extra for calm song like this one
16:40 Kodora: Nicely mapped actually, there are just some problems with spacing
16:40 Hinsvar: Well, it has a lot of 1/4s it might as well be a 210 BPM song if not for the instruments' pattern.
16:41 Hinsvar: Yep, I expected that.
16:41 Kodora: 00:00:960 (3,4,5) - this antijump is very hard to get at first attempt
16:41 Kodora: at least NC on (3) should help a bit
16:41 Kodora: 00:02:103 (3,4,5) - samer
16:41 Kodora: *same
16:41 Hinsvar: Sure, added.
16:41 Kodora: well, same to all parts like that
16:42 Kodora: 00:06:531 (3,1) - random jump why?
16:42 Kodora: DS here should be same as above
16:42 Hinsvar: Eh, is that one random? o.o
16:42 Hinsvar: I think it follows the instruments here quite nicely, but okay.
16:43 Kodora: because it feels bad
16:43 Hinsvar: It plays better, anyway~
16:43 Kodora: i know, you want kind of "accent" on last note but it makes note right after it so hard to catch
16:43 Kodora: 00:08:389 (3) - NC please
16:44 Hinsvar: Okay.
16:44 Kodora: 00:14:246 (1,2) - will be much easier to catch if you will swap them on timeline
16:44 Kodora: also it will sounds better imo
16:46 Kodora: 00:29:674 (4,5,6) - too evil antijump, basically looks like 1/8 notes, add NC to (4) at least please
16:46 Hinsvar: Did everything.
16:46 Kodora: 00:35:912 (2,3) - oh lol i was wondering is this 1/4 or 1/8
16:46 Kodora: imo putting 1/6 is really too much
16:47 Kodora: change to slider please
16:47 Kodora: will be much intuitive
16:48 Kodora: 00:44:389 (4,1,2,3) - really weird antijump. after jumpy part i was expecting 1/8 notes again and suddenly this
16:48 Kodora: this "jump-stop-jump" technique can works, but in this case it is just too confusing & plays bad
16:49 Hinsvar: Changed those 1/6 notes to a slider.
16:49 Hinsvar: Hmm.
16:49 Kodora: if you play it at first try
16:49 Kodora: you don't know music
16:50 Kodora: so you will be just not able to predict stuff like this
16:50 Hinsvar: Yep, you're right.
16:50 Hinsvar: Maybe normally spacing it would work better.
16:50 Kodora: 01:11:960 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as above
16:51 Kodora: basically, get rid of antijumps like this
16:51 Hinsvar: Unstack 01:12:817 (6) - ?
16:51 Hinsvar: Okay.
16:51 Kodora: and you will solve all problems with spacing
16:51 Kodora: yea
16:51 Kodora: kiai part mapped wise
16:53 Kodora: that's all i guess
16:54 Hinsvar: Hmm, okay then~
16:54 Hinsvar: Thanks for the help
16:54 Kodora: np :3/
16:55 Hinsvar: ~
16:56 Hinsvar: Maybe this map is still far from being a "Best of (insert year here)" candidate lol
16:56 Kodora: i'm not a fan of RLC
16:56 Kodora: lol
16:58 Hinsvar: lol
16:58 Hinsvar: Well I wish I could make something that's really enjoyable here~
16:59 Kodora: yeah, map is nice
16:59 Kodora: good luck with it :3
17:00 Hinsvar: :d

02:21 Oracle: that was intense
02:21 Oracle: idk maybe it's just me
02:21 Oracle: 00:03:960 (1,2,3,4) -
02:22 Oracle: but this kind of linear notes is even harder than those jumps lol
02:22 Oracle: very easy to miss
02:22 Hinsvar: I guess it's because the spacing at 00:03:817 (3,1,2) - changes, but you still have to keep on singletapping.
02:22 Hinsvar: I'll try to change (1,2) to a slider.
02:22 Hinsvar: Maybe it'll work? lol
02:23 Oracle: ahh that's very likely the reason
02:23 Oracle: but 2 is white tick
02:23 Hinsvar: Okay, I'll do exactly that for now.
02:23 Hinsvar: 2? o.o
02:24 Oracle: better have note/slider on white tick
02:24 Oracle: 00:03:960 (1) -
02:24 Oracle: sorry it's 1 = =
02:24 Hinsvar: I thought (1) was the one on the white tick?
02:24 Hinsvar: lol
02:25 Oracle: 1 more thing to bother
02:25 Oracle: 00:28:246 (3) -
02:25 Oracle: better have this part with notes
02:26 Oracle: 00:27:960 (1,2) - the music is exactly the same as these 2 notes
02:26 Oracle: i would really like to hit 2 more notes rather than a slider :3
02:27 Hinsvar: Done!
02:27 Oracle: this applys to other parts in the song with similar rhythm
02:27 Oracle: would be a grate improve imo
02:28 Oracle: 00:30:531 (3) - like this one, and many moree!
02:29 Oracle: 00:39:389 (3,4,5) - this is okay, no need to change since all of them are sliders
02:31 Hinsvar: Hmm, sure, I'll try to improve them.
02:31 Hinsvar: Thanks
02:31 Oracle: that's all i found for now, can't go through the whole diff because i got other reqs :<
02:31 Hinsvar: Okay, okay.

11:27 Xinely: tenshichan. are you have some time to testplay my Rain GD? ><
11:28 Tenshichan: Sure
11:28 Tenshichan: :3
11:28 *Xinely is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/380204 BoA - Kiseki]
11:28 Xinely: actually a collab Indo ctb mappers lol, thanks nyan >3<
11:29 Tenshichan: is this BPM x2?
11:32 Xinely: BPMx2?
11:32 Xinely: if SV changing, no in this mapset ><
11:32 Xinely: *diff. just one
11:33 Tenshichan: Its harder than Rain
11:33 Tenshichan: more overdose
11:34 Xinely: actually yes but for my part only lol
11:34 Tenshichan: There are a few hyper patterns which should be avoided imo
11:37 Xinely: mingmichael asked deif and deif told us to keep the name of Rain first ><
11:37 Xinely: hmm can you mention them? ><
11:40 Tenshichan: 01:17:124 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) -
11:40 Tenshichan: this for example
11:40 Xinely: lol i got it.. hmm wait let me tweak first
11:40 Tenshichan: because there follows are really hard jump after a hyper to a normal fruit which is hard to catch
11:41 Xinely: it feels as overdose too xD
11:42 Xinely: okay fixed
11:42 Xinely: should be easy to catch now
11:44 Tenshichan: Maybe you guys can do a bit variety?
11:44 Tenshichan: Because on some parts it is just like... "slider with dash to a single note"
11:44 Tenshichan: and its a lot
11:45 Tenshichan: what I mean is like this pattern
11:45 Tenshichan: 03:32:332 (6,7,8,1,2,3) -
11:45 Xinely: oh yeah i feel it too.. but dunno how to solve it ><
11:45 Xinely: because this is not my part, i can't fix it ofc
11:46 Tenshichan: yea
11:46 Tenshichan: there are few ways to solve this rhythm different
11:47 Xinely: maybe need remap for rhythm? o.o
11:47 Tenshichan: I would change some of these parts and map it differently
11:48 Tenshichan: because it doesnt play so elegant when a certain pattern repeats a lot
11:48 Xinely: perharps mods able to solve it ><
11:48 Xinely: since collab means unique mapping style merged become one
11:49 Tenshichan: I also dont like the triplets with a hyperdash in the middle, but that might be just me xD
11:49 Tenshichan: 04:01:703 (2,3,4) - like this
11:50 Xinely: oh yeah i want to change them actually lol
11:52 Tenshichan: 02:08:720 (2,3,4) -
11:52 Tenshichan: this jump
11:52 Tenshichan: is somehow difficult to catch
11:52 Tenshichan: because 2 -> 3 hyper, 3 -> 4 non-hyper
11:53 Xinely: aa yap changed
11:53 Tenshichan: 02:13:151 (1,2,3,4,5) - this part by ursa, feels somehow empty
11:54 Tenshichan: 02:13:723 - should be note
11:54 Tenshichan: also at 02:14:866
11:54 Xinely: agreed but i think you need to tell ursa instead me. since i can't fix or change anything
11:54 Xinely: somehow i feel it's his mapping style
11:54 Xinely: he following vocal orz
11:55 Tenshichan: yeah but its the kiai and it feels sometimes off
11:55 Xinely: i'm totally agree btw but maybe you can mention it on thread while posting thir irc mod C:
11:56 Tenshichan: because sometimes it creates weird spacing because of the gaps like 02:26:729 (5) -
11:56 Xinely: seems as trap lol
11:56 Xinely: if standard xD
11:58 Xinely: please mention ursa/mingmichael parts on thread, so they can read and fix them. instead tell to me who can't fix their part, gomene tenshichan ><
12:00 Tenshichan: 03:55:200 (6,7) - wouldn't it be better to make a slider out of them?
12:00 Tenshichan: thats you part :p
12:01 Xinely: hmm, 03:55:200 (6) - is this feel too sudden for catch?
12:01 Xinely: if yes, i will reduce the spacing instead slider because.... aaa personal taste xD
12:02 Tenshichan: Im more concerned about 03:55:628 (7) - because the spacing of it is weird because of the large gap :p
12:02 Xinely: hmm okay i understand, slider then ~
12:02 Tenshichan: well the jump also is a bit surprising because it is a calm part
12:03 Xinely: nah i mean that xD
12:03 Tenshichan: 00:03:089 (2) - should be a bit more to the right imo
12:04 Tenshichan: 00:05:805 (6) - same ^^
12:04 Xinely: ups, i was thought it's as standard lol
12:05 Xinely: fixed xD
12:05 Tenshichan: 00:11:808 (1) - Im missing a beat on 00:11:951 here
12:06 Xinely: i following piano here QAQ
12:07 Tenshichan: 00:17:096 (3,4) - this part maybe
12:07 Tenshichan: 3 around x:400
12:07 Tenshichan: 4 around x:192
12:08 Xinely: nice idea, fixed but a little bit change coordinate with my taste :p
12:08 Tenshichan: 00:20:383 (5) - shouldnt it be at 00:20:240 ?
12:08 Tenshichan: oh nvm
12:08 Tenshichan: its ursas part already XD
12:09 Xinely: ursa xD
12:09 Tenshichan: 00:35:962
12:10 Tenshichan: gap here, have you tried a spinner already?
12:10 Tenshichan: following the vocal
12:10 Xinely: hmmm, wait >3<
12:10 Tenshichan: not sure if you like it because the spinner is also really short then
12:11 Xinely: aa i'm not really like to give spin here, sorry nyan :<
12:12 Tenshichan: 00:40:250 something missing?
12:13 Xinely: i'm following crystal sound soooooo. xD
12:13 Xinely: and only low drum sound (maybe) here so yeah let give a break lol
12:14 Tenshichan: 01:15:838 (9) - to x:176
12:15 Xinely: done ~
12:15 Tenshichan: 01:17:839 (10) - x:304 maybe?
12:16 Xinely: remapped because you told it as hell before :p
12:17 Tenshichan: oh, yeah
12:18 Xinely: hehe xD
12:18 Tenshichan: well to ming and ursa parts, they should review about the slider/note combos which are overuse
12:18 Tenshichan: also besides that mings parts seem fine
12:19 Xinely: aa yap, if this irc is done, save and post it to get kudo xD
12:19 Tenshichan: ursa, well, it troubles me a bit that he is only following the vocals at some parts it shouldnt be done imo
12:19 Tenshichan: Currently I dont see more issues in your part, sometimes it is hard, but that doesnt mean it is bad
12:20 Xinely: sorry about it because my style do to hard parts as i did on keisei lol
12:20 Tenshichan: its fine