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Nanameue-P - Honey

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Alice
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on samedi 14 novembre 2009 at 15:16:12

Artist: Nanameue-P
Title: Honey
Tags: sakine meiko hatsune miku kaito kagamine rin len yowane haku kasane teto neru akita all stars vocaloid
BPM: 142
Filesize: 16126kb
Play Time: 03:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Alice Honey (4,81 stars, 475 notes)
  2. Cutie Rox (3,29 stars, 250 notes)
  3. Sweetie Ema (4,74 stars, 320 notes)
Download: Nanameue-P - Honey
Download: Nanameue-P - Honey (no video)
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Roxkyuubiforever~Ema Skye~Alice Margatroid
[cutie - sweetie - honey]

This map is better to play with video!~
Sushi
[Rox]
Nice~

[Ema]
01:01:34 (4) - new combo?
01:06:20 (6) - décale d'1/2 beat vers la droite (met le sur le trait blanc, ça sonne mieux)
01:11:27 (4) - Rend ce coeur un peu plus beau!De plus, l'overlap qui suit n'est pas génial.
01:25:64 (5) - ^ et ^ (pour l'overlap)
01:44:87 (1,2,3,4) - le (1) et le (3) ne sont pas symétriques par rapport au (2) et (4)
01:47:19 (1,2) - symétrie (et fais moi cette symétrie bien par rapport au centre!)
02:04:09 (2,3) - tu ne peux pas faire ça. on ne peut pas deviner la présence du slider.
02:10:85 (1,2,3) - spacing inconstant
02:51:41 (4,5) - spacing
02:53:11 (3,4) - ^

Il manque beaucoup de breaks dans cette difficulté. il y a de trop grand moment de blanc sans rien.
Et je ne la trouve pas du tout intuitive


[Alice]
Je ne vais pas tous les repertorier, mais les triplets/doublets qui sont pas empilés et tous proches (genre 02:35:36 (1,2,3)), empile les. c'est moche de voir trois trucs illisibles indépendemment si c'est pas un stream.
00:14:02 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - c'est beau, mais je pense que la confusion s'installera vite.
01:30:29 (1,2,3) - Non. Enfin, a mon avis.
02:41:27 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - chaud... ça va mais c'est vraiment pas intuitif a mon avis
03:06:41 (3,4) - c'est bon a priori, mais je suis pas trop d'accord.

[Skin]
pas grand chose a dire, je pensais que des hitcircles transparents ce serai moyen, mais ça passe.
par contre, l'écran de pause est pas lisible. le texte blanc sur fond clair, bubuuuu.
bien joué pour le lightning par contre


Sinon, la map est pas mal. pas assez intuitive a mon gout, mais c'est pas mal o/
Star~
Topic Starter
Alice
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Ema Skye
Oooook ... comme dit Alice, intuitif ? ...

01:01:34 (4) : tu as raison, done

01:06:20 (6) - décale d'1/2 beat vers la droite (met le sur le trait blanc, ça sonne mieux)
01:11:27 (4) - Rend ce coeur un peu plus beau!De plus, l'overlap qui suit n'est pas génial.
01:25:64 (5) - ^ et ^ (pour l'overlap)
Je ne suis pas d'accord, je ne déplacerai pas le beat pour le moment, et mon coeur, je le trouve très bien. Pour l'overlap, je verrai s'il dérange plusieurs personnes, désolée mais pour l'instant je ne le trouve pas si horrible ... on verra.

01:44:87 (1,2,3,4) - le (1) et le (3) ne sont pas symétriques par rapport au (2) et (4)
01:47:19 (1,2) - symétrie (et fais moi cette symétrie bien par rapport au centre!)
C'est fait, tu as raison, ça manquait d'esthétisme, mais pas la peine d'employer l'impératif mon cher, un petit conditionnel n'aurait-il point suffit ;) ?

02:04:09 (2,3) - tu ne peux pas faire ça. on ne peut pas deviner la présence du slider.
Je vais peut-être manquer d'originalité avec ce pseudo coup de gueule, mais ne permettrions-nous pas à beaucoup de mappeurs avec une certaine notoriété de le faire ;) ? hmm je comprends qu'il te gêne, mais euh ... je ne trouve pas, vu le niveau de difficulté de la map (pas vraiment difficile ...), qu'il soit extrêmement dangereux, de plus, on le voit clairement arriver par transparence du slider qui le précède ...

02:10:85 (1,2,3) - spacing inconstant
02:51:41 (4,5) - spacing
02:53:11 (3,4) - ^
J'ai essayé de faire de mon mieux pour y remédier je crois, tu me diras si ça va mieux ...

Merci pour tes remarques, même si je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi sur tout =), pour les breaks, j'en ai rajouté un à la fin où le creux est vraiment long, sinon, ça ôterait quelque chose à ma map je trouve, je n'aime pas mettre des breaks sans arrêt, mais bon ... Quant à intuitif, ben comme je l'ai dit dans ma première remarque, je ne vois pas trop ce qu'elle manque "d'intuitif".

Download: Nanameue-P - Honey (Alice Margatroid) [Sweetie Ema].osu
Topic Starter
Alice
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Mashley
Could you get a better quality mp3? 64kbps is pretty awful, you should be aiming around 190 or so.
Please don't place timing section that change the hitsounds on top of notes, if the note is hit early, it will play the wrong hitsounds.

Cutie Rox
I suggest making the circles 1 notch smaller, as they are now is quite cluttered and ugly to be honest.

Sweetie Ema
01:03:67 (6) - Space this please.
02:04:09 (2,3,4) - Very confusing overlapping sliders. Please change it.

Alice Honey
00:44:44 (7) - New combo - it overlaps and slows down >.<
01:37:26 (4) - Spacing please
02:32:82 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:16:98 (1) - I just like this slider. That's all.
03:18:46 (1,2,3) - Spacing please

Good map, love the skin!
Topic Starter
Alice
Rox diff: I don't really think it needs so but if Rox is ok I'll change this next update. o:


k, my diff now |:

00:44:44 (7) - I don't really agree with combo and for some reason I will surely not accept lots of combo mods ><"" (plays with which vocaloid sing and combo colours)
Also, yes, It overlaps and slow down >: let's say if too many people are angry with this I'll change
02:32:82 (1,2,3,4) - If you're talking about the jump, that's quite wanted. O: If you're not I don't see a spacing issue. >< But I may be blind or something D:
03:16:98 (1) - Lol, thanks <:
Otherwise all done.

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Good map, love the skin!
Thanks!


Still waiting for Ema fixes to update o:

EDIT: Updated.
GabrielRKF
//Sweetie Ema//
  1. 00:45:081(5) - Reeeeeally too close with the (4). Don't forget to change the 6 and 7 positions too.
  2. 00:50:363(3) - make it in the same place that is the (2) and let the (4) with no note on the top.
  3. 00:51:631(8) - too close with the (7). Move it to a more distance place, like the pic: =]
  4. 00:51:208(7) - New Combo
  5. 00:57:757(7) - 3 level 2 grids up!
  6. 01:03:673(6) - too close with the 5 >.>
  7. 01:08:426(2) - move 2 grids to the left.
Why you girls don't use distance snap? ,__, Using it makes the map way more natural! T_T
But the map is still good.

//Overall//
The aproach circle is a little bit hard to see for me >.>

No time to mod Alice's diff. Mod it later. for now my star :3


EDIT: Here is the edited lighting :3

Kurai
Hi~
[Cutie Rox]
00:29:23 (x) - Note?

[Sweetie Ema]
*00:45:08 (5) - New combo ?
*00:51:63 (8) - ^
*00:57:75 (7) - Utilise le distance snap
01:25:64 (5) - J'aime pas trop l'emplacement de ce slider, je te propose de le placer la, sa fait plus beau :Þ
03:01:34 (3) - Pas très beau

[Alice Honey]
01:25:22 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - J'aime pas trop, sa va pas très bien dans le rythme donc revoit cette partie
01:45:50 (4) - J'aime bien ce slider (Remarque inutile je sais)
02:27:01 (17) - Je trouve que un finish va mieux (juste mon avis personnel)

Voila Edit de mon post, Les 3 map sont superbe donc...
☼STAR☼
Topic Starter
Alice
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Ema Skye
roxkyuubi :
00:45:081(5) - Reeeeeally too close with the (4). Don't forget to change the 6 and 7 positions too.
00:51:631(8) - too close with the (7). Move it to a more distance place, like the pic: =]
00:51:208(7) - New Combo
01:03:673(6) - too close with the 5 >.>
Done
00:50:363(3) - make it in the same place that is the (2) and let the (4) with no note on the top.
Sorry i won't

00:57:757(7) - 3 level 2 grids up!
Supposed to be a little jump, so now with what i've done everyone will notice it xD

01:08:426(2) - move 2 grids to the left.
As a conclusion, sorry i won't =3



Quant a Kurai, à part le V de Vocaloid qui apparemment est pas beau xD (poor me =3) hmm ah oui j'ai effectué le transfert de coeur =), merci pour la suggestion et aussi j'ai amélioré mon pitit coeur voilà

Thank you both of you !

Download: Nanameue-P - Honey (Alice Margatroid) [Sweetie Ema].osu
Shinxyn
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Topic Starter
Alice
Shinxyn: yes, all names o: xD
Thanks for your mod.
Random things I speedly read:
"The claps could be paced better, but its fine..." : I do hitsounds like I love them not like every people likes (osu! hitsound-fanservice? lol) ;_;
"Btw, I really don't like the hit0.png, looks bloody D:": that's a sort of contrast with the cutie skin. It can be a stain of random red water too, lol! *invalid argument*
"Delete the "A - (Alice Margatroid).osb", and "star.png" doesn't appear anywhere on a beatmap itself" I fail at life xP thanks, I'll do it while next update (waiting for me to look at diff mod (busy at time) and rox&ema |) )


@Ema Skye avant de me renvoyer tes modifs, reprends bien l'ancienne avec le mod de Roxkyuubi, parce que j'ai pas updatés celles la, donc ça ira plus vite. Merci :3
GabrielRKF
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Nanameue-P - Honey (Alice Margatroid) [Cutie Rox].osu
Ema Skye
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Nanameue-P - Honey (Alice Margatroid) [Sweetie Ema].osu
Topic Starter
Alice
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Diasios
i love this map *w*

starred~
Andrea
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

- Add a preview point for all diff's.
- Try to make better the skin.

[Cutie Rox]

Awesome, but you need a more easier difficulty.

[Sweetie Ema]

00:24:58 (3) - New combo.
00:57:75 (7) - Add a break after this note.
01:13:39 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern is hidden to see.
03:20:36 (3) - New combo.
03:29:87 (1) - Maybe this note isn't easy to see.

[Alice Honey]

00:46:03 (1) - Start this on white tick, never blue!
01:25:64 (5,6,7,8,9) - A little confusing. Try to make better this spacing.
02:12:54 (9) - I suggest to remove this note, sounds out of place.
02:26:49 (12) - New combo.
02:30:29 (5) - ^

02:32:82 (1,2,3,4) - People maybe can't see this jump.
03:07:26 (4) - Slider completely hidden.
Topic Starter
Alice
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Derekku
[General]
*playfield.jpg is too big. Please resize to under 1024x768 (max size allowed)
*Sweetie Ema diff has tags listed as source by accident :P
*I'd put Nanameue-P as the Source and Meiko Sakine as the artist (maybe with "feat. Vocaloids" or something after it since many of them are singing in the song)

Vocaloid Wiki wrote:

Nanameue-P (斜め上P) originally became famous for his Rin and Len Rap Remix cover of the Miku classic "Melt," and he also earned the "Legendary Kagamine Master" title on Nico Nico Douga for his cover of "Arigatou." In April of 2008 he started creating works using MEIKO, specifically covers of cute pop tunes using the image and sound of Meiko Sakine, a fanmade version of MEIKO at the age of 16 who uses a higher-pitched voice. Many of his Meiko Sakine works have become quite popular, earning him the "Legendary MEIKO Master" title on Nico Nico Douga. Nanameue-P is also noted as being one of the only producers, other than Ichigyou-P, who uses Rin to create the voice of Neru instead of Miku.
*Also, the offset feels early. Try 7,285ms please :)
*I like the pastel colors, but they're kind of hard to see against the bg. Could you darken them a tiny bit?

[Cutie Rox]
01:05:99 (2) - I'd move the last anchor point to the left one grid so that it's parallel with (1) </nazi>

[Sweetie Ema]
*Turn up overall diff a notch?

[Alice Honey]
*Turn up overall diff a notch?
01:11:40 (1) - Maybe extend to the next white tick?
01:31:15 (4,5) - Unrankable (can't tell which is the slider and which is the circle)
02:26:51 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - Not sure if this is rankable or not. I don't think I've ever seen a stream clustered like this o.o;
02:33:79 (5,6) - It'd probably be a good idea to h-flip this to the other side. Having gradually bigger spacing and then just having really-close spacing is very confusing and might not be the best idea. (Other people have gotten yelled at for the same thing) I think I saw this is other places too, but this one really tripped me up.
03:04:32 (1,2,3) - Unrankable (can't tell which is the slider and which is the circle)
03:06:01 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:27:56 (5) - Maybe new combo this?
*Some confusing spots overall, but not too bad

EDIT:
*Add Kasane Teto to tags
*Is Megurine Luka in this? I don't think I saw her in the video :X (confused as to why she's in the spinner-bg, even though it's a really cute picture nonetheless)
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