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Noriko Kawahara - Odin Sphere's Theme

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Dusty
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, February 22, 2010 at 6:38:27 PM

Artist: Noriko Kawahara
Title: Odin Sphere's Theme
Source: Odin Sphere
Tags: MarioBros777 Vanillaware Hitoshi Sakimoto
BPM: 68
Filesize: 14087kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0.53 stars, 53 notes)
  2. Hard (3.82 stars, 148 notes)
  3. MB's Heroic (4.52 stars, 161 notes)
  4. Normal (1.64 stars, 84 notes)
Download: Noriko Kawahara - Odin Sphere's Theme
Download: Noriko Kawahara - Odin Sphere's Theme (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Changed: kingcobra's mod

If you downloaded before 2/21 you need to do a full redownload.
And this got remapped sometime around New Year's, so remodding would be appreciated.

Thanks MarioBros777 for making his diff and combobursts and helping with the storyboard.
I also used strager's SB tool.
And thanks to all the modders, otherwise this would still be my terrible first map!
Eirene
I don't know if it's normal but, even if circles and sliders are well placed on the timeline, you used the 1/6 divisor.
you should set the first offset at 25 ms and the BPM at 102 or something like that
(because the song doesn't seem to be a 3/4)

In any case, I modded the map with your timing because it won't change anything

Hard :

00:01:79 (6) - a square lower (the same disance of the (1) than (3), (4), (5) and (7) )
00:32:96 (4) - move a square lower this circle too and other objects following to keep alignments
00:40:61 (6) - stop moving down objects at this point.
01:14:43 (1) - just a sugestion, i prefer it a square on the left
01:21:49 (4) - a square up
01:21:79 (5) - and so this one a square on the left and up (and maybe the last slider point a square down)
01:22:67 (1,2,3) - an other sugestion, (1) and (3) a square on the left, and then move (2) to have a vertical alignment with 01:22:37 (6)

this is detail, but it makes the map more "beautiful" than now

Normal :

00:19:43 (2) - a square on the left
00:24:73 (2,3) - not a mistake but the spacing looks strange
00:47:96 (4) - a square on th left too

nothing else to add it's amazing :)

Easy :

I have nothing to say about the easy, it's perfect I think
( 01:10:90 (1) - a very hard jump for an easy map xD )

well, that's all
I give you a star, your map is as brilliant as the song :)
Topic Starter
Dusty
Thanks for the mod, Eirene. (i'm not so good at grid counting on level 3...)

I'm pretty sure the song is in triplets so I'll leave it with 1/6 divisor and current timing right now.
statementreply
I suggest that you give up mapping this song. The tempo is drifting all the way, and it would be almost impossible to time it correctly.

More info at http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=faq&n=10&c=1#c1
Jarby
I suggest that you ignore statementreply. Set offset to 365.
Topic Starter
Dusty

JarJarJacob wrote:

I suggest that you ignore statementreply. Set offset to 365.
Thanks a lot for the timing fix.
Kytoxid
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Topic Starter
Dusty
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Armin
[Easy]

00:18:012 Finish
00:26:835 ^
00:42:717 Clap at the end
01:14:482 Finish
01:18:012 ^
01:21:541 ^
01:23:306 Finish at the start

[Normal]

01:03:600 Remove hitcircle?
01:10:953 Finish
01:14:482 (5,8) ^
01:18:012 ^
01:25:070 ^

[Hard]

00:23:306 Remove this break
00:40:070 (4,6) Claps?
00:53:306 New combo
01:00:365 ^
01:15:659 Clap
01:21:541 (4,6) Whistles

Nice song. Starred, unless I think the timing is a little wrong (but I can't find any better value, sorry T_T)
Topic Starter
Dusty
Thanks, Armin.
Lizbeth
hard
00:14:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - may you could use some sliders or triples here, is kind of monotonous

Normail
00:33:089 (1) - too far away

Easy
00:16:024 (1,2,3) - this sounds weird, move it, 2/6 later... im not sure


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Topic Starter
Dusty
Thanks for the mod.

Lizbeth wrote:

Easy
00:16:024 (1,2,3) - this sounds weird, move it, 2/6 later... im not sure
I wasn't sure what to do about that so I turned it into a couple of sliders.
Diasios
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

All seems ok.

[Easy]

zzz...zzz...

[Normal]

Slider Velocity: 1,30

[Hard]

It's ok

Starred~
Zekira
68 BPM... challenging offset ._.

Offset: 352 (-13 from current)

...but hearing it from all the offsets I get, it's confusing. I agree with it being 68 BPM, it's just that... the offsets are dynamic at some points. For now this is the best I can get.
Andrea
[Overall]

BPM: 68,00 - Offset: 290 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

Normal sections seems too loud. Lower volume.

[Easy]

Slider tick 3 sounds weird. Use 2 or 4.

Seems fine~

[Normal]

01:14:042 (5) - New combo.
01:17:095 (1) - I never suggest hitsounds, but here place a hitfinish.

[Hard]

00:33:081 (7) - New combo.
Teara
A very relaxing song~ Thanks for mapping it. ~ Star

[Easy]

Just because its a easy, don't devoid it of hit circles/sliders, map more parts please.

Click for picture >.> yes yes, I got lazy.


Also, Slider Tick Rate should be 2. 3 sounds off...

[Normal]

00:42:027 (3) - Extend this to the white tick, and fix spinner afterwords.
01:03:089 (2) - Place under (1) & (3) so it doesn't touch the slider.
01:07:042 (8) - one right, one up ( turn off grid snap )
01:15:036 (3) - isn't snapped. ( snap the rest then )
01:27:071 (1,2,3,4) - Place all in center. I thinks plays nicer.

[Hard]

Nice, I like this. Its pretty enough ^:)
Leorda
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Tanmak
Hello~

[Easy]
00:42:704 (5) New combo?

[Normal]
All note unsnapped! Resnap Please.

[Hard]
This difficulty is too! Resnap Please. :o
00:12:999 Remove Break.

Great song~! I like it~ Especially good hitsound.
Starred. :)
Shulin
General:

Tags?

Timing:

In general, I'm not confident about the offset the offsets I'm getting vary too much, I see Zekira has posted one so I'd keep that for now :D

Easy:

Remove audio lead in time for this difficulty.

Well it's an easy, and there isn't much wrong with it.

00:30:035 (3) - Maybe move this directly beneath 2.
00:37:041 (3) - Directly above 2.
00:47:099 (3) - I'd move this horizontally so its on the same level as 1 and 2 is a square below.
01:03:088 (1,2,3) - Here it isn't evident exactly what beat you are following, I'd remap this bit.
01:09:017 (4) - Spacing? New combo.
01:12:070 (2) - New combo.
01:16:023 (1) - Spacing - too close to 4.

Normal:

Remove audio lead in.

01:03:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No this part doesn't work, it doesn't play nicely either. Options -

1 - Delete and ignore this whole section by extending the break (and mapping earlier)
2 - I love this part! (Keep it)
3 - Try this (ignore the numbers this is where I had the beats):

SPOILER
01:03:088 (1) - Beat
01:04:017 (2) - Slider till 3 01:05:035 (3) -
01:05:049 (4) - Beat
01:05:064 (5) - Beat
01:05:094 (6) - Beat
01:06:052 (7) - Beat

01:07:026 (8) - Beat
01:07:055 (9) - Beat

4 - Edit what you have, then I'd suggest:

01:03:058 (1) - Delete
01:06:023 (6) - Delete
01:05:094 (5) - Make a slider till 01:06:528

Other than that seems fine.

Hard:

-- Why do the sliders have different sound effects just for this difficulty?
-- I'm not hitsound modding but I'd check for consistency between difficulties one example at 01:10:940 the hitsounds seem much louder than the other difficulties. Also this difficulty seems to have different cymbals etc.
-- You ignore the part I had issue with in the other difficulties (01:03:058)

00:00:005 (1) - I generally don't like beats before the timing section.
00:12:999 Remove break.
00:43:881 ^
01:02:041 - Start the spinner here and end it at 01:04:028

Good job with the map, I'm uncertain about the timing but I couldnt find a better alternative for now. Nice hitsound use as always, good map :D

~~ Starred
kino77
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