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Jumps at Easier Difficulties.. Yay or Nay?

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Deal or no Deal?

Yay!
41
60.29%
Nay!
18
26.47%
What is a jump?
9
13.24%
Total votes: 68
James
osu! Hall of Famer
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Joined January 2008
Topic Starter
James
Topic. I think this was posted before.
But now I just want to ask people for this, maybe some changed their mind already..

Easier difficulties... Easy and Normal

Jumps... Either 1 beat or a half-beat one.

Discuss.
Kytoxid
osu! Alumni
1,369 posts
Joined April 2009
Kytoxid
If they're not too big, it's not a big deal. Introduces players to the idea that musical sense should still be taken over strict spacing. Just don't make them do jumps at the Hard/Insane level, and not like, a jump every note.
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
I don't think strict spacing is as big of an issue for newbies as some people think it is. I remember playing maps when I first started that I didn't even realize had inconsistent spacing until I look back on them now. So long as the jumps aren't TOO difficult and they make sense with the music, I don't see any problem with it.
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
A jump ok, but a JUMP no!
And I see a jump more like a JUMP so I voted nay o.o
Nachy
807 posts
Joined April 2009
Nachy
Giving a bit more excitement and challenge for easier difficulties seems like a good thing in my humble opinion, nothing too drastic like rapid jumps or super 2x jumps etc. mild jumps or one big jump before a break or ending of a song seems fine and stuff. The crazy intense jumps should still stay in the hard or insane difficulties. Just gotta love jumps.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
Not too much though
Doomsday
osu! Alumni
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Joined July 2008
Doomsday
I guess that people who play Easies don't usually read the spacing, (being beginners and all most likely) but I still think that Easies should have consistent spacing thoughout. To me, Easies are for osu! beginners, So I don't try to add difficulty. I'm more lenient about jumps in Normal difficulties though, so long as they are not major.
aRiskOfRain
osu! Alumni
1,367 posts
Joined June 2009
aRiskOfRain
Shouldn't this be in mapping techniques?

Anyway, for the reasons of symmetry or pattern, I don't mind so much.
Lesjuh
Elite Mapper
2,442 posts
Joined October 2008
Lesjuh
1/1 jumps, Yay. 1/2 jumps, Nay
bmin11
5,438 posts
Joined October 2008
bmin11
I tested on my friends (which are noobs) and I told them about the spacing, but they don't seems to care at all :?
Spacing could not be a major issue for Easy/Normal I guess
James
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Topic Starter
James
I voted for #3!


Back to topic.
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Almost everything in a map depends on the circumstances and how it fits. Judge it on a per-map basis and not on overall.
nomedeusuarionaodisp
161 posts
Joined September 2008
nomedeusuarionaodisp
Yaym but only if it's well-thought, if it fits the song and if it fits that part of the song. In other words,

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Almost everything in a map depends on the circumstances and how it fits. Judge it on a per-map basis and not on overall.
anonymous_old
0 posts
Here since the beginning
anonymous_old

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Almost everything in a map depends on the circumstances and how it fits. Judge it on a per-map basis and not on overall.
^

I love jumps, but I hate poorly placed jumps regardless of ANYTHING.

If it works, good. If not, bad. Black/white for me.
FurukawaPan
649 posts
Joined August 2008
FurukawaPan
I would say, if it was an [Easy] jump, then yay! But different people find different things easy, so who knows.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Lybydose
Jumps? What are those?

...

Probably should stick to 1 beat (or higher) for normal jumps. I always found the biggest problem at normal/easy was clicking too early because of horrible anti-jump spacing and low overall difficulty.

The problem with a lot of easy/normal difficulties is that they are often UNDERmapped, so the player is tempted to click everything early (because he knows the song well enough that he thinks there SHOULD be a circle at some spot to sync to the vocals or whatever, BUT THERE ISN'T). Small jumps are sometimes more intuitive because the player doesn't click everything early.
CheeseWarlock
osu! Alumni
1,185 posts
Joined May 2008
CheeseWarlock
Jumps are fine in an Easy map as long as they're not "making the map harder" jumps that you kids are doing in harder maps these days. New players can understand musical sense.
ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc
Depends on if the make senses with the song and the map. So yay for jumps in easier difficulties.
Mogsy
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Mogsy

CheeseWarlock wrote:

Jumps are fine in an Easy map as long as they're not "making the map harder" jumps that you kids are doing in harder maps these days. New players can understand musical sense.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
anonymous_old
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anonymous_old

Lybydose wrote:

The problem with a lot of easy/normal difficulties is that they are often UNDERmapped, so the player is tempted to click everything early (because he knows the song well enough that he thinks there SHOULD be a circle at some spot to sync to the vocals or whatever, BUT THERE ISN'T). Small jumps are sometimes more intuitive because the player doesn't click everything early.
That's why people should start with [Insane] difficulties. =]
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