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Topic Starter
Colin Hou
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年5月6日 at 23:04:04

Artist: supercell
Title: Sayonara Memories
Tags: Nagi
BPM: 160
Filesize: 15078kb
Play Time: 02:11
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.38 stars, 176 notes)
  2. Marathon (4.9 stars, 784 notes)
  3. Normal (3.23 stars, 124 notes)
Download: supercell - Sayonara Memories
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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well, my 1st beatmap!

this song is the 2nd single of supercell ^_^ (1st is Kimi no ShiranaiMonogatari - theme song of bakemonogatari)

I have to admit that Nagi(vocal of this song) almost beat me down... lol

thx for your playing and all your advising!

PS:this mp3 is flac converted 320Kbps version REDOWNLOAD before 4/21 (cuz of the offset)

[Marathon(Full Ver.)] is an approval diff.

MOD NOW BEGIN !

:arrow: Updates:

#10/3/7:
  1. thx to ykcarrot and many mistakes are fixed.
  2. removed the "source" cause this is a JPop song. fixed the tags
#10/3/8:
  1. thx to Gens and removed unnecessary files. offset and other mistakes fixed.
  2. tried to add hitsounds in [Normal] :3 full submitted, redownload may be necessary.
  3. thx to Breeze ,many mistakes are found and fixed. costom override is added and redownload,please.
  4. thx to ignorethis and Garven, now this BPM might be correct *_* and ignore the hitsounds at present, i'm still working on that.
#10/3/9:
  1. hitsounds are added in all diffs, much better than...yesterday? :o no it's even worse!
  2. refixed the hitsounds in [Hard]. SB bug fixed.(flyingcover.png)
#10/3/10:
  1. with Astom's help, Kiai time and one note fixed.
  2. waiting for a pro-timing help...
  3. hitsounds fixed.(completely? not for sure.)
#10/3/11:
  1. thx to orioncomet, some hitsounds/new combo fixed.
  2. time fixed.all notes snapped now.
  3. thx to YGOkid8, spacing fixed.
#10/3/13
  1. spacing and new combo fixed. note replaced in [Hard]
  2. well, I changed the title of the map. QUITE SORRY for this and REDOWNLOAD please.
  3. thx for the irc mod of freefish
#10/3/14
  1. a lot of things to be fixed. tonight will be done.
  2. 0 errors in AIMod now.
  3. have to admit that spacing and timing are the most important matters in mapping...
  4. unnecessary file removed and REDOWNLOAD if you need.
#10/3/16
  1. really thanks xxheroxx, more spacing work will be done from 14:30--??:?? today.
  2. well,checking the BPM of the intro is too difficult for a new mapper.now notes there are all removed.
  3. tag fixed.
  4. spacing issues will be handled soon today.
  5. this song might be too hard for a new mapper to finish ? ;_;
  6. most of the notes are fixed.
  7. new file added in(storyboard & skip button), redownload if possible.
#10/3/18
  1. small fixs done in all diffs.
  2. tiny fixs done in [Normal]and[Marathon]
#10/3/20
  1. guest diff by FuukoLover added, enjoy it :)
  2. lean-in time removed, "loading.png"removed, Combo Color and diff names fixed! REDOWNLOAD, please.
#10/3/22
  1. small mod by Real1
  2. Fuuko's diff updated.
#10/3/23
  1. 3rd Mod by Gens, a really cool man :)
#10/3/24
  1. SB updated (change background from png to jpg for smaller size. and creator.png newly done). REDOWNLOAD is necessary.
  2. don't ask me why background.jpg and shack.jpg are the same. I met trouble in using one image as background and also SB images.
  3. renote part of [Normal] to make it "funny"
  4. Fuuko's diff removed as his request. ;_;
#10/3/27
  1. SB sound added.
  2. Note placing fixed in [Hard]
#10/4/3
  1. updated blissfulyoshi's mod.
#10/4/5
  1. NoHItter's mod updated.
#10/4/15
  1. self-modded.
#10/4/17
  1. fixed the probelms in [Marathon] by Mafiamaster and 100pa- (this man is really pro in timing)
#10/4/22
  1. the left timing issues done.
  2. NEW mp3 now! (I got the flac edition just in Feb 12th and forgot to convert it orz.)
    [#]stacks fixed and a little place fixed.
#10/5/6
  1. unsnapped note fixed
freefish
无意中看到的,回头帮你看/找人帮你看。歌很好听。
LKs
两分钟的图叫Marathon不太好吧。。
+star
Topic Starter
Colin Hou

LKs wrote:

两分钟的图叫Marathon不太好吧。。
+star
还没有做完啊...做完了有6分钟 :D 按照标准5分钟是极限 可是这首歌要剪掉点下不了手啊 :(
eustia
最近在听的歌啊

LZ是第一次做图呢,加油~
star!

(fish哥看好你呢)
digiaria
我本来是想吐槽,不过还是算了
星星拿去 = =
Sure
[General]
I couldn't find any custom hitsound in song folder. So custom override is useless.


[Marathon]
As you know, this diff can be just approved.
I'm sorry. I won't mod for approved map.


[Normal]
Change its name to Hard.
00:00:613 ~ 00:17:019 - set audio volume 30 in this section
00:07:456 (4) - new combo
00:17:488 (1) - yes, no sound is good.
00:22:738 (1) - start at 00:22:925 and one more return with Finish sound.(audio volume 40?)
00:36:587 (4) - spacing
00:39:587 (4) - ^
00:49:712 (5) - ^
01:29:087 (4) - new combo
01:33:024 (3) - spacing


[Easy]
This diff is not easy. Change its name to Normal.
00:35:462 - delete this green line.
00:57:962 (2,3,4) - spacing. no good at Easy diff.
01:20:462 (2) - make this slider's end to 01:21:212
01:27:024 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:462 (6) - new combo
02:08:040 (1,2,1,2) - spacing


Please don't give kudosu to anyone. Give it to who helped you. (Mod post)
Topic Starter
Colin Hou

ykcarrot wrote:

[General]
I couldn't find any custom hitsound in song folder. So custom override is useless.

Custom override is cancelled now.

[Marathon]
As you know, this diff can be just approved.
I'm sorry. I won't mod for approved map.


Should I cut the length of this diff...? I'm not sure this diff will be approved or this map.

got the answer. thx for modding N and H :)

[Normal]
Change its name to Hard. done
00:00:613 ~ 00:17:019 - set audio volume 30 in this section done
00:07:456 (4) - new combo done
00:17:488 (1) - yes, no sound is good. XD
00:22:738 (1) - start at 00:22:925 and one more return with Finish sound.(audio volume 40?) done,but the sound is not very clear, so the volume is now 60.
00:36:587 (4) - spacing
00:39:587 (4) - ^
00:49:712 (5) - ^
01:29:087 (4) - new combo
01:33:024 (3) - spacing
four done.


[Easy]
This diff is not easy. Change its name to Normal. done
00:35:462 - delete this green line. I changed the BPM to 0.5 with this line.
00:57:962 (2,3,4) - spacing. no good at Easy diff. now it's Normal
01:20:462 (2) - make this slider's end to 01:21:212
01:27:024 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:462 (6) - new combo
02:08:040 (1,2,1,2) - spacing
for done

Please don't give kudosu to anyone. Give it to who helped you. (Mod post) got it :D
thx again!~
Thunderstorm
cant find something wrong ><"
If you want Midget to recheck your map, reask in queue
Good luck, starred
Gens
[General]
  1. "Lyrics.txt" isn't used, please delete it and full submit.
[Skin]
  1. Comboburst's width must not be higher than 500px. Please resize or crop it.
[Storyboard]
  1. These files seem to be duplicates:
    1. Lyrics/op_21.png - Lyrics/op_22.png
    2. Lyrics/op_13.png - Lyrics/op24.png
    If they are truly the same, please delete them and use a single image instead.
[All Difficulties]
  1. Every difficulty must use the same offset.
  2. Preview point must be the same for all difficulties.
[Normal (Short Ver.)]
  1. I think this needs more hitsounds... other than that, it's fine.
00:35:462 - Instead of placing this green line here, move it to 00:48:212. If you leave it like this, it can cause bugs. Do the same to the other difficulties.
01:35:274 - Useless timing section...
01:47:462 - Useless timing section... set the previous section at 0.5x instead.
02:07:993 - Useless timing section...
02:08:087 (1) - Move this to the next white tick.

[Marathon (Full Ver.)]
  1. Oh my god, six minutes...with that length this definitely won't get ranked. Maybe this can be a mixed set of ranked and approved difficulties, like bad apple. orz, I just saw you're aware of it
~ ~ ~

Well, it's not like I'm being lazy, but I'm running out of time at the moment. Please do these changes first so I can keep modding it. Call me back when you're finished. :)

EDIT: I accidentally starred it... oh well, it doesn't matter.
Topic Starter
Colin Hou

Gens wrote:

[General]
  1. "Lyrics.txt" isn't used, please delete it and full submit.
 deleted days ago, but never full submitted :o

[Skin]
  1. Comboburst's width must not be higher than 500px. Please resize or crop it.
 resized.

[Storyboard]
  1. These files seem to be duplicates:
    1. Lyrics/op_21.png - Lyrics/op_22.png
    2. Lyrics/op_13.png - Lyrics/op24.png
    If they are truly the same, please delete them and use a single image instead.
i used to try this ,but failed. this tiime I made it...lol

[All Difficulties]
  1. Every difficulty must use the same offset.
  2. Preview point must be the same for all difficulties.
 done.

[Normal (Short Ver.)]
  1. I think this needs more hitsounds... other than that, it's fine.
 i can hardly handle it... now i've tried my best.

00:35:462 - Instead of placing this green line here, move it to 00:48:212. If you leave it like this, it can cause bugs. Do the same to the other difficulties.
01:35:274 - Useless timing section...
01:47:462 - Useless timing section... set the previous section at 0.5x instead.
02:07:993 - Useless timing section...
02:08:087 (1) - Move this to the next white tick.

 done.

[Marathon (Full Ver.)]
  1. Oh my god, six minutes...with that length this definitely won't get ranked. Maybe this can be a mixed set of ranked and approved difficulties, like bad apple. orz, I just saw you're aware of it
 i love this song so much :) cutting its length is too hard for me. really hope this can be a approved diff.

~ ~ ~

Well, it's not like I'm being lazy, but I'm running out of time at the moment. Please do these changes first so I can keep modding it. Call me back when you're finished. :)

EDIT: I accidentally starred it... oh well, it doesn't matter.

 I'm doing my best :)
thx~ again!
Breeze
只有红色部分是我觉得你应该改的,其他的都只是建议

[General]
  1. Hard的Preview time跟其他两个难度不一样,请保证他们是一致的(现在hard是101462而另两个难度是101368
    )
  2. Source不知道么?专辑名或者其他什么的来源,如果知道的话可以加到source里
[Normal]
  1. 01:35:462 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Normal里不建议使用非常规的spacing
[Hard]
  1. 有很多unsnapped note, resnap all notes
  2. 开始部分0.5xBPM改了timing后忘设定了吧?
  3. 00:35:462 (T) - 这里用0.5xBPM就好了,不必用新的红线
  4. 00:47:462 (T) - 这里改回1xBPM即可
  5. 01:14:462 (S) - 这里finish都行,别用clap
  6. 01:35:462 - 01:38:087 - 这一串别用clap,不好听
[Marathon]
  1. 第一条红线后所有的红线都应该用绿线代替的
  2. 00:11:086 (1,1) - 这两个应该1/6 beat snap divisor来snap
  3. 00:15:211 (2) - 后移1/4拍
  4. 02:57:966 (3) - spacing太远了,要jump的话最好new combo表明spacing改变
  5. 03:05:466 (3) - ^
  6. 03:08:466 (3) - ^
  7. 03:19:716 (4) - 被挡住的slider,这个不好
  8. 03:23:466 - 03:27:216 - 这一串摆法不错,但是每个(4)和另一个(1)之间感觉太远了 :/
第一次作图能做到这样相当不错了
hitsound还有待加强
这里给你提供个custom softclap
可以试试
另外我试着帮你在hard里前面部分加了一些音效,可以参考下

Download: soft-hitclap.rar

Download: supercell - Farewell Memories (Colin Hou) [Hard (Short Ver.)].osu
Topic Starter
Colin Hou

Breeze wrote:

只有红色部分是我觉得你应该改的,其他的都只是建议

[General]
  1. Hard的Preview time跟其他两个难度不一样,请保证他们是一致的(现在hard是101462而另两个难度是101368
    )
这个很奇怪...大概是红线导致的吧 在.osu里改掉了.

  1. Source不知道么?专辑名或者其他什么的来源,如果知道的话可以加到source里
Pending Maps版的置顶说是专辑名不算来源, 这首歌是一张单曲专辑, 目前还没有出现在其他地方.

[Normal]
  1. 01:35:462 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Normal里不建议使用非常规的spacing
改掉了.

[Hard]
  1. 有很多unsnapped note, resnap all notes
  2. 开始部分0.5xBPM改了timing后忘设定了吧?
  3. 00:35:462 (T) - 这里用0.5xBPM就好了,不必用新的红线
  4. 00:47:462 (T) - 这里改回1xBPM即可
这些都是刚开始摸索EDIT怎么用时加的...成历史遗留问题了 :?

  1. 01:14:462 (S) - 这里finish都行,别用clap
  2. 01:35:462 - 01:38:087 - 这一串别用clap,不好听
改掉了.

[Marathon]
  1. 第一条红线后所有的红线都应该用绿线代替的
  2. 00:11:086 (1,1) - 这两个应该1/6 beat snap divisor来snap
  3. 00:15:211 (2) - 后移1/4拍
  4. 02:57:966 (3) - spacing太远了,要jump的话最好new combo表明spacing改变
  5. 03:05:466 (3) - ^
  6. 03:08:466 (3) - ^
  7. 03:19:716 (4) - 被挡住的slider,这个不好
改掉了.

  1. 03:23:466 - 03:27:216 - 这一串摆法不错,但是每个(4)和另一个(1)之间感觉太远了 :/
这里是把曲度又改大了点 这样距离就少了大概1/3~1/4.

第一次作图能做到这样相当不错了
hitsound还有待加强
这里给你提供个custom softclap
可以试试
另外我试着帮你在hard里前面部分加了一些音效,可以参考下

很好用 :)
多谢指导 :D 受益很多
ignorethis
Offset is early by ~3-5 ms? not sure, but the metronome clicks sound off in the beginning part, so I guess you should remove the notes there.

btw a length of 6 mins is not rankable, be sure to ask BATs to seperate it from your mapset when ranking.


<Marathon>
add some more hitsounds to this map
01:54:023 (2,1) - wth is this
05:11:466 (9) - this one is lol, remove the 2x BPM
06:02:653 (1) - remove

Others are ok, although there are some spacing problems (and some of which are very misleading) but I don't feel like nazing others' maps.

star'd, call back for recheck and pubble.
Breeze

ignorethis wrote:

Offset is early by ~3-5 ms? not sure, but the metronome clicks sound off in the beginning part, so I guess you should remove the notes there..
I agree with this, I got a offset 591, but I'm not sure
so maybe this time it's surely late : P

对了关于hitsound, 对准鼓声放我给你的那个clap就行
一般规律是每两条白线加一个,听着听着加下去,音乐里有finish的时候你也加finish,那样加下来会好很多
不用再给我kds
Garven
[Normal]
01:04:337 It looks like you were going for bends right when the singer changes notes, but it feels like it's curving a little early. Maybe manipulate when the bends hit so it matches up with the beat. I messed with it and moving each bend out one more grid (at 3 zoom) felt better.
01:53:462 Maybe it's more of a style thing to me, but perhaps switch these four sliders with the pattern at 01:59:462. With the way the song goes, it just fits a lot better.

[Hard]
The beginning is just mistimed. The ritardando (slowing of the tempo) makes this really hard, as you're going to have to have several re-timing spots.

Keep in mind a lot of this is pretty rough timing. You may want to go in and fine tune them if you can.

The beginning, I have an offset of 661, BPM 160.
00:08:204 BPM 157.00
00:09:841 BPM 150.00
00:11:077 BPM 110.00
00:11:647 BPM 95.25
00:14:166 BPM 160.00
00:15:291 BPM 140.00
00:17:461 BPM 160.00

This might throw a bunch of your beats off at the beginning section as well.

00:58:337 [3, 4] The spacing here is really deceptive. I'm not sure if that's what you were going for, but it didn't feel natural at all.

The spacing goes all over too with the BPM x.05 and x2's. Try to keep it more standardized with occasional jumps with the music.

[Marathon]
I just spent a bunch of time getting that timing done... I'll take a peek later on if I remember. :P

Nice storyboarding, btw. Looks really smooth.
Star~
Topic Starter
Colin Hou

ignorethis wrote:

Offset is early by ~3-5 ms? not sure, but the metronome clicks sound off in the beginning part, so I guess you should remove the notes there.

btw a length of 6 mins is not rankable, be sure to ask BATs to seperate it from your mapset when ranking.


[00:14:278-00:22:715] these notes were deleted. left a back-slider at 00:22:903 to make the break not too long.

<Marathon>
add some more hitsounds to this map
01:54:023 (2,1) - wth is this
05:11:466 (9) - this one is lol, remove the 2x BPM
06:02:653 (1) - remove

done. now the length is less than 6 minutes :3

Others are ok, although there are some spacing problems (and some of which are very misleading) but I don't feel like nazing others' maps.

star'd, call back for recheck and pubble.

thx~

Garven wrote:

[Normal]
01:04:337 It looks like you were going for bends right when the singer changes notes, but it feels like it's curving a little early. Maybe manipulate when the bends hit so it matches up with the beat. I messed with it and moving each bend out one more grid (at 3 zoom) felt better.

done. can't believe u found this...

01:53:462 Maybe it's more of a style thing to me, but perhaps switch these four sliders with the pattern at 01:59:462. With the way the song goes, it just fits a lot better.

reeditted the hitsounds and it may feel better [01:52:341(1)] is replaces with a slider.

[Hard]
The beginning is just mistimed. The ritardando (slowing of the tempo) makes this really hard, as you're going to have to have several re-timing spots.

Keep in mind a lot of this is pretty rough timing. You may want to go in and fine tune them if you can.

The beginning, I have an offset of 661, BPM 160.
00:08:204 BPM 157.00
00:09:841 BPM 150.00
00:11:077 BPM 110.00
00:11:647 BPM 95.25
00:14:166 BPM 160.00
00:15:291 BPM 140.00
00:17:461 BPM 160.00

This might throw a bunch of your beats off at the beginning section as well.

BPM & notes at beginning are fixed. the offset was wrong before fixing.

00:58:337 [3, 4] The spacing here is really deceptive. I'm not sure if that's what you were going for, but it didn't feel natural at all.

ye, done.

The spacing goes all over too with the BPM x.05 and x2's. Try to keep it more standardized with occasional jumps with the music.

trying to make it feel better :P

[Marathon]
I just spent a bunch of time getting that timing done... I'll take a peek later on if I remember. :P

i'm quite moved cause u put so much time on my map~

Nice storyboarding, btw. Looks really smooth.
Star~

SB costs me over 10 hours XD thx for your help
Astom
[general]
-use same kiai time in hard and normal

[Normal]
-100% Acc =) I don' t see problems

[Hard]
-97% Acc
-00:46:716 maybe u can finish this spinner in 00:47:466 or move this 00:47:091 (1) to 00:47:466
-01:15:403 clean this break?

[Marathon]
-I only play this in edit mode (too long) and check hardest part and i don't see problems

Nice song >;3 star
Topic Starter
Colin Hou

Astom wrote:

[general]
-use same kiai time in hard and normal

done.

[Normal]
-100% Acc =) I don' t see problems

[Hard]
-97% Acc
-00:46:716 maybe u can finish this spinner in 00:47:466 or move this 00:47:091 (1) to 00:47:466
-01:15:403 clean this break?

done.

[Marathon]
-I only play this in edit mode (too long) and check hardest part and i don't see problems

Nice song >;3 star

thx~
Lizbeth
I recommend you to look for pro timing help.. At the beginning of the song you need several offset, cuz BPM is slowing down, like Garven said. I try to find it, but i don't know much of multiple timing sections >.<

you can find some help here, just post the link to your map
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