appleeaterx wrote:

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Hello, pishifat! pm request got rid of your light blue becuase it screwed with the reply lol

:idea: General

* Dat timing. mmmm
* 1.15MB background image? I think you can decrease the size ringatingdid
* Why not add KIAI close after the middle of the song, the instruments are really wild and fast there.
* I see that you don't have any tags, try finding some here (also check the title with a BAT)
Wikipedia page of the song
Wikipedia page of the album
Wikipedia page of the album "Cult"
I think you can add tags like: "Edvard Grieg" and maybe "Cult" moved this to pending last night and forgot kiai/tags lol. (as well as some unsnapped objects). so yea added kiai and tags

:arrow: Testplay

* Easy (+DT,HR) - Score ~ Replay
* Normal (+DT) - Score ~ Replay
* Hard - Score ~ Replay
* Insane - Score ~ Replay
* Extra (+NF) - Score ~ Replay didnt even need no fail :/

Easy

* 00:07:189 (1,2) - I really don't understand why you used this rhythm in the beginning. The beginning is quite calm and the rest of the rhythm here should be easy to follow. I highly recommend to change the first slider. (1) is snapped one millisecond before the SV change ooooooops
* 01:20:633 (1) - The flow broke here a little. I'd put this slider a little bit up and closer to the slider end of (2) - you'll have to redo the pattern after this to make it DS'ed, I'm afraid. i see what you mean. i adjusted it by changing some directional stuff with 01:19:403 (2) - though so i wouldn't have to re-do the whole pattern

Normal

* Can't really find anything major, but look at the other diffs for hitsound/NC suggestions.

Hard

* 00:19:172 (1) - You had a nice circular flow going on, and I highly recommend to place it somewhere else to keep the flow. that was intentional actually, considering i've got a very similar flow-breaker in insane/extra at this point. since it's a new combo breaking from the previous combo's flow isn't too uncommon

* 00:39:412 (3,4,1) - You could sort of blanket these, I guess. did so for (1), but doing it for (3) would break the intended movement so that one's staying

* 00:45:582 (4) - (all diffs) I'd add a whistle here, fits with the strong guitar imo. There are more parts in the song where you could apply it, like at 00:49:053 (4) - doing that would cause there to not be any distinction between beats 2 and 4 of this section, since i also have whistles there. whistles are much more representative of high pitch noises in the music, which i've attached to the high pitched cello notes. doing so for teh guitar wouldn't fit quite so well, and may also lead to some obnoxious overhitsounding
* 01:19:403 (1) - Flow here would be better if you pointed the slider end down and the red slider point more to the right, but it's not a big issue. i agree that flow could be improved there. did so, but not in the same way you suggested

Insane

* 00:33:666 (1,1,1) - These NC's are only present in the Insane diff. Not really a big error, but I'd atleast try to make the NC's consistent with the Extra diff. NC was originally there to mark the SV change but now that's gone so NC can go too
* 00:40:325 (1,2,3) - This placement seems random. I'd move (3) further away for DS. moved 2 closer to 1 instead. same idea i guess
* 00:48:417 (3,4,5,6,1) - Would look nicer if you used symmetry here with a kind of blanket at (3) and (1). symmetry looks so gross tho :/ i decided to make it look even less symmetrical and i like it more now lol

* 00:59:997 (6,2) - Blanket could be slightly improved here by moving (2)'s slider points a bit. don't really like the super-huggy-blankets all that much so i'd rather keep this like it is. a lot of maps use this and it seems more appropriate than a super bendy blanket imo
* 01:02:585 (5) - CTRL+G this? There's enough time to go to the next slider, so it's fine now as well. why didnt i do this before i dont know
* 01:27:795 (2) - Really depends on what you are following at 01:24:972 (1,2) - , but maybe turn this repeat slider into a single hitcircle to repeat the rhythm? if it were the same rhythm in the song i'd do that, but 01:25:276 (2) - distinctly cuts off while 01:27:744 (2) - continues into the next phrase
* 01:52:018 (3) - No red point as you usually do with sliders like this? uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dunno what i was thinking

Extra

* 00:37:143 (2) - (H/I/EX) Shouldn't the NC be here. don't think so. it's probably hard to tell because of all the timing points and weird rhythm prior to this, but 00:36:667 (1) - is the downbeat so NC-ing (2) would be weird
* 00:56:525 (5) - (N/H/I/EX) NC this? The timing changes by 14BPM here, and the slider is a little faster than usual. considering i've mapped this as a 1 beat slider in every difficulty (i think), the slight difference in bpm shouldn't actually affect any gameplay aspects
* 01:15:692 (1,3) - Personal preference, but I wouldn't do this here. The AR is 9.3 which is a bit too much for me to read this. But of course I'm no pro or anything ^^ pretty sure that lowering the approach rate would make this harder to read lol. it shouldn't really be a problem though because follow-points are pretty clear about where the next object is, as well as (3)'s offset beneath (1).
* 01:13:231 (1) - (all diffs) Starting from this combo, there's a string/violin-instrument you're following on every new combo. Changing the volume every combo to make it sound like the instrument would go fine here. Something like the volume in/decrease at 01:19:403 (1) - and 01:20:633 (1) - i've got that sort of idea already starting at 01:19:403 (1) - when the music has a gradual but noticeable volume increase. the thing you mentioned doesn't really seem to be as dynamic as that, so i think it might be better to just stick with emphasizing the most dynamic volume change
* 01:25:276 (5) - Adding a kickslider here might not be a bad idea. as i mentioned on the hard (i think), there's a noticeable pause at 01:25:276 (5) - so filling a gap of emptiness with a kickslider would mean not followign the music :/
* 02:16:368 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - (all diffs) Consider adding whistles here. there are whistles tho o.o the stuff with soft additions wouldn't work with the same whistles as the ones with the drum sampleset tho

Not really much to mod here. I can't really play it very well, due the lack of skills - but it's fun!

Sorry for the short mod, no kd if it didn't help. of course it did
Couldn't really find any big problem in this map, good mapping and timing skills here o3o/

Have a star and good luck <3

kakifly wrote:

time 2 mod // i remember this song in elementary school

thx apocalyptia for not using metronomes nice people

Easy

1. 00:27:278 (1,2,3) - idk maybe try 1/1 slider here with slider tick rate 2... for me (unless my headphones r dying becuz they kinda are) the sound of 00:27:782 (2) - is a little lower than 1 & 3.. getting 300 on circles that change bpm is hard..... i see what you mean and agree. decided to just cheat the timing there instead and use 1/2 reverse slider stuff. nobody should care about like 2 milliseconds
2. i feel like 00:36:180 - and or 00:36:423 - should be mapped?? i'll see what others think about this. i know it's kind of awkward, but i mean the song is awkward because it's just weird. so thinking about it
3. 01:16:929 (2,3) - maybe just have a slider here.. nothing much to be emphasized in music with circles hmm now that i think about it that would make 01:21:864 (2,3) - stand out more so yes
   nice diff

Normal

1. 00:13:161 (4,5,6) - ctrl+ j these? will look more symmetrical with 1,2,3 i'd want to have 4,5,6 going the opposite direction of 1,2,3 so ctrl g is opposite of intention :/
2. 00:33:666 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - fix NC's here to be consistent.. unless theres a reason u did this.. so many timing points i dont even kno if this is necessary each NC is on the high pitch cello sound, which i did in every diff except hte easy (since doing it on easy would just mean a new combo on each object). it's kind of there to indicate that bpm is super crazy cuz within these parts it moves steadily from like 70bpm to 130bpm and confusing
3. 00:45:820 (3,4) - just one example ; not sure if these are needed; doesnt really follow much in music but keeps a nice beat tho.. it's following the super strong sound on the red tick before each downbeat ;-;
4. 01:03:461 - add note
5. 01:08:653 - ^ i ignored the same beats up until this point so dont see why they should be added now o.o
6. 01:47:461 (4) - add clap only times i've used claps are when tehre's that bass drum noise, like 01:08:180 (1) - otherwise pattern is with finishes
   again nice diff.. DTHDHR testplayed but got bad acc since bpm / offset change rip http://puu.sh/chlBk/5ac9628e3e.jpg S is all that matters

Hard

1. 01:47:461 (1) - maybe add hitsound on tail the head is way more emphasized than the tail so adding a hitsound to unemphasized thing weird
2. wtf perfect map;; though just some distance stuff; testplayed but found some jumps awkward becuz of inconsistent spacing inconsistent spacing is my specialty

Insane

1. 00:17:143 (3,4,5,6) - imo i dont like this circle formation illuminati try a simple curve like.. they're representative of the note pitches tho :c when it goes up, i have the object higher, when it goes down, object lower blahblah. a simple curve would mean not represneting
   SPOILER

   
2. 00:29:283 (4,5,6) - i would like this better if it was pointing downwards rather than to the left did a stuff
3. 01:23:426 (5) - 1/4 doesnt work; should be 1/2 becuz sound comes on 1/2 pretty sure this is repetitive 1/4 throughout the entire section. at least that's how i timed it so
4. 01:24:667 (5) - 01:25:893 (5) - 01:27:135 (5) - ^
5. 01:47:461 (1) - same as hard
6. 02:17:422 (1,2,3,4) - why dont you do what you did with hard.. or stream here? uh oh wow im bad. shouldn't be any 1/4 here yet hard is entirely 1/4 so i changed hard stuff to rhythms from insane.

sorry couldnt find much have my star good luck~ stars mmm

guineaQ wrote:

hai hai from pm request

one hour later: mod complete

[General]
Dem timing points
Turn off widescreen support since you don't have a storyboard. o yes


[Easy]

00:13:161 (2) - Try to make the slider reverse toward the next slider. I think it will help newbies to expect where the next slider will come and FL players hmm yes

SPOILER

00:36:180 - to 00:36:423 - sounds very awkward last mod pointed that out too. only option is a 1/2 gap between 3 and 1. don't know if that's bad but no other options
02:18:476 (1) - I would prefer 2 circles for more emphasis. at 250bpm i think it may be too hard to tap for an easy. this is why i've avoided placing multiple circles 1 beat apart during the kiai

Other than that, really flawless easy. 2kind

[Normal]

01:23:107 (1,2,3) - for simple symmetry and stuff intention was to have direction of reverse slider stuffs changing on each barline. so 3 was barline therefore it faces other direction. it may not have been clear with the first combo, but the second combo at 01:25:581 (1,2,3,4) - shows this a lot more cleanly

SPOILER

There isn't much I can point out ;w;

[Hard]

02:13:202 (1,2) - I'm not 100% sure about this jump to 2 circles. I think it would be more tolerable if it was a jump to a slider :3 yea you right

Other than that....nothing wrong owo

[Insane]

Why not just go to BATs waiting for the magic 12

Consistency at its best.
imho there isn't a better alternative to the rhythms to the ones you used in this insane. woo
I was able to play them just fine so I can't see anything wrong playability wise pfft

[Extra]
pfft I suck too much to pass this

I don't mod difficulties I can't pass sorry ;w; (I tried couple of times)

Gonna shoot a star cus it deserves it. let me kiss you

EDIT: images are broken damn it fixed it

skinnyjimmy wrote:

yoo Jimmy here with the mod!! aye

[Extra]

00:18:646 (6) - Maybe you could make this have a little more space from 5 because of the higher pitch in the string, try moving this to 484, 260 that big of a jump seems like overkill imo, but i did do that kind of flow break thing by moving 6 in that direction

00:50:113 (3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2168095 I think having 3 like this flows a little better tried it out and tbh i prefer what i've got right now :/

00:53:588 (6,7) - move 6 to 420, 256, and 7 to 216, 80 i think this plays better, it should look like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2168101 did something pretty close to that, just more horizontally condensed

hmm this was pretty hard to mod because each note is connected somehow to another note, but thats a good thing! nice map

[Insane]

00:18:646 (6) - Same thing as in the Extra, you could move this farther away, but im not sure if thats good or not did what i did on extra

00:36:667 (1) - Maybe change this slider into 2 circles? would be inconsistent with like everywhere tho so :c

01:41:364 (2,3,4,5) - Keep the same distance snap? would be inconsistent again, but i noticed a different inconsistency with the DS on 3,4 so fixed that lol

02:04:483 (4) - You could move this to 124, 64 not going for circular flow there tho :/

02:13:586 (3,4) - I think moving 3 to 136,272 and 4 to 192,356 is better, to keep the distance snap equal intention there was to not have ds equal. the jump there is placed the same as the extra diff to emphasize that one high pitched note's only appearance in the song

Well that's it for my mod, I haven't modded a long time so i might have missed something, but really cool song, and maps! osu needs more variety! thanks again <4

GL

Sonatora wrote:

mod

[General]
I must commend you because you kept the "Apocalyptic" theme of the map while still retaining the ranking criteria. I'd suggest you fix your spacing first. Then you're good i commend you for using ringating's signature improvement

[Normal]
00:08:157 (2) - Spacing hmmyea they should be further apart. dunno what happened
00:13:161 (4) - nc sticking to teh one measure comboing pattern since i do that in all diffs for the intro :/
01:01:924 (5) - ^
01:22:485 (5) - instead of nc'ing 01:23:107 (1), just nc that instead wat why
01:24:972 (4,5) - would be better if a stack would be harder to read like that. having a stack under a 1/2 slider's end is a nop

[Hard]
Go change to AR8 but pourquoi
00:31:300 (1) - this is on a weird spot please move it um it's an ordinary stack not seeing the problem
00:52:389 (4,1,2,3) - obnoxious pattern. please fix it best explaination right here
01:02:585 (5) - please turn this into a stream 1/6 stream on a hard u funny
01:05:581 (1,2) - turn this into a stack stack yourself
01:52:600 (1,2,3,4) - please rearrange this i did like something between 1,2 i hope it satisfies your desires master
02:12:966 (4) - remove and change this. awful sound jsut like the awful song good ya ok

[Insane]
01:38:982 (3,4,5,1,2) - Did you intentionally create this just to make the pattern harder. I'd say you change it because it's obnoxious um. not seeing why. it's easy af. if anything 01:41:521 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - would be obnoxious and i like obnoxious

overall, the map is great you're great

Pho wrote:

Pho incoming~

Trifle: Just small things you might want to consider. Blanket's are trifle for me as well.
Preference: Just my humble opinion on stuff.
Written in bold: Fix this up as soon as possible.

[General]

1. Those timing sections lol. I am no timing expert by any means, so sorry I can't give reasonable feedback concerning this.

[Easy]

1. 00:23:072 - 00:23:072 - (These also go for hard) 01:02:506 - 01:56:852 - 02:05:678 - 02:09:843 - Not needed timing sections here, delete. Same in Normal did so excluding the one at 2:05, since that's there for kiai stuffs
2. 00:44:015 (1) - Add a red anchor at the slidertick here? I feel it fits in good to point out the violin note. i swear 00:36:667 (1) - had no red anchor before so i wanted to keep it consistent but it does so ummmmmmmmmm
3. 02:14:272 (1,2) - Put the second slider a bit more to the left, since I feel dropoff flow is more pleasing to play than a flowbreak: kidn of had to rearrange things for the following point so yes?
4. 02:16:368 (1) - This one's offscreen at 1680x1050 resolution already, please fix this up fast. shows how much i tested this -.-
5. 02:18:718 - Well, this is more preference, but I'm sure you are fine with a usual finish HS already, it looks like spam here. The same goes for every diff. the song is spammy so i spammy kay
6. No serious concerns here, really. Everything looks neat.

[Normal]

1. 00:23:072 - 00:23:072 - Not needed timing sections here, delete
2. 01:04:910 (4,1) - Trifle: Make these parallel supposed to be followign the not parallel things happening with 01:03:625 (2,3,4) - actually
3. Fine!

[Hard]

1. 00:44:015 (1,2,3) - Please keep DS consistent here. with teh way 1's slider end won't be strictly followed, having this semi ds break thing shouldn't be a problem. it plays more naturally than what the numbers may indicate :p
2. 00:45:582 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - DS is a little bit messy here, you should stick with the 1.00xDS between the pairs here just like at this time i just screwd up uhh
3. 01:02:585 (5) - Should this one end on 01:02:856 - first? The flute sound clearly goes to this. aint no flute
4. 01:40:896 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent DS between these notes here, you should keep the 1.1-1.0-1.0xDS rule between the pairs just like you did at 01:38:330 (1,2,3) - same deal as that other one
5. 02:16:895 (3) - and 02:17:949 (3) - , Ctrl+g'ing those would make for a more interesting flow and would fit better to the 'desastrous' end of the music. tried it out and i really prefer the way it is already. i don't really have any more reasoning than that im a bad person. insane too

[Insane]

1. 00:23:072 (4) - Just a note: This feels so strange to play, these eerie sounds in the background are not really noticeable (i didn't hear them out on my first playthrough, hmm). changed it up to be similar to extra. it shouldn't really play differently, but it looks better at least
2. 00:35:924 (1,2) - Stuff I don't really understand: these notes belong to the same part of the music, i'd predict the note to be some below the slider 1, and not right behind it from where the cursor moved, making this jump feel pretty forced to me.
   I know this is a messy song, and it might go against your style, but please consider it. Having a little more sense of order won't hurt. My suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2181354 (with 2.0xDS)would get rid of the drop motion i've got going for 00:36:667 (1) - , which i do in every difficulty :/ i'd rather have it flow like garbage here becuase the song is moving from calm to garbage
3. 00:42:618 (2) - Ctrl+g this? Makes for a more reasonable flow for me. hmmmmmokay
4. 02:16:368 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I'd recommend something similar to the Hard map here.
5. The insanes are so chaotic to play... I like it :3

[Extra]

1. And suddenly, the green lines in the mid parts are gone...what even. >< I suppose you're reworking them. nah, i just don't need scaling slider velocity to match the bpm changes in an extra difficulty :p
2. Idk about this diff... It's actually really fun to play, but the spacing makes me worry quite a lot, especially at your last kiai time. I may watch over it in the future, but I need a fresh mind to look at this diff again. i can handle the kiai becuase of how many sliders there are, but the build up stuff with a bunch of 1/2 jumps i screw up on even tho it's only like 170bpm lol. anyway thanks for the mod :p
   My horrible 1st try btw: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2181444

Overall, mapset is good and fun to play and pretty unique in comparison to the other stuff coming out lately.
Funny how it gets more and more dispersed the further you go through the diffs.

Good luck for the ranks! /o/