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Kiyoura Natsumi - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size)

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Kuroneko-sHerald
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on lunedì 19 aprile 2010 at 09:56:11

Artist: Natsumi Kiyoura
Title: Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size)
Source: Spice and Wolf
Tags: Spice & Wolf TV animation OST Music of Wolf and Travel
BPM: 172
Filesize: 13081kb
Play Time: 01:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Apple (1,04 stars, 77 notes)
  2. Horo (4,81 stars, 192 notes)
  3. Lawrence and Horo (4,85 stars, 219 notes)
  4. Lawrence (4,07 stars, 137 notes)
  5. Wolf (2,86 stars, 114 notes)
Download: Natsumi Kiyoura - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size)
Download: Natsumi Kiyoura - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Spice and Wolf opening :D

Easy: Apple
Normal: Wolf
Hard: Lawrence
Insane 1: Horo
Insane 2: Lawrence and Horo

EDIT: Added Normal.
EDIT: Changed timing and some other things.
EDIT: Added Hard.
EDIT: Added Insane.
EDIT: Changed Artist name from "Kiyoura Natsumi" to "Natsumi Kiyoura", because there is the full version of this song (ranked) that has it inverted.
EDIT: Added another Insane.
EDIT: Changed diff names and added a new spinner-circle.
EDIT: Added hitcirlce and sliderb0-14.
EDIT: Fixed

Note: I've done comboburst, hitcirlce, approachcircle, pause-overlay, spinner-circle, spinner-background and sliderb0-14.

Other skin elements:

SPOILER
spinner-approachcircle, hit and score elements [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12216]DJPop[/url]
pause elements [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9107]S i R i R u[/url]
spinner-osu,spinner-spin and cursor [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7097]Alex0686[/url]
scorebar elements and spinner-clear [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12998]osuplayer111[/url]
scorebar-colour [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8836]avira0922[/url]
spinner-metre [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6223]Yumiko[/url]
hitcircleoverlay [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11975]osuplayer111[/url]
spinner-background [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7766]ztrot[/url]

Thanks to:
Shinxyn
Breeze
gdeath
YGOkid8 (a great thanks for the combo mod)
Leorda
xxheroxx
Kecco
Hikato
orioncomet
Takuma
Mafiamaster
Last edited by Kuroneko-sHerald , edited 78 times in total.
Shinxyn
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Shinxyn
Go with BPM 172.000
offset :1020
And I don't think the hitcircle skin matches!~!
Also, if you are taking skin elements from other maps, ask for permission first... or credit the original skinner please
And, add approachcircle.png skin
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald

Shinxyn wrote:

Go with BPM 172.000
offset :1020
Done.

Shinxyn wrote:

And I don't think the hitcircle skin matches!~!
I've tried to change it.

Shinxyn wrote:

Also, if you are taking skin elements from other maps, ask for permission first... or credit the original skinner please
Done.

Shinxyn wrote:

And, add approachcircle.png skin
Done.
Breeze
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Breeze
Only RED part is what I think you should fix, others are just suggestions

[General]
  1. Countdown is useless in this map, you should turn off it
  2. Easy diff. needs a audio lead-in about 1s-2s, other diff. add or not are both OK
  3. Hitsound feel loud for me, try 50%-70%
  4. 00:19:508 (T) - You'd better put this timing section before notes in case of early hit in playing reslut in different hit sound
  5. 00:23:694 (T) - ^
  6. 00:27:880 (T) - ^
  7. 00:32:066 (T) - ^
  8. 00:36:252 (T) - ^
  9. 00:44:624 (T) - ^
  10. 01:05:554 (T) - ^
  11. 01:24:392 (T) - ^
    And other issues like these
[Easy]
  1. 00:47:415 (1-7) - Unusual spacing in Easy? No, that's hard for begginer
  2. 00:53:345 (1) - Feel this circle is hard to hit for begginer :/
  3. 01:22:647 (1,2,3) - Spacing...
[Normal]
  1. 00:23:694 (T) - Forget to set this to normal hitsound? And also, remember to put it before note
[Insane]
  1. 00:13:578 (1) - Hidden reverse sign
  2. 00:23:694 (T) - Forget to set this to normal hitsound? And also, remember to put it before note
others are fine
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Topic Starter
Kuroneko-sHerald

Breeze wrote:

Only RED part is what I think you should fix, others are just suggestions

[General]
  1. Countdown is useless in this map, you should turn off it -->Done.
  2. Easy diff. needs a audio lead-in about 1s-2s, other diff. add or not are both OK -->Done on Easy.
  3. Hitsound feel loud for me, try 50%-70% -->Done.
  4. 00:19:508 (T) - You'd better put this timing section before notes in case of early hit in playing reslut in different hit sound -->Done.
  5. 00:23:694 (T) - ^ -->Done.
  6. 00:27:880 (T) - ^ -->Done.
  7. 00:32:066 (T) - ^ -->Done.
  8. 00:36:252 (T) - ^ -->Done.
  9. 00:44:624 (T) - ^ -->Done.
  10. 01:05:554 (T) - ^ -->Done.
  11. 01:24:392 (T) - ^ -->Done.
    And other issues like these -->Done.
[Easy]
  1. 00:47:415 (1-7) - Unusual spacing in Easy? No, that's hard for begginer -->I think that in that way it would be more simple :o Done.
  2. 00:53:345 (1) - Feel this circle is hard to hit for begginer :/ -->Oh Well, it sounds fine even without this beat, so I remove it.
  3. 01:22:647 (1,2,3) - Spacing...-->Done.
[Normal]
  1. 00:23:694 (T) - Forget to set this to normal hitsound? And also, remember to put it before note -->Yes, I forgot it :? Done.
[Insane]
  1. 00:13:578 (1) - Hidden reverse sign -->Done.
  2. 00:23:694 (T) - Forget to set this to normal hitsound? And also, remember to put it before note -->Done.
Last edited by Kuroneko-sHerald , edited 1 time in total.
gdeath
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gdeath
Offset :1037(1020+17)

[Easy]
00:07:996 (8,9) - replace clap with soft-whistle( i dont think the clap is suitable for this song.i feel its a bit heavy)
01:05:903 (1) - set a green line and make the volume lower

[Normal]
00:07:996 (5,6) - the same opinion with [Easy]
00:54:043 (3,6) - add soft-whistle on the end of slider
00:58:229 (3,6) - ^
01:05:903 (1) - set a green line and make the volume lower

[Hard]
00:07:996 (5,6) - the same opinion with [Easy]

[Insane]
00:01:019 (1) - make the slider end on 00:01:717
00:03:113 (1) - make the slider end on 00:03:810

Star!
YGOkid8
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YGOkid8
General

You have 2 options.

Option 1:
BPM: 57.333
Offset: 670

Doing this would make the timing as it should be, but a change of Slider Velocity would be needed.

Option 2:
Offset: 670

Change Time Signature to "3/4 Simple Triple"
(Timing --> Timing Setup Panel -> Time Signature)

Do option 2 if you're too lazy to do Option 1.

Easy

Combo Mod~
Download: Natsumi Kiyoura - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size) (Kuroneko-sHerald) [Easy].osu

Normal Mod~
00:47:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Too hard for Easy. Do something like replace with a slider

Normal

Combo Mod~
Download: Natsumi Kiyoura - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size) (Kuroneko-sHerald) [Normal].osu

Hard

Combo Mod~
Download: Natsumi Kiyoura - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size) (Kuroneko-sHerald) [Hard].osu
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Damn, can only do maximum 3 attachments. Do all these stuff, and I'll combo mod Insane + Normal mod the others.
If I don't, Forum PM me a reminder


Leorda
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Leorda
CIAO!!

[General]
1) Tags?

[Skin]
1) I think it would be nice if you add a fail-background.png
2) Add a spinner-background.png! It's bad looking if there's no spinner-background.png!

[Easy]
01:10:089 (1) - Don't place the slider near spinner in timing, since this a easy diff

[Normal]
00:01:368 (2) - Move 6 grid up to make it better to see?
00:06:601 (3) - Move 4 grid left to make it better to see?

[Hard]
00:49:857 (1) - Delete the spinner at 00:51:252 (1) and extend this spinner to 00:52:996

[Insane]
00:08:519 (2,3) - Move 1 grid down?

Nice song
STAR
Card N'FoRcE
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Card N'FoRcE
Timing request.

YGOkid8 is right, this map has 3/4 timing signature.
Press F6 and change it in the first section.

Anyway, i think offset should be 675 :P

No kudosu please, since i was asked to confirm that.
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Topic Starter
Kuroneko-sHerald

gdeath wrote:

Offset :1037(1020+17) -->I've choose another offset.

[Easy]
00:07:996 (8,9) - replace clap with soft-whistle( i dont think the clap is suitable for this song.i feel its a bit heavy) -->Done.
01:05:903 (1) - set a green line and make the volume lower -->Done.

[Normal]
00:07:996 (5,6) - the same opinion with [Easy] -->Done.
00:54:043 (3,6) - add soft-whistle on the end of slider -->Done.
00:58:229 (3,6) - ^ -->Done.
01:05:903 (1) - set a green line and make the volume lower -->Done.

[Hard]
00:07:996 (5,6) - the same opinion with [Easy] -->Done.

[Insane]
00:01:019 (1) - make the slider end on 00:01:717 -->Done.
00:03:113 (1) - make the slider end on 00:03:810 -->Done.

YGOkid8 wrote:

General
Option 2:
Offset: 670 --> I've put 675.

Change Time Signature to "3/4 Simple Triple" --> Done.
(Timing --> Timing Setup Panel -> Time Signature)

Do option 2 if you're too lazy to do Option 1. --> Yes, too lazy :P

Normal Mod~
00:47:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Too hard for Easy. Do something like replace with a slider --> Done.

Leorda wrote:

CIAO!!

[General]
1) Tags? --> Did you have any suggestions? Beacuse "Kiyoura Natsumi" and "Tabi no Tochuu" are on the title and "Spice and Wolf" is on the Source, so there isn't any tags to add :o

[Skin]
1) I think it would be nice if you add a fail-background.png --> :? I didn't know that this skin element exist XD Added.
2) Add a spinner-background.png! It's bad looking if there's no spinner-background.png! -->Added.

[Easy]
01:10:089 (1) - Don't place the slider near spinner in timing, since this a easy diff I prefer mantaining it, if possible.

[Normal]
00:01:368 (2) - Move 6 grid up to make it better to see? Why 6 and not 3? In that way it isn't well snapped. Anyway done.
00:06:601 (3) - Move 4 grid left to make it better to see? Same here.

[Hard]
00:49:857 (1) - Delete the spinner at 00:51:252 (1) and extend this spinner to 00:52:996 --> Done.

[Insane]
00:08:519 (2,3) - Move 1 grid down? -->Done.
Last edited by Kuroneko-sHerald , edited 1 time in total.
YGOkid8
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YGOkid8
General
Set 3 seconds for Audio Lead-In Time for all diffs.
If you don't choose to follow, then at least make Lead-In Time for all diffs the same.
The map starts the same for all diffs, so Lead-In should be same as well.

Easy
Oh my, HP Drain Rate + Overall Difficulty is way too high. This is an Easy diff.
Reduce HP Drain Rate by 3, Overall Diff. by 2.

Normal
...reduce HP Drain + Overall Diff. by 3.

Hard
Reduce HP Drain + Overall Diff. by 1.

Insane
Ma combo mod~
Download: Natsumi Kiyoura - Tabi no Tochuu (TV Size) (Kuroneko-sHerald) [Insane].osu

Really, that's it. Star ~ ☆
Kuroneko-sHerald
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YGOkid8 wrote:

General
Set 3 seconds for Audio Lead-In Time for all diffs. --> Done.
If you don't choose to follow, then at least make Lead-In Time for all diffs the same.
The map starts the same for all diffs, so Lead-In should be same as well.

Easy
Oh my, HP Drain Rate + Overall Difficulty is way too high. This is an Easy diff.
Reduce HP Drain Rate by 3, Overall Diff. by 2. --> Done.

Normal
...reduce HP Drain + Overall Diff. by 3. --> I prefer to mantain this setting.

Hard
Reduce HP Drain + Overall Diff. by 1. -->Same here.
Diasios
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Diasios
[General]

  • • Aggiungi delle tags
    • Ci sono pochi hitsounds nelle varie difficoltà :S ti consiglio di aggiungere altri suoni soft
[Easy]

  • • Slider velocity: 0,70/0,80
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald

xxheroxx wrote:

[General]

  • • Aggiungi delle tags Come ho detto in un altro post, non so che tag aggiungere.
    • Ci sono pochi hitsounds nelle varie difficoltà :S ti consiglio di aggiungere altri suoni soft Fatto.
[Easy]

  • • Slider velocity: 0,70/0,80 Fatto.
Kecco
908 posts
Joined September 2009
Kecco
•Insane•
00:02:768 (4) - Add a finish instead of whistle.
00:04:861 (4) - ^
00:09:047 (5) - ^
00:11:140 (6) - ^
00:13:233 (7) - ^ Only at the beginning of the slider
00:17:419 (3) - ^ Only at the beginning of the slider
00:19:512 (2) - ^
00:21:605 (5) - ^ Only at the beginning of the slider
00:25:791 (6) - ^
00:27:884 (5) - ^
00:29:977 (2) - ^
00:34:163 (2,3,4) - ^
00:38:349 (7) - ^

•Hard•Normal•Easy•
Add the finish hitsounds at the same points of insane when it's possible.

The map is ok~ There is just a little issue with hitsounds. Modding with my indications the issue will not exist anymore.
Good song~
You should know that there is another map ranked with this song~
Star~

Edit: Scusa per la lingua inglese, ma non sapevo che tu fossi italiano... Perdonami~ Se hai problemi a capire chiedi pure~
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kecco wrote:

•Insane•
00:02:768 (4) - Add a finish instead of whistle. Done.
00:04:861 (4) - ^ Done.
00:09:047 (5) - ^ Done.
00:11:140 (6) - ^ Done.
00:13:233 (7) - ^ Only at the beginning of the slider Done.
00:17:419 (3) - ^ Only at the beginning of the slider Done.
00:19:512 (2) - ^ Done.
00:21:605 (5) - ^ Only at the beginning of the slider Done.
00:25:791 (6) - ^ Done.
00:27:884 (5) - ^ Done.
00:29:977 (2) - ^ Done.
00:34:163 (2,3,4) - ^ Done.
00:38:349 (7) - ^ Done.

•Hard•Normal•Easy•
Add the finish hitsounds at the same points of insane when it's possible. Done.
Hikato
444 posts
Joined August 2008
Hikato
[General]
Tags?

[Apple]
00:56:140 (3) - The only problem on AIMod. Might aswell fix it by moving it one grid right.
No major problems.

[Wolf]
No problems.

[Lawrence]
00:03:814 (6) - Spacing.
00:10:268 (4) - Move forward by 1/2 and add a beat at 00:10:268?
00:12:361 (9) - Move forward by 1/2 and add a beat at 00:12:361?

[Horo]
00:06:779 (3) - Remove?
00:16:198 (6) - Remove?
00:17:942 (4) - Remove?
00:30:151 (3) - Remove?
00:38:174 (6) - Remove?
01:00:151 (4) - Remove?
01:03:988 (2) - Remove?
01:07:128 (4) - Remove?
01:11:314 (4) - Remove?
01:12:884 (3) - Looks a little messed up.
01:16:547 (2) - Remove whistle.
Use AIMod and check spacing issues.

[Lawrence and Horo]
00:37:302 (7,8,9,10) - Spacing.
No major problems.

Mostly suggestions.

Nice map.
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Hikato wrote:

[General]
Tags?

[Apple]
00:56:140 (3) - The only problem on AIMod. Might aswell fix it by moving it one grid right. Done.
No major problems.

[Lawrence]
00:03:814 (6) - Spacing. Done.
00:10:268 (4) - Move forward by 1/2 and add a beat at 00:10:268? It sounds fine, so I change it.
00:12:361 (9) - Move forward by 1/2 and add a beat at 00:12:361? Same here.

[Horo]
00:06:779 (3) - Remove? No.
00:16:198 (6) - Remove? Done.
00:17:942 (4) - Remove? No.
00:30:151 (3) - Remove? Done.
00:38:174 (6) - Remove? No.
01:00:151 (4) - Remove? No.
01:03:988 (2) - Remove? No.
01:07:128 (4) - Remove? Done.
01:11:314 (4) - Remove? Done.
01:12:884 (3) - Looks a little messed up. Eh? I don't see in what way it's messed up.
01:16:547 (2) - Remove whistle. Done.
Use AIMod and check spacing issues.

[Lawrence and Horo]
00:37:302 (7,8,9,10) - Spacing. It's insane, so I can leave it.
No major problems.
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orioncomet
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orioncomet
[Horo]
00:06:954 (3) - Spacing, tooo close with (2)
00:47:419 (8) - new combo?

that all ~ Starr ~ ^^
Kuroneko-sHerald
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orioncomet wrote:

[Horo]
00:06:954 (3) - Spacing, tooo close with (2) Added a beat at 00:47:419 (1) - to fix the problem.
00:47:419 (8) - new combo? Done.
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