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Hoobastank - The Reason [Osu|Taiko]

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Peachtrees
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 02 August 2015 at 16:21:34

Artist: Hoobastank
Title: The Reason
Tags: Nwolf Post-grunge Alternative Island Rock Douglass Robb
BPM: 82.97
Filesize: 6415kb
Play Time: 04:03
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.16 stars, 182 notes)
  2. Normal (1.56 stars, 239 notes)
  3. Nwolf's Muzukashii (2.05 stars, 399 notes)
  4. Nwolf's Oni (2.52 stars, 583 notes)
Download: Hoobastank - The Reason
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Taiko Diffs by Nwolf
Ringating
from my queue:

I upscaled the 720p image to 1366x768, then sharpened it a bit to compensate for the upscaling artifacts somewhat.no kds
Topic Starter
Peachtrees
Thank you! Your Q is awesome!
D0vid
Hello, M4M :)

Awasaswesome song :D

Easy:

00:28:110 (2) - i would make it curvy like this http://prntscr.com/6zmyqy
00:58:843 (2) - i feel like there should be a note in there, it's not REALLY needed but i expected it when i played it ^^
02:22:362 (1,3,3,3) - in my opinion it would be more cool if some of them were shaped differently, just to vary a bit :)

the rest seems pretty ok to me, sorry if it's not much :p

Normal:

00:20:879 (1) - a blanket would look nicer :) http://prntscr.com/6zn326
00:26:664 (1) - same here ^^
00:38:234 (1) - here again (there are some more but i won't point out every one of them)
01:09:689 (4) - a circle here would be cool :)
02:33:931 (1) - try a shape like this? :) http://prntscr.com/6zn931
02:39:716 (1) - maybe this one here? :D http://prntscr.com/6zn9qc

again not much but except some blankets it seems perfectly fine to me :)

good luck with your beatmap man ! :D
Topic Starter
Peachtrees

SKAIII wrote:

Hello, M4M :)

Awasaswesome song :D

Easy:

00:28:110 (2) - i would make it curvy like this http://prntscr.com/6zmyqy that little bump between 2 and 3 doesn't feel as nice to play :c
00:58:843 (2) - i feel like there should be a note in there, it's not REALLY needed but i expected it when i played it ^^ I'll consider adding this should more people point it out, though I will say that I think that fully mapping out the vocals here might not be a good idea
02:22:362 (1,3,3,3) - in my opinion it would be more cool if some of them were shaped differently, just to vary a bit :) will do the same thing as ^, though I feel like these roundish sliders are bootifull :c

the rest seems pretty ok to me, sorry if it's not much :p

Normal:

00:20:879 (1) - a blanket would look nicer :) http://prntscr.com/6zn326 rather have this without a blanket for a nicer transition into the next slider. things don't always have to blanket
00:26:664 (1) - same here ^^ ok I agree on this one
00:38:234 (1) - here again (there are some more but i won't point out every one of them) actually was a blanket, just an ugly one lol
01:09:689 (4) - a circle here would be cool :) feels a bit overdone ><
02:33:931 (1) - try a shape like this? :) http://prntscr.com/6zn931 o god yes
02:39:716 (1) - maybe this one here? :D http://prntscr.com/6zn9qc did something similar c:

again not much but except some blankets it seems perfectly fine to me :) added a few blankets, though I will say that I don't really think everything has to blanket

good luck with your beatmap man ! :D
Thanks a bunch for your mod <3
soelsoel
Hello... Peachtrees from random #modreqs
I'm new to mod but I'll try my best

wow...impressive...your map look very good so I have few mod

SPOILER
[General]
Are you sure that you enable countdown in this song ?

[Easy]
00:32:449 (1) - parallel with 00:33:895 (2) ?
00:49:804 (1) - it seem not in grid snap
02:20:916 (3) - could it move down a bit ?
02:57:071 (1,2) - is it parallel ? if not try make it parallel

[Normal]
02:33:931 (1) - could you make ball hit red angle point at 02:35:016

May be you should find modder who better than me.
I hope your map gat ranked in someday.

ps.Could you mod my map? here if you want to.
Topic Starter
Peachtrees

soelsoel wrote:

Hello... Peachtrees from random #modreqs
I'm new to mod but I'll try my best

wow...impressive...your map look very good so I have few mod

SPOILER
[General]
Are you sure that you enable countdown in this song ?

oops

[Easy]
00:32:449 (1) - parallel with 00:33:895 (2) ? I think this was a tiny bit off? fixed it just to make sure
00:49:804 (1) - it seem not in grid snap doesnt have to be c:
02:20:916 (3) - could it move down a bit ? changed it up a little, though it was mostly about the 'blanket' with the next slider
02:57:071 (1,2) - is it parallel ? if not try make it parallel it is!

[Normal]
02:33:931 (1) - could you make ball hit red angle point at 02:35:016

current one feels fine :c

May be you should find modder who better than me.
I hope your map gat ranked in someday.

ps.Could you mod my map? here if you want to.
Thanks for your mod!

You can hit me up ingame for an IRC mod if you want c:
HappyRocket88


Hi! Peachtrees. AS you know I love this song, so I'm modding it. This is my sixth mod. I'm not a good modder. So if you don't agree with my mod, it's fine. I'm constantly learning.

SOME PERSONAL COMMENTS
  1. I really liked the song. I don't know where did you dinf it, but it's awesome. You found a great song to map so I'll do my best to support this map when you need. But with all of that means you have really good likes. o3o
  2. The hitsounds are just awesome. They really flow with the song. o3o
  3. You've done a great job by mapping the whole diffs with that slow BPM :o . So, I just can say Congratulations!
  4. Well I wish this map will get ranked soon. So keep working on it! and never give up. Good luck. n.n7
✿ General ✿

GENERAL STUFFS BEFORE MODDING

  1. GENERAL Overall it's pretty good mapped. Congratulations.
  2. HARD DIFF I don't know ut I'll love if you map a hard diff of this map. It's just a suggestion. You already complaned at me about this stuffs. (/u\)
  3. SPREAD I don't think that there's a difference between the easy and normal map. They have almost the same stars and some equal patterns. This is just a suggestion. I don't know pretty well about this ranking criteria stuff.

✿ Difficulties avalable ✿

Normal

  1. GENERAL Pretty good mapped.
  2. 00:20:156 (4,1) Fix this blanket.
  3. 01:35:721 Note missing? I know there's a vocal here but maybe you can add it.
  4. 02:15:131 (2,1) Fix this blanket. The red slider is so close of the blue one. o.o
  5. 02:39:716 (1) Fix this moustache shape.
  6. 03:28:888 (1) Remove Nc?

Easy

  1. 01:07:158 (1) This object isn't well placed on the grind.
  2. 01:53:437 (1) Make this slider rounded or curve as you did with this one 00:55:589 (1)
  3. 02:06:454 (2,3) Fix this blanket.
  4. 03:02:856 (1) Same as the first point.
Topic Starter
Peachtrees

HappyRocket88 wrote:



Hi! Peachtrees. AS you know I love this song, so I'm modding it. This is my sixth mod. I'm not a good modder. So if you don't agree with my mod, it's fine. I'm constantly learning.

SOME PERSONAL COMMENTS
  1. I really liked the song. I don't know where did you dinf it, but it's awesome. You found a great song to map so I'll do my best to support this map when you need. But with all of that means you have really good likes. o3o aaah thank you <3
  2. The hitsounds are just awesome. They really flow with the song. o3o >< thanks! i'm usually sucker for hitsounds
  3. You've done a great job by mapping the whole diffs with that slow BPM :o . So, I just can say Congratulations!
  4. Well I wish this map will get ranked soon. So keep working on it! and never give up. neva give uuupGood luck. n.n7
✿ General ✿

GENERAL STUFFS BEFORE MODDING

  1. GENERAL Overall it's pretty good mapped. Congratulations.
  2. HARD DIFF I don't know ut I'll love if you map a hard diff of this map. It's just a suggestion. You already complaned at me about this stuffs. (/u\) nooo I didn't mean to complain I just wasn't sure if this supported a real Hard Diff ;A; will wait for more opinions on this
  3. SPREAD I don't think that there's a difference between the easy and normal map. They have almost the same stars and some equal patterns. This is just a suggestion. I don't know pretty well about this ranking criteria stuff. I tried to make the Normal Normal+ish to and clearly distinguish it from the Easy, since I had to use 1/2 for both :c

✿ Difficulties avalable ✿

Normal

  1. GENERAL Pretty good mapped.
  2. 00:20:156 (4,1) Fix this blanket. This wasn't supposed to blanket in the first place ;A;
  3. 01:35:721 Note missing? I know there's a vocal here but maybe you can add it. changed up the rythm slightly to have this covered
  4. 02:15:131 (2,1) Fix this blanket. The red slider is so close of the blue one. o.o remapped this part entirely uwu
  5. 02:39:716 (1) Fix this moustache shape. I like my moustaches >:C
  6. 03:28:888 (1) Remove Nc?aii

Easy

  1. 01:07:158 (1) This object isn't well placed on the grind. Eh kinda moved that pattern to be less off-screen
  2. 01:53:437 (1) Make this slider rounded or curve as you did with this one 00:55:589 (1) did somthing like that c:
  3. 02:06:454 (2,3) Fix this blanket. wasn't supposed to blanket >>
  4. 03:02:856 (1) Same as the first point. did something to make this less-offscreen ~
Thanks a bunch for your mod o3o
Lally
nice song o3o
Topic Starter
Peachtrees
;A; i cri errytime
Hard
yo.

[Normal]

  1. 00:23:772 (1,2,3,4) - how about you play with the volume here a bit? it becomes a lot louder so maybe do something with this. that makes the map a lot more interesting. i suggest you add inheriting sections at 00:25:218 - with volume 35 and 00:25:941 - (it's okay that it becomes quieter afterwards because it becomes that in the song too) maybe also add a hitfinish on the beginnings of 00:25:218 (3,4) - (a soft one)
  2. 00:44:019 (1,2,3) - this looks a bit sloppy made, tbh. maybe make a line out of this
  3. 01:04:266 (1,2) - this plays weird. i suggest you delete 01:05:712 (2) - and just put a circle at 01:06:074 - and only map the vocals to emphasize them a bit
  4. 01:27:044 - i think you should add a circle here. you're suddenly changing what you're mapping and there's vocal AND guitar here.
  5. not much to find here, though. it's okay i guess. take a star
[Easy]

  1. 00:17:987 (4) - i think you should add a nc here (I rarely mod nc's but i think this is really important here because the drums are starting at this point and the thing before is something like a prelude and this should show somehow)
  2. 00:23:049 (2,3) - make a straight line here for looks
  3. 00:25:218 (4,5) - place 5 a bit more down so it looks like it's an extension of the slider before
  4. 01:29:937 (6) - maybe move this one down?
  5. okay. there's nothing wrong with this diff. and at this point i wont point out the little beauty-issues you got because i'm no fan of nazi modding. good luck with that map.

hope i could help you at least a bit. there's really not much to do wrong with an easy + normal mapset and that's why i can't find much. hope i still could at least find some little things. well. good luck with that set ~
Topic Starter
Peachtrees

Hard wrote:

yo.

[Normal]

  1. 00:23:772 (1,2,3,4) - how about you play with the volume here a bit? it becomes a lot louder so maybe do something with this. that makes the map a lot more interesting. i suggest you add inheriting sections at 00:25:218 - with volume 35 and 00:25:941 - (it's okay that it becomes quieter afterwards because it becomes that in the song too) maybe also add a hitfinish on the beginnings of 00:25:218 (3,4) - (a soft one)

    pretty sweet idea, I like it
  2. 00:44:019 (1,2,3) - this looks a bit sloppy made, tbh. maybe make a line out of this

    straightened this out a bit
  3. 01:04:266 (1,2) - this plays weird. i suggest you delete 01:05:712 (2) - and just put a circle at 01:06:074 - and only map the vocals to emphasize them a bit

    done. did the same thing with every kiai
  4. 01:27:044 - i think you should add a circle here. you're suddenly changing what you're mapping and there's vocal AND guitar here. (Y)
  5. not much to find here, though. it's okay i guess. take a star
[Easy]

  1. 00:17:987 (4) - i think you should add a nc here (I rarely mod nc's but i think this is really important here because the drums are starting at this point and the thing before is something like a prelude and this should show somehow) works for me
  2. 00:23:049 (2,3) - make a straight line here for looks hmm did something similar
  3. 00:25:218 (4,5) - place 5 a bit more down so it looks like it's an extension of the slider before aight
  4. 01:29:937 (6) - maybe move this one down? moved down a liiitle
  5. okay. there's nothing wrong with this diff. and at this point i wont point out the little beauty-issues you got because i'm no fan of nazi modding. good luck with that map.
Tried making quite a few cosmetic changes to the map, following your suggestions. Minor ones for the most part but I feel like they overall helped improve the map

hope i could help you at least a bit. there's really not much to do wrong with an easy + normal mapset and that's why i can't find much. hope i still could at least find some little things. well. good luck with that set ~
sorry, my sets are lame :c
Come[Back]Home
Easy

00:55:589 (1) Is it really necessary that the slider is so long? I know the guitar comes in, but i dont think that such a long slider is necessary or fits. Let it repeat here 00:56:312 and add another slider like that

00:59:204 (1,2,3) This can be pretty tough for beginners, its okay to use it in a normal, but not in an Easy pls

01:50:545 (4) Move this slider's tail to 56/240. I think it looks pretty nice

01:57:053 (1,2,3) Same reason as 00:59:204 (1,2,3)

02:28:147 (4) Add NC since 02:22:362 (1) this has a NC too (Or you just delete the NC at 02:22:362 (1) if you do, ignore the below )

02:33:931 (4) ^

02:39:716 (4) ^

03:06:471 (1,2,3) Same reason as 00:59:204 (1,2,3)

03:23:103 (4) How about you make this one straight like 03:20:210 (1)

Btw, the same with the Newcombos 03:08:641 - 03:54:920 here


Normal

CS 3,5

00:41:126 (1,3) It looks nice, but i think they are too close to each other which looks weird

00:46:911 (1,3,1) Same here and (3,1) are overlaping

01:17:282 (2,1) They are overlaping. Move teh second slidertick too 104/228 and the 3rd too 192/272 and the 4th too 252/204. Its not perfect, but it looks better.



Thats it, nice mapset~ :3 Good luck
Topic Starter
Peachtrees

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Easy

00:55:589 (1) Is it really necessary that the slider is so long? I know the guitar comes in, but i dont think that such a long slider is necessary or fits. Let it repeat here 00:56:312 and add another slider like that

it also does a decent job of emphasizing the vocals. I kinda like the slider, so I'll need more opinions before touching it

00:59:204 (1,2,3) This can be pretty tough for beginners, its okay to use it in a normal, but not in an Easy pls feels ok for a song this slow, especially since the vocals feel very nice and easy to follow, plus the pattern is designed in a very simple way too. It's consistent everytime throughout the kiais so the player will not get caught off guard by different rythms or patterns

01:50:545 (4) Move this slider's tail to 56/240. I think it looks pretty nice aight

01:57:053 (1,2,3) Same reason as 00:59:204 (1,2,3) ^

02:28:147 (4) Add NC since 02:22:362 (1) this has a NC too (Or you just delete the NC at 02:22:362 (1) if you do, ignore the below ) uuh yeah I guess

02:33:931 (4) ^ ^

02:39:716 (4) ^ ^

03:06:471 (1,2,3) Same reason as 00:59:204 (1,2,3) ^

03:23:103 (4) How about you make this one straight like 03:20:210 (1) works for me

Btw, the same with the Newcombos 03:08:641 - 03:54:920 here


Normal

CS 3,5 cs 4 feels fine, willl consider changing this if pointed out more often

00:41:126 (1,3) It looks nice, but i think they are too close to each other which looks weird eh increased distance

00:46:911 (1,3,1) Same here and (3,1) are overlaping increased distance slightly, but it does not overlap. Don't use CS 3.5 when modding :P

01:17:282 (2,1) They are overlaping. Move teh second slidertick too 104/228 and the 3rd too 192/272 and the 4th too 252/204. Its not perfect, but it looks better. ^



Thats it, nice mapset~ :3 Good luck
Thank you!
Surono
<(``)

[General]
Check AiMod diff taco, well forjet..~

[Muzukashii]
this... well nice~
eh this, 02:48:394 (2) - high pitch, not kat for different?.. well nice~

[Oni]
02:48:394 (2) - this too, kat~
Kazuya
Hello.

It's only suggestions! I know, it's boring nazi mod, but I couldn't find any rhythm problems. A note: Please, create a Hard difficulty!

[Normal]

00:55:589 (1) - Move bit right: x: 68 y: 289
01:14:389 (3) - Better flow: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11JRQVR
01:22:344 (1) - Curve slider? Better than linear. http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11JRAVR
01:24:513 (1) - Same as: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11JRwVR use similar
01:30:298 (1) - same as. Use http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEQVR. Flow is better
01:33:190 (1,2) - ^ http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEAVR or use red point: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEwVR
01:35:360 (4,1) - Use this similar: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEgVR
01:49:099 (2) - Maybe this: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFQVR
02:02:115 (1) - Add red point? http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFAVR
02:44:055 (4) - Move slider end point to: x: 274 y: 52
03:08:641 (1,2,3) - Use his similar: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFwVR Flow is better!
03:43:350 (1) - Better flow: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFgVR

[Easy]

Hmm. Easy is harder than Normal, because more 1/2 circle, slider, 1/2 part. Are you sure this is easy? Currently normal easier than Easy difficulty. I think, remap this difficulty, pleae, delete some 1/2 circle, and slider pair, and use simple 1/1 slider.

Examples:

- 00:17:625 (3) - Delete
- 00:20:156 (2,3) - Delete circle pair, and use 1/2 slider, or delete 00:20:518 (3) - circle It's bit hard for Easy.
- 00:25:218 (4,5) - Use 1/1 slider
- 00:29:194 (3) - Delete
- 00:59:204 (1,2,3) - This part very hard. Don't use this technique.
- 01:04:266 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same as ^Extremely hard for Easy. Don't use this technique.

... and the rest.

Don't use 1/2 circle, and 1/2 slider pair.It's Easy difficulty. not Hard and Normal!


00:55:589 (1,2) - Flow is not good here. It's better flow: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IGQVR
02:12:238 (2) - CTRL + G. Flow is better

Good Luck
Topic Starter
Peachtrees
will apply as soon as I get back from work!

Though I can already say that I disagree with the Easy being harder than the Normal :/ mapping 1/1 only for a bpm this low would feel very boring and monotonous. I can probably nerf some 1/2, but I'm not going to remap the entire Difficulty unless this ends up being an unrankable issue
Topic Starter
Peachtrees

Kazuya wrote:

Hello.

It's only suggestions! I know, it's boring nazi mod, but I couldn't find any rhythm problems. A note: Please, create a Hard difficulty!

Hard Diff: I was trying to make the Normal a Normal+ ish slowed down Hard kind of Diff, with cs4, rather spaced out and a rather high ar. Right now, I'm afraid that a Hard Diff would just end up being exactly like the Normal Diff with slightly higher SV slammed onto the map. I know that there are some 1/4 in the map, but I honestly just think that the song feels rather slow 90% of the time so mapping these doesn't feel like a good idea. Will wait for more input on this, though I'm not convinced that this neccessarily calls for a Hard Diff

[Normal]

00:55:589 (1) - Move bit right: x: 68 y: 289 barely noticeable, doesn't hurt doing this though I guess
01:14:389 (3) - Better flow: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11JRQVR aight
01:22:344 (1) - Curve slider? Better than linear. http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11JRAVR curved, but made the next to straight since I don't want the whole pattern to look to monotonous
01:24:513 (1) - Same as: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11JRwVR use similar^
01:30:298 (1) - same as. Use http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEQVR. Flow is better current one feels fine
01:33:190 (1,2) - ^ http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEAVR or use red point: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEwVR curved ones feel nice c:
01:35:360 (4,1) - Use this similar: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IEgVR did smthing to this c:
01:49:099 (2) - Maybe this: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFQVR kewl
02:02:115 (1) - Add red point? http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFAVR works for me c:
02:44:055 (4) - Move slider end point to: x: 274 y: 52 hmm barely noticeable improvement =w=
03:08:641 (1,2,3) - Use his similar: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFwVR Flow is better! did something to these sliders, not sure if this'll hold up.
03:43:350 (1) - Better flow: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IFgVR I'd like to keep this drop c: slightly altered the sliders orientation though for nicer flow

[Easy]

Hmm. Easy is harder than Normal, because more 1/2 circle, slider, 1/2 part. Are you sure this is easy? Currently normal easier than Easy difficulty. I think, remap this difficulty, pleae, delete some 1/2 circle, and slider pair, and use simple 1/1 slider.

using 1/2 for a song this slow for an Easy honestly feels appropriate. I'm willing to make the usage of 1/2 as predictable and easy to hit as possible, but I don't think that simply getting rid of them is a good idea, it makes the whole thing boring to play, which honestly doesn't do the song justice.

Examples:

- 00:17:625 (3) - Delete
- 00:20:156 (2,3) - Delete circle pair, and use 1/2 slider, or delete 00:20:518 (3) - circle It's bit hard for Easy.
- 00:25:218 (4,5) - Use 1/1 slider
- 00:29:194 (3) - Delete
- 00:59:204 (1,2,3) - This part very hard. Don't use this technique.
- 01:04:266 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same as ^Extremely hard for Easy. Don't use this technique.

... and the rest.

Don't use 1/2 circle, and 1/2 slider pair.It's Easy difficulty. not Hard and Normal!


00:55:589 (1,2) - Flow is not good here. It's better flow: http://imagerz.com/QBUTDUtvAwMMB11IGQVR feels fine to me, it looks/plays more interesting to me :c
02:12:238 (2) - CTRL + G. Flow is better replaced with circles, feels nicer ><

Good Luck
Thank you!
Nwolf
No change for the taiko diffs, thanks anyway~
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