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sana - Yakimochi no Kotae

posted 2015-05-01T14:28:09+00:00

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Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2015-05-01T14:28:09+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 23 août 2015 at 15:43:12

Artist: sana
Title: Yakimochi no Kotae
Tags: c86 honeyworks 好きなひと solution for jealousy frey umi
BPM: 190
Filesize: 19708kb
Play Time: 03:35
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1,53 stars, 212 notes)
Frey's Insane (4,52 stars, 715 notes)
Hard (2,87 stars, 506 notes)
Hyper (3,56 stars, 624 notes)
Jealousy (5,43 stars, 956 notes)
Umi's Normal (2,13 stars, 319 notes)

Download: sana - Yakimochi no Kotae
Download: sana - Yakimochi no Kotae (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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10th Ranked Map.
Mapped with all my love, for P. ~ ♥
Thanks litoluna and toybot for the Background.
Thanks Umi for the video.

Mapset

Jealousy by me.

Insane by Frey.

Hyper by me.

Hard by me.

Normal by Umi.

Easy by me.

Thanks for modding/helping :

SPOILER

litoluna
Umi
UndeadCapulet
monstrata
baraatje123
Alheak
toybot
Nozhomi
Natsu

Last edited by Cherry Blossom 2015-09-01T15:57:56+00:00, edited 72 times in total.

miwari

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Joined December 2014

miwari 2015-05-01T16:27:36+00:00

My life is complete now, thank you cb

Meg

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Meg 2015-05-11T13:15:16+00:00

hentai hentai CB hentai ~~~~~~ \:3/

Kuron-kun

Kuron-kun 2015-05-11T17:06:29+00:00

cutest couple ever <3

Sylith

722 posts

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Sylith 2015-05-12T14:50:10+00:00

;w; ganbare

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

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Nozhomi 2015-05-26T12:06:01+00:00

ohhhyeeeeeee pls do it !

Len

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Len 2015-05-29T15:41:59+00:00

GOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooddddddd

Pururut

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Pururut 2015-06-20T10:36:28+00:00

Frey anywhere
/me touch Frey's oppai

Cherry Blossom

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Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

Cherry Blossom 2015-06-20T10:42:56+00:00

Pururut wrote:
Frey anywhere
/me touch Frey's oppai

hentai ;w;

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-06-21T10:22:53+00:00

Pururut wrote:
Frey anywhere
/me touch Frey's oppai

;w; hentai, plz die

Loony

226 posts

Joined October 2014

Loony 2015-07-28T20:05:52+00:00

Beautiful song, as well as the mapset. *o*
So good luck with ranking!

UndeadCapulet

1,100 posts

Joined April 2013

UndeadCapulet 2015-07-29T03:38:23+00:00

From your queue:

Extra

This map's pretty streamy, perhaps bump the OD up a little :V

00:00:987 (3,4) - aww, not gonna map the grace notes?

00:10:144 (3,4) - do a full ctrl+g, so it looks like this. I think this snaps into 00:10:776 (5) - better and makes for a nicer 00:10:460 (4,5,1,2) - motion.
00:11:408 (3,4) - Ehh, I'm not feeling the 1/2 tapping here, this kind of thing would be more fitting at 00:11:723 (5) - 's point on the timeline. Maybe try delete 4 and ctrl+h 3? Or just turn this into a slider idk
00:20:250 (2,3) - Maybe stack these so the "desu" is kept together?
00:48:513 (5) - I believe the piano starts at this point?? So how about NC'ing? Or rearrange your stream layout to show this piano off. Applies to all similar areas, such as 01:56:881 (5) - .
00:53:723 (3) - Yeah, let's talk about this for a bit, shall we? Okay, so you're mapping the vocals here; fine, cool. But before this you had the super strong 00:52:776 (1,2,1,2) - drums mapped. This vocal slider is cutting into these drums, whereas you otherwise would have consistent 3/2 gaps after the large 1/2 jumps. And it's not just the rhythm that makes this feel so off; the entire 00:53:408 (1,2,3) - cursor motion makes it seem like a lot of emphasis is being placed on this slider, despite there being no instrumental to back that up, just a weak vocal. You could maybe stack this slider underneath 00:53:565 (2) - , because then the cursor still hovers in the same place, letting the impact of the drums linger, but I doubt you'd want that because then things wouldn't be symmetrical anymore. So, I highly advise you to delete this slider, I believe the overall experience will improve immensely. Applies to all similar areas. (And if you still want to keep it? Maybe at least drop SV some, 1.0x just for a weak vocal is really high imo)
01:00:829 (3) - You could make this symmetrical with 01:01:460 (5) - .
01:55:144 (3) - So you've created this large diagonal snapping motion with 01:54:671 (1,2) - , and then continue into a simple triangle here. But this feels more like a 1/1 jump because these are repeated sliders; you're losing a lot of energy. This is supposed to be buildup, I think you should move this slider down to, say, x:352 y:352 to keep that diagonal motion going. (Or you could move 01:54:671 (1) - to like the center of the screen or something)
02:49:618 (1,1,2,1) - It's pretty hard to tell that this is a 1/4 pattern, I tended to break off from the tails too early after realizing. Maybe try curving things like so to make it easier to abuse slider leniency? (oh, and NC 2 pls ty)
03:08:408 (2,3,4) - You sure about all this antiflowy stuff here? It's making 4 come out really weak, since 2,3 is the larger jump and there's more reliance on the slider leniency of 3 in the 3,4 jump.
03:26:881 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is a really hard snap to pull off, I think. How about trying this arrangement?
03:29:250 (10,1,2) - I think it'd be better if these were more evenly spaced, maybe align 1 so that it's symmetrical with 03:28:144 (1) - 's head?

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Frey's Insane

Like, I get that you need to compensate for spread balance and whatnot, but I really think you're skipping too many triplets. For example, 01:41:723 (3,1) - you could easily map the full triplet here and nobody would complain. I'm not going to pave through the whole diff and point out places, but I do suggest you reconsider a lot of your undermapping. (You even have this long 02:38:250 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - stream, so revising to add more triplets in early would help to keep this from coming off as a difficulty spike)

00:19:934 (1,2,3,4) - Could just be a square, or some other arrangement that doesn't leave 4 so awkwardly placed.
00:44:250 (2,3,4,5) - I think you should rearrange this so more emphasis is being placed on the high vocal of 5.
00:52:776 (1,2,1,2) - This is really lackluster, making these motions in a geometric pattern only really serves to make 00:53:408 (1) - feel really weak, since these are all near uniform in space. 02:00:987 (1,2,1,2) - is a better solution, because of the flow reversal, however I think with this second case, ctrl+g'ing 02:01:618 (1,2) - would make for the best solution; multiple flow reversals resulting in the player moving the same direction for the 1,2 jumps. Aim for stuff like this.
00:57:197 (3,4,1) - Right now this is an unrewarding straight line of varying speeds, try to rearrange to fix this. ctrl+> on 00:57:671 (1) - and reblanket would be an easy fix, but the flow might not be what you're looking for.
01:39:197 (4,1) - These are pretty close together, how about stacking 01:39:197 (4) - on 01:40:144 (3) - 's tail? If that makes the 3,4 jump too large, then I guess just try to find some other way to tidy this up idk
01:55:460 (4,1) - Are you sure you want the player to be cutting through this repeat slider to reach 1? Slider leniency causes this to feel like the player is lingering over the repeated tail instead of traveling the full body. I think this is better here.
02:12:829 (2,3,4) - Compared to the surrounding flow types, this type of antiflow comes off as jerky and unfitting. 02:13:302 (4,1) - could also use some flow reworks. Maybe this is a better solution? (I'm really bad with structured mapping, so maybe this isn't very good either, but it's certainly better than what you have here, imo)
03:30:355 (5,1) - hmm.. this is really unsatisfying finish imo, it doesn't feel like the player is snapping to 1, this comes across more as a curved motion. Try stacking 1 under 03:29:723 (2) - 's tail, or even its head, I think that would make for a better end to the song.

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Hyper

00:05:408 (3,4,1) - Think you could make the amount of sliderhead poking out the same for these sliders?
00:11:565 (2,3) - Blanketing here does look nice, but it's making 00:12:355 (1) - seem disjointed from the earlier objects, due to how the sliders aren't gesturing towards each other at all. See if you can revise your placements to make these seamless.
01:52:460 (2) - A lot of emphasis is being put on the third white tick in this measure, both the drums and the vocals are really sharp here, please revise to let the player click on this note.
02:02:881 (3) - ctrl+g, right now the 2,3 motion feels more jerky than anything; the 1,2 motion was really circular, to snap back here feels off.
02:43:302 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Wow, how can something so simple be so beautiful. I really love this, good job!
02:50:250 (2,1) - How about converting this into a 1/1 slider? I think right now things feel really empty after the 3/4 slider, you should really let things flow out of a huge rhythm change like that.

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Hard

00:12:671 (2,3,4) - Maybe this is a bit too sharp and straight? It's not really logical to expect the player to make a sharp angle off of a slidertail, when they can cut off so much earlier than that. I think making a little use of slider leniency and letting things curve out like this would be nicer, as well as being more connected to the next section.
00:29:408 (2,3,4) - This is coming off as really jerky.
00:35:408 (2,3,4) - Same as 00:12:671 (2,3,4) - .
01:47:723 (2,3) - Convert this into a slider to keep the amount of singletap in this slow part more consistent, letting the buildup slowly increase in singletap.

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Umi's Normal

00:40:144 (3,4,5,6) - This is probably more my own personal preference, but I think this is a huge increase in singletap from everything before this part, despite the song being much slower here. It would be much better imo if you tried to slow down how much clicking there is.
01:16:460 (4) - You could make this rhythm consistent with the later parts, if you want.
02:58:460 (2,3,4,5) - the 2,3 motion is a little jerky out of the 1,2 motion, and overall this is pretty cluttered. I think you should rework this part completely.
03:09:829 (4,5,1) - I think this arrangement would be better, it keeps 03:08:565 (2,3,5) - from being too cluttered (unless you were aiming for this, the motions you have here are really tight and fluid, so idk maybe this change is a bad idea)

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Easy

01:57:197 (1) - This completely overshadows 00:48:987 (1) - , like seriously please rework 00:48:987 (1) - so it's as well realized as this slider is.
02:42:355 (4,1) - This is pretty iffy. I'd prefer if the slider started a white tick later, so it's just the piano run, and this 4 note seems awkwardly placed. Basically, I think this rhythm's better.
03:29:408 (3) - yes please

Your problem solving skills are phenomenal, nearly every rhythm choice is absolutely perfect, like seriously this is such a good Easy diff, wow.

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pls mutual me cb-senpai o///o

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-07-29T06:39:45+00:00

Hi CB! From your m4m queue hehe. Great song choice <3

[Extra]

00:01:460 (4,5) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm. There's a really noticeable piano note on 00:01:776 - would be nice to make it clickable.
00:07:776 (5,6,7) - This stack is fine for symmetry, but you could try making this triplet linear to give some extra momentum going into 8.
Just an idea~
00:11:723 (5) - I think two circles would have worked better here. There is an audible drumhit on the slider end 00:11:881 - Try swapping the slider with one of your sets of circles. Maybe Ctrl+G 00:11:408 (3,4,5) - ?. Would make this rhythm more consistent with 00:13:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) -
00:35:408 (2,3,4) - I don't think you should use the same spacing here. There is clearly more emphasis onto slider 4, but it's the same spacing as 2>3
01:08:250 (2,3,4,5) - I would have stacked the circles on 2 and 3, and make 3>4>5 jumps so there is some motion attached to the vocals.
~
01:10:776 (2,3,4) - I really think emphasis here is on the wrong note. 3 isn't a strong beat by any means, but 4 is certainly emphasized. However the spacing you have here doesn't really reflect that. I think you had the right idea with: 01:09:197 (1,2,3,4) - .
01:36:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - This motion plays amazingly well! I wish you'd unstack more of your circles time to time. Your rhythm pattern from 01:36:987 - 01:45:829 - becomes rather repetitive. It's the same two 1/2 sliders > 2 circles > 1/2 slider pattern, so Just unstacking maybe one or two circles to give a different motion to the players would really keep this section interesting to play.
01:58:618 (1) - Lonely NC here lol. Try removing the NC from 01:58:776 (1) - and instead NC'ing on 01:59:092 (3) - .
02:11:092 (2,3) - This pattern is a bit jerky to play imo. The emphasis on 4 isn't noticeably stronger than on 2... but the slider-jump of 02:10:776 (6,1) - isn't really big plus it flows well. I don't see why 02:11:092 (2,3) - should be bigger + have a sharper angle. Try rotating 02:11:092 (2) - Like, 5 degrees? And do the same for 02:11:408 (4) - And then restack your pattern.
Something i tried.
02:36:829 (3,4) - Ahhh, I really encourage you to try and follow the piano instead of drums here because there's a really cool rhythm you can set up here that you can't anywhere else if you Ctrl+G these two obkects. Currently slider 4 begins on a really weak note but ends on a nice piano note.
02:47:092 (5,6) - I know this is your style, but how about unstacking these instead? There's a pitch increase here, and you've mapped jumps to every other piano note around this section.

[Frey's Insane]

00:13:460 (6,1) - A jump here would be nice.
00:28:618 (6,1) - A jump here could work too, you have circular momentum going for it anyways.
00:39:197 (2,3) - This jump felt out of place for me :C. You just entered into a calm section and then theres a jump onto a red-tick note ;c. Hmm, Maybe reposition 3? Because a jump from 3>4 would make sense xD.
00:51:513 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ehh... it's kinda weird to completely ignore all the 1/4 rhythm here. I think you should still map some of the triplets. Of course, you don't have to make this all streams and stuff, but this is a huge drop from Extra.
01:13:539 - Triplet here? It's the most audible one and both the drums + piano support it.
01:16:302 (5,6) - Having a jump here would be pretty cool too since 6 is a bit stronger. How about this. Ctrl+G 01:16:302 (5,6) - and then Ctrl+G 01:16:460 (6,7) - .
Would look like this~
01:30:039 (3,4,1) - This rhythm felt out of place for me D:. There are piano notes on 01:30:197 - 01:30:513 - too D:.
01:34:460 (1,2) - Could reduce the SV here for extra emphasis ;o.
02:14:881 (1,2,3) - I think a jump from 2>3 would fit the song better... 2 Isn't a strong beat...
02:21:671 (3,4) - Same as before, triplet here?
02:42:987 (2,3,4,5) - Kinda lame ignoring all the 1/4's here too ;c. How about using two 1/4 repeat sliders instead?
03:10:302 (5,1) - Jump here for emphasis? Maybe move 5 up a bit.
I think a bit more 1/4 usage would help with evening out the spread a bit more. It's not too serious imo, but more would definitely be nice.

[Hyper]

00:24:987 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - Ehh, I found this sudden drop in note density kind of weird... I think using some 1/1 is fine, but I think this is just too different from the rhythm you were using just earlier. It certainly doesn't provide any build up into the 1/4 rhythm pattern right after: 00:27:671 (2,3,4) -
00:48:987 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Woooow <3. I wish you used this same rhythm structure later, but this, ahh. It's so fun to play!
01:36:355 (2) - How about splitting this into two sliders instead?
01:55:934 (1,2,1) - I prefer having these sliders pointing downward instead of upward to give the player some visual flow. when they come out of slider 5.
~
02:12:355 (1,2,3) - Ehh, could you fix these blankets, 2>3 is especially off for me.
02:43:302 (1,2) - Not going to map 1/4's here?

[Hard]

00:47:723 (1,1) - Watch your stacks here .
01:16:460 (4,1) - Would be cool if you spaced them out instead of stacked them. Otherwise the NC doesn't really seem all that necessary since the entire circle is basically covered up. The only difference the player will see is a different colored approach circle and like 1/20th of the circle due to stacking.
01:50:881 (1) - You could remove the NC here cuz the previous combo was considerbly larger: 01:47:092 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
02:06:987 (4,1) - If it bothers you, these sliders aren't perfectly parallel .

[Umi's Normal]

00:14:250 (2,1) - This stack is kinda hard to read ;c.
00:40:144 (3,4,5,6) - This is actually quite dense for a calm section... You can tell because the # of objects in this combo is much higher than the 3-4 combo's you see during the verse section. Additionally, the circles are consecutive, not in between 1/1 sliders. I would make these circles sliders two 1/1 sliders instead.
01:42:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This combo is suddenly really dense with 1/2 rhythm... It feels really random, because if you compare it to your first Kiai section, you almost only use 1/1 rhythm... Like there are only 4 places in the 1st Kiai where you even use 1/2 rhythm .
01:52:144 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is also quite unexpected. I think a 1/1 slider would suit this better because if you keep it as it, it makes the next line 01:54:671 (1,2,3,4) - feel much too simple, and also creates a noticeable gap in difficulty.
02:51:671 (1) - I feel this spinner is a bit short for a Normal... Maybe a slider here would be better, but ehh you could get some more opinions on this as well. I spin at ~400 average and i only managed to get 2000, idk if thats normal lol...

I think this diff could benefit from more 1/2 rhythm usage, especially in the first and second Kiai. I mean, There are only 4 1/2 sliders in the first Kiai: 01:04:776 (2) - 01:07:302 (2) - 01:11:092 (3) - 01:16:460 (4) - . I think more would be better for balance, since you end up using a more reasonable amount of 1/2 rhythm as the map progressed.

[Easy]

00:27:197 - Wouldn't hurt to put a circle here.
01:42:987 - Here too, a circle wouldn't hurt.
02:11:092 (3) - How about moving this to 252||44 so theres more spacing between 02:11:092 (3,1) - . The current spacing is readable, but it's similar to the spacing you use for 2/1 gaps.
02:32:565 (1,1) - Hmm, I don't know if this is enough recovery time. Of course, spinner recovery is all subjective now, but since you do skip some beats and use 2/1 rhythm a lot, I think taking out 02:36:039 (1) - wouldn't hurt too much.

I noted some lack of 1/2 rhythm usage in Umi's Normal. If Umi decides to buff some of the rhythm in Normal, I think you could map some of the 2/1 gaps in the Easy to re-balance the spread. Either ways, the way you've set up the Easy, you have a lot of freedom to do spread-balancing if it becomes a problem in the future xD.

Great mapset!! ;o. Good luck with ranking! Let me know if you would like help pushing this forward later ;o.

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-29T18:37:22+00:00

UndeadCapulet wrote:
Frey's Insane
Like, I get that you need to compensate for spread balance and whatnot, but I really think you're skipping too many triplets. For example, 01:41:723 (3,1) - you could easily map the full triplet here and nobody would complain. I'm not going to pave through the whole diff and point out places, but I do suggest you reconsider a lot of your undermapping. (You even have this long 02:38:250 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - stream, so revising to add more triplets in early would help to keep this from coming off as a difficulty spike)
I don't think what I did is wrong, I follow the lyrics most of the time, and that's why I didn't use triples often. Triples are used to stress the instrument, and I don't think giving up clear stream and use triples is a good choice

00:19:934 (1,2,3,4) - Could just be a square, or some other arrangement that doesn't leave 4 so awkwardly placed.
it won't be a trouble when playing

00:44:250 (2,3,4,5) - I think you should rearrange this so more emphasis is being placed on the high vocal of 5.
no too much need to fix this, I don't think there need bigger spacing

00:52:776 (1,2,1,2) - This is really lackluster, making these motions in a geometric pattern only really serves to make 00:53:408 (1) - feel really weak, since these are all near uniform in space. 02:00:987 (1,2,1,2) - is a better solution, because of the flow reversal, however I think with this second case, ctrl+g'ing 02:01:618 (1,2) - would make for the best solution; multiple flow reversals resulting in the player moving the same direction for the 1,2 jumps. Aim for stuff like this.
If I want to fix, then I have to fix all the three parts. I think I need more suggestion about this, not really sure of this.

00:57:197 (3,4,1) - Right now this is an unrewarding straight line of varying speeds, try to rearrange to fix this. ctrl+> on 00:57:671 (1) - and reblanket would be an easy fix, but the flow might not be what you're looking for.
umm, I don't want to change this place really

01:39:197 (4,1) - These are pretty close together, how about stacking 01:39:197 (4) - on 01:40:144 (3) - 's tail? If that makes the 3,4 jump too large, then I guess just try to find some other way to tidy this up idk
ummmmm, not so necessary to fix it.

01:55:460 (4,1) - Are you sure you want the player to be cutting through this repeat slider to reach 1? Slider leniency causes this to feel like the player is lingering over the repeated tail instead of traveling the full body. I think this is better here.
I believe players won't get a miss cuz of this. btw, it's a regular Insane so I think the little jump won't be a trouble

02:12:829 (2,3,4) - Compared to the surrounding flow types, this type of antiflow comes off as jerky and unfitting. 02:13:302 (4,1) - could also use some flow reworks. Maybe this is a better solution? (I'm really bad with structured mapping, so maybe this isn't very good either, but it's certainly better than what you have here, imo)
no change sorry ;w;

03:30:355 (5,1) - hmm.. this is really unsatisfying finish imo, it doesn't feel like the player is snapping to 1, this comes across more as a curved motion. Try stacking 1 under 03:29:723 (2) - 's tail, or even its head, I think that would make for a better end to the song.
Fixed

monstrata wrote:
[Frey's Insane]
00:13:460 (6,1) - A jump here would be nice. not so necessary I guess
00:28:618 (6,1) - A jump here could work too, you have circular momentum going for it anyways. I don't want to give up this stack 00:27:829 (2,1) - ;w;
00:39:197 (2,3) - This jump felt out of place for me :C. You just entered into a calm section and then theres a jump onto a red-tick note ;c. Hmm, Maybe reposition 3? Because a jump from 3>4 would make sense xD.
fixed, using a slider instead
00:51:513 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ehh... it's kinda weird to completely ignore all the 1/4 rhythm here. I think you should still map some of the triplets. Of course, you don't have to make this all streams and stuff, but this is a huge drop from Extra.
;w; I thought it was 1/2, nvm
01:13:539 - Triplet here? It's the most audible one and both the drums + piano support it.
For consistency, I think I better not change this
01:16:302 (5,6) - Having a jump here would be pretty cool too since 6 is a bit stronger. How about this. Ctrl+G 01:16:302 (5,6) - and then Ctrl+G 01:16:460 (6,7) - .
after trying urs, I think mine is better
01:30:039 (3,4,1) - This rhythm felt out of place for me D:. There are piano notes on 01:30:197 - 01:30:513 - too D:. I follow he lyrics most of the time, so as you can see, I follow lyrics here
01:34:460 (1,2) - Could reduce the SV here for extra emphasis ;o. better not
02:14:881 (1,2,3) - I think a jump from 2>3 would fit the song better... 2 Isn't a strong beat...
you are right but I don't want to give the blanket
02:21:671 (3,4) - Same as before, triplet here? I didn't follow piano here so I think it's fine
02:42:987 (2,3,4,5) - Kinda lame ignoring all the 1/4's here too ;c. How about using two 1/4 repeat sliders instead? no, I follow drum this part, it's weird if I follow piano only this little part
03:10:302 (5,1) - Jump here for emphasis? Maybe move 5 up a bit. not sure,waiting for more suggetions

thanks for your mod!

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Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2015-07-29T20:10:13+00:00

Hello.

UndeadCapulet wrote:
From your queue:
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This map's pretty streamy, perhaps bump the OD up a little :V uuuh I prefer OD8 for this one, i don't really like to increase OD on easy maps.

00:00:987 (3,4) - aww, not gonna map the grace notes? i prefer the current pattern since i don't really hear anything exactly on the blue tick.
00:10:144 (3,4) - do a full ctrl+g, so it looks like this. I think this snaps into 00:10:776 (5) - better and makes for a nicer 00:10:460 (4,5,1,2) - motion. But if i do this, it will change the motion with the previous pattern, and i don't really like to use linear motion between 00:09:513 (4,1,4) -
00:11:408 (3,4) - Ehh, I'm not feeling the 1/2 tapping here, this kind of thing would be more fitting at 00:11:723 (5) - 's point on the timeline. Maybe try delete 4 and ctrl+h 3? Or just turn this into a slider idk This can work well, but it was my intention to use this pattern in order to vary pattern. If you can see the 2 next pattern, the stacked circles are on the 2 kicks. I just tired to vary pattern, and i don't really want to change my logic on it.
00:20:250 (2,3) - Maybe stack these so the "desu" is kept together? I can't find any solution to avoid flow breaking by using 2 stacked circles, and i also wanted to unstack these circle to emphasize vocals, it sounds better if you unstack them here.
00:48:513 (5) - I believe the piano starts at this point?? So how about NC'ing? Or rearrange your stream layout to show this piano off. Applies to all similar areas, such as 01:56:881 (5) - .Awh, unfortunately, following piano is not my first intention. If i were following piano your suggestion could be absolutely true, but, i tried something else to keep the consistency concerning the spacing change (they were inconsistent and it was not intentional o.o).
00:53:723 (3) - Yeah, let's talk about this for a bit, shall we? Okay, so you're mapping the vocals here; fine, cool. But before this you had the super strong 00:52:776 (1,2,1,2) - drums mapped. This vocal slider is cutting into these drums, whereas you otherwise would have consistent 3/2 gaps after the large 1/2 jumps. And it's not just the rhythm that makes this feel so off; the entire 00:53:408 (1,2,3) - cursor motion makes it seem like a lot of emphasis is being placed on this slider, despite there being no instrumental to back that up, just a weak vocal. You could maybe stack this slider underneath 00:53:565 (2) - , because then the cursor still hovers in the same place, letting the impact of the drums linger, but I doubt you'd want that because then things wouldn't be symmetrical anymore. So, I highly advise you to delete this slider, I believe the overall experience will improve immensely. Applies to all similar areas. (And if you still want to keep it? Maybe at least drop SV some, 1.0x just for a weak vocal is really high imo) uuuuuuuuh this is the most important pattern in that map, ~~and if someone tells me to change it i'll cut his head off~~, this slider works as an antijump, and this antijump follow nothing more than vocal that introduce the kiai's start. Stacking this slider on (2) will literally ruin the whole pattern in terms of gameplay because tacking 2 objects slowdowns, and an antijump is enough here. Concerning your suggestion about Slider velocity, it could be done, if you suggest it to other mappers they can take it. But i don't really want to lower the SV here, i just want to be simple, not complicated, i just want to make pattern easy to read.
01:00:829 (3) - You could make this symmetrical with 01:01:460 (5) - .doing this will ruin the diamond pattern, and the symmetry is not my intention here.
01:55:144 (3) - So you've created this large diagonal snapping motion with 01:54:671 (1,2) - , and then continue into a simple triangle here. But this feels more like a 1/1 jump because these are repeated sliders; you're losing a lot of energy. This is supposed to be buildup, I think you should move this slider down to, say, x:352 y:352 to keep that diagonal motion going. (Or you could move 01:54:671 (1) - to like the center of the screen or something) If i move to the 352|352 the distance between objects will be a little too large imo. Also, i don't really see why the player lose a lot of energy when there triples or reversed sliders. It slowdowns and allows the player to get recovery, and it will make the next pattern less stressful.
02:49:618 (1,1,2,1) - It's pretty hard to tell that this is a 1/4 pattern, I tended to break off from the tails too early after realizing. Maybe try curving things like so to make it easier to abuse slider leniency? (oh, and NC 2 pls ty) awh, nice. Done.
03:08:408 (2,3,4) - You sure about all this antiflowy stuff here? It's making 4 come out really weak, since 2,3 is the larger jump and there's more reliance on the slider leniency of 3 in the 3,4 jump. it's not really flow breaking here ;w; hte current motion is circular, and it plays well. I will see later what i can do here.
03:26:881 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is a really hard snap to pull off, I think. How about trying this arrangement? i don't really like the arrangement you suggested to me, because the motion is a plane motion (~~technical language at mechanics ;w;~~) and the player needs much aim to be able to handle these objects perfectly, i prefer to use angles to make this pattern easier to play.
03:29:250 (10,1,2) - I think it'd be better if these were more evenly spaced, maybe align 1 so that it's symmetrical with 03:28:144 (1) - 's head? lol you pointed out the only random object on this map, congratulations. I didn't really have any idea how to arrange this pattern, i even spent 1 hour on it omg. But i just found a solution (the current pattern) that plays well, but i don't really like it lol. I'll see later again if i can so something. But this current pattern plays well and i didn't really have problems when playing.

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Hyper
00:05:408 (3,4,1) - Think you could make the amount of sliderhead poking out the same for these sliders? i didn't get it ;w;
00:11:565 (2,3) - Blanketing here does look nice, but it's making 00:12:355 (1) - seem disjointed from the earlier objects, due to how the sliders aren't gesturing towards each other at all. See if you can revise your placements to make these seamless. i'll see later if i can do something here, but i don't really see any problems here tbh.
01:52:460 (2) - A lot of emphasis is being put on the third white tick in this measure, both the drums and the vocals are really sharp here, please revise to let the player click on this note. Here too, i don't really follow that stupid trend or theory of "passive and active hitsounds" or "make all white tick clicked", i consider reversed 1/2 like a simple 1/1 and i use a lot of 1/1 that ends on strong beats, i don't really see why i should change this pattern. If i want to emphasize all notes, i just can put 15412 circles but that's not my intention and that's a pain to put them
02:02:881 (3) - ctrl+g, right now the 2,3 motion feels more jerky than anything; the 1,2 motion was really circular, to snap back here feels off. awh no, i won't really like the angle here, tbh if you analyze how i map, i rarely or never use this kind of motion.
02:43:302 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Wow, how can something so simple be so beautiful. I really love this, good job! awh, thanks ;w;
02:50:250 (2,1) - How about converting this into a 1/1 slider? I think right now things feel really empty after the 3/4 slider, you should really let things flow out of a huge rhythm change like that. i just wanted to make the 2 kicks clicked for a better feeling when playing, i don't really want to change into a 1/1 slider here because it might be confusing with the previous 3/4 slider i used because as you can see, i increased the SV for this 3/4 slider.

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Hard
00:12:671 (2,3,4) - Maybe this is a bit too sharp and straight? It's not really logical to expect the player to make a sharp angle off of a slidertail, when they can cut off so much earlier than that. I think making a little use of slider leniency and letting things curve out like this would be nicer, as well as being more connected to the next section. done.
00:29:408 (2,3,4) - This is coming off as really jerky. awh i don't really find it jerky ;w;
00:35:408 (2,3,4) - Same as 00:12:671 (2,3,4) - .done.
01:47:723 (2,3) - Convert this into a slider to keep the amount of singletap in this slow part more consistent, letting the buildup slowly increase in singletap. done.
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Easy
01:57:197 (1) - This completely overshadows 00:48:987 (1) - , like seriously please rework 00:48:987 (1) - so it's as well realized as this slider is. done.
02:42:355 (4,1) - This is pretty iffy. I'd prefer if the slider started a white tick later, so it's just the piano run, and this 4 note seems awkwardly placed. Basically, I think this rhythm's better. following snares is the priority, i always keep the same pattern, i mean i put the circle on the snare, i don't really want to change it. And the long slider is the new combo, i don't really want to start a new combo with a circle and them a long slider.
03:29:408 (3) - yes please lol

Your problem solving skills are phenomenal, nearly every rhythm choice is absolutely perfect, like seriously this is such a good Easy diff, wow. awh thank you ;w;

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pls mutual me cb-senpai o///o uuuuh

monstrata wrote:
Hi CB! From your m4m queue hehe. Great song choice <3 eeeeeh :3

[Extra]

00:01:460 (4,5) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm. There's a really noticeable piano note on 00:01:776 - would be nice to make it clickable. uuuh i don't really like to start a slider on a red tick because i consider downbeats stronger than red ticks on this song, and following piano is not my first intention (if i were following piano i just would use default soft-hitwhistle for them)
00:07:776 (5,6,7) - This stack is fine for symmetry, but you could try making this triplet linear to give some extra momentum going into 8.
Just an idea~
uuuh the distance between them is enough large, and making a triplet linear will make the current pattern difficult to play, and that's enough difficult imo.
00:11:723 (5) - I think two circles would have worked better here. There is an audible drumhit on the slider end 00:11:881 - Try swapping the slider with one of your sets of circles. Maybe Ctrl+G 00:11:408 (3,4,5) - ?. Would make this rhythm more consistent with 00:13:618 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - as i said above (previous mod) : "This can work well, but it was my intention to use this pattern in order to vary pattern. If you can see the 2 next pattern, the stacked circles are on the 2 kicks. I just tired to vary pattern, and i don't really want to change my logic on it."
00:35:408 (2,3,4) - I don't think you should use the same spacing here. There is clearly more emphasis onto slider 4, but it's the same spacing as 2>3 yea you're right but if i change the spacing between 2-3 this will ruin the pattern's flow, and also, i don't really respect all emphasis, i keep a certain freedom.
01:08:250 (2,3,4,5) - I would have stacked the circles on 2 and 3, and make 3>4>5 jumps so there is some motion attached to the vocals.
~
your idea works very well, but as you can see and hear, i always stack circles that folow the 2 kick sounds you can hear, there are exceptions when there is a slider instead, but when i only use circles i stack them, i don't really know how to explain, but i can't really change this and change my mind.
01:10:776 (2,3,4) - I really think emphasis here is on the wrong note. 3 isn't a strong beat by any means, but 4 is certainly emphasized. However the spacing you have here doesn't really reflect that. I think you had the right idea with: 01:09:197 (1,2,3,4) - . yea you're right, changed.
01:36:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - This motion plays amazingly well! I wish you'd unstack more of your circles time to time. Your rhythm pattern from 01:36:987 - 01:45:829 - becomes rather repetitive. It's the same two 1/2 sliders > 2 circles > 1/2 slider pattern, so Just unstacking maybe one or two circles to give a different motion to the players would really keep this section interesting to play. The issue is that i respect consistency with every patterns i can't really make various things ;w;
01:58:618 (1) - Lonely NC here lol. Try removing the NC from 01:58:776 (1) - and instead NC'ing on 01:59:092 (3) - . awh a little mistake, fixed.
02:11:092 (2,3) - This pattern is a bit jerky to play imo. The emphasis on 4 isn't noticeably stronger than on 2... but the slider-jump of 02:10:776 (6,1) - isn't really big plus it flows well. I don't see why 02:11:092 (2,3) - should be bigger + have a sharper angle. Try rotating 02:11:092 (2) - Like, 5 degrees? And do the same for 02:11:408 (4) - And then restack your pattern. hmm, the spacing change is intentional, i don't really care about emphasis, the spacing change is used to make this stream part difficult like it should be, compared to the previous section. I mean, the atmosphere.
Something i tried.
02:36:829 (3,4) - Ahhh, I really encourage you to try and follow the piano instead of drums here because there's a really cool rhythm you can set up here that you can't anywhere else if you Ctrl+G these two obkects. Currently slider 4 begins on a really weak note but ends on a nice piano note. i don't really have any idea how to follow piano here, the priority is kicks and snares, and i don't really want to use circles instead of these sliders, and i don't really want to change the structure because it will be difficult to keep something that looks like the current pattern, i mean the placement. (yea nearly everything is intentional and thoughtful on my maps, that's why i spend a lot of time on them ;w;) i'll see later how to arrange it, maybe...
02:47:092 (5,6) - I know this is your style, but how about unstacking these instead? There's a pitch increase here, and you've mapped jumps to every other piano note around this section. As i said above, the priority is kicks and snares, and also i always stacked the 2 kicks sounds, and i really want to keep consistency in my maps.

[Hyper]

00:24:987 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - Ehh, I found this sudden drop in note density kind of weird... I think using some 1/1 is fine, but I think this is just too different from the rhythm you were using just earlier. It certainly doesn't provide any build up into the 1/4 rhythm pattern right after: 00:27:671 (2,3,4) - yes you're right but i personally don't think that 1/2 on the calm part fits, because it's an hyper diff and things must be more simple than an Insane diff. I'll see later what i can do...
00:48:987 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Woooow <3. I wish you used this same rhythm structure later, but this, ahh. It's so fun to play! => i thought there was a lot of fine ladies in my bedroom when i was mapping ;w;
01:36:355 (2) - How about splitting this into two sliders instead? Yea i had this idea before, but i just realised that 2 kick sliders could be stressful for the player when there are just 1/1 earlier, so i just decided to keep only 1 kick slider, i prefer to keep the current pattern ;w;
01:55:934 (1,2,1) - I prefer having these sliders pointing downward instead of upward to give the player some visual flow. when they come out of slider 5. changed, but i did something else (a zigzag with these kick sliders)
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02:12:355 (1,2,3) - Ehh, could you fix these blankets, 2>3 is especially off for me. lol you, fixed.
02:43:302 (1,2) - Not going to map 1/4's here? piano is weaker here and i prefer to follow the stronger notes, and i don't really want to change this pattern or i will get mad ;w;
[Hard]

00:47:723 (1,1) - Watch your stacks here . wuut ? they are perfectly stacked ;w;
01:16:460 (4,1) - Would be cool if you spaced them out instead of stacked them. Otherwise the NC doesn't really seem all that necessary since the entire circle is basically covered up. The only difference the player will see is a different colored approach circle and like 1/20th of the circle due to stacking. fixed all.
01:50:881 (1) - You could remove the NC here cuz the previous combo was considerbly larger: 01:47:092 (1,2,3,4,5) - . done.
02:06:987 (4,1) - If it bothers you, these sliders aren't perfectly parallel . omg you ;w; , fixed.

[Easy]

00:27:197 - Wouldn't hurt to put a circle here. i'll see later if i put a circle here, but the density will be a little too much. I'll see with it later.
01:42:987 - Here too, a circle wouldn't hurt. same as ^
02:11:092 (3) - How about moving this to 252||44 so theres more spacing between 02:11:092 (3,1) - . The current spacing is readable, but it's similar to the spacing you use for 2/1 gaps. done
02:32:565 (1,1) - Hmm, I don't know if this is enough recovery time. Of course, spinner recovery is all subjective now, but since you do skip some beats and use 2/1 rhythm a lot, I think taking out 02:36:039 (1) - wouldn't hurt too much. yea, but (1) is currently on a note that, to me, is really impossible to skip and it sounds really weird when you don't folow it, i'll see with that later.
I noted some lack of 1/2 rhythm usage in Umi's Normal. If Umi decides to buff some of the rhythm in Normal, I think you could map some of the 2/1 gaps in the Easy to re-balance the spread. Either ways, the way you've set up the Easy, you have a lot of freedom to do spread-balancing if it becomes a problem in the future xD. uuuuuuuh Easy doesn't need more difficulty, note that the BPM is 190 and it is really fast for beginners ;w;

Great mapset!! ;o. Good luck with ranking! Let me know if you would like help pushing this forward later ;o. awh thanks :3

Thanks for modding, even if i almost denied everything because i'm so mean with modders ;w;
Updated Frey's diff

Last edited by Cherry Blossom 2015-07-31T17:30:20+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Bara-

11,961 posts

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2015-07-30T14:50:28+00:00

M4M from your queue

[General]
Hmm, weird dimensions foa BG, being 1062x600
Time to ask good old Ringating I think

Widescreen support? But there is no SB, uncheck it
Also add 1000 AudioLeadIn, as the first note is at 987, this way players have around 2sec
Spread (N-H) might be a bit large. Normal uses barely any 1/2, while Hard does use them quite a lot, in circles. I think it's still fine, but IMO it doesn't hurt to add a little more 1/2 in normal
Set offset 4 beats earlier, Frey's Insane and Extra start before the offset

[Easy]

00:16:144 (1) - Please make it a little curvy to increase the flow
00:38:881 (1) - ^^
00:41:408 (1) - ^^
01:09:197 (1) - Having this at somewhere around 300:240 makes it flow much better as you can keep the circular movement (removes symmetry tho
01:34:144 - Add a circle to follow vocals better. Also, it's 1/1, so it should be fine for difficulty
01:57:197 (1) - <3
02:09:829 (1,2,3) - I'm not sure if this sudden triangle would work well, for flow. I think it's best to have (3) at somewhere near 376:88 for better and more natural movement (no strong curves)
02:16:144 (2,3,1) - ^^, try 352:96 for (1)
02:36:039 (1) - Might be too fast after the spinner, I once read it's recommended to have +- 4 beats between spinner and note in easy, and this is a rather high BPM song, so I think you should stick to that
02:59:092 (3,4,1) - Same as above, with the triangle, (1) at 340:88 feels best for me
03:21:829 (2,3,1) - ^^, (1) at 396:112 feels best

Nice diff :3

[Umi's Normal]

00:14:250 (2,3) - Fix blanket please
00:18:671 (1) - This should be better, following the movement from the previous and next slider that this should be curve (grey node at 214:166 for example let's it flow better)
02:07:302 (1,4) - minor - The overlap is rather weird as the head is covered by the tail. It's only shortly, so I think it's fine, but it never hurts to change it right?
02:24:671 (4,5) - This might be a little too hard, as the hardest thing in this map (so far) is a 1/2 slider following a circle, not a 1/2 doublet. Better make it a slider, just as in 01:16:460 (4) -
02:57:829 (1,2,3,4,5) - Mapping only a small part might be to confusing due to the breaks around it

Good diff in general, but it feels very easy. Consider adding a few more 1/2

[Hard]

00:19:776 - The vocals here are really powerful, consider adding a circle here
02:30:039 - Consider adding a break here

Better rename this to PERFECT DIFF
Strangely enough, this diff makes me think of Gero, the one who IMO is the best "Hard" mapper there is, good job CB :3

[Hyper]

00:05:408 (3) - This feels a bit weird, as there is no sound at 00:05:487, consider making it a circle+triplet
00:39:355 - In the whole slow part, you still follow voalcs and map 1/2, then why not map this as well?
00:48:039 (2,1) - The change of movement (Horizontal --> Vertical) is a bit awkward IMO, consider making (1) horizontal too
01:13:539 - Consider adding a circle here to follow the drum and the other sound
02:21:750 - ^^
03:00:355 (1) - A simple 2/1 slider feels a bit bland. Why not make it 1/1, or follow the vocals here?
03:03:355 (3) - Did you forgot the NC here, as you did in 00:48:987 (1) - and 01:57:671 (1) - ? Same applies for 03:03:829 (6) -

Great diff :3

[Frey's Insane]

00:02:092 (6,7,1) - Consider custom-stacking these as well, just as 00:00:829 (1,2,3) -
00:18:592 - Add circle frum drumroll
00:27:829 (2,3,4,5,6) - Not a problem with the notes here, but consider adding some more notes to follow the drum
00:49:934 (1) - I find it weird this has lower spacing, then for example 00:49:460 (2) - , despite this having a NC, while (2) has not
01:57:671 (2,1) - ^^
02:23:250 (4) - The jump here makes little sense IMO, just Ctrl G 02:23:250 (4,5) - for even spacing (This also flows better IMO)
03:17:565 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - It might be me, but this stream looks a bit messed up. Try redoing it with Ctrl Shift F (Convert slider to stream)

Okay, it's a neat diff, but things like 03:27:197 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - feel heavily undermapped, considering some lower diffs do map this (with reverse arrows)

[Extra]
Consider highing AR to 9.3

00:19:302 (4) - Ctrl G, movement feels more natural IMO
00:46:460 (1) - I find it weird you start this stream part with a reverse slider. Why not make a stacked stream (on top of 00:46:776 (2) - ?)
00:51:513 (1) - ^^
02:02:881 (3) - Cosider curving it a little for better flow
02:32:565 (1) - <3
02:50:250 (2) - NC, for the start of a new part, and because 02:51:197 (6) - shouldn't be in a combo with 02:50:092 (1) - because the music is so different

Such a great diff, awesome flow!
Have a star!
Good luck!

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2015-07-30T15:59:36+00:00

yo pour ta ~~queue~~file

[Easy]

00:07:618 (1) - Je ne comprends pas trop ce NC, ça casse la consistence avec 00:04:144 (4) -
00:41:408 (1) - apparaît avant que 00:38:881 (1) - finisse, et sont vraiment très près l'un de l'autre, je pense que ça peut porter à confusion les nouveaux joueurs
01:47:092 (1,3) - ici aussi, moins évident mais toujours bon à signaler

[Umi's Normal]

00:55:302 (3,2) - Cet overlap n'est pas très méchant mais je pense que ça serait mieux de l'éviter
01:38:250 (3,1) - ^
A part ça c'est plutôt bien, le seul reproche que je pourrais faire c'est que je suis pas trop d'accord avec les stacks comme 01:04:144 (1,3) - ou 03:19:934 (5,1) - , ils peuvent facilement porter à confusion et sont peut-être un peu trop durs à lire à ce niveau

[Hard]

C'est sûrement moi, mais je trouve cette diff vraiment difficile à lire, je sais pas si c'est l'AR ou le mapping, mais il y pas mal d'endroits qui jouaient bizarrement. Essaie AR7, ça semble jouer mieux comme ça
01:53:092 (3,1) - overlap nazi

[Hyper]

00:51:513 (3) - NC ? (tu as un NC à 00:51:513 (3) - )
02:50:250 (2,1) - Swap NC pour le changement de rythme et nouvelle mesure?

[Frey's Insane]

I actually FC'd this on my first try lol, nice map, nothing to say

[Extra]

Apprend-moi à map stp

Très bon comme d'hab, dépêche-toi de rank ça que je me fasse quelques pp

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-31T08:35:38+00:00

baraatje123 wrote:
[Frey's Insane]
00:02:092 (6,7,1) - Consider custom-stacking these as well, just as 00:00:829 (1,2,3) -
Fixed
00:18:592 - Add circle frum drumroll Fixed
00:27:829 (2,3,4,5,6) - Not a problem with the notes here, but consider adding some more notes to follow the drum
better not, they can be regarded as 1/2 as well
00:49:934 (1) - I find it weird this has lower spacing, then for example 00:49:460 (2) - , despite this having a NC, while (2) has not
01:57:671 (2,1) - ^^
it is, but it's hard to change so I would keep it
02:23:250 (4) - The jump here makes little sense IMO, just Ctrl G 02:23:250 (4,5) - for even spacing (This also flows better IMO)
Fixed
03:17:565 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - It might be me, but this stream looks a bit messed up. Try redoing it with Ctrl Shift F (Convert slider to stream)
ummm, waiting for more suggestion about this, cuz I can fc this stream easily
Okay, it's a neat diff, but things like 03:27:197 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - feel heavily undermapped, considering some lower diffs do map this (with reverse arrows)
well, I don't think there is any problem in this part. It's an regular Insane, why I can't have such suitable things?

Thanks for your modding！

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Cherry Blossom

3,185 posts

Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

Cherry Blossom 2015-07-31T19:17:03+00:00

I'll reply soon.
Updated Frey's diff.

Umi

2,478 posts

Joined November 2012

Umi 2015-08-02T13:28:52+00:00

UndeadCapulet wrote:
Umi's Normal
00:40:144 (3,4,5,6) - This is probably more my own personal preference, but I think this is a huge increase in singletap from everything before this part, despite the song being much slower here. It would be much better imo if you tried to slow down how much clicking there is. ok fixed
01:16:460 (4) - You could make this rhythm consistent with the later parts, if you want. nop i want some diversity
02:58:460 (2,3,4,5) - the 2,3 motion is a little jerky out of the 1,2 motion, and overall this is pretty cluttered. I think you should rework this part completely. i don' think so, i don't get what the problem here
03:09:829 (4,5,1) - I think this arrangement would be better, it keeps 03:08:565 (2,3,5) - from being too cluttered (unless you were aiming for this, the motions you have here are really tight and fluid, so idk maybe this change is a bad idea) k

baraatje123 wrote:
[Umi's Normal]
00:14:250 (2,3) - Fix blanket please fixed
00:18:671 (1) - This should be better, following the movement from the previous and next slider that this should be curve (grey node at 214:166 for example let's it flow better)kay
02:07:302 (1,4) - minor - The overlap is rather weird as the head is covered by the tail. It's only shortly, so I think it's fine, but it never hurts to change it right?it doesn't bother the gameplay
02:24:671 (4,5) - This might be a little too hard, as the hardest thing in this map (so far) is a 1/2 slider following a circle, not a 1/2 doublet. Better make it a slider, just as in 01:16:460 (4) - fixed
02:57:829 (1,2,3,4,5) - Mapping only a small part might be to confusing due to the breaks around it i'll consider if i got othger reflexion.
Good diff in general, but it feels very easy. Consider adding a few more 1/2 i tried to add some

Alheak wrote:
[Umi's Normal]
00:55:302 (3,2) - Cet overlap n'est pas très méchant mais je pense que ça serait mieux de l'éviter kk
01:38:250 (3,1) - ^ celui la ne se voit pas en jeu
A part ça c'est plutôt bien, le seul reproche que je pourrais faire c'est que je suis pas trop d'accord avec les stacks comme 01:04:144 (1,3) - ou 03:19:934 (5,1) - , ils peuvent facilement porter à confusion et sont peut-être un peu trop durs à lire à ce niveau si j'ai d'autre reflexion je changerai peut etre

thx for mod guys

diff

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TitleUnicode:ヤキモチの答え
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153,264,139934,6,0,P|136:339|141:368,2,100,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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104,220,157618,6,0,P|111:168|100:93,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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302,16,158881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
369,89,159197,2,0,L|361:194,1,100,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,263,159829,1,8,0:0:0:0:
226,189,160144,6,0,P|172:181|117:200,1,100,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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102,32,161250,1,2,0:0:0:0:
181,92,161565,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,96,161881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,36,162197,2,0,P|411:78|427:123,1,100,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
418,157,162671,6,0,P|392:204|393:263,1,100,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,324,163302,1,8,0:0:0:0:
260,246,163618,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,260,163934,2,0,L|166:309,2,50,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,210,164408,2,0,P|162:163|197:121,1,100,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,123,165039,1,8,0:0:0:0:
294,123,165197,6,0,P|357:132|406:119,2,100,6|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,90,166144,1,8,0:0:0:0:
121,152,166460,2,0,P|121:187|132:267,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,283,167092,2,0,P|237:243|248:176,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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452,80,168197,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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314,246,169302,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,171671,12,4,172776,0:0:0:0:
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347,217,178460,1,2,0:0:0:0:
424,153,178776,1,2,0:0:0:0:
347,217,179092,2,0,P|347:265|353:316,2,100,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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180,68,182881,6,0,P|199:132|192:228,1,150,6|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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391,95,190144,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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