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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 08 Juni 2016 at 23:16:29

Artist: typeMARS
Title: Triumph & Regret
Source: Dynamix
Tags: Zyon 載音 Rhythm Game Marathon Lucky Lotus & Touitsu Recordings - Dawn of the Sol - Day Three Indonesia Doujin Music Circle
BPM: 175
Filesize: 8821kb
Play Time: 05:18
Difficulties Available:
  1. Regret - 4Key (5,42 stars, 3853 notes)
  2. Triumph - 4Key (4,12 stars, 3202 notes)
Download: typeMARS - Triumph & Regret
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Triumph & Regret
composed by typeMARS

there is two diffs included here, if you want to enjoy the map but can't play regret diff
you can go play with triumph diff instead (:


You can follow the composer twitter ==> click
and the soundcloud page for more music ==> click

Please do not re-upload this song, unless you already have the composer's permission

Big Thanks Dude !
  1. -SoraGami- for testplay 5 stars wheeeeaaahhh \o/ thanks honey owo)
  2. NlHIL for mod and 2 stars owo)
  3. Critical_Star for testplay, mod and a star owo)
  4. C r a c k for a star owo)
  5. Evening for testplay, mod and give me some advice owo)
  6. Kyousuke- for testplay and mod owo)
  7. Pizza for a star owo)
  8. Ridwan-sama for testplay and a star owo)
  9. SanadaYukimura for testplay and mod owo)
  10. Kuro Izaya for a mod owo)
  11. DoNotMess for testplay and mod owo)
  12. -BANGKE- for testplay and a star owo)
  13. Raveille for testplay and a star owo)
  14. Cipse for a star owo)
  15. doykyoto for a star owo)
  16. Hamids- for a star owo)
  17. arcwinolivirus for a mod and star owo)
  18. Baim, ExKagii-, Raediaufar and many more that i forget to remember their name XD thanks for testplaying this map too
  19. Kuo Kyoka for testplay, give me 2 stars, and #1 bubble owo)b
  20. Fresh Chicken for testplay and #2 bubble owo)b
  21. Feerum for testplay and #FLAMEEE owo)b
  22. And YOU that favourite and playing this map OwO)7

SpectorDG
Welcome to shitmap
Ibrahim
GOD DAMN THIS MAP IT"S TO EASY <3333333
Kyousuke-
PP FARM MAP CONFIRMED

dat burst lmao
*fun fact : without burst ~4.30 star

nice map =w=b rank pls lolol
-SoraGami-
Take my stars xD
Awesome map!
Topic Starter
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lol
i don't want to left those 1/8 sound . . . since this only 1 diff

and pls i map that so natural :v
so . . . i don't think about pp in hard map or something like that

i map this song for happiness XD

-SoraGami- wrote:

Take my stars xD
Awesome map!
OH MY GOD . . 5 STARS !!!
thank you very much Sora . . . . XD XD
-SoraGami-
man ._. i really love those bursts <3 really...
Topic Starter
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-SoraGami- wrote:

man ._. i really love those bursts <3 really...
actually i point that to kyousuke . . . lol i forgot to click quote
XD
NlHIL
Take my star ;w;
[GravitoN]
00:46:762 - add to 4?
00:50:876 - ^
00:52:248 - ^ 1
01:38:876 - 03:06:648 - 05:07:334 - ^
02:09:219 (129219|3,129219|2,129219|1,129391|1,129391|2,129391|3) - move to 02:09:305 - ?
Topic Starter
[ A v a l o n ]
Revived with new pattern
KH_Supernova
99.28% ... If only it were rank ~
Very good beatmap anyway :D
Topic Starter
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KH_Supernova wrote:

99.28% ... If only it were rank ~
Very good beatmap anyway :D
thank you, will try to rank this someday ^ ^
KH_Supernova
Great ! :D I hope you will succeed \o/

This beatmap has no place in pendings ! xD
Critical_Star
Hi Avolon!
m4m~
column 1 2 3 4
just a quick check :p

Regret
00:22:848 - 00:25:591 - add a note? like 00:24:219 (24219|1) - :v
00:26:962 (26962|0,26962|1) - random double note? i guess is the same as the previous blue tick part too
00:31:076 - i think it could be nice if u can add a note for all these sound here! it play nicely~ 00:33:819 (33819|1) - macam ni la "v
00:36:562 - and so on if u like~
00:37:848 (37848|0,37848|1,37934|2,37934|3,38019|0,38019|1,38105|2,38105|3,38191|1,38191|0) - hmm, is it me or i feel this double trill kinda odd? :/ 00:38:019 (38019|1,38019|0) - maybe this could be single note if u are focusing the main chord :>
00:42:048 - add a note?
01:02:791 - 01:02:962 - judging your pattern flow here, i guess u can add a note here
01:16:934 (76934|1,77105|2,77619|1,77791|2) - CTRL+H? when changing flow, swap hand play
01:18:305 (78305|2,78476|1,78991|1,79162|2) - ^ like this too and so on if u accept :>
02:32:276 (152276|0,152362|1) - CTRL+G? would be much more comfortable to hit
02:50:019 (170019|3,170019|2) - move to the left by 1? it fit the sound better here, ascending pitch
02:56:448 - i think for this part u miss out this sound here, should be double like u do at 03:08:791 (188791|0,188791|3) - double for all these sound could be nice~
03:10:162 - miss this intention"?
03:12:905 - add? refer 03:14:276 (194276|3) -
03:16:934 (196934|0,196934|1,196976|3,197019|0,197019|2,197062|1,197105|3,197105|2,197148|0,197191|1,197191|3,197234|2,197276|0,197276|1,197319|3,197362|0,197362|2,197405|1,197448|2,197448|3,197491|0,197534|3,197534|1,197576|2,197619|0,197619|1) - jangan la qwq
04:13:762 - add?

woooo good luck~ *star*
Topic Starter
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Critical_Star wrote:

Hi Avolon!
m4m~
column 1 2 3 4
just a quick check :p

Regret
00:22:848 - 00:25:591 - add a note? like 00:24:219 (24219|1) - :v that part is actually different :v
00:26:962 (26962|0,26962|1) - random double note? i guess is the same as the previous blue tick part too emm nope, it contains big synth here :'v sice i mapped 2 note mostly for synth, so it's okay imo
00:31:076 - i think it could be nice if u can add a note for all these sound here! it play nicely~ 00:33:819 (33819|1) - macam ni la "v
00:36:562 - and so on if u like~ i mostly following "synth party" la XD so i mapped to be focused on that
00:37:848 (37848|0,37848|1,37934|2,37934|3,38019|0,38019|1,38105|2,38105|3,38191|1,38191|0) - hmm, is it me or i feel this double trill kinda odd? :/ 00:38:019 (38019|1,38019|0) - maybe this could be single note if u are focusing the main chord :> aww yea, that's really weird . . . re-arranged
00:42:048 - add a note? okay, good one
01:02:791 - 01:02:962 - judging your pattern flow here, i guess u can add a note here i didn't hear anything like 01:02:105 (62105|0,62276|3,62448|2) - in here ;w;
01:16:934 (76934|1,77105|2,77619|1,77791|2) - CTRL+H? when changing flow, swap hand play good
01:18:305 (78305|2,78476|1,78991|1,79162|2) - ^ like this too and so on if u accept :> alright, applied :>
02:32:276 (152276|0,152362|1) - CTRL+G? would be much more comfortable to hit hmm, i feel no lol
02:50:019 (170019|3,170019|2) - move to the left by 1? it fit the sound better here, ascending pitch re-arranged XD
02:56:448 - i think for this part u miss out this sound here, should be double like u do at 03:08:791 (188791|0,188791|3) - double for all these sound could be nice~ okay, feels good
03:10:162 - miss this intention"? nothing lol
03:12:905 - add? refer 03:14:276 (194276|3) - that part is actually different song pace
03:16:934 (196934|0,196934|1,196976|3,197019|0,197019|2,197062|1,197105|3,197105|2,197148|0,197191|1,197191|3,197234|2,197276|0,197276|1,197319|3,197362|0,197362|2,197405|1,197448|2,197448|3,197491|0,197534|3,197534|1,197576|2,197619|0,197619|1) - jangan la qwq boleh la qwq
04:13:762 - add? it's different like 04:15:134 - so maybe keep

woooo good luck~ *star*
Thanks CS for mod and star >///<
Evening
Just going to give some comments on certain section, apologies in advance if I type too much :p

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Regret

Pretty neat song, really like trance personally

One thing I have noticed about most trance maps is that they tend to get slightly repetitive and the chart doesn't really give much variation, but it as expected as the music is quite repetitive as well. Felt that this map is rather bland in terms of how it's structured, however I think the map generally plays fine.

00:00:905 (905|1,1076|0) - I think it'd be more suited to the cowbell sound effect if you had both of them on the same column, felt that this 1/4 swing rhythm could be emphasized more if you did that, just a suggestion. This applies for all similar patterns

00:21:391 - With reference to the later parts of the map, I think you're catering to a more higher caliber 4k player here, I personally would suggest to have a more complicated 1/8 burst in that case for the more aggressive snare burst here:


00:49:162 (49162|2,49162|0,49505|3,49505|1) - Could have done 3-noters for the background synth here to emphasize it
01:00:134 (60134|3,60134|1,60476|3,60476|0) - Similarly

01:04:248 (64248|0,64334|1,64419|0,64505|1,64591|0,64676|1,64719|0,64848|1,64891|0) - If you're targeting a lower caliber player than that of players who can actually do this 04:11:791 - perfectly, then I'd suggest to not have this trill transition as it kinda forces the player to trill for quite a long time on the left hand (inclusive of the {14}{23} pattern before) and trill even faster for a very short section here to transition into the 43214321 roll

01:05:276 (65276|3) - Same suggestion as 00:21:391 -

01:11:448 - Not a fan of this pattern to go with the piano here, consider something less simplistic
01:22:419 - Similarly

01:27:391 (87391|2,87391|3,87562|0,87562|1) - Suggesting to Ctrl+H this, personally feel that {12}{34}{12}{34} 1/2 trills aren't that great to match a build up in the track here considering how easy it is to players at this level

01:47:791 (107791|3,107791|0,107962|2,107962|0) - Think you can emphasize these snares better if you would to concentrate them on either {12} or {34} as a 2 noter

01:49:848 (109848|0,110105|1) - Heavily recommend to have these 2 at the same column as they are the same pitch, this applies to everything similar in this section

01:55:848 (115848|0,116105|0) - Not really sure if there's a solid reason on why you hammered these but the 2nd note should be on a different column (it is the same pitch as the ones that I have told you to hammer before), this applies to everything similar

02:11:105 - same thing as before

03:16:934 - Yeeaaa no thanks fam, that's a 262.5 BPM 1/4 jumptrill which is way out of reach for players you're targeting right here, it's out of reach for me to hit comfortably even, so you see where this is going. Suggesting the more complicated 1/8 instead of just a 350 dense JS

03:19:676 (199676|3,200019|3) - Not really even sure if you're intending to go for PR so I think i'll just stop

04:11:791 - no thanks fam

04:35:876 (275876|1,275876|0,276048|2) - Same with what I have pointed out earlier, I think you can emphasize this 1/4 beat swing better if you had 2 notes on the same column

04:55:676 - Same idea as previously

04:57:134 (297134|1,297219|0,297305|2) - mmm not sure about having a note on 1/2 snap here, think it's fine with just the 1st and 3rd note and having them on the same column for the 1/4 swing, but it is also fine as it is acting as a transition from the more streamy parts previously, up to you I guess

05:17:619 - Same idea as previously

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Don't really feel like playing through the easier difficulty haha, mostly due to laziness xp
Topic Starter
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Evening wrote:

Just going to give some comments on certain section, apologies in advance if I type too much :p

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Regret

Pretty neat song, really like trance personally wohoo . . . me too <3

One thing I have noticed about most trance maps is that they tend to get slightly repetitive and the chart doesn't really give much variation, but it as expected as the music is quite repetitive as well. Felt that this map is rather bland in terms of how it's structured, however I think the map generally plays fine. thank you :3

00:00:905 (905|1,1076|0) - I think it'd be more suited to the cowbell sound effect if you had both of them on the same column, felt that this 1/4 swing rhythm could be emphasized more if you did that, just a suggestion. This applies for all similar patterns i mapped just like that too in first time haha . . . hmmm yea, i think you are right, re-arranged this part

00:21:391 - With reference to the later parts of the map, I think you're catering to a more higher caliber 4k player here, I personally would suggest to have a more complicated 1/8 burst in that case for the more aggressive snare burst here: yea, but if just for an opening on this part . . . i think it no need to be a complicated burst in first time . . . will try this suggestion on middle part of song xP


00:49:162 (49162|2,49162|0,49505|3,49505|1) - Could have done 3-noters for the background synth here to emphasize it alright, applied
01:00:134 (60134|3,60134|1,60476|3,60476|0) - Similarly this too ^

01:04:248 (64248|0,64334|1,64419|0,64505|1,64591|0,64676|1,64719|0,64848|1,64891|0) - If you're targeting a lower caliber player than that of players who can actually do this 04:11:791 - perfectly, then I'd suggest to not have this trill transition as it kinda forces the player to trill for quite a long time on the left hand (inclusive of the {14}{23} pattern before) and trill even faster for a very short section here to transition into the 43214321 roll hmm okay . . . i feels get fucked too with that pattern haha, re-arranged

01:05:276 (65276|3) - Same suggestion as 00:21:391 - calm down dude, this is still on opening phase XD . . . i will do that complcated burst in later parts

01:11:448 - Not a fan of this pattern to go with the piano here, consider something less simplistic i love playing the flows owo . . . maybe keep for this time
01:22:419 - Similarly :3 /

01:27:391 (87391|2,87391|3,87562|0,87562|1) - Suggesting to Ctrl+H this, personally feel that {12}{34}{12}{34} 1/2 trills aren't that great to match a build up in the track here considering how easy it is to players at this level alright . . . i agree, applied

01:47:791 (107791|3,107791|0,107962|2,107962|0) - Think you can emphasize these snares better if you would to concentrate them on either {12} or {34} as a 2 noter that part looks bad lol . . . okay, i re-arranged it

01:49:848 (109848|0,110105|1) - Heavily recommend to have these 2 at the same column as they are the same pitch, this applies to everything similar in this section okay applied, i'm bad at pitch xP

01:55:848 (115848|0,116105|0) - Not really sure if there's a solid reason on why you hammered these but the 2nd note should be on a different column (it is the same pitch as the ones that I have told you to hammer before), this applies to everything similar applied too ^

02:11:105 - same thing as before alright . . . let's do some complicated burst here >:3

03:16:934 - Yeeaaa no thanks fam, that's a 262.5 BPM 1/4 jumptrill which is way out of reach for players you're targeting right here, it's out of reach for me to hit comfortably even, so you see where this is going. Suggesting the more complicated 1/8 instead of just a 350 dense JS aaa, actually this part on this song is have the "super condition" when the 1/16 sound is meet up with long sound inside (probably this sound is the hardest part of this song) so, i mapped that like that XD . . . i will consider this and consult this to other too (bookmarked)

03:19:676 (199676|3,200019|3) - Not really even sure if you're intending to go for PR so I think i'll just stop tehee . . . re-arranged

04:11:791 - no thanks fam evil pattern > < (already explained before)

04:35:876 (275876|1,275876|0,276048|2) - Same with what I have pointed out earlier, I think you can emphasize this 1/4 beat swing better if you had 2 notes on the same column nooo, it will break the flows . . . and yeah, i don't really know re-arrange to where in this part . . . so, i think it just fine now

04:55:676 - Same idea as previously okay, applied =w=

04:57:134 (297134|1,297219|0,297305|2) - mmm not sure about having a note on 1/2 snap here, think it's fine with just the 1st and 3rd note and having them on the same column for the 1/4 swing, but it is also fine as it is acting as a transition from the more streamy parts previously, up to you I guess i think it's still fine owo

05:17:619 - Same idea as previously hmmm . . . for closing part (and i feel the sound is going to calm) maybe simple pattern is fine imo xD

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Don't really feel like playing through the easier difficulty haha, mostly due to laziness xp ayyy okay.jpg
Thank you so much Evening > <
updated
Kyousuke-
Hi avalon, just passing by~
/note that i modded this since yesterday, so its maybe not match bcs of evening's mod

[General]
  1. unchecklist widescreen support on Triumph diff
[Regret]

00:22:848 - add note, like 00:24:219 - 00:28:334 - 00:29:705 - maybe the pattern is like dis http://puu.sh/neJcA/4d8faad9fc.png
00:25:419 (25419|1) - oops move to 00:25:419 (25419|1) - here like the others
^ if done, 00:25:505 (25505|0,25591|1) - ctrl + j
00:26:191 (26191|1) - move to 00:26:105 - here. 00:26:191 - this is the only triples on this part lol, and like the others 00:23:362 - 00:24:734 - 00:30:219 - there's a note
00:28:848 - hmm i dunno it's intended or not, like 00:31:591 - 00:34:334 - . then i think 00:23:362 (23362|2) - 00:37:076 (37076|1) - this must be deleted too. (since the song is repetive lmao)
00:31:676 - 00:35:791 - this should be double like the others too. if you mean it's for the chord, you should add on the others too bcs its basically the same

00:31:076 - 00:36:562 - add note like the others
00:37:762 (37762|2) - this should be 00:38:276 - on here? or just add note on there
^ if you agree, move 00:38:191 (38191|2) - this to 1

00:52:076 (52076|1,52162|2) - hmm just ctrl + j? bcs this is the only pattern that bothering me, it breaks the stairs pattern
01:00:562 - 01:01:248 - 01:01:934 - add note? bcs the melody is still playing. and it's weird to not add it like before
01:02:448 (62448|2) - delete this, and 01:02:619 - 01:02:791 - 01:02:962 - add note on here like the others (for consistency tho)
01:05:962 ~ 01:08:876 - the pattern on here is not suit for the pitch lol, it plays a bit weird tho. maybe like this http://puu.sh/neK79/ce879b3e52.png until 01:08:876 - here. it fits with the next pattern

02:16:848 (136848|1) - move to 1, like 02:15:476 (135476|0) -
02:39:048 (159048|2) - move to 2, like 02:37:676 -
02:43:762 (163762|2,163848|0) - ctrl + j is better imo

02:56:448 - delete one note, this the only double on this part. like 02:59:191 - 03:01:934 - 03:04:676 - there's only one note on here
02:56:962 (176962|2) - delete? like 03:02:448 - 03:05:191 -
03:06:648 - add note for crash?
03:07:248 (187248|2) - move to 03:07:419 - here like the others? it seems that you're intended to skip the note 03:10:162 - 03:12:905 - but it's just inconsistent for me, since the song is almost the same lol
03:08:791 - delete one note, like the mod before

03:39:562 (219562|3) - the LN should be end on 03:43:676 - here imo. the swoosh effect is only until there :v
03:48:134 (228134|0) - and this LN should be start on 03:49:162 - here? the effect sound start on there
04:22:762 - 04:23:448 - add note for crash?
04:20:191 - how about like this? http://puu.sh/nfCRv/53c5485dfc.jpg, or http://puu.sh/nfCXU/b506b4253f.jpg, or http://puu.sh/nfCZT/eee341c8da.jpg woc make some pattern variation in this second kiai lol, and apply to the others pattern

seems the third kiai is fine :3


okay that's all goodluck!
/pls rank lmao
Topic Starter
[ A v a l o n ]
Ups, i'm really sorry for late replies ;w;

Kyousuke- wrote:

Hi avalon, just passing by~
/note that i modded this since yesterday, so its maybe not match bcs of evening's mod

[General]
  1. unchecklist widescreen support on Triumph diff
[Regret]

00:22:848 - add note, like 00:24:219 - 00:28:334 - 00:29:705 - maybe the pattern is like dis http://puu.sh/neJcA/4d8faad9fc.png timing that you mentioned is actually different pace . . . keeping it blank is fine, it seems like 00:25:419 - that part
00:25:419 (25419|1) - oops move to 00:25:419 (25419|1) - here like the others
^ if done, 00:25:505 (25505|0,25591|1) - ctrl + j link not works, seems already re-arranged lol XD
00:26:191 (26191|1) - move to 00:26:105 - here. 00:26:191 - this is the only triples on this part lol, and like the others 00:23:362 - 00:24:734 - 00:30:219 - there's a note the part that you mentioned is feels like 00:28:848 - that's why keep blank on that
00:28:848 - hmm i dunno it's intended or not, like 00:31:591 - 00:34:334 - . then i think 00:23:362 (23362|2) - 00:37:076 (37076|1) - this must be deleted too. (since the song is repetive lmao) ayy lmao
00:31:676 - 00:35:791 - this should be double like the others too. if you mean it's for the chord, you should add on the others too bcs its basically the same
i only put 3 note if there is not contains any 1/4 note before that (in case it have blank part), yea ofc actually all that part can have 3 note, but it can be ignored if you have stream before that . . . hope you understand xD
00:31:076 - 00:36:562 - add note like the others Okay :v
00:37:762 (37762|2) - this should be 00:38:276 - on here? or just add note on there just for making flows, it still fine depend on the BGM imo
^ if you agree, move 00:38:191 (38191|2) - this to 1

00:52:076 (52076|1,52162|2) - hmm just ctrl + j? bcs this is the only pattern that bothering me, it breaks the stairs pattern Okay
01:00:562 - 01:01:248 - 01:01:934 - add note? bcs the melody is still playing. and it's weird to not add it like before Oh plis, i don't want make this harder, just keeping it for flows is okay imo . . . cause of you will pressing the burst after that, it will give player more stressed
01:02:448 (62448|2) - delete this, and 01:02:619 - 01:02:791 - 01:02:962 - add note on here like the others (for consistency tho) i don't get you poit lol, its still okay i think
01:05:962 ~ 01:08:876 - the pattern on here is not suit for the pitch lol, it plays a bit weird tho. maybe like this http://puu.sh/neK79/ce879b3e52.png until 01:08:876 - here. it fits with the next pattern hmm, okay considered XD

02:16:848 (136848|1) - move to 1, like 02:15:476 (135476|0) - maybe next time
02:39:048 (159048|2) - move to 2, like 02:37:676 - Okay
02:43:762 (163762|2,163848|0) - ctrl + j is better imo wtf nice

02:56:448 - delete one note, this the only double on this part. like 02:59:191 - 03:01:934 - 03:04:676 - there's only one note on here like as CS mentioned in this part, i agree it have an extra sound here
02:56:962 (176962|2) - delete? like 03:02:448 - 03:05:191 - even the song is repetitive, but it have different feels
03:06:648 - add note for crash? pain to press lol . . i can't force it
03:07:248 (187248|2) - move to 03:07:419 - here like the others? it seems that you're intended to skip the note 03:10:162 - 03:12:905 - but it's just inconsistent for me, since the song is almost the same lol it's already consistent owo, maybe already re-arranged
03:08:791 - delete one note, like the mod before already explained

03:39:562 (219562|3) - the LN should be end on 03:43:676 - here imo. the swoosh effect is only until there :v RIP your earphone :v
03:48:134 (228134|0) - and this LN should be start on 03:49:162 - here? the effect sound start on there nope, it's right . . lol
04:22:762 - 04:23:448 - add note for crash? applied on this only 04:22:762 - :v
04:20:191 - how about like this? http://puu.sh/nfCRv/53c5485dfc.jpg, or http://puu.sh/nfCXU/b506b4253f.jpg, or http://puu.sh/nfCZT/eee341c8da.jpg woc make some pattern variation in this second kiai lol, and apply to the others pattern LOL okay sure

seems the third kiai is fine :3


okay that's all goodluck!
/pls rank lmao
thank you so much Kyou :*
Pizza
aaa awesome map, take my star owo)/
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