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Nightwish - The Escapist

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Dragvon
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Dragvon
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 15 de janeiro de 2011 at 01:07:31

Artist: Nightwish
Title: The Escapist
Tags: dark passion play symphonic metal
BPM: 144
Filesize: 14437kb
Play Time: 04:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Evening (2,03 stars, 196 notes)
  2. Midnight (4,76 stars, 389 notes)
  3. Night (4,37 stars, 295 notes)
  4. Nightmare (4,95 stars, 529 notes)
Download: Nightwish - The Escapist
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Let's make this epic.

Last updates:
Fixed one little thing >.> and added warning.
Last edited by Dragvon , edited 34 times in total.
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[deleted user]
Good luck. :3
*star*
danichan
62 posts
Joined July 2010
danichan
Really good map , star :3
Kite
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1,372 posts
Joined July 2009
Kite
star cuz epic
nimi
978 posts
Joined April 2010
nimi
star~
Slowmotion_old
112 posts
Joined May 2010
Slowmotion_old
Boa Map drag :D star ;)
dlguiga
60 posts
Joined November 2009
dlguiga
Evening:

01:55:200 (1) - align
02:13:533 (3) - rotate 180 degrees
02:15:617 (2) - align with 1 and 3
03:50:200 (3) - rotate 180 degrees
03:52:284 (2) - align with 1 and 3
04:16:867 (3) - rotate 180 degrees

Night:

03:05:200 (1) - ending on blue tick
03:18:534 (1) - ^

Midnight:

01:06:033 (2) - remove new combo
02:14:992 (1) - too close from a spinner
02:57:283 (1) - align
03:51:659 (1) - too close from a spinner
04:03:950 (1) - ^
04:18:325 (1) - ^

Lower drain rate and/or approach rate/OD by one or two ticks

Nightmare:

00:43:533 (7) - new combo
00:46:866 (7) - ^
00:50:200 (7) - ^
00:53:533 (7) - ^

Overall:

04:19:367 (1,1) - too long spinning time
Dragvon
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Dragvon
dlguiga

dlguiga wrote:

Evening:

01:55:200 (1) - align
02:13:533 (3) - rotate 180 degrees
02:15:617 (2) - align with 1 and 3
03:50:200 (3) - rotate 180 degrees
03:52:284 (2) - align with 1 and 3
04:16:867 (3) - rotate 180 degrees

Night:

03:05:200 (1) - ending on blue tick
03:18:534 (1) - ^

Midnight:

01:06:033 (2) - remove new combo
02:14:992 (1) - too close from a spinner
02:57:283 (1) - align
03:51:659 (1) - too close from a spinner
04:03:950 (1) - ^
04:18:325 (1) - ^

Lower drain rate and/or approach rate/OD by one or two ticks

Nightmare:

00:43:533 (7) - new combo
00:46:866 (7) - ^
00:50:200 (7) - ^
00:53:533 (7) - ^

Overall:

04:19:367 (1,1) - too long spinning time

I'll fix these as soon as i can :)
Vlw~
Bittersweet
2,031 posts
Joined February 2010
Bittersweet
The nightgay in a golden cage~
vytalibus
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vytalibus
Move all the timing sections forward by 18 ms. Resnap accordingly.

<Storyboard>
vocal.png looks a bit off compared to the background. You can tell by the transition. This is a very minor misalignment, though.

[Midnight]
02:57:075 (5,1) - Another minor misalignment that you can ignore or change if you want.

[Nightmare]
00:42:283 (3,6) - You can make either of them stack with the other slider. It looks more structured that way.
Dragvon
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Dragvon

vytalibus wrote:

Move all the timing sections forward by 18 ms. Resnap accordingly. Sounds better, thanks!

<Storyboard>
vocal.png looks a bit off compared to the background. You can tell by the transition. This is a very minor misalignment, though. Yeah i have noticed that, but i'll leave as it is :3

[Midnight]
02:57:075 (5,1) - Another minor misalignment that you can ignore or change if you want. Fixed

[Nightmare]
00:42:283 (3,6) - You can make either of them stack with the other slider. It looks more structured that way.Fixed
Hmm~
Sakura
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Sakura
Please remember some of these errors are suggestions not directions, but if i point something out it's because i believe it will help your map!
[General]
No tags? Could you please add some?
Avoid using white combo color, it's blinding during kiai (And don't use gray either, if you were planning to use that)
You need to include approach circle in your skin, even if it's the default one. Same for spinner approach circle, otherwise it might cause problems with custom skins.
There's a few extra seconds of silence after the song stops, crop?
What's the point of the first red line? if you aren't going to map anything in between the 1st and the 2nd red line.

[Nightmare]
01:49:367 (3) - Pac-Man slider also slider end and start are very close for a curve like this, try to smooth it more by using 4 control points instead of 3? like this:
SPOILER
01:51:867 (5) - Avoid sharp corners on the inside of the slider, you could try a smoother curve here as well.
01:55:200 (1) - Is this form intentional? otherwise i rather have you make something more circular o.o
02:03:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The increase in spacing here made me thought theese were 1/2s and not 1/4 triplets, they can't really be considered jumps, just an increase in speed, but make them at least more readable by not making them look like 1/2s according to the rest of the map.
02:05:200 (1) - if you are going to use 90 degree turn on control points then at least make both lines have the same length to achieve a perfect arc, otherwise, dont use 90 degrees.
02:16:867 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - same comment as 02:03:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
Note: copy/pasting the whole chorus and flipping it for the 2nd half of it... maybe try to make something different?.
02:43:533 (9,1) - Unintuitive jump.
Note: yay more copy/pasting...
And the 2nd chorus is just a copy/paste of the earlier one, seriously, stop copy/pasting entire sections of a beatmap, it gets annoying to see the same pattern many times across the whole song, I recommend you remap all the copy/paste sections, i stopped checking here considering you can pretty much copy/paste my mod post for the rest of the map the way you did for the map itself.

I quick checked the other diffs and they also copy/paste in extreme And a bat was even suggesting me to nuke it but im too scared to do so... so please remap those copy/pasted sections :<
Dragvon
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Dragvon
Back to mapping '-'
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Dark Play Passion is an album,right? You may add it to Tags,but remove from Source.

Oh,it's okay on others,just fix in Evening.

I have to say that your BG isn't 4:3.
You better resize it to 640 x 480,and vocal.png as well.

Maybe change Midnight with Night?

[Easy]
Each hitsound contains clap..that's awkward.Remove 1/2 of claps at least,use them after each white tick.
00:41:867 (1) - Finish.
00:48:533 (1) - ^
00:55:200 (1) - ^
01:01:867 (1) - ^
01:21:867 (1) - ^
01:28:533 - ^
02:08:533 (1) - ^
02:21:867 (1) - ^
03:21:867 (1) - ^
03:45:200 (1) - ^
03:58:533 (1) - ^
04:11:867 (1) - ^
Use these finishes for other diffs as well.

[Night]
02:59:176 (2) - It looks bad,switch off Grid Snap and place it manually between (1) and (3),please.
03:07:718 (6) - 1 grid down?
03:40:635 (1,2,3) - 1 grid left.
04:24:801 (1) - Remove it.

[Midnight]
01:05:218 (1) - Stack with (3).
03:24:384 (1) - It's really short,maybe start it from 03:23:968?
03:50:635 (1) - ^ Same,start from 03:50:426.
04:03:968 (1) - ^ From 04:03:759 then.
04:17:301 (1) - ^ 04:17:093.

[Nightmare]
Reduce OD by 1 tick and HP Drain by 1-2 ticks.
01:06:033 (4) - Completely stacked sliders are unrankable.

I love Nightwish,nice work,best wishes to you.
Star~
Dragvon
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Dragvon
SPOILER

IceBeam wrote:

Dark Play Passion is an album,right? You may add it to Tags,but remove from Source.

Oh,it's okay on others,just fix in Evening. Ops didn't noticed i've put that in source. My mistake, thanks

I have to say that your BG isn't 4:3.
You better resize it to 640 x 480,and vocal.png as well. Mmmm it's only 8/6 pixels higher, i really don't think that's a big issue :3

Maybe change Midnight with Night?

[Easy]
Each hitsound contains clap..that's awkward.Remove 1/2 of claps at least,use them after each white tick. I've kept these claps based on the harder diffs, i'll keep them for now ~
00:41:867 (1) - Finish.
00:48:533 (1) - ^
00:55:200 (1) - ^
01:01:867 (1) - ^
01:21:867 (1) - ^
01:28:533 - ^ I'm fine with those ^
02:08:533 (1) - ^
02:21:867 (1) - ^ Didn't liked these 2 :3
03:21:867 (1) - ^ Added
03:45:200 (1) - ^
03:58:533 (1) - ^
04:11:867 (1) - ^ Same as the previous comment on these
Use these finishes for other diffs as well.

[Night]
02:59:176 (2) - It looks bad,switch off Grid Snap and place it manually between (1) and (3),please.Fixed
03:07:718 (6) - 1 grid down? Ops, thanks, fixed
03:40:635 (1,2,3) - 1 grid left. Okay
04:24:801 (1) - Remove it.Hmm since this is the second easiest diff... Okay

[Midnight]
01:05:218 (1) - Stack with (3).Done
03:24:384 (1) - It's really short,maybe start it from 03:23:968? I'm keeping mine :3
03:50:635 (1) - ^ Same,start from 03:50:426.
04:03:968 (1) - ^ From 04:03:759 then.
04:17:301 (1) - ^ 04:17:093.

[Nightmare]
Reduce OD by 1 tick and HP Drain by 1-2 ticks. Both moved, HP only 1 tho...
01:06:033 (4) - Completely stacked sliders are unrankable. Moved it.

I love Nightwish,nice work,best wishes to you.
Star~

Thanks ^-^
Jako87
80 posts
Joined August 2010
Jako87
Really nice beatmap.

Beautiful skin that doesn't disturb gaming. 8-)

Definetly a star.
Mismagius
9,239 posts
Joined July 2008
Mismagius
Modding queue go!

Geral
Tu já deve saber, mas... O máximo filesize de mapas sem vídeo é 10MB. Tenta fazer algo quanto a isso pls D:
Tu precisa de um approachcircle.png e um spinner-approachcircle.png (acho que é esse o filesize hm). Se não quer fazer um custom, pega o da templateskin e joga na folder. É pra evitar confusão de skins diferentes que o user estiver usando e talz~ (eu vi que a skin preferred é default, mas às vezes dá problema mesmo assim)
Mal consigo ver a combocolor mais escura. ;_;
Coloca as timing section ANTES das notas, porque senão ela dá glitch e vai ficar o hitsound style da timing section anterior (pra quem tem hitsound lag, isso é um GRANDE problema).

Evening
02:10:200 (5,6) - Considerando como o mapa tava fluindo até agora, overlap maroto esse aí rs
02:47:700 (1,2) - na diff mais fácil não dá né? D: imagina um nub jogando isso aí
02:56:450 (2) - usando grid lv3, move um grid pra esquerda (pra deixar o mapa mais "fluinte" e continuar com o não-overlap que tu tá fazendo, além de combinar com o (4).)
03:42:283 (4) - ^ tirando que ao invés de um grid pra esquerda, manda um grid pra cima
04:04:992 (1,2) - Feio, acaba com teu não-overlap, não flui com o mapa, e bem, acho que já expliquei. =x
04:25:200 (1) - Spinners longos assim geralmente não são permitidos, principalmente quando tu já tem um spinner longo antes. Tenta usar algumas notas no spinner antes desse, no caso.

Night
00:56:867 (4,5,6) - se isso é um normal, tá confuso pra porra (pra quem é semi-newb), fikdik.
01:00:200 (4,5,6) - ^
01:33:116 (5,6,1) - tenta fazer que nem o (2,3,4), o stacking deixa isso um pouco feio :/
02:49:783 (2,3) - ISSO me confundiu safgasdgasdg
04:25:200 (1) - Mesma coisa que o Evening

Midnight
01:50:200 (1,2,3,4) - tá tudo errado. Os sliders não são iguais. Usa copypaste pra isso.
01:53:533 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:14:992 (1) - Essa nota é praticamente IMPOSSÍVEL de acertar depois de um spinner curto como aquele.
02:23:950 (5) - Tenta fazer o final do slider stackear com o (3) corretamente.
03:21:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - isso é um hard fio ;_; essa combo color já não dá pra ver nada, imagina só essa pattern com um approach rate alto desses
04:04:991 (1) - a nota fica coberta pelo "300!" do spinner, muda ela de lugar ( mas se mudar vai ficar impossível de acertar depois de spinner curto... enfim, acho melhor deletar a nota)
04:18:325 (1) - ^

Nightmare
IMO o refrão tá meio overmapped. Alguns daqueles 1/4 triples não fazem sentido :<

02:34:783 (1) - A repeat arrow tá coberta pelo "300!" da nota anterior. Tenta mover a nota anterior pra solucionar isso
02:37:700 (1,2,3,4) - O grid snap tá ferrando com o distance snap, refaz essa stream SEM o grid snap pq a distância entre as notas não tá simétrica
03:51:658 (1,2,3) - 300 do spinner cobre as notas
04:04:991 (1,2,3) - ^

Aidna não tá pronto pra uma star IMO. Me pergunta lá na queue por um recheck que eu vejo e provavelmente dou uma star ;)
Dragvon
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Dragvon
BD

Blue Dragon wrote:

Modding queue go!

Geral
Tu já deve saber, mas... O máximo filesize de mapas sem vídeo é 10MB. Tenta fazer algo quanto a isso pls D:
Tu precisa de um approachcircle.png e um spinner-approachcircle.png (acho que é esse o filesize hm). Se não quer fazer um custom, pega o da templateskin e joga na folder. É pra evitar confusão de skins diferentes que o user estiver usando e talz~ (eu vi que a skin preferred é default, mas às vezes dá problema mesmo assim) Mas a prefered obriga a default, não tem como não usá-la D:!
Mal consigo ver a combocolor mais escura. ;_; Tava pior antes Dx vou ver o que posso fazer
Coloca as timing section ANTES das notas, porque senão ela dá glitch e vai ficar o hitsound style da timing section anterior (pra quem tem hitsound lag, isso é um GRANDE problema).Eu perguntei no modhelp e me disseram que nao tem problema o jeito que está :3

Evening
02:10:200 (5,6) - Considerando como o mapa tava fluindo até agora, overlap maroto esse aí rs Eu achando que era algo monstruoso, haha arrumei
02:47:700 (1,2) - na diff mais fácil não dá né? D: imagina um nub jogando isso aí Esse vou deixar por enquanto
02:56:450 (2) - usando grid lv3, move um grid pra esquerda (pra deixar o mapa mais "fluinte" e continuar com o não-overlap que tu tá fazendo, além de combinar com o (4).) No remap não vi esse detalhe thx
03:42:283 (4) - ^ tirando que ao invés de um grid pra esquerda, manda um grid pra cima Fixd
04:04:992 (1,2) - Feio, acaba com teu não-overlap, não flui com o mapa, e bem, acho que já expliquei. =x Stackei
04:25:200 (1) - Spinners longos assim geralmente não são permitidos, principalmente quando tu já tem um spinner longo antes. Tenta usar algumas notas no spinner antes desse, no caso. Vou esperar uma segunda opinião~

Night
00:56:867 (4,5,6) - se isso é um normal, tá confuso pra porra (pra quem é semi-newb), fikdik.
01:00:200 (4,5,6) - ^
01:33:116 (5,6,1) - tenta fazer que nem o (2,3,4), o stacking deixa isso um pouco feio :/
02:49:783 (2,3) - ISSO me confundiu safgasdgasdg
04:25:200 (1) - Mesma coisa que o Evening

Midnight
01:50:200 (1,2,3,4) - tá tudo errado. Os sliders não são iguais. Usa copypaste pra isso.
01:53:533 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:14:992 (1) - Essa nota é praticamente IMPOSSÍVEL de acertar depois de um spinner curto como aquele.
02:23:950 (5) - Tenta fazer o final do slider stackear com o (3) corretamente.
03:21:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - isso é um hard fio ;_; essa combo color já não dá pra ver nada, imagina só essa pattern com um approach rate alto desses
04:04:991 (1) - a nota fica coberta pelo "300!" do spinner, muda ela de lugar ( mas se mudar vai ficar impossível de acertar depois de spinner curto... enfim, acho melhor deletar a nota)
04:18:325 (1) - ^

Nightmare
IMO o refrão tá meio overmapped. Alguns daqueles 1/4 triples não fazem sentido :<

02:34:783 (1) - A repeat arrow tá coberta pelo "300!" da nota anterior. Tenta mover a nota anterior pra solucionar isso
02:37:700 (1,2,3,4) - O grid snap tá ferrando com o distance snap, refaz essa stream SEM o grid snap pq a distância entre as notas não tá simétrica
03:51:658 (1,2,3) - 300 do spinner cobre as notas
04:04:991 (1,2,3) - ^

Aidna não tá pronto pra uma star IMO. Me pergunta lá na queue por um recheck que eu vejo e provavelmente dou uma star ;)

Evening: Arrumado.
Resto: Ainda não -q
AdRon Zh3Ro
900 posts
Joined August 2009
AdRon Zh3Ro
Vai em idioma de gringo mesmo. >.>
[*]Change?
[>]Change!

Dunno what happened but i've only dowloaded Nightmare diff...

*Make the colours a little more brighter perhaps? It's hard to see sometimes.

Soooo...

Nightmare:
>1:57:387 This one was hard to predict, maybe delete?
>54:887 [Spacing] It's a little too close.
>1:23:221 [Spacing] ^

Seems good.
Jako87
80 posts
Joined August 2010
Jako87
Bump this up! I would give another star but i don't have any :|
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