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DragonForce - Defenders [Taiko]

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Raiden
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 26 de diciembre de 2015 at 3:54:57

Artist: DragonForce
Title: Defenders
BPM: 190
Filesize: 8854kb
Play Time: 05:42
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  1. Tatsujin (5,78 stars, 2905 notes)
Download: DragonForce - Defenders
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taiko needs more dragonforce

Thanks Spaghetti for the mp3 and BG <3 ily baby
-> his ranked standard map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/323059

TWC2016 Ro16 tiebreaker!
Spaghetti
omg <3333
Topic Starter
Raiden
:3
Chromoxx
Hey, here's my M4M, idk how much stuff i can find here :o
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/376457

General
Everything seems in order :D

Tatsujin
- Nice Beginning :D
00:37:154 - Make SV 2.0 instead of 2.5, 2.5 is a little too fast and very hard to read with mods activated
00:38:417 - ^
01:02:417 - ^
01:03:680 - ^
01:02:417 - ^
01:03:680 - ^
01:06:522 (20) - this note should probably be a d, maybe change the stream around that, you could make 01:06:364 (18) - k if you do that
01:16:707 (86) - maybe make this k to coincide with the guitar sound on that beat
01:23:575 (54) - maybe move to 01:23:654 - for better synergy with the vocals
01:24:917 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - this stream is fine as it is, but it could be made more interesting, while also matching with the song, maybe think about something there, this is up to you though :D
01:32:259 (44,45,46) - maybe change the colors here, sounds better imo
maybe move 01:43:312 (149) - to 01:42:996 (146) - and 01:43:549 (151) - to 01:43:628 - i think doubles would fit quite well here and it would suit the way you mapped doubles at other places
01:48:601 (197) - or 01:48:443 (196) - maybe put d here, too much k spam imo
01:56:496 (23,24) - maybe shorten the sliders so they end at the white tick and place a k where they would end normally, it's also fine as they are but this plays better imo
02:00:759 (46,49) - maybe put d here to accentuate some of the lower notes and to put variety into this k spam
02:22:391 (184) - k to accentuate the guitar sound
02:29:259 (54) - move to 02:29:338 - to synergize more with the vocals, also sounds more natural imo
02:30:601 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - again, this stream is fine as it is, but you could make it more interesting, while still having it fit to the music... it's a bit boring to play as it is imo, 02:32:338 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - these notes also should be reversed imo, because the guitar doesn't change pitch at this point 02:32:338 (23) - but changes to a lower pitch here 02:32:496 (25) - instead
an alternative to changing that might just be to make 02:32:338 (23) - be a k instead, as this fixes it too
02:37:944 (44,45,46) - maybe change the colors on these notes, it would sound and play better imo
02:54:128 (196,197) - make one of these notes a d, to make some difference in this kat spam, it's too monotonous imo
03:37:075 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - this part of the stream sounds kinda weird, maybe change the colors here 03:37:154 (28,30,31) - i think that fits better, or just do something else there, up to you
03:41:891 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109) - this part of the stream seems a bit off again, maybe tweak some stuff there, just go for some more normal patterns in there, i think that should straighten things out
04:20:812 (48,51,54,57) - maybe change these to d to differentiate the difference in pitch from the ones starting here 04:22:075 (60) -
04:26:970 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,1) - this last part sounds kinda weird again, i would reccomend changing the colors here to fix this 04:27:207 (114,117,118) -
04:57:759 (160) - k to accentuate the guitar sound
05:29:496 (196,197) - change one of these notes to d, to add some difference between this kat spam, again it is perfectly possible to put a d there, so why not do it? :D
05:36:128 (258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276) - this stream is perfectly fine, but i would suggest making it a bit more complex since it is the last stream in the map and it is perfectly possible to make it more complex without disregarding the music :D
Nice map, hope the mod is of some use! :D
Topic Starter
Raiden

Chromoxx wrote:

Hey, here's my M4M, idk how much stuff i can find here :o
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/376457

General
Everything seems in order :D

Tatsujin
- Nice Beginning :D
00:37:154 - Make SV 2.0 instead of 2.5, 2.5 is a little too fast and very hard to read with mods activated
00:38:417 - ^
01:02:417 - ^
01:03:680 - ^
01:02:417 - ^
01:03:680 - ^ Mods are additional and I don't map to them, however if more people tell me to lower it a bit I might do.
01:06:522 (20) - this note should probably be a d, maybe change the stream around that, you could make 01:06:364 (18) - k if you do that yeah did some tweaks
01:16:707 (86) - maybe make this k to coincide with the guitar sound on that beat I prefer to keep the low tone in here
01:23:575 (54) - maybe move to 01:23:654 - for better synergy with the vocals I prefer to keep the even pattern
01:24:917 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - this stream is fine as it is, but it could be made more interesting, while also matching with the song, maybe think about something there, this is up to you though :D I agree, tweaked a bit
01:32:259 (44,45,46) - maybe change the colors here, sounds better imo did some change
maybe move 01:43:312 (149) - to 01:42:996 (146) - and 01:43:549 (151) - to 01:43:628 - i think doubles would fit quite well here and it would suit the way you mapped doubles at other places hmmmmm I will think about it
01:48:601 (197) - or 01:48:443 (196) - maybe put d here, too much k spam imo agreed
01:56:496 (23,24) - maybe shorten the sliders so they end at the white tick and place a k where they would end normally, it's also fine as they are but this plays better imo nah it's okay
02:00:759 (46,49) - maybe put d here to accentuate some of the lower notes and to put variety into this k spam nah it's fine, what do you have against kats? xD
02:22:391 (184) - k to accentuate the guitar sound same as before
02:29:259 (54) - move to 02:29:338 - to synergize more with the vocals, also sounds more natural imo I kinda don't wanna focus on vocals
02:30:601 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - again, this stream is fine as it is, but you could make it more interesting, while still having it fit to the music... it's a bit boring to play as it is imo, 02:32:338 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - these notes also should be reversed imo, because the guitar doesn't change pitch at this point 02:32:338 (23) - but changes to a lower pitch here 02:32:496 (25) - instead will try to give some deeper thoughts, although I think it's completely fine now xD
an alternative to changing that might just be to make 02:32:338 (23) - be a k instead, as this fixes it too
02:37:944 (44,45,46) - maybe change the colors on these notes, it would sound and play better imo fixed some
02:54:128 (196,197) - make one of these notes a d, to make some difference in this kat spam, it's too monotonous imo yea, fixed as said in previous part like this and following
03:37:075 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - this part of the stream sounds kinda weird, maybe change the colors here 03:37:154 (28,30,31) - i think that fits better, or just do something else there, up to you it sounds perfectly fine to me lol
03:41:891 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109) - this part of the stream seems a bit off again, maybe tweak some stuff there, just go for some more normal patterns in there, i think that should straighten things out the chaotic guitar guitar wubs are nicely represented by the patterns hm
04:20:812 (48,51,54,57) - maybe change these to d to differentiate the difference in pitch from the ones starting here 04:22:075 (60) - that plays weird imo
04:26:970 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,1) - this last part sounds kinda weird again, i would reccomend changing the colors here to fix this 04:27:207 (114,117,118) - fixed some colours
04:57:759 (160) - k to accentuate the guitar sound same answer
05:29:496 (196,197) - change one of these notes to d, to add some difference between this kat spam, again it is perfectly possible to put a d there, so why not do it? :D fixed as previous parts
05:36:128 (258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276) - this stream is perfectly fine, but i would suggest making it a bit more complex since it is the last stream in the map and it is perfectly possible to make it more complex without disregarding the music :D I think it's okay

Nice map, hope the mod is of some use! :D
Thanks !
Monstrata
I'm basically a Taiko BN but for standard! Bubbled!
Yuzeyun
TEAM FUCKING DRAGONFORCE

[TEAM DRAGONFORCE YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH]
00:34:549 (68,69,70,71,72,73) - I don't know why you broke the rhythm, it is really weird to listen to and threw me off when playing - it's inconsistent with the rest. I could ask for something like k ddk*d. (* = either nothing, d or k)
01:06:364 (18,19) - not sure if dk is better for this, the stream is pretty awkward

dope af
Topic Starter
Raiden
fixed lol
Yuzeyun
Cervezado!

gl brb slap ozzy in the f8ce
Spaghetti
HYPE
Topic Starter
Raiden
!summon ozzy
OzzyOzrock
RAIDEN MAP WALL OF TEXT? THE TRUTH MAY SURPRISE YOU.

[Tatsujin]
  1. 00:14:338 (69,70,71,72) - Since you just got done using kd dk, seeing it again feels like a re-run. Just k ddk should be fine.
  2. 00:36:286 (81) - D? Since the two pairs of chords both progress upwards.
  3. 00:47:812 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Definitely kd dkkd kdd. Leaving the onbeat line open for a 'kd dk' or whatever will sound and play bad 9/10 times.
  4. 00:51:601 (45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - Kinda clashes pretty hard. How about, k ddk d kkd k, which makes it so that a triplet doesn't lead onto the onbeat, and so a triplet isn't immediately followed by that kd dk.
  5. 01:09:364 - k? This spot is a bunch of 1/2 whereas nowhere else has more than 2 between patterns.
  6. 01:14:417 - k? A 5 note thing would lead into the stream nicely.
  7. 01:23:180 (50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - Same as 00:47:812 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15)
  8. 01:27:207 (30,31) - dkd makes the player have to hit the same key 3 times.... where as ddk makes them SLAM into the big note!!!!!! kkkkkdk also works but it's trickier.
  9. 01:43:470 - Adding a note would also give this part a small boost instead of a 3 ddks next to each other.
  10. 01:45:128 (165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174) - Sounds more like a k ddddk d kdkkd. By that I mean don't follow the boring ass drums here. Repeat for literally until the end of kiai. BUFF!
    :arrow: 01:48:128 (190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201) - wtf even is this LOL
  11. 01:54:759 - add note wtf
  12. 02:01:154 (46,47) - Both or only 47 d?
  13. 02:15:049 - k like at 1:09:364.
  14. 02:20:101 - note like at 1:14:417.
    OK A LOT OF STUFF REPEATS HERE SINCE DRAGONFORCE COPYPASTED YOU'LL NOTICE IT (02:28:864 (50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - ) AND KIAI TIME BLAH BLAH
    :arrow: 02:53:813 (192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212) - this makes even less sense here wtf LMAO

  15. 03:04:549 (20) - Move this to 03:03:286 to actually follow geetar?!?!
  16. 03:08:338 (40) - Now change this to k to copy cat?!?
  17. 03:13:391 - AGAIN FOR BOTH
  18. 03:17:654 (30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - dkdkkdkdk to follow vocals and make me proud
  19. 03:21:128 - A spinner would be s u p e r c o o l to not make me feel like I'M IGNORING THE SONG.
  20. 03:25:391 - There's definetly a D here. (your D)
  21. 03:31:391 - It's suuuper weird to have this so empty. A bunch of things are going on but if you wanna keep it empty you can just use a spinner. Actually, you can start the k 1/2 here, and then start the spinner at 03:32:496 to go with the yell better!

  22. 03:35:022 - You need to GIVE THEM THE S U C C ok i just wanted to do this stream for fun u dont HAVE to....
  23. 03:37:943 (37) - Works nicely as d, since the middle ones are the same pitch.
  24. 03:39:522 (54) - k so full squeal 8-)
  25. 03:44:180 (110) - Goes on a blue tick you numbskulls
  26. 03:53:022 (26) - d makes this not stupid
  27. 04:03:601 (60,61) - kk, the sound is like dlededubdudbedk you know?
  28. 04:09:917 (140,141,142,143) - swap, emphasizes the screech along with still sounding like drums
  29. 04:05:338 - These aren't the same sound over and over like in FotS you dringus!!
  30. 04:19:233 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - This isn't 1/3, it's just the guitar skipping notes, AKA more like
  31. 04:20:496 - 1/3: dkkdkkdkkdkdkkdkkdkkdkkd? Gives importance to the pitch change.
  32. 04:25:075 (95,96,97) - Definitely hear notes in between, still gives a 1/4 break before next stream.

  33. 04:35:812 (69,70,71,72) - Hey look, we've made a loop into the first suggestion!
    Ok this is literally more dragonforce pasta so you can re-look at the beginning or whatever. 05:04:232 (50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - ...but kill these above all...
  34. Actually, can't you make the last kiai a bigger deal? Ending the song with the same thing that has happened twice kinda sucks. There's not a lot to work with since the song ACTUALLY repeats itself but you can use more quintuplets and ddddk to hype shit up......... and to stop this 05:29:180 shitty part from showing up again wtf dude
i bet you regret summoning.... have fun with the wall of text raiden map tradition.... ok im sorry bye
Topic Starter
Raiden
fixed most everything except the slow parts and some on the stream

i regret nothing
OzzyOzrock
SPOILER
18:40 OzzyOzrock: 04:09:128 (130) - should this be k
18:40 OzzyOzrock: it shouldnt
18:40 Raiden: if i followed strictly guitar yes
18:40 Raiden: butttttttttttttttttt
18:40 Raiden: erscotch
18:41 OzzyOzrock: why is it 1/3
18:41 OzzyOzrock: im crying
18:41 Raiden: tried 1/4
18:41 Raiden: tested 155335 times
18:41 Raiden: it sounds hideous
18:41 Raiden: terrible
18:41 Raiden: 1/3 is most accurate
18:41 Raiden: ask charles
18:41 Raiden: the guitarist maybe dumbass...
18:41 OzzyOzrock: I FOUND IT
18:41 OzzyOzrock: http://puu.sh/m8L2J/d4f61553b8.jpg
18:41 OzzyOzrock: IT IS BEST
18:42 Raiden: a
18:42 Raiden: then it IS 1/3
18:42 OzzyOzrock: eat dirt
18:42 Raiden: what if i
18:42 Raiden: snap to 1/6
18:43 OzzyOzrock: ur a madman
18:43 Raiden: 33 and 34
18:43 Raiden: are 1/6
18:43 Raiden: what the fuck guitarist
18:44 OzzyOzrock: ok let's forget anything happened because its MORE FUCKED UP
18:44 Raiden: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4206813
18:45 Raiden: this is actually the "correct"
18:45 Raiden: but it's so hideous
18:45 OzzyOzrock: undo
18:45 Raiden: the guitarist surely is dumb
18:45 Raiden: ofc
18:45 Raiden: not gonna let that slip through ranked
18:45 OzzyOzrock: we can blame charles or whatever you said
18:45 Raiden: i have a slight sense of decency
18:45 Raiden: as much as it appears i dont...
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470
18:46 OzzyOzrock: ...
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470-
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470--
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470))!
18:46 OzzyOzrock: (((04:55:470))
18:46 OzzyOzrock: fucking work
18:46 OzzyOzrock: you shitty editor
18:46 Raiden: jesus
18:46 Raiden: dead
18:46 Raiden: for glamour
18:46 Raiden: by*
18:46 OzzyOzrock: anyways k goes there like where i mentioned before 3 times
18:46 Raiden: lets map omega flower
18:47 Raiden: laugh as 1/16 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
18:47 OzzyOzrock: backfiref dd,....
18:47 OzzyOzrock: o
18:47 Raiden: for ol good ddkk players
18:48 Raiden: oo
18:48 Raiden: add
18:48 Raiden: for the sake of mapping hard
18:48 OzzyOzrock: 05:16:075 (75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - this kd dkkd is oversaturated,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
18:48 Raiden: not becuase it sounds good or anything.
18:48 Raiden: oversaturated
18:48 Raiden: is my ass
18:49 OzzyOzrock: 05:21:287 (131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138) - and this one sucks toooOOOOOO
18:49 OzzyOzrock: but its probably consistent with somehting..
18:49 Raiden: yes
18:49 Raiden: 2 even pattern
18:49 OzzyOzrock: yeah
18:49 Raiden: s
18:49 Raiden: so the hand goes back again to dominant
18:49 Raiden: for you singletap fags
18:50 OzzyOzrock: i mean that the other kiais have doubles there too
18:50 OzzyOzrock: smh
18:50 Raiden: i made
18:50 Raiden: this one harder
18:50 Raiden: as you rquested dear sir,,,
18:52 OzzyOzrock: 05:32:022 (243,244,245,246,247) - make this not naked
18:52 OzzyOzrock: !
18:53 Raiden: SHIT
18:53 Raiden: dkddk
18:54 OzzyOzrock: aaaaaaand uhhhhhhh 05:34:549 (270,271,272,273,274) - ddkkddk!!!!
18:54 OzzyOzrock: because
18:54 OzzyOzrock: streams and then
18:54 OzzyOzrock: ddk
18:54 OzzyOzrock: suddenly 3.8* -_---__
18:55 Raiden: why not!!!
18:55 OzzyOzrock: lmfao
18:55 OzzyOzrock: andthen done
18:55 OzzyOzrock: because
18:55 OzzyOzrock: im gonna go be anoerxic
18:55 Raiden: need 95 mre notes
18:56 OzzyOzrock: holy fuck this has nothing compared to FotS
18:56 OzzyOzrock: lmfao
Bubble #2!
MMzz
Qualified!
Spaghetti
CONGRATS BAE
Okoratu
tags are overrated anyways, congrats :D
OzzyOzrock

Okoratu wrote:

tags are overrated anyways, congrats :D
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Yuzeyun


enjoy
Topic Starter
Raiden
holy hell i surely did not expect this lol

Okoratu wrote:

tags are overrated anyways, congrats :D
well not like they can't find this if they type "dragonforce"

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