15:40 firedigger: My greetings
15:40 *firedigger is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/877745 Mr.Kitty - Mother Mary [Dark]]
15:40 ByBy13:
15:40 ByBy13: yes?
15:41 firedigger: Firstly, why do you never space (5) away, which has a strong sound (in places like 01:07:113 (3,4,5) - )
15:41 ByBy13: wait a min
16:28 firedigger: I would assume the fact that you have returned to editing the map means that so called "min" has passed
16:29 ByBy13: oops
16:29 ByBy13: sorry
16:29 ByBy13: I'm trying to do a SB
16:30 firedigger: Is that a "yes, I am listening" or "Sorry, not right now"?
16:30 ByBy13: I'm listening ^^'
16:31 firedigger: Firstly, why do you never space away (5) in places like 01:14:863 (2,3,4,5) - which has a strong sound
16:32 ByBy13: just tried different patterns plus I'm using 1.5x
16:32 ByBy13: ^^
16:32 ByBy13: ^^'
16:32 firedigger: The (5) in particular has a clear strong sound, which suggest a slight jump to it
16:33 ByBy13: i know
16:33 ByBy13: ;w;
16:33 ByBy13: but at strong beats i'm using 1.5x while at others I'm using 1.3x
16:34 firedigger: But (5) is like THE STRONGEST, than others
16:36 firedigger: I think that 1.7x + would be appropriate but that's to your liking after all
16:36 ByBy13: it's an hard diff
16:36 ByBy13: well for now I'll keep sorry
16:37 firedigger: You don't to appologise
16:37 firedigger: I just wanted to make sure you understood my point
16:37 ByBy13: ah okay ^^
16:37 firedigger: Secondly, 03:12:113 (1) - this is a long straight slider at the end of kiai, which may seems like a Fast slider, but it a really Slow slider
16:37 firedigger: Usually, a curvy shape would hint players that the slider is slow
16:37 ByBy13: because I applied 0.50 sv there
16:38 firedigger: I think that would be a good idea to avoid accidental slider break here
16:38 ByBy13: it's a sv change there
16:38 ByBy13: sure
16:38 firedigger: Don't you want to make some kind of hitsounds on those long sliders?
16:39 ByBy13: I added hitsounds
16:39 ByBy13: there
16:39 ByBy13: o.o
16:39 ByBy13: whistles on their tails
16:39 firedigger: Oh, I see now
16:39 firedigger: nice
16:39 ByBy13:
16:39 firedigger: So the last thing I would like discuss is triplets
16:40 ByBy13: yeah
16:40 ByBy13: Tony said to add them
16:40 ByBy13: is the last kiai.It needs some challenge
16:40 firedigger: Yeah, I guess so, but they seems to be out of place, they lack a good purpose in my opinion
16:41 ByBy13: oh :c
16:41 firedigger: The most natural pattern with triplets would be on a sliderstart
16:42 ByBy13: o.o
16:42 firedigger: Let me give an example
16:42 ByBy13: ok
16:42 firedigger: 04:32:863 (2,3,4) - clear illustration
16:43 firedigger: the slider represents long vowel "yyyyeeeeees"
16:43 firedigger: and (2) and (3) would be "my ey.."
16:43 ByBy13: yes
16:43 firedigger: which feel natural on those 2 notes
16:43 ByBy13: I know
16:44 ByBy13: but let's have some challenge here x)
16:44 ByBy13: the triplets are fitting the vocals
16:44 firedigger: so you are saying that such a pattern is too easy?
16:44 ByBy13: nah
16:45 firedigger: If you want some challnge, what about 04:33:863 (5,6,7) -
16:45 firedigger: 04:33:863 (5) - slider and then 2 notes
16:45 firedigger: slider is for "beeeee", and note for "lieve"
16:45 ByBy13: nah
16:46 ByBy13: this will be a bit easier
16:46 firedigger: If you wanted more challenging fina kiai you should have used less 1/1 sliders
16:47 ByBy13: I will ask Bakari about this map ^^'
16:47 ByBy13: yeah sorry ;_;
16:47 ByBy13: I finished it at 3 am
16:47 firedigger: 04:22:113 (1,2) - this for example wants a slider + tap instead a single slider because of strong vocal "make"
16:48 firedigger: Okay, looks like you are finished
16:48 ByBy13: ^^'
16:48 ByBy13: also about that slider, 'please' lyric is extended as I can hear
16:49 firedigger: Yes it is
16:49 ByBy13:
16:49 firedigger: but the 1/2 slider would obviously me mapped for usual 1/2 beats
16:49 firedigger: so that's not a concern at all
16:50 ByBy13: oh
16:50 ByBy13:
16:50 ByBy13: oh okay ^^
16:50 firedigger: that change could be done nearly to any 1/1 slider there
16:51 firedigger: 04:39:113 (3,4,5) - btw that's a good place for triplet
16:52 firedigger: Because of variant syllables in the word "clear" C,L,R
16:53 firedigger: That trick works poorly with "..lieve" in believe, that's why the triplet looks unnatural
16:54 firedigger: 04:58:113 (1,2) - again, only 2 syllables here, two note look better than three
16:55 firedigger: 02:07:113 (3,1) - btw, why not prolong the slider with the vocals up to the stream?
16:57 ByBy13: the last issue: I prefer to keep as it is
16:57 ByBy13: 04:58:113 (1,2)- nice idea
16:57 ByBy13: the first one sounds weird to me :/
16:59 firedigger: I would still recommend making 02:07:113 (3) - into a 1/2 slider than, since the strong vocals deafen the beats
16:59 firedigger: for the notes
17:00 ByBy13: fixed
17:01 firedigger: 00:27:863 (4) - do you hear a beat here?
17:01 firedigger: I do not
17:01 firedigger: 00:29:863 (5) - ^
17:02 firedigger: This must be a hidden flow technique
17:04 ByBy13: both fixed perhaps
17:05 firedigger: 00:19:863 (4) -
17:05 firedigger: 00:21:863 (5) -
17:06 firedigger: 00:35:863 (5) -
17:06 ByBy13: fixing them now
17:06 firedigger: 00:37:863 (4) -
17:06 firedigger: Okay, that's all