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Raiden

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Raiden 2016-02-19T15:10:31+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on martes, 19 de julio de 2016 at 5:18:58

Artist: toby fox
Title: sans.
Source: Undertale
Tags: sans the skeleton frisk character
BPM: 128
Filesize: 1385kb
Play Time: 00:47
Difficulties Available:

futsuu. (1,6 stars, 98 notes)
muzukashii. (1,74 stars, 145 notes)
oni. (2,04 stars, 177 notes)

Download: toby fox - sans.
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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that feel when you enter a zone with this tune after many hours of battling monsters and constant tension. It fills you with determination.

ez as heck mapset
~~somehow futsuu is harder rip SR~~ BASED SR

thanks _Gezo_ for mp3 and awesome skin

Last edited by Raiden 2016-07-19T03:19:44+00:00, edited 10 times in total.

Lost The Lights

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Lost The Lights 2016-02-19T17:25:23+00:00

Futsuu more SR than Muzu? Welcome to my world.

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-02-20T14:24:28+00:00

SPOILER

21:02 KittyAdventure: Anyway, when you are not doing anything now, can we doing a irc mod? :3
21:02 *KittyAdventure is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907593 toby fox - sans.]
21:02 Raiden: huh?
21:02 Raiden: LOL
21:02 Raiden: that shit map ww
21:02 KittyAdventure: I can doing lol
21:03 Raiden: sure
21:03 Raiden: >w<
21:04 *Raiden is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907592 toby fox - sans. [Oni]]
21:04 Raiden: :3
21:06 KittyAdventure: 00:20:976 - adding kat?
21:07 Raiden: hmmm
21:07 Raiden: added in 00:20:273 - because there is more sound :3
21:07 KittyAdventure: okay :3
21:08 KittyAdventure: 00:29:648 - ^
21:08 Raiden: done
21:09 Raiden: sure
21:09 Raiden: added in 00:07:148 -  too
21:09 KittyAdventure: 00:47:578 - ^ because following this rhythm 00:45:703 (3)
21:09 KittyAdventure: sure
21:10 Raiden: but in 00:45:703 (3) -  there is sound
21:10 Raiden: in 00:47:578 -  there is not :P
21:11 KittyAdventure: because it's really suit
21:11 KittyAdventure: but it's really suitable*
21:11 Raiden: but i prefer no sound there, very calm ;w;
21:11 KittyAdventure: Okay
21:12 KittyAdventure: I don't understand why futsuu it's higher than muzukashii :/
21:13 Raiden: probably 3/2 patterns ;w;
21:13 Raiden: in Muzukashii they are complete patterns
21:13 Raiden: but in Futsuu they cut at 3/2
21:13 Raiden: so that makes SR up U_U
21:13 KittyAdventure: you can remove some note in futsuu
21:13 Raiden: futsuu is really not dense
21:13 Raiden: removing more notes is kill ;w;
21:14 KittyAdventure: I don't see any problem in Muzukashii
21:14 *KittyAdventure is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907593 toby fox - sans. [Futsuu]]
21:14 *Raiden is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907593 toby fox - sans. [Futsuu]]
21:14 Raiden: :3
21:16 KittyAdventure: 00:11:953 (10) - remove that
21:16 KittyAdventure: much better that :3
21:17 Raiden: sure
21:17 KittyAdventure: How about if OD is 3,5 or 3,7? :/
21:17 KittyAdventure: 00:21:796 - adding don
21:17 Raiden: OD4 is fine
21:18 KittyAdventure: 00:22:265 (11) - remove that for make it easy
21:18 Raiden: too many notes ;w;
21:18 Raiden: I only want 3plets
21:18 Raiden: doublet would make sr up again
21:18 Raiden: :(
21:18 KittyAdventure: no
21:18 Raiden: anyway i prefer triplet U_U
21:18 KittyAdventure: 00:21:796 - is adding but in 00:22:265 - is remove a note
21:19 Raiden: if i add don and remove note
21:19 KittyAdventure: hmmm... i suggestion you remove a bit triplet
21:19 Raiden: it makes doublet-doublet
21:19 Raiden: I don't want so many doublets in a row
21:19 Raiden: :(
21:19 KittyAdventure: hmm..
21:19 KittyAdventure: it's nice if 00:21:796 is don and 00:22:265 is not adding a note :/
21:20 Raiden: I prefer how it's now :(
21:20 KittyAdventure: but it's up to you U_U
21:21 KittyAdventure: but good news: 00:11:953 (10) - is remove, 00:21:796 - adding don, 00:22:265 (11) - remove that (if you doing), futsuu is lower than muzukashii
21:22 KittyAdventure: SR futsuu is 1.69 :3
21:22 Raiden: ;_________________;
21:22 Raiden: i don't want so many doublessss
21:22 KittyAdventure: i'm sorry ;___________;
21:23 KittyAdventure: okay than, it's fine now :3
21:23 KittyAdventure: nice map ;w; and shoot a star \w/
21:23 Raiden: omg >//<
21:23 Raiden: post log :3
21:23 Raiden: i kd :3

Raiden-muscle taiko pro >///<

DakeDekaane

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DakeDekaane 2016-02-27T05:59:44+00:00

¿Por qué esto no tiene Kantan?

Raiden

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Raiden 2016-02-27T06:01:13+00:00

La Futsuu es bastante fácil y <2.00 SR así que

salu2 dakesito pambisito

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-07-12T09:10:55+00:00

IRC mod

2016-07-12 17:17 Doyak: IRC mod then?
2016-07-12 17:17 Raiden: sure
2016-07-12 17:18 Doyak: As a short map, why not some higher ODs?
2016-07-12 17:18 Doyak: it would be hella easy to SS every diffs
2016-07-12 17:18 Raiden: can do 4 5 6
2016-07-12 17:18 Raiden: I guess
2016-07-12 17:18 Raiden: not higher
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: low bpm makes accing this a hell
2016-07-12 17:19 Doyak: Yeah, even the guidline says Oni = 6~7
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: the lower the BPM the lower the OD
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: that guideline is outdated
2016-07-12 17:19 Doyak: Yeah but some higher ones for short maps
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: HP OD is something dynamic
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: :p
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: yeah I'm gonna tone it up but I mean
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: it's case by case
2016-07-12 17:19 Raiden: dynamic
2016-07-12 17:19 Doyak: I see
2016-07-12 17:20 Raiden: we're going to rework that on the RC overhaul
2016-07-12 17:20 Raiden: done
2016-07-12 17:20 Raiden: OD4 5 6
2016-07-12 17:20 Doyak: and all HP9 for sure?
2016-07-12 17:20 Raiden: yeah
2016-07-12 17:20 Raiden: HP10 too harsh
2016-07-12 17:20 Raiden: less HP too easy
2016-07-12 17:21 Doyak: 175 notes could have like 7~8 from what I've seen
2016-07-12 17:21 Doyak: ex
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: I tested
2016-07-12 17:21 Doyak: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/732084 joeyclassic - seal.mp4]
2016-07-12 17:21 Doyak: this xD
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: at 40% of combo
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: you have already half bar
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: soo
2016-07-12 17:21 Doyak: alright
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: you have to miss quite a lot
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: to fail this
2016-07-12 17:21 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 17:22 Raiden: I can do 9 8,5 and 8 if you want
2016-07-12 17:22 Doyak: That seems a bit safer, I think? xD
2016-07-12 17:22 Raiden: :p
2016-07-12 17:22 Raiden: done
2016-07-12 17:23 Doyak: Futsuu:
2016-07-12 17:23 Doyak: 00:11:953 - 00:26:953 - why only these are blank?
2016-07-12 17:24 Raiden: good question
2016-07-12 17:24 Raiden: I remember having made this easier for a reason
2016-07-12 17:24 Raiden: do I remember the reason? well uh
2016-07-12 17:25 Doyak: SR? number of notes?
2016-07-12 17:25 Raiden: hm
2016-07-12 17:25 Raiden: nah
2016-07-12 17:25 Raiden: I don't look at SR nor notecount
2016-07-12 17:25 Raiden: but I noticed muzukashii is much denser so I guess I can add notes there
2016-07-12 17:25 Raiden: filled those 2
2016-07-12 17:26 Doyak: 00:29:531 - is empty but the first part is filled, intentional?
2016-07-12 17:27 Doyak: if you're filling both out, how about adding 00:14:531 - and 00:37:031 - as well for representing relative intensity?
2016-07-12 17:27 Raiden: nope, filled
2016-07-12 17:27 Raiden: looks like my copypaste is failing me
2016-07-12 17:28 Raiden: I need the breaks
2016-07-12 17:28 Raiden: I'm adding too many notes already
2016-07-12 17:29 Doyak: okay
2016-07-12 17:29 Raiden: people pare already going to yell at me for not using too many 4/1
2016-07-12 17:29 Raiden: *roll eyes*
2016-07-12 17:29 Doyak: 4/1 is not needed on this short 'Futsuu' I guess lol
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: it's definitely not
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: it's definitely not
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: lol
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: it's definitely not
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: lol
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: it's definitely not
2016-07-12 17:30 Raiden: lol
2016-07-12 17:32 Doyak: 00:36:562 - d sounds better for me, like the first part
2016-07-12 17:32 Doyak: what? lol
2016-07-12 17:35 Raiden: im back
2016-07-12 17:35 Raiden: xdd
2016-07-12 17:35 Doyak: xDDD
2016-07-12 17:35 Doyak: ok so what do you think about that
2016-07-12 17:36 Raiden: hm
2016-07-12 17:36 Raiden: I think the little variation is fine
2016-07-12 17:36 Raiden: both notes work for me
2016-07-12 17:36 Doyak: hmm 3 consecutive notes can stress a biiiiiiiiiiiiit
2016-07-12 17:36 Doyak: but not really important anyway xD
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden: ??
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden: wut
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden: stress
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden:

2016-07-12 17:37 Doyak: I always have trouble with high bpm same color singletaps
2016-07-12 17:37 Doyak: not in this case actually lol, maybe
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden: then stop singletapping
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden: and full alt
2016-07-12 17:37 Raiden: :^)
2016-07-12 17:37 Doyak: then I lose accuracy

2016-07-12 17:38 Raiden: I have been full alting since last february
2016-07-12 17:38 Raiden: it gets pretty easier to acc
2016-07-12 17:38 Doyak: hmm I shall try that
2016-07-12 17:39 Doyak: but idk, I've been all singletapping with 60k+ playcounts on standard
2016-07-12 17:39 Doyak: and 10k Taiko playcounts
2016-07-12 17:39 Raiden: it's pretty different on standard
2016-07-12 17:39 Raiden: you only use 1 hand xD
2016-07-12 17:40 Doyak: Yeah, but still that 'singletapping for 1/2s' is in my head so
2016-07-12 17:40 Raiden: :c
2016-07-12 17:40 Doyak: What did you add 00:18:281 - here, d or k?
2016-07-12 17:40 Raiden: nothing
2016-07-12 17:40 Raiden: what
2016-07-12 17:40 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 17:41 Doyak: oh it was not there?
2016-07-12 17:41 Doyak: wait
2016-07-12 17:41 Raiden: wait let me see next section
2016-07-12 17:41 Raiden: oh
2016-07-12 17:41 Raiden: a kat it is
2016-07-12 17:41 Doyak: Yeah
2016-07-12 17:41 Doyak: so you're gonna add k on the first section too?
2016-07-12 17:41 Raiden: yeah
2016-07-12 17:41 Raiden: why is my copypaste failing so much
2016-07-12 17:41 Raiden: lol
2016-07-12 17:41 Doyak: lol
2016-07-12 17:42 Doyak: I think it should be pretty much consistent now
2016-07-12 17:42 Doyak: so 00:10:781 - is d?
2016-07-12 17:42 Raiden: let me revise for a bit
2016-07-12 17:43 Raiden: there is nothing here
2016-07-12 17:43 Raiden: so I should add it
2016-07-12 17:43 Raiden: wait
2016-07-12 17:43 Raiden: I rather remove the second one
2016-07-12 17:43 Doyak: oh yeah that sounds better
2016-07-12 17:43 Doyak: not an intense part
2016-07-12 17:44 Raiden: done
2016-07-12 17:44 Raiden: well
2016-07-12 17:44 Raiden: this music barely changes intensity
2016-07-12 17:44 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 17:44 Doyak: xD
2016-07-12 17:44 Doyak: how the SR now?
2016-07-12 17:44 Doyak: how's*
2016-07-12 17:45 Raiden: 1,69 -> 1,74
2016-07-12 17:45 Raiden: literally 0,03* away from muzu
2016-07-12 17:45 Doyak: based SR
2016-07-12 17:45 Raiden: but SR is shit so
2016-07-12 17:45 Raiden: muzu is much denser
2016-07-12 17:45 Doyak: only because those 3/2s lel
2016-07-12 17:46 Raiden: :]
2016-07-12 17:46 Doyak: ok now muzu
2016-07-12 17:47 Raiden: updated just so I don't lose changes
2016-07-12 17:47 Doyak: 00:07:968 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - too many triplets imo, why not use some sounds on 00:10:546 - and things
2016-07-12 17:49 Raiden: hm
2016-07-12 17:49 Raiden: true
2016-07-12 17:49 Raiden: did some changes so from 2 triples it goes from doublet -> quad
2016-07-12 17:49 Doyak: seems more interesting
2016-07-12 17:49 Doyak: for the second section as well?
2016-07-12 17:49 Raiden: sec let me find it
2016-07-12 17:49 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 17:51 Raiden: one second
2016-07-12 17:51 Raiden: I'm talking to Onosaki about the RC stuff
2016-07-12 17:52 Raiden: ok
2016-07-12 17:52 Raiden: hm
2016-07-12 17:52 Raiden: yeah
2016-07-12 17:52 Raiden: 00:30:000 -
2016-07-12 17:52 Raiden: done
2016-07-12 17:53 Doyak: 00:14:531 - k? feels better transition to the next d
2016-07-12 17:54 Raiden: the k would rather go at 00:14:765 -
2016-07-12 17:54 Raiden: and since that sound is not mapped
2016-07-12 17:54 Raiden: I think it's better to keep the d
2016-07-12 17:54 Raiden: the k is mapped in the oni
2016-07-12 17:54 Doyak: ok
2016-07-12 17:55 Doyak: 00:22:031 - you can add a d or something to make it harder than Futsuu
2016-07-12 17:55 Raiden: hmm
2016-07-12 17:55 Raiden: sue
2016-07-12 17:55 Raiden: sure*
2016-07-12 17:55 Raiden: a kat
2016-07-12 17:55 Raiden: as the sound is the same
2016-07-12 17:55 Raiden: did the same 00:44:531 -
2016-07-12 17:56 Doyak: kat is fine too
2016-07-12 17:57 Doyak: muzu seems to be more perfect copy paste than Futsuu
2016-07-12 17:57 Doyak: I don't see any variation lol
2016-07-12 17:57 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 17:57 Raiden: it looks like I fucked up futsuus omehow
2016-07-12 17:57 Doyak: You can put some variations too, or perfect copy paste on Futsuu for consistency lol
2016-07-12 17:57 Raiden: I prefer the second
2016-07-12 17:57 Raiden: less work
2016-07-12 17:57 Raiden:

D
2016-07-12 17:59 Doyak: Oni:
2016-07-12 17:59 Doyak: 00:21:562 - this is the only melody you didn't mapped lol
2016-07-12 17:59 Raiden: OH MY GOD
2016-07-12 17:59 Raiden: DOING THAT
2016-07-12 17:59 Raiden: MUZU WENT DOWN TO 1,73
2016-07-12 18:00 Raiden: so now it's easier than futsuu
2016-07-12 18:00 Doyak: LOOOOOOOL
2016-07-12 18:00 Raiden: it's ok lol
2016-07-12 18:00 Raiden: Tem Shop's Oni is easier
2016-07-12 18:00 Raiden: than Muzu
2016-07-12 18:00 Doyak: come to think of it
2016-07-12 18:00 Raiden: ok added a don
2016-07-12 18:00 Doyak: you can do what you initionally did on muzu on futsuu
2016-07-12 18:00 Raiden: same 00:44:062 -
2016-07-12 18:01 Raiden: nah
2016-07-12 18:01 Raiden: it's fine
2016-07-12 18:01 Raiden: it's still denser
2016-07-12 18:01 Raiden: that's how I wanted the diff anyway
2016-07-12 18:01 Doyak: damn SR xDDD
2016-07-12 18:01 Raiden: jesus
2016-07-12 18:02 Doyak: 00:17:578 - triplet like you did for 00:20:156 -
2016-07-12 18:02 Raiden: it's not the same
2016-07-12 18:03 Raiden: the rhythm I used is pretty different if you notice where I stopped patterning
2016-07-12 18:03 Raiden: using a triplet there would kill the rhythm
2016-07-12 18:03 Doyak: I see
2016-07-12 18:06 Doyak: checking general issues
2016-07-12 18:06 Raiden: sorry if I delay a bit the responses
2016-07-12 18:06 Raiden: I'm working with this google doc
2016-07-12 18:06 Raiden: xD
2016-07-12 18:09 Doyak: What a BN, this map doesn't have any general issues xD
2016-07-12 18:09 Doyak: I guess the mod is done then
2016-07-12 18:09 Raiden:

Nwolf

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Nwolf 2016-07-15T09:58:03+00:00

Raiden is a pie

[futsuu.]

00:11:953 (10) - Would change this to a don so it follows 00:03:750 (8,9,10,11) - and also so it's different from 00:13:125 (12,13,14,15) -

00:22:265 (32) - I think it would be quite nice if you move this 00:21:562 - here, it fits the song better as mapping that triplet isn't really part of the song while the 1/1 notes would be C: (also getting here in Oni!!!!!)

00:44:062 - ^

[muzukashii.]

00:06:796 (21,22) - Pitch is falling here again so maybe just do kd twice.
>00:29:296 (21,22) - ^

I think the spots where Muzukashii difficulty is increasing with each repetition could be made slightly easier so the gap from futsuu to muzukashii becomes a little bit smaller, I think it's slightly too close right now.

00:03:046 (10) - could be deleted for example. There isn't much for this note to begin with so it shouldn't hurt too much
>00:11:015 (12) - 00:18:398 (2) - (especially this one) (00:18:515 (3) - can be a kat then)
>00:25:546 (10) - 00:33:515 (12) - 00:40:898 (2) - (00:41:015 (3) - ^)

[oni.]

Just a small suggestion, it's kinda fine already: 00:07:148 (26) - Could be 00:06:210 - here instead to somewhat follow that 1/8 doublet! Same are: 00:18:398 (2) - 00:29:648 (26) - 00:40:898 (2) -

00:22:031 (17) - Would really recommend a don for this. If you listen to the song 00:21:562 (15,17) - these are the same and 00:21:796 (16,18) - these are the same. 15/17 are deeper, 16/18 are higher.
>00:44:531 (17) - ^

weff.

Raiden

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Topic Starter

Raiden 2016-07-19T03:19:25+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Raiden is a pie

[futsuu.]

00:11:953 (10) - Would change this to a don so it follows 00:03:750 (8,9,10,11) - and also so it's different from 00:13:125 (12,13,14,15) -

00:22:265 (32) - I think it would be quite nice if you move this 00:21:562 - here, it fits the song better as mapping that triplet isn't really part of the song while the 1/1 notes would be C: (also getting here in Oni!!!!!)

00:44:062 - ^

[muzukashii.]

00:06:796 (21,22) - Pitch is falling here again so maybe just do kd twice.
>00:29:296 (21,22) - ^

I think the spots where Muzukashii difficulty is increasing with each repetition could be made slightly easier so the gap from futsuu to muzukashii becomes a little bit smaller, I think it's slightly too close right now.

00:03:046 (10) - could be deleted for example. There isn't much for this note to begin with so it shouldn't hurt too much
>00:11:015 (12) - 00:18:398 (2) - (especially this one) (00:18:515 (3) - can be a kat then)
>00:25:546 (10) - 00:33:515 (12) - 00:40:898 (2) - (00:41:015 (3) - ^)

[oni.]

Just a small suggestion, it's kinda fine already: 00:07:148 (26) - Could be 00:06:210 - here instead to somewhat follow that 1/8 doublet! Same are: 00:18:398 (2) - 00:29:648 (26) - 00:40:898 (2) - applied 1st and 3rd. 2nd and 4th are clear 1/4 :c

00:22:031 (17) - Would really recommend a don for this. If you listen to the song 00:21:562 (15,17) - these are the same and 00:21:796 (16,18) - these are the same. 15/17 are deeper, 16/18 are higher. I think keeping all 3 as kats works better as the tone is kept higher for the last notes. Some kind of a buildup I guess.
>00:44:531 (17) - ^

weff.