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SELEN - Reverse World [OsuMania]

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Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, 17 December 2022 at 19:13:46

Artist: SELEN
Title: Reverse World
Tags: ITSUHA. SELEN&KAREN karen trance core trancecore electronic instrumental Starry- Kuo Kyoka Akasha-
BPM: 185
Filesize: 3205kb
Play Time: 01:45
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced - 4Key (2,44 stars, 861 notes)
  2. Akasha's Normal - 4Key (2,18 stars, 633 notes)
  3. Extra: Inverse - 4Key (5,87 stars, 1564 notes)
  4. Extra: Universe - 4Key (4,91 stars, 1696 notes)
  5. Hard - 4Key (3,27 stars, 1161 notes)
  6. Starry's Insane - 4Key (4,21 stars, 1435 notes)
Download: SELEN - Reverse World
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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[Crz]Polymath9
7 posts
Joined September 2013
[Crz]Polymath9
chatlog lol
23:25 [Crz]Polymath9: 00:04:682 (4682|0) -  you could add a note at here
23:28 Kyousuke-: 00:04:682 - nice highlight!
23:28 Kyousuke-: added
23:28 [Crz]Polymath9: 00:29:979 (29979|1,29979|3,30060|2,30223|2,30304|1,30304|0,30385|3,30466|2,30547|0,30628|3,30628|1,30709|3,30790|2,30871|2,30952|3,30952|0,31033|0,31114|1,31196|1) - 
23:29 [Crz]Polymath9: this part is strage
23:29 [Crz]Polymath9: strange
23:29 Kyousuke-: hmm it was intended to make it jack
23:29 Kyousuke-: but i can reconsider it to change
23:29 [Crz]Polymath9: 00:29:979 (29979|1) - i think piano jacks start at here
23:30 [Crz]Polymath9: not two beats after
23:30 Kyousuke-: 00:30:060 (30060|2,30223|2,30628|3,30709|3,30790|2,30871|2,30952|0,31033|0,31114|1,31196|1) - same sound
23:30 [Crz]Polymath9: so i think jacks should start at 00:29:979 (29979|1) - 
23:31 Kyousuke-: 00:29:979 (29979|1,30060|2,30223|2,30304|1,30385|3,30466|2) - yea this sound is quite similiar, but it's slightly different
23:31 Kyousuke-: but i will consider it
23:31 [Crz]Polymath9: ok, go on
23:32 Kyousuke-: hey thanks for modding lol
23:32 [Crz]Polymath9: 00:40:358 (40358|3) -  same strange
23:33 Kyousuke-: lol you got it
23:33 Kyousuke-: okay will change later
23:34 [Crz]Polymath9: 01:02:087 (62087|1) -  u could add some sv here
23:34 [Crz]Polymath9: because of the fx
23:34 Kyousuke-: about the SV i will add later
23:34 Kyousuke-: can you suggest something
23:34 Kyousuke-: i'm not good at sv lol
23:35 [Crz]Polymath9: 01:34:033 (94033|1) - this ln could get longer up to 1 beat long
23:38 [Crz]Polymath9: 00:50:574 (50574|3) -  these notes in the half of a beat, could add to two note a time
23:38 [Crz]Polymath9: not 3 notes - 1 note - 3 notes - 1 note, but 3-2-3-2
23:38 Kyousuke-: 01:34:033 (94033|1) - the sound is only last at there
23:39 Kyousuke-: hmm the sound is not enough loud to be 2 notes
23:39 Kyousuke-: more suitable for one note bcs of light sound
23:39 [Crz]Polymath9: 01:35:331 (95331|2) -  also here
23:39 Kyousuke-: yes it's the only long pianos
23:39 Kyousuke-: and the others is single piano
23:39 Kyousuke-: i can't extend it ;-;
23:39 [Crz]Polymath9: no i mean the saw sound
23:40 Kyousuke-: yes
23:40 [Crz]Polymath9: the saw sound sounds like lasted for 1 beat
23:41 Kyousuke-: 01:29:898 (89898|0) - you mean like this?
23:41 Kyousuke-: can you give me a screenshot lol
23:41 [Crz]Polymath9: how to screenshot
23:41 [Crz]Polymath9: ok i listend again and i found that the rhythm of saw sound is quite complex orz
23:42 Kyousuke-: f12
23:42 Kyousuke-: or use puush lol
23:42 [Crz]Polymath9: how to send screenshot?
23:42 Kyousuke-: click shift+f12
23:43 [Crz]Polymath9: ok  i know
23:43 [Crz]Polymath9: thx
23:43 Kyousuke-: it will screenshooted and automatically published
23:44 [Crz]Polymath9: er... i think the ln is neednt to be change now
23:45 [Crz]Polymath9: i made a mistake
23:46 Kyousuke-: lol okay it's fine
23:46 [Crz]Polymath9: 01:41:331 (101331|0) - this jack is kind of stuck
23:46 Kyousuke-: i have no idea
23:46 Kyousuke-: many of kind of maps used that pattern tho
23:46 Kyousuke-: it's the usual stream
23:47 [Crz]Polymath9: ok
23:47 [Crz]Polymath9: im bad at left hand lol
23:48 Kyousuke-: lol
23:48 Kyousuke-: i will say it too if i'm suck at left hand
23:48 Kyousuke-: but i'm left handed
23:48 Kyousuke-: :>
23:49 [Crz]Polymath9: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5321648 how about make the ending like this?
23:49 [Crz]Polymath9: and add sv
23:50 Kyousuke-: well okay it's better

ok, my first modding...i think it could be helpful
KcHecKa
279 posts
Joined June 2014
KcHecKa
osu!mania shitty mod lol from the hecka
--------------------
Overall:
Right "off the bat", I'm gonna go ahead and let you know that you should like make 2 lower difficulties as well
anyways, the offset and BPM seem fine enough.
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Extra:

Nice patterns in the beginning.
Do you really want to do this? 00:10:439 (10439|1,10439|0,10520|0,10520|2,10520|3) -
it would be a bit awkward/tricky to pull off.

00:10:520 - 00:14:736 nice stops, though i would've went with a constant stream here, this is acceptable.

Honestly, you could either remove this note 00:20:412 (20412|3) - or do a completely diff. pattern
I don't appreciate the usage of unnecessary jacks..

00:26:250 around here you have some more note gaps, at this point i would just fill in the notes,
and put jumps on the more significant sounds of the map. i hope this doesnt be considered "ghost notes"but
hey i mean, its jumpstreams. people dont seem to understand the meaning of jumpstreams in osu

ON SECOND THOUGHT, SCRATCH THAT, KEEP WHAT YOU HAVE HERE

00:29:979 nice jacks!! (fan of good jacks)

00:40:358 (40358|0,40358|3,40358|2,40439|3) - "Literally Shit"

i mean i can hear the jacks, but the way you were inconsistent, makes it seem bad, so just go back and take a look,
you should see what i mean

why have these weird jack thingys here again and again 01:10:844 (70844|3,70844|2,70844|0) -
01:11:493 (71493|0,71493|3,71493|2) -

why???


Honestly at 01:11:493 you should use "1/3" beat snap divisor, then you could put some legit jacks here..

listen carefully at that part ^^

The rest of the map at this point has jacks and burst, all kinds of good stuff
i would recommend keeping them as it boost the overall SR, (and i know thats what you were going for :) )
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notes:
and actual good map really, just some minor issues in the beginning, would recommend making "normal/easy"
difficulty as well.. .good luck
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

KcHecKa wrote:

osu!mania shitty mod lol from the hecka
--------------------
Overall:
Right "off the bat", I'm gonna go ahead and let you know that you should like make 2 lower difficulties as well yea the lower diffs is still wip lol
anyways, the offset and BPM seem fine enough.
--------------------
Extra:

Nice patterns in the beginning.
Do you really want to do this? 00:10:439 (10439|1,10439|0,10520|0,10520|2,10520|3) -
it would be a bit awkward/tricky to pull off. yea it can't be avoided, a kick sound + finish sound. btw it's very usual in mania mapping and of course passable

00:10:520 - 00:14:736 nice stops, though i would've went with a constant stream here, this is acceptable. yea i only mapping the audible sound

Honestly, you could either remove this note 00:20:412 (20412|3) - or do a completely diff. pattern
I don't appreciate the usage of unnecessary jacks.. most player can pass that, and yea if i use a completely [12][34] pattern it will be too much bcs it's already used in the part before. It's like abusing the pattern lmao, but will consider later

00:26:250 around here you have some more note gaps, at this point i would just fill in the notes,
and put jumps on the more significant sounds of the map. i hope this doesnt be considered "ghost notes"but
hey i mean, its jumpstreams. people dont seem to understand the meaning of jumpstreams in osu is the part before isn't 'jumpstreams' enough for you lmao. btw it's not enough audible to be mapped, so it can be considered as ghost notes like you say.

ON SECOND THOUGHT, SCRATCH THAT, KEEP WHAT YOU HAVE HERE

00:29:979 nice jacks!! (fan of good jacks) :>

00:40:358 (40358|0,40358|3,40358|2,40439|3) - "Literally Shit"

i mean i can hear the jacks, but the way you were inconsistent, makes it seem bad, so just go back and take a look,
you should see what i mean isn't those are the same with the one that you say nice? (00:29:979 - ) the difference is just the 3-noters finish sound, and the rest is the same part

why have these weird jack thingys here again and again 01:10:844 (70844|3,70844|2,70844|0) -
01:11:493 (71493|0,71493|3,71493|2) -

why??? it can't be helped lol, and it's should be like that. go take a look on another hard maps


Honestly at 01:11:493 you should use "1/3" beat snap divisor, then you could put some legit jacks here.. wot 1/3? i didn't hear any sound that should be mapped at 1/3 beatsnap lmao

listen carefully at that part ^^

The rest of the map at this point has jacks and burst, all kinds of good stuff
i would recommend keeping them as it boost the overall SR, (and i know thats what you were going for :) )
--------------------
notes:
and actual good map really, just some minor issues in the beginning, would recommend making "normal/easy"
difficulty as well.. .good luck
thanks, but nothing changed here. still appreciate that :>
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Another Lie
Another Lie
Mod req dari https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5207373/
Modku berdasarkan consistency (kalo musicnya berisik, kalo clean mah laen cerita)
Pitch mah idk, musik terlalu berisik
Hard
00:22:844 (22844|1) - knp cuma 1 note? padahal sama suara kyk 00:21:547 (21547|1,21547|0) - saran, make it two / look for other modders
00:24:141 (24141|3) - ini suara sama kyk 00:25:439 (25439|1,25439|0) - tapi knp ini yg 2? (saran, yg 1 dijadiin 2 / sebaliknya)
00:28:277 (28277|1,29006|0,29331|0) - knp cuma 1 aja? sementara suara yg sama sih 00:27:709 (27709|3,27709|1,28033|3,28033|2) - saran, bikin 2 note buat yg disini 00:28:277 (28277|1,29006|0,29331|0) -
00:30:628 (30628|1) - ini juga sama, kok cuma 1 note? suara sama kyk note ini 00:29:979 (29979|3,29979|0) - saran masih sama yg diatas sendiri
Maaf cuma itu aja, problem yg sama sih masih fine aja soalnya masih enak ditangan. Kalo diatas mah, rasanya hambar ga ada garamnya.
Kurang salty gitu :D
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

Another Lie wrote:

Mod req dari https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5207373/
Modku berdasarkan consistency (kalo musicnya berisik, kalo clean mah laen cerita)
Pitch mah idk, musik terlalu berisik lmao it's trance core bruh
Hard
00:22:844 (22844|1) - knp cuma 1 note? padahal sama suara kyk 00:21:547 (21547|1,21547|0) - saran, make it two / look for other modders
00:24:141 (24141|3) - ini suara sama kyk 00:25:439 (25439|1,25439|0) - tapi knp ini yg 2? (saran, yg 1 dijadiin 2 / sebaliknya)
00:28:277 (28277|1,29006|0,29331|0) - knp cuma 1 aja? sementara suara yg sama sih 00:27:709 (27709|3,27709|1,28033|3,28033|2) - saran, bikin 2 note buat yg disini 00:28:277 (28277|1,29006|0,29331|0) -
^ itu gara" ada single streamnya. Kalo gw bikin double di setiap kick nanti jdi nya jumpstream (malah lbh cocok ke insane trus starnya pasti naek drastis) gw cuma fokus di melodinya doang, sedangkan kicknya gw cuma taro disetiap double white tick klo ad stream. Klo ga ad stream ya kyk biasa single-double, dagian penggunaannya konsisten kok .w.
00:30:628 (30628|1) - ini juga sama, kok cuma 1 note? suara sama kyk note ini 00:29:979 (29979|3,29979|0) - saran masih sama yg diatas sendiri yg ini added wkwk, karena streamnya blom mulai
Maaf cuma itu aja, problem yg sama sih masih fine aja soalnya masih enak ditangan. Kalo diatas mah, rasanya hambar ga ada garamnya.
Kurang salty gitu :D lel kurang salty :v
thanks~~
Muu-chan
1,605 posts
Joined August 2014
Muu-chan
Halo M4M here~
1|2|3|4

Extra
* 00:09:547 - how bout double for chord?
* 00:09:871 - same^
* 00:11:169 - sampai 00:15:709 - kusaranin yg di triple itu utk pergantian chord organnya aja. Sisanya double 1/2 aja utk kick
> 00:11:817 - chord
> 00:13:114 - chord
> 00:14:412 - chord
> 00:15:709 - chord
* 00:16:844 - sampai 00:20:898 - itu mungkin bisa dipertimbangin lagi, ada note di kolom 1 terus-terusan, 4 detik lumayan panjang lhoh ditambah pola2 yg lain.
* 00:30:223 - kusaranin https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5347895 karena 00:30:060 (30060|3,30223|2) - pitchnya sama, 00:30:628 (30628|3,30790|2) - ini juga, dan jack disitu mnurutku ngga terlalu di butuhin biar kaya pattern drum yg lain aja.
* 00:56:574 - kelupaan triple utk chord?
* 01:20:412 - sampai 01:22:844 - dipertimbangin lagi yg kolom 4
* 01:40:520 - sampai 01:42:628 - ini juga
This is too ET for meh =w=b nice

Good luck kyou semoga membantu :)
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

Muu-chan wrote:

Halo M4M here~
1|2|3|4

Extra
* 00:09:547 - how bout double for chord? oh yaa thx ud ingetin =w=
* 00:09:871 - same^ sippo
* 00:11:169 - sampai 00:15:709 - kusaranin yg di triple itu utk pergantian chord organnya aja. Sisanya double 1/2 aja utk kick
> 00:11:817 - chord
> 00:13:114 - chord
> 00:14:412 - chord
> 00:15:709 - chord
^ hmm klo setiap double white tick itu triple bakal sama kyk yg laen (00:11:817 - 00:12:141 - ), karena basically itu cuma kick. Klo di triple yg gw taro itu buat impact piano nya, yg ud jelas itu part climaxnya :3
* 00:16:844 - sampai 00:20:898 - itu mungkin bisa dipertimbangin lagi, ada note di kolom 1 terus-terusan, 4 detik lumayan panjang lhoh ditambah pola2 yg lain. hmm it can't be helped. patternnya uda paling cocok imo, masih comfortable sih =w= para testplayer jga bsa pass dgn mudah wkwk
* 00:30:223 - kusaranin https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5347895 karena 00:30:060 (30060|3,30223|2) - pitchnya sama, but gw gamau klo jacknya ada 3 D:00:30:628 (30628|3,30790|2) - ini juga, dan jack disitu mnurutku ngga terlalu di butuhin biar kaya pattern drum yg lain aja. hmm klo jack itu emg gara" pitchnya sama, btw itu emg intended biar challenging :3 (like 00:41:006 (41006|1,41087|1,41169|3,41250|3,41331|0,41412|0,41493|2,41574|2) - ) tenang itu masih passable xD wkwk
* 00:56:574 - kelupaan triple utk chord? oh iya kelupaan :3
* 01:20:412 - sampai 01:22:844 - dipertimbangin lagi yg kolom 4
* 01:40:520 - sampai 01:42:628 - ini juga
^ hue itu klo ada pattern yg lbh better lgi bakal gw pertimbangin, karena itu pattern terbaik sementara yg masih passable buat para player =w=
This is too ET for meh =w=b nice thanks~~ ><

Good luck kyou semoga membantu :)
tq very much muu~~


*aaaa btw thanks for the star Dereku!
[-Star_Lenz-]
583 posts
Joined September 2014
[-Star_Lenz-]
Hi Kyou-san ^^

Req mod via chat

Sorry for late mod T.T

Col : 1|2|3|4

Hard
00:00:628 (628|2,709|3) - ctrl+g dan ini juga 00:00:790 (790|0,871|1) - ctrl+g kenapa ? well 00:00:628 (628|2) - dari sini suara udah beda tapi searah seperti ini 00:00:142 (142|0,142|3,223|1,304|2,385|3,466|0,547|1) -
jika di accept 00:01:439 (1439|0,1520|1,1601|2,1682|3) - akan terasa feelnya disini
00:03:628 (3628|3) - pindah ke col 1 00:03:385 (3385|3,3466|2,3547|1) - tanggung ngikut suara picth piano dari tinggi ke rendah
00:08:574 (8574|3,8655|2) - ctrl+g 00:08:250 (8250|2,8331|3,8412|1,8493|0,8574|2,8655|3,8736|1,8817|0) - baka enak ini 00:08:898 (8898|3,8979|2,9060|0,9141|1) -
00:12:790 (12790|2,12871|3) - ctrl+g variasi dong ngetangga mulu :3
00:19:682 (19682|2,19763|3,19925|0,20006|2,20087|1) - jangan di pikirkan aku suka sama pattern ini :v
00:23:087 (23087|0,23169|1) - ctrl+g biar enak pass lanjut stairs kesini 00:23:250 (23250|3,23331|2) -
00:28:277 (28277|1) - oyyy ini ngikut apa :'v hapus itu lalu 00:28:196 - add 1 note & 00:28:358 - add 2 note same 00:27:223 (27223|2,27385|0,27385|1,27547|2,27709|1,27709|3,27871|0,28033|2,28033|3) -
00:29:979 - pass di test play gak feels banget u,u 00:30:060 (30060|1,30223|2,30385|0,30547|3) - recomended http://puu.sh/pmsNn/01a4ae14fd.png
00:47:006 (47006|1,47169|0,47331|1,47493|2,47655|0,47817|1) - ini usahakan jangan kosong di col 4 sama kamu di atur lagi ajah :3
01:02:006 (62006|1) - hmmm ghost note kah ? menurut ku delete ajah nanti bakal flow banget pass disini 01:02:087 (62087|0) -
01:02:898 (62898|1,63223|2) - ctrl+g 01:02:898 (62898|0,62898|1) - ini beda sama 01:02:412 (62412|0,62412|1) - ini suaranya
01:22:682 (82682|1,82763|0,83006|1,83087|0) - ctrl+g tangga mulu biar enak pass maennya >< jika di ctrl+g lebih asik variasinya :v 01:22:520 (82520|3,82601|2,82682|0,82763|1,82844|3,82925|2,83006|0,83087|1) -
01:42:223 - missing note ada suara ngeenggggg~ :v *greeekkk
01:45:223 (105223|0) - move col 3

Sorry banyak ctrl+g nya T.T

Extra
00:05:736 (5736|1,5817|2,5898|0,5979|1) - ctrl+g jadikan arah yang berlawanan 00:05:412 (5412|0,5493|1,5574|2,5655|3) -
00:09:547 (9547|2) - my feeling delete
00:23:331 (23331|1,23412|2) - ctrl+g 00:23:412 (23412|2,23574|2) - enak gak ini gini :'v
00:30:871 (30871|2) - ghost note ini delete
00:48:709 (48709|1) - delete 00:47:817 (47817|3,47817|0,47898|2,47979|1) - same 00:47:817 (47817|3,47817|0,47898|2,47979|1) -
01:02:006 (62006|2,62006|3) - delete langsung 01:02:087 (62087|0,62087|1,62169|3,62169|2,62250|0,62250|1,62331|2,62331|3) - disini udah beda suara dari ini juga 01:01:439 (61439|1,61439|0,61520|2,61520|3,61601|0,61601|1,61682|3,61682|2,61763|0,61763|1,61844|3,61844|2,61925|1,61925|0,62006|2,62006|3) - recomended http://puu.sh/pmu0O/ad70561d75.png

Good luck sorry jika modnya tidak bisa bagus seperti sesuai harapan T.T
_underjoy
704 posts
Joined January 2013
_underjoy
small talk about the minijacks
14:26 Kyousuke-: hi underjoy!
14:26 _underjoy: hiho
14:26 Kyousuke-: would you a testplay? xD
14:26 _underjoy: o sure
14:26 _underjoy: im warming atm
14:26 _underjoy: so please warm me up
14:26 *Kyousuke- is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/995239 ITSUHA. - SELEN - Reverse World]
14:27 Kyousuke-: oops 5* star map
14:27 _underjoy: oh I feared its a tv size
14:27 _underjoy: oke lets see
14:27 Kyousuke-: seems like you guys are attending a tournament? o.o
14:27 _underjoy: yes
14:27 _underjoy: i'm the host
14:29 Kyousuke-: wow
14:29 _underjoy: those transitions dang
14:29 _underjoy: you should change them
14:29 Kyousuke-: lmao
14:29 Kyousuke-: why every player missed at that part
14:29 Kyousuke-: still can't find the best pattern
14:30 Kyousuke-: thanks for testplay btw xd
14:30 _underjoy: 00:20:087 (20087|0,20128|1,20169|2,20209|3,20250|1,20250|0,20331|3,20331|2,20412|0,20412|3,20493|2,20493|1,20574|0,20574|3) -
14:30 _underjoy: patterns like this are the problem
14:30 _underjoy: where you switch jumptrills with a minijack
14:30 _underjoy: 00:20:331 (20331|3) - delete this note and it's ok
14:31 _underjoy: 01:10:844 (70844|0,70925|0,70925|1,71493|0,71574|1,71574|0) -
14:31 _underjoy: those are hard too
14:31 Kyousuke-: hmm how about [12][34] pattern instead?
14:32 Kyousuke-: is that really problem ._.
14:32 _underjoy: the part is just highlighted?
14:32 Kyousuke-: most player can pass that part
14:32 _underjoy: or the earlier
14:32 Kyousuke-: yea the mini jack
14:32 _underjoy: 01:10:925 (70925|0,71574|0) - I would delete those two notes
14:32 _underjoy: to simplify but keep the 3-chord
14:33 Kyousuke-: will consider later
14:33 _underjoy: you know, its just one little note but if you mess on it (which is easy to mess on) then you get the whole section wrong
14:33 Kyousuke-: 01:41:331 - i thought the most problem is in this part lol
14:33 _underjoy: 01:20:655 (80655|0,81304|2,81952|0,82277|0) - those are the worst
14:34 _underjoy: because you get a jack when transitioning into split jumptrill with a 3-chord
14:34 Kyousuke-: nah
14:34 Kyousuke-: seems like i will remove that mini jacks on all 3 noters
14:34 _underjoy: 01:41:169 (101169|3,101169|0,101250|2,101250|1) - better make it 12 34
14:35 _underjoy: 01:21:790 (81790|1) - here move this to 3
14:35 _underjoy: and change the 3-chord
14:35 _underjoy: so it would be [34][12][34][12] first and then [12][34][12][34 later
14:35 _underjoy: this is a subtle change and it helps flow between trills better
14:36 Kyousuke-: can you give a screenshot
14:36 _underjoy: 01:39:871 (99871|0,99871|3,99952|2,99952|1,100033|3,100033|2,100033|0) - those are hard but well if you want they can stay
14:36 _underjoy: sure
14:37 _underjoy: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5355976
14:37 _underjoy: this basically
14:38 _underjoy: and in the last part of chorus you also have jacks
14:38 _underjoy: you can delete the minijacks too
14:39 _underjoy: this is much more pleasant to play because the minijacks force too much difficulty and are annoying
14:39 _underjoy: better make one note single for playability than just blindly map the music as it is :/
14:39 _underjoy: other than that, nice jumpstream map
14:39 Kyousuke-: okay!
14:40 Kyousuke-: thank you very much :D
14:40 _underjoy: np :P
14:40 Kyousuke-: you can post this
14:40 Kyousuke-: if you want
14:41 _underjoy: well nothing big\
14:42 _underjoy: but okay, lets have a trace of the discussion xD
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

[-Star_Lenz-] wrote:

Hi Kyou-san ^^

Req mod via chat

Sorry for late mod T.T

Col : 1|2|3|4

Hard
00:00:628 (628|2,709|3) - ctrl+g dan ini juga 00:00:790 (790|0,871|1) - ctrl+g kenapa ? well 00:00:628 (628|2) - dari sini suara udah beda tapi searah seperti ini 00:00:142 (142|0,142|3,223|1,304|2,385|3,466|0,547|1) -
jika di accept 00:01:439 (1439|0,1520|1,1601|2,1682|3) - akan terasa feelnya disini
00:03:628 (3628|3) - pindah ke col 1 00:03:385 (3385|3,3466|2,3547|1) - tanggung ngikut suara picth piano dari tinggi ke rendah
00:08:574 (8574|3,8655|2) - ctrl+g 00:08:250 (8250|2,8331|3,8412|1,8493|0,8574|2,8655|3,8736|1,8817|0) - baka enak ini 00:08:898 (8898|3,8979|2,9060|0,9141|1) -
00:12:790 (12790|2,12871|3) - ctrl+g variasi dong ngetangga mulu :3
00:19:682 (19682|2,19763|3,19925|0,20006|2,20087|1) - jangan di pikirkan aku suka sama pattern ini :v
00:23:087 (23087|0,23169|1) - ctrl+g biar enak pass lanjut stairs kesini 00:23:250 (23250|3,23331|2) -
00:28:277 (28277|1) - oyyy ini ngikut apa :'v hapus itu lalu 00:28:196 - add 1 note & 00:28:358 - add 2 note same 00:27:223 (27223|2,27385|0,27385|1,27547|2,27709|1,27709|3,27871|0,28033|2,28033|3) -
00:29:979 - pass di test play gak feels banget u,u 00:30:060 (30060|1,30223|2,30385|0,30547|3) - recomended http://puu.sh/pmsNn/01a4ae14fd.png
00:47:006 (47006|1,47169|0,47331|1,47493|2,47655|0,47817|1) - ini usahakan jangan kosong di col 4 sama kamu di atur lagi ajah :3
01:02:006 (62006|1) - hmmm ghost note kah ? menurut ku delete ajah nanti bakal flow banget pass disini 01:02:087 (62087|0) -
01:02:898 (62898|1,63223|2) - ctrl+g 01:02:898 (62898|0,62898|1) - ini beda sama 01:02:412 (62412|0,62412|1) - ini suaranya
01:22:682 (82682|1,82763|0,83006|1,83087|0) - ctrl+g tangga mulu biar enak pass maennya >< jika di ctrl+g lebih asik variasinya :v 01:22:520 (82520|3,82601|2,82682|0,82763|1,82844|3,82925|2,83006|0,83087|1) -
01:42:223 - missing note ada suara ngeenggggg~ :v *greeekkk
01:45:223 (105223|0) - move col 3

Sorry banyak ctrl+g nya T.T

Extra
00:05:736 (5736|1,5817|2,5898|0,5979|1) - ctrl+g jadikan arah yang berlawanan 00:05:412 (5412|0,5493|1,5574|2,5655|3) -
00:09:547 (9547|2) - my feeling delete
00:23:331 (23331|1,23412|2) - ctrl+g 00:23:412 (23412|2,23574|2) - enak gak ini gini :'v
00:30:871 (30871|2) - ghost note ini delete
00:48:709 (48709|1) - delete 00:47:817 (47817|3,47817|0,47898|2,47979|1) - same 00:47:817 (47817|3,47817|0,47898|2,47979|1) -
01:02:006 (62006|2,62006|3) - delete langsung 01:02:087 (62087|0,62087|1,62169|3,62169|2,62250|0,62250|1,62331|2,62331|3) - disini udah beda suara dari ini juga 01:01:439 (61439|1,61439|0,61520|2,61520|3,61601|0,61601|1,61682|3,61682|2,61763|0,61763|1,61844|3,61844|2,61925|1,61925|0,62006|2,62006|3) - recomended http://puu.sh/pmu0O/ad70561d75.png

Good luck sorry jika modnya tidak bisa bagus seperti sesuai harapan T.T
thanks lenz! applied some =w=



_underjoy wrote:

small talk about the minijacks
14:26 Kyousuke-: hi underjoy!
14:26 _underjoy: hiho
14:26 Kyousuke-: would you a testplay? xD
14:26 _underjoy: o sure
14:26 _underjoy: im warming atm
14:26 _underjoy: so please warm me up
14:26 *Kyousuke- is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/995239 ITSUHA. - SELEN - Reverse World]
14:27 Kyousuke-: oops 5* star map
14:27 _underjoy: oh I feared its a tv size
14:27 _underjoy: oke lets see
14:27 Kyousuke-: seems like you guys are attending a tournament? o.o
14:27 _underjoy: yes
14:27 _underjoy: i'm the host
14:29 Kyousuke-: wow
14:29 _underjoy: those transitions dang
14:29 _underjoy: you should change them
14:29 Kyousuke-: lmao
14:29 Kyousuke-: why every player missed at that part
14:29 Kyousuke-: still can't find the best pattern
14:30 Kyousuke-: thanks for testplay btw xd
14:30 _underjoy: 00:20:087 (20087|0,20128|1,20169|2,20209|3,20250|1,20250|0,20331|3,20331|2,20412|0,20412|3,20493|2,20493|1,20574|0,20574|3) -
14:30 _underjoy: patterns like this are the problem
14:30 _underjoy: where you switch jumptrills with a minijack
14:30 _underjoy: 00:20:331 (20331|3) - delete this note and it's ok
14:31 _underjoy: 01:10:844 (70844|0,70925|0,70925|1,71493|0,71574|1,71574|0) -
14:31 _underjoy: those are hard too
14:31 Kyousuke-: hmm how about [12][34] pattern instead?
14:32 Kyousuke-: is that really problem ._.
14:32 _underjoy: the part is just highlighted?
14:32 Kyousuke-: most player can pass that part
14:32 _underjoy: or the earlier
14:32 Kyousuke-: yea the mini jack
14:32 _underjoy: 01:10:925 (70925|0,71574|0) - I would delete those two notes
14:32 _underjoy: to simplify but keep the 3-chord
14:33 Kyousuke-: will consider later
14:33 _underjoy: you know, its just one little note but if you mess on it (which is easy to mess on) then you get the whole section wrong
14:33 Kyousuke-: 01:41:331 - i thought the most problem is in this part lol
14:33 _underjoy: 01:20:655 (80655|0,81304|2,81952|0,82277|0) - those are the worst
14:34 _underjoy: because you get a jack when transitioning into split jumptrill with a 3-chord
14:34 Kyousuke-: nah
14:34 Kyousuke-: seems like i will remove that mini jacks on all 3 noters
14:34 _underjoy: 01:41:169 (101169|3,101169|0,101250|2,101250|1) - better make it 12 34
14:35 _underjoy: 01:21:790 (81790|1) - here move this to 3
14:35 _underjoy: and change the 3-chord
14:35 _underjoy: so it would be [34][12][34][12] first and then [12][34][12][34 later
14:35 _underjoy: this is a subtle change and it helps flow between trills better
14:36 Kyousuke-: can you give a screenshot
14:36 _underjoy: 01:39:871 (99871|0,99871|3,99952|2,99952|1,100033|3,100033|2,100033|0) - those are hard but well if you want they can stay
14:36 _underjoy: sure
14:37 _underjoy: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5355976
14:37 _underjoy: this basically
14:38 _underjoy: and in the last part of chorus you also have jacks
14:38 _underjoy: you can delete the minijacks too
14:39 _underjoy: this is much more pleasant to play because the minijacks force too much difficulty and are annoying
14:39 _underjoy: better make one note single for playability than just blindly map the music as it is :/
14:39 _underjoy: other than that, nice jumpstream map
14:39 Kyousuke-: okay!
14:40 Kyousuke-: thank you very much :D
14:40 _underjoy: np :P
14:40 Kyousuke-: you can post this
14:40 Kyousuke-: if you want
14:41 _underjoy: well nothing big\
14:42 _underjoy: but okay, lets have a trace of the discussion xD
thank you very much for this! but some minijacks were kept for the purpose xD
/well it decreased from 5.07* to 4.93* lmao, but become more playable now :3
WolfyArmato-
228 posts
Joined May 2015
WolfyArmato-
PnX x ArmatoGamesZ 4K Mania Modding Queues




SELEN - Reverse World - ITSUHA.


|1|2|3|4|


[General]
Timing: OK!
Hitsounds: Must be hitsounds on every diff if you want to rank this! Maybe not now lol
Audio: Nice!
Graphics: Good! and very beautiful AAA

[Hard]
Mods
In fact, hard diff can place 3 notes in a row, mostly use this for cymbal sound. Here some mods I think it can help you!
00:31:277 - add note at |4|
00:35:169 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poLgk/d3d9b8d925.PNG
00:37:763 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poLm8/1d5fcaa668.PNG
00:40:358 - add note at |2|
00:40:682 - add note at |4|
00:41:331 - add note at |2|
00:41:331 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poM0j/23fe349baf.PNG
00:46:196 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMik/5cc6200ef5.PNG
00:47:493 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMsO/2134b8ec3c.PNG
00:49:439 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMw9/cd07d72c37.PNG
00:49:925 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMCU/9be7daff38.PNG
I think this part 00:50:736 should be place 3 notes in the white line, but you can reject this, that's just imo.
00:57:223 - should do like this http://puu.sh/poMNu/3d7fd95462.PNG

[Extra]
Mods
Sorry I can't mod this diff because..., The patterns are very NICE!! AAAAAAAA
I love your pattern they are very flow to play! :) :) :)

GL on ranking!, Thanks for use our queue
-SoraGami-
951 posts
Joined March 2014
-SoraGami-
Hi Kyou~ xD

okay here's my mod

Column = 1|2|3|4


[Hard]
- 00:18:466 (18466|2,18547|3,18790|2,18871|3) - 4x the same stairs lacks some taste i guess, how about ctrl + g?
- how about change the pattern of these 00:59:817 (59817|3,59817|0,59979|2,59979|1,60141|0,60141|3,60304|2,60304|1) ? to look like this 00:16:682 , making the jack represent that there's a cymbals like the feels here 01:19:114 (79114|0,79277|0)
- also here, 01:01:439 (61439|3,61520|0,61601|3,61682|0) - i think it is better to change this, to emphasize the different sound of 01:02:087 (62087|0,62169|3,62250|0,62331|3,62412|0,62412|1) ,try something similar to this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5364127
- 01:20:574 to 01:21:871 - try something different, it's almost similar with 01:21:871 to 01:23:169
- 01:41:979 - add note here for cymbal, i think it's fine since you add here 00:39:709
- 01:21:223 - ^ and also umm.. this too? 01:22:196 - and 01:22:844 -
[Extra]
- 01:22:439 (82439|1,82520|3,82520|2,82601|0,82601|1,82682|2,82682|3,82763|1,82844|3,82844|2,82844|0,82925|1) - ctrl + h, the left side gives a lot of stress because of 01:22:196 (82196|1,82277|1,82439|1) and 01:22:925 (82925|1,83087|1,83169|1)
- 00:17:736 (17736|2) - why not 2 notes? like you only make it single when there's a melody/triple like 00:53:979

welp not much xD
im fine with the rest or maybe im only bad at streams Dx

Goodluck with your map :D
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

ArmatoGamesZ wrote:

PnX x ArmatoGamesZ 4K Mania Modding Queues




SELEN - Reverse World - ITSUHA.


|1|2|3|4|


[General]
Timing: OK!
Hitsounds: Must be hitsounds on every diff if you want to rank this! Maybe not now lol yeaaa too lazy lmao
Audio: Nice!
Graphics: Good! and very beautiful AAA YASS i very like astronomy thingy :33 it's cool rite

[Hard]
Mods
In fact, hard diff can place 3 notes in a row, mostly use this for cymbal sound. Here some mods I think it can help you!
00:31:277 - add note at |4|
00:35:169 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poLgk/d3d9b8d925.PNG
00:37:763 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poLm8/1d5fcaa668.PNG
00:40:358 - add note at |2|
00:40:682 - add note at |4|
00:41:331 - add note at |2|
00:41:331 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poM0j/23fe349baf.PNG
00:46:196 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMik/5cc6200ef5.PNG
00:47:493 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMsO/2134b8ec3c.PNG
00:49:439 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMw9/cd07d72c37.PNG
00:49:925 - Do like this http://puu.sh/poMCU/9be7daff38.PNG
I think this part 00:50:736 should be place 3 notes in the white line, but you can reject this, that's just imo.
00:57:223 - should do like this http://puu.sh/poMNu/3d7fd95462.PNG
^ uh oh i understand what you mean, and yeah it's not wrong absolutely. But i already intend to make all finish sound for only 2-notes, also for the pattern purpose (of course for smoother stairs pattern). And if i put all finish sound to 3-notes, the stars will be increased drastically (it will become more suitable for 'Insane' diff rather than 'Hard' diff, yeah i'm trying to keep the diff gap as well as possible) and it will be quite hard for 'Hard' diff imo.

[Extra]
Mods
Sorry I can't mod this diff because..., The patterns are very NICE!! AAAAAAAA
I love your pattern they are very flow to play! :) :) :) Thank you very much!!

GL on ranking!, Thanks for use our queue
thank you~~
but sorry nothing changed ;w;


-SoraGami- wrote:

Hi Kyou~ xD

okay here's my mod

Column = 1|2|3|4


[Hard]
- 00:18:466 (18466|2,18547|3,18790|2,18871|3) - 4x the same stairs lacks some taste i guess, how about ctrl + g? changed the pattern instead, considering too many stairs pattern lmao
- how about change the pattern of these 00:59:817 (59817|3,59817|0,59979|2,59979|1,60141|0,60141|3,60304|2,60304|1) ? to look like this 00:16:682 , making the jack represent that there's a cymbals like the feels here 01:19:114 (79114|0,79277|0) nice suggest owo)b
- also here, 01:01:439 (61439|3,61520|0,61601|3,61682|0) - i think it is better to change this, to emphasize the different sound of 01:02:087 (62087|0,62169|3,62250|0,62331|3,62412|0,62412|1) ,try something similar to this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5364127 more prefer the current pattern :3
- 01:20:574 to 01:21:871 - try something different, it's almost similar with 01:21:871 to 01:23:169 already changed bcs of your last mod ><
- 01:41:979 - add note here for cymbal, i think it's fine since you add here 00:39:709 oh ya you're ritee
- 01:21:223 - ^ and also umm.. this too? 01:22:196 - and 01:22:844 - okkk
[Extra]
- 01:22:439 (82439|1,82520|3,82520|2,82601|0,82601|1,82682|2,82682|3,82763|1,82844|3,82844|2,82844|0,82925|1) - ctrl + h, the left side gives a lot of stress because of 01:22:196 (82196|1,82277|1,82439|1) and 01:22:925 (82925|1,83087|1,83169|1) i think it's fine, bcs on the right side there have a jacks too 01:22:196 (82196|3,82358|3,82520|3,82682|3,82844|3,83006|3,83169|3) - so that balanced imo. Also the pattern are already matched lol 01:21:871 (81871|1,81871|0,81952|3,81952|2,82033|1,82033|0,82520|2,82520|3,82601|1,82601|0,82682|2,82682|3) -
- 00:17:736 (17736|2) - why not 2 notes? like you only make it single when there's a melody/triple like 00:53:979 whoops wrong highlighted xD btw fixed~~

welp not much xD it's better than many but not that helpful at all xD
im fine with the rest or maybe im only bad at streams Dx

Goodluck with your map :D
thank you so much soraa!
so helpful mods :33 /aww thanks for stars owo!
Harbyter
Beatmap Nominator
1,364 posts
Joined October 2011
Harbyter
hope you more luck , couldn't bring my enxtented version for rank :(

anyway the rolls are in 1/12 not 1/8 xD
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

Harbyter wrote:

hope you more luck , couldn't bring my enxtented version for rank :(

anyway the rolls are in 1/12 not 1/8 xD
lol noticed by the senpai, but why u can't rank it D:

okay changed to 1/12! thanks harby~


/and thanks to [-Seiryuu-] for the little irc
[-Star_Lenz-]
583 posts
Joined September 2014
[-Star_Lenz-]
Where diff EZ and her NM ? =w=
Kyousuke-
1,796 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

[-Star_Lenz-] wrote:

Where diff EZ and her NM ? =w=
her?? o.o
yea still waiting for the GD'er lol
PANDAAAAAAAA
745 posts
Joined September 2012
PANDAAAAAAAA
hi :3 sorry for late
i'm focusing on pitch (low pitch put on left column and high pitch put on right column)
|1|2|3|4|

[Extra]
00:00:790 (790|1,871|2) - ctrl + j for pitch?
00:01:844 (1844|3,1925|2,2006|1) - move to 1>2>3 for pitch?
00:02:169 (2169|0) - move to 3 for pitch?
00:02:250 (2250|2,2331|1) - move to 2>1 for pitch?
00:02:412 (2412|0) - move to 2
00:06:060 (6060|3,6141|0,6223|3,6304|0) - yes correct! same sound same column
00:06:628 - 00:09:223 - i suggest you to follow the pitch. it will make you fun to play (like when we playing the real piano)
01:01:317 (61317|1,61398|3) - why i can't heard 1/8 sound lol, maybe only me.
01:02:169 (62169|3,62169|2,62250|0,62250|1) - ctrl + j? sound was changed at this time.
01:43:925 (103925|3,103925|0) - release at 01:44:898 -
try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5395464

that's all.
blackcow30
blackcow30
Hi Kyou, mod req via chat!
These are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you!
Warning: I'm a little bit strict with pitch relevance

Column 1|2|3|4

Hard
00:00:790 (790|0) - Move to col 3 (pitch)
00:02:087 (2087|1) - ^
00:02:169 (2169|2) - Move to col 2
From 00:03:547 to 00:04:033 - You need to put this patterns (I think so):

From 00:07:925 to 00:09:223 - sounds like trills (following pitch), I really recommend something like this:

00:09:547 (9547|0,9655|1,9763|2) - Ctrl+H (pitch) and move one column to left
00:09:952 (9952|0) - Move to col 3 (pitch)
00:10:114 (10114|2) - Move to col 1 ^
00:10:277 (10277|0) - Move to col 3 ^
You can add the piano notes from 00:24:790 to 00:25:763
00:28:682 (28682|0,28682|3,28763|1,28844|2,28925|3) - Ctrl+H (pitch)
00:29:412 (29412|2) - Move to col 4 (same note as in 00:29:250)
00:29:655 (29655|2) - Move to col 1 (pitch)
00:29:736 (29736|0) - ^ col 2
00:29:817 (29817|1) - ^ col 3
00:29:898 (29898|2) - ^ col 4
00:29:979 (29979|3) - ^ col 3 or 2
I recommend move 00:32:574 (32574|2) to col 1, and 00:32:655 (32655|0) to col 3 (piano pitch)
00:33:385 (33385|1) - Move to col 3
00:33:466 (33466|0) - Move to col 2
From 00:33:547 to 00:34:520 - is exactly the same piano notes (ascending), so...
00:33:547 (33547|3,33628|2,33709|1,33790|0) - Ctrl+ H
00:33:871 (33871|3) - Move to col 1
00:34:033 (34033|3) - Move to col 3
00:34:196 (34196|2) - Move to col 1
00:34:358 (34358|0) - ^ col 3
00:34:439 (34439|1) - ^ col 4
00:36:466 - There's a strong beat, so you can add a third note
00:37:763 - ^
00:46:844 - ^
00:48:141 - ^
00:49:439 - ^
00:53:331 (53331|0,53331|1) - There's no a piano sound (like in 00:53:979 ), so you can remove one note
00:56:898 - Add another note (there's a piano note)
00:57:223 - Strong beat, add another note
00:58:520 - ^
Extra
From 00:00:142 - to 00:10:520 consider to apply same pitch changes of Hard
00:19:682 - Maybe you can add note here
00:20:006 - ^
00:20:331 - ^
(Suggestion) Remove all 1/4 notes from 00:36:466 to 00:39:060. Maybe you can make a difference only with notes in 1/2
01:02:087 - consider to replace with jacks, something like this:


01:02:412 (62412|3,62412|1,62412|0) - LNs isn't necessary, try with normal notes
01:08:736 (68736|3,68736|0) - There's no a beat here, like in 01:08:574 ,so you need to remove one note
01:10:033 (70033|0,70033|3) - ^
01:11:574 - Add note
01:11:898 - ^
01:12:223 - ^
01:18:141 (78141|3,78223|3) - Uhm... jacks isn't necessary here, try to change the notes
01:18:790 (78790|2,78871|2) - ^
01:19:439 (79439|3,79520|3) - ^
01:27:790 (87790|0) - Move to col 2 to follow this pattern 01:27:060 (87060|3,87060|1,87060|0,87141|0)
01:27:871 (87871|1) - Move to col 1

That's all I can find, hope this was helpful for you :)
It's a nice map. Good luck with it!
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