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Xgor
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on den 14 maj 2011 at 20:21:59

Artist: Christian Walz
Title: Like Suicide
Source: Melodifestivalen 2011
BPM: 128
Filesize: 4361kb
Play Time: 02:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0,97 stars, 140 notes)
  2. Hard (4,53 stars, 317 notes)
  3. Normal (3,07 stars, 207 notes)
Download: Christian Walz - Like Suicide
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Proof that Sweden dosn't know a quality song when they hear one.

Let's see if others like this map

New mp3 added the 12 of may, re-download if you downloaded before that.
Pereira006
:D
Samah
Love the song! It's pretty Kiai heavy too...
Mostly nazi modding for spacing and symmetry, sorry. Yes, I measured things. ;)

Easy:
No 3rd Kiai section like the other two difficulties?
00:19:618 (5) - Endpoint two grids right and one down.
00:25:243 (3) - Up one grid.
00:26:180 (4) - Left one grid.
00:38:368 (3) - Left one grid.
01:08:368 (3) - Up one grid.
01:29:930 (2,3) - Left one grid.
02:16:805 (3) - Right one grid.

Normal:
00:28:055 (3) - Endpoint up and left one grid.
00:40:243 (3) - Endpoint up and right one grid.
02:09:305 (3) - Endpoint down one grid.
02:27:118 (3,4,5) - Move down one grid.
02:28:993 (3,4,5,1,2) - Move down one grid.
02:44:696 (1) - Move down one grid.

Hard:
Some nice shapes here, but I think some of the jumps could be a little more obvious.
00:41:180 (1,2,1,2) - Spacing is wrong here (intentionally, I assume). If you can think of something to make the jump a little more predictable without spoiling the shape, go for it.
01:34:852 (4,5,1) - Spacing differences.
02:27:586 (5) - Up and right one grid.
02:27:821 (6) - Right one grid.
02:29:461 (5) - Up and left one grid.
02:29:696 (6) - Left one grid.
02:43:758 (1) - If you want it to be symmetrical with the previous slider, move this down 3 grid units.

Starred. :)
Topic Starter
Xgor

Samah wrote:

Love the song! It's pretty Kiai heavy too...Well yeah... Might do a SB instead of kiai if I get a idea for it but the kiai fit's the song
Mostly nazi modding for spacing and symmetry, sorry. Yes, I measured things. ;)

Easy:
No 3rd Kiai section like the other two difficulties?Woops done.
00:19:618 (5) - Endpoint two grids right and one down.I didn't do that but I noticed it wasn't symmetrical so I changed so it was that.
00:25:243 (3) - Up one grid.Moved up two instead :3 It's more correct that way
00:26:180 (4) - Left one grid.Done.
00:38:368 (3) - Left one grid.Moved (4) instead.
01:08:368 (3) - Up one grid.Can't remeber I did it... oh well it's symmetric right now
01:29:930 (2,3) - Left one grid.Oh woops, done.
02:16:805 (3) - Right one grid.Fixed.

Normal:
00:28:055 (3) - Endpoint up and left one grid.Fixed it my style. so it actually becomes symmetric
00:40:243 (3) - Endpoint up and right one grid.^
02:09:305 (3) - Endpoint down one grid.^
02:27:118 (3,4,5) - Move down one grid.My styyylee.
02:28:993 (3,4,5,1,2) - Move down one grid.Somewhat changed.
02:44:696 (1) - Move down one grid.I guess.

Hard:
Some nice shapes here, but I think some of the jumps could be a little more obvious.
00:41:180 (1,2,1,2) - Spacing is wrong here (intentionally, I assume). If you can think of something to make the jump a little more predictable without spoiling the shape, go for it.The second one is a jump. The first one was reduced spacing though... I changed it to 1,2x now though.
01:34:852 (4,5,1) - Spacing differences.Hmm yeah... I think I keep it as it is but yeah it's pretty bad. I change it when I come up with something better.
02:27:586 (5) - Up and right one grid.Oh yeah.. fixed.
02:27:821 (6) - Right one grid.Done
02:29:461 (5) - Up and left one grid.Done
02:29:696 (6) - Left one grid.done
02:43:758 (1) - If you want it to be symmetrical with the previous slider, move this down 3 grid units.Yeah I know, that wasn't my intention and would be pretty weird spacing if I did.

Starred. :)
Saten
:3

Spelade med min Tablet~

Nice, have a stjärna :D
gyt
[Easy]
00:37:430 (1,2,3) - nazi spacing
01:43:993 (1,2,3) - ^ (can be symmetrical - flip (1) horizontally + vertically and reverse selection)

[Normal]
00:21:258 - add circle or maybe 1/2 repeat slider?
00:42:821 (1) - remove new combo?
00:44:227 (1) - ^
01:03:446 (1) - ^
01:07:196 (1) - ^ (and other choruses)
01:23:133 - add circle or maybe 1/2 repeat slider?
02:29:930 (5,1,2) - nazi spacing
02:32:743 (3,1,2) - ^
02:51:024 (6,1) - it's not jump, but I mistake here once

[Hard]
00:16:805 (5,1), 00:18:680 (5,1) - random semi-jumps (first - 1.2-2.2x, second - 1.2-1.6x). Make them more similar (1.2-2.0x and 1.2-1.6x or even 1.2-1.8x and 1.2-1.8x).
00:21:258 (6,7,8) - wtf jump for me! Use something like 1.5-1.6x. Maybe stack (7) with 00:20:321 (4)?
00:29:227 (8,1), 00:30:633 (3,1), 00:32:508 (4,1) - random semi-jumps -_- Maybe align 00:32:508 (4) slider start with 00:30:633 (3) slider end?
00:42:821 (1) - remove new combo? I like these jumps.
00:44:227 (1) - ^
01:03:446 (1) - ^
01:07:196 (1) - ^
01:08:602 (1) - ^ (and other choruses)
Oh, these semi-jumps.. It's a bit weird at first, but then I really like this difficulty!
Topic Starter
Xgor

gyt wrote:

[Easy]
00:37:430 (1,2,3) - nazi spacingDoes that mean, "move one grid to the right?".... I did that alteast.
01:43:993 (1,2,3) - ^ (can be symmetrical - flip (1) horizontally + vertically and reverse selection)Ummm.... no

[Normal]
00:21:258 - add circle or maybe 1/2 repeat slider?I like it more how it sounds right now, also short repeat sliders makes me go :(
00:42:821 (1) - remove new combo?Yeah, I have been thinking on doing this, done.
00:44:227 (1) - ^
01:03:446 (1) - ^
01:07:196 (1) - ^ (and other choruses)
01:23:133 - add circle or maybe 1/2 repeat slider?Same as 21:258
02:29:930 (5,1,2) - nazi spacingYeah yeah, I know (5) is a bit lower down.... done it a bit better.
02:32:743 (3,1,2) - ^
02:51:024 (6,1) - it's not jump, but I mistake here onceYeah yeah, It's a jump here but I don't think this is a proble,-

[Hard]
00:16:805 (5,1), 00:18:680 (5,1) - random semi-jumps (first - 1.2-2.2x, second - 1.2-1.6x). Make them more similar (1.2-2.0x and 1.2-1.6x or even 1.2-1.8x and 1.2-1.8x).Yeah, this one is more like a new combo jump when it jumps pretty much all the time when there is a new combo.
00:21:258 (6,7,8) - wtf jump for me! Use something like 1.5-1.6x. Maybe stack (7) with 00:20:321 (4)?I think 1,7x is the one that works the best and gives the best flow here. I tried with yours but it did't feel as good.
00:29:227 (8,1), 00:30:633 (3,1), 00:32:508 (4,1) - random semi-jumps -_- Maybe align 00:32:508 (4) slider start with 00:30:633 (3) slider end?Kinda the same thing here, I think these works pretty good and if I don't get tons of complains I'll keep those.
00:42:821 (1) - remove new combo? I like these jumps.I think having new combos would be the best choice at these ones, If many complain I change them but I think they make it's more reliable
00:44:227 (1) - ^
01:03:446 (1) - ^
01:07:196 (1) - ^
01:08:602 (1) - ^ (and other choruses)
Oh, these semi-jumps.. It's a bit weird at first, but then I really like this difficulty!
Teras
Dt done.

Also, Source: Melodifestivalen 2011? :]
Topic Starter
Xgor

Teras wrote:

Also, Source: Melodifestivalen 2011? :]
Hmmm.... I'm unsure if that's needed gonna ask though.
galvenize
[Overall]

I usually don't like the use of the same color in a chain of combo (i.e red here). Better change one of the reds into something else.

[Hard]

00:57:118 (3,4) - Spacing?
01:08:602 (1) - new combo unnecessary imo, same goes for the rest with the same pattern.
02:09:891 (5) - If you want to nail the singing, better end this one 1/8 sooner.
02:38:602 (4,5,6) - one grid down

Nothing to say about the two other diffs which look fine to me, sorry for not being of more help.
Topic Starter
Xgor

galvenize wrote:

[Overall]

I usually don't like the use of the same color in a chain of combo (i.e red here). Better change one of the reds into something else.Huh, this doesn't happens on my side.

[Hard]

00:57:118 (3,4) - Spacing?Oh woops.
01:08:602 (1) - new combo unnecessary imo, same goes for the rest with the same pattern.I find this giving a nice touch imo
02:09:891 (5) - If you want to nail the singing, better end this one 1/8 sooner.I feel the current rhythm works better imo
02:38:602 (4,5,6) - one grid downI don't get what you want with this thing, changed it a bit but not the way you said

Nothing to say about the two other diffs which look fine to me, sorry for not being of more help.
- Rche -
[Easy]
01:37:899 (1,2,3) - sounds a bit strange... but i can't suggest anything...

[Normal]
00:21:727 (4) - move to 00:21:961 or add note at 00:21:961?
00:45:399 (x) - add a note?
00:52:899 (x) - ^
in this way quite a lot of notes can be added but may screw the star rating...
01:36:727 (3,1) - sounds strange because of my picky ear. i would put the clap at (3) into (1).

and some spacing maybe...

[Hard]
I used to deal with any jumps in any hard difficulty.
So i may have mis-judged some spacing issues into jumps...
looks fine to me.

This is really a quality song.
+star.
Topic Starter
Xgor

justnobody wrote:

[Easy]
01:37:899 (1,2,3) - sounds a bit strange... but i can't suggest anything...Well, changed to another idea I had.

[Normal]
00:21:727 (4) - move to 00:21:961 or add note at 00:21:961?No it goes with the lyrics
00:45:399 (x) - add a note?No, I think the way I mapped right now works better on a normal
00:52:899 (x) - ^
in this way quite a lot of notes can be added but may screw the star rating...
01:36:727 (3,1) - sounds strange because of my picky ear. i would put the clap at (3) into (1).Nah, it goes with the background beat of the song.

and some spacing maybe...

[Hard]
I used to deal with any jumps in any hard difficulty.
So i may have mis-judged some spacing issues into jumps...Well the spacing is intentionally jumps I dunno if they are readable enough though
looks fine to me.

This is really a quality song.
+star.
Magicphoenix
General

*Start KIAI 1/2 earlier? It really feels strange when playing... (Do you love the letter 'u' or why did you start it @sUicide instead of Suicide?)

Easy


*00:18:680 (4) - Move 1 grid left (so it makes a square with 1,2,3)
*02:12:352 - turn KIAI off here and start @02:13:993 - again ?
*02:17:743 (1) - Remove NC ?
*02:40:243 (1) - ^ (I think it's a big exaggerated to use NC for every word, for every sentence should be enough)
*02:53:368 - Why does KIAI end earlier than in other diffs?

Normal

* AR -1
*01:43:993 (3) - Move 1 tick earlier?
*01:45:399 (4) - CLAP
*02:17:743 (6) - Not-so-really-good-looking-slider

Hard

*00:19:852 (2) - unstack?
*01:55:243 (2,1) - Why like that and not like the other squares? :(
*02:16:805 (5) - NC?


Very cool map and beautiful song !! >w<

STAR~
Topic Starter
Xgor

Magicphoenix wrote:

General

*Start KIAI 1/2 earlier? It really feels strange when playing... (Do you love the letter 'u' or why did you start it @sUicide instead of Suicide?)I'm starting the kiai at the same time as the piano kicks in, that's why-

Easy


*00:18:680 (4) - Move 1 grid left (so it makes a square with 1,2,3)Ahh silly me, mistake.
*02:12:352 - turn KIAI off here and start @02:13:993 - again ?Woops forgot to do that.
*02:17:743 (1) - Remove NC ?Nah
*02:40:243 (1) - ^ (I think it's a big exaggerated to use NC for every word, for every sentence should be enough)Done.
*02:53:368 - Why does KIAI end earlier than in other diffs?Because I'm was lazy, changed.

Normal

* AR -1 Made +1 OD instead :P
*01:43:993 (3) - Move 1 tick earlier?No
*01:45:399 (4) - CLAPHave you even bother to notice how I placed claps on this map? I place them on every third white tick as it goes with the back beat so no to this one.
*02:17:743 (6) - Not-so-really-good-looking-sliderMeh made it more pretty

Hard

*00:19:852 (2) - unstack?No
*01:55:243 (2,1) - Why like that and not like the other squares? :(Because I like it that way :3
*02:16:805 (5) - NC?No


Very cool map and beautiful song !! >w<

STAR~
Mastodonio
You forgot to give kudosu to that guy,I guess ;)

Star
NotShinta
All suggestions, obviously.

Hard:
00:21:493 (7) - I think this spacing is a biiit too high and hard to read with the music. I think placing it in the center makes it better, and not too ugly either.
00:28:993 (7) - Similarly, moving this down.
01:23:133 (6) - I don't hear anything in the song to justify near-silencing this, myself. In fact, to me, it kind of breaks the flow to my ears.

Normal:
01:45:868 (5) - I personally think this would be better 1/2 earlier and extended by 1/2, to suit the vocals.

Otherwise cool shit. I think.
Topic Starter
Xgor

NotShinta wrote:

All suggestions, obviously.

Hard:
00:21:493 (7) - I think this spacing is a biiit too high and hard to read with the music. I think placing it in the center makes it better, and not too ugly either.Fiine
00:28:993 (7) - Similarly, moving this down.Done.
01:23:133 (6) - I don't hear anything in the song to justify near-silencing this, myself. In fact, to me, it kind of breaks the flow to my ears.Well, I did it eariler in the map at pretty much the same place as here and you complain at my third usage :P Well, I try to follow the back beat as it goes dum dum with the first one a bit less loud and I kinda like it how it is right now.

Normal:
01:45:868 (5) - I personally think this would be better 1/2 earlier and extended by 1/2, to suit the vocals.Yeah, done.

Otherwise cool shit. I think.
Backstep
My Lazy weekly mod :3

[General]

offset : 848 I think it okay.

[Easy]

01:08:816 (4) slider end at 01:10:223
01:32:723 (2) slider end at 01:33:660 ?
02:04:598 (1) slider end at 02:05:535 ?

[Normal]

00:30:164 (1) delete clap ?
01:03:446 (2) end of slider delete finish then add clap ?
01:07:196 (2) ^
01:24:539 (1) delete clap ?
01:50:321 (2) end of slider delete finish then add clap ?
01:54:071 (2) ^
02:44:696 (2) ^
02:48:446 (2) ^

[Hard]

Fine for me ~

Star +
Topic Starter
Xgor

backstep wrote:

My Lazy weekly mod :3

[General]

offset : 848 I think it okay.Not sure, gonna ask a pro timer about it sometime...

[Easy]

01:08:816 (4) slider end at 01:10:223Lol what no
01:32:723 (2) slider end at 01:33:660 ?^
02:04:598 (1) slider end at 02:05:535 ?^

[Normal]

00:30:164 (1) delete clap ?well.. done.
01:03:446 (2) end of slider delete finish then add clap ?No
01:07:196 (2) ^
01:24:539 (1) delete clap ?Done.
01:50:321 (2) end of slider delete finish then add clap ?No
01:54:071 (2) ^
02:44:696 (2) ^
02:48:446 (2) ^

[Hard]

Fine for me ~

Star +
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