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narakucrimson
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jueves, 24 de marzo de 2011 at 08:19:38 p.m.

Artist: Evanescence
Title: Lithium
Tags: gothic rock the open door Lanttu
BPM: 117,97
Filesize: 18895kb
Play Time: 03:39
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,63 stars, 350 notes)
  2. Lan's Sorrow (4,82 stars, 351 notes)
  3. Normal (2,32 stars, 171 notes)
Download: Evanescence - Lithium
Download: Evanescence - Lithium (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Because osu! needs more Evanescence!

So this would be my 3rd finished beatmap. Hope you like it!

Andthis is part of my Evanescence Project.

Spacial thanks to Lanttu for her awesome difficulty and for being an awesome person!
Lanttu
I did it~! >u<7 Hitsounds still need some cleaning but I think it's good enough to upload now. :3 I hope it's still fine~ ;u;
Download: Evanescence - Lithium (narakucrimson) [Lan's Sorrow].osu

Ooh, and then some quick modding~! Though I could'nt find almost anything. XD

[Hard]
01:40:624 (6,7,8,9,10) - Maybe center these notes? Would look cool~

[Normal]
01:42:403 (4) - New combo?
03:28:166 (4) - ^

Awesome~<3
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Awesome Lan! Thanks a lot <3~~
Kert
This is Freaking epic!
Very nice mapset <3
My favourite Evanescence song~

[General]
- I feel that BG should reflect the atmosphere of the song, so something more depressing will fit here a lot better I think..
The official clip is an excellent source for that
- Cursor trail is a bit messy for my taste, something like a sparkle or a smaller different snowflake will be better

[Lan's Sorrow]
Very beautiful difficulty, just some minor suggestions
There are 2 unique slider shapes out there, but they make their appearance only once..

01:13:421 (1,2) - (And other same kind of 2sliders) - So little space between them.. They doesn't like good. Can you change them some way? =(
02:04:268 (5) - Every time I play this part I feel that it should be vertically flipped :< You would have to make some replacements to quite a bunch of things later though..

[Hard]
Also very nice diff, but just some portion of ugly slider ticks >_<
How about increasing slider tick rate by 1? A lot of slider will look much better, for ex. - 01:05:285 (2) -
As an option you can also decrease by one instead..
Upd: Oh, it will be also consistent with Lanttu's diff, because it has tick rate 2

[Normal]
Again, a beautiful one <3
And again the slider ticks.. Same as in Hard ^

If you fix all this it'll just be 11/10 for me!
Great job! Good luck, guys!
Lanttu

CracK wrote:

[Lan's Sorrow]
Very beautiful difficulty, ~<3 just some minor suggestions
There are 2 unique slider shapes out there, but they make their appearance only once.. ehhehe, you mean the funny sliders at the beginning of choruses, I did that on purpose~

01:13:421 (1,2) - (And other same kind of 2sliders) - So little space between them.. They doesn't like good. Can you change them some way? =( hehehe, now there's a one grid space between then, is it enough? XD lol, are they better now? ;u;
02:04:268 (5) - Every time I play this part I feel that it should be vertically flipped :< You would have to make some preplacements to quite a bunch of things later though.. I think I keep it like that for now, though I can understand your point, also. :'3
Thanks~! <3

Updated!
Download: Evanescence - Lithium (narakucrimson) [Lan's Sorrow].osu
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

CracK wrote:

This is Freaking epic!
Very nice mapset <3
My favourite Evanescence song~

Oh thanks :)

[General]
- I feel that BG should reflect the atmosphere of the song, so something more depressing will fit here a lot better I think..
The official clip is an excellent source for that yeah well... there's the clip already so the bg shouldn't be a big problem. Plus, I think it looks cool xD will wait for further suggestions.
- Cursor trail is a bit messy for my taste, something like a sparkle or a smaller different snowflake will be better Hmm I'll also wait for more suggestions, though it won't be a problem to fix.

[Lan's Sorrow]
Very beautiful difficulty, just some minor suggestions
There are 2 unique slider shapes out there, but they make their appearance only once..

01:13:421 (1,2) - (And other same kind of 2sliders) - So little space between them.. They doesn't like good. Can you change them some way? =(
02:04:268 (5) - Every time I play this part I feel that it should be vertically flipped :< You would have to make some replacements to quite a bunch of things later though..

[Hard]
Also very nice diff, but just some portion of ugly slider ticks >_<
How about increasing slider tick rate by 1? A lot of slider will look much better, for ex. - 01:05:285 (2) -
As an option you can also decrease by one instead.. mmm ok
Upd: Oh, it will be also consistent with Lanttu's diff, because it has tick rate 2

[Normal]
Again, a beautiful one <3
And again the slider ticks.. Same as in Hard ^

If you fix all this it'll just be 11/10 for me!
Great job! Good luck, guys!
Thanks a lot :D
Serval
Nice map, here comes the mod!

[Overall]
You should check both bpm and offset: When i test it I got about 5-7ms late at the beginning of the song, and 20-24ms at the end. (Maybe it's me, or maybe i'm too picky on this :p)


[Normal]
00:50:412 (4,5) - Spacing. The pattern is nice, but since your sliders before are really close when they are on 1/2 (pattern like 00:45:455 (1,2,3)) it may confuse some player, especially normal players
01:35:794 (3,4,5) - Check spacing here
01:38:336 (1,2,3) - You should check spacing, the way the pattern look is good, but you'll maybe have to redesign it, cause if you try to respect spacing, (2) will go on top of the screen, which is not good too. As for 00:50:412, this can be misreaded by normal players
02:07:827 (2) - Maybe you can try to align this (on top) with the end of (1). You'll just have to check spacing for (3). Also I suggest you to make (4) look like (3) http://puu.sh/15lh <= you can try something like that (don't forget to check spacing on 02:10:370 (1) after)
02:41:895 (1) - Just a suggestion here, but I find the Finish a little bit too aggressive for almost only vocal part, maybe you should try a whistle or something else, since you've already a Finish on (2)?


[Hard]
00:55:624 (5,6,7) - This spacing here, is not really intuitive imo, maybe move the whole pattern to fit the 1x spacing?
02:02:234 (1,2,3) - Only suggestion since the pattern is intuitive, but,t ry to align this using the spacing 1x? you can still change the end of slider to get the same "cross slider" effect. 02:04:268 (5,6,7) - same here ?
02:20:794 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Only suggestion, but can you reduce the spacing a bit, before the stream ? This stream is a bit disturbing in a hard, since you play a high spacing for going right on a stream. I think 1.60x would fit perfectly
02:41:895 (1) - Just a suggestion here, but I find the Finish a little bit too aggressive for almost only vocal part, maybe you should try a whistle or something else, since you've already a Finish on 02:42:912 (1) - ?
02:47:997 (2,3) - Maybe change the spacing for 1.8x? i feel this a bit high for this part, mapped on the voice
02:49:522 (4) - Suggestion : try to align this a bit more? something like two grid right one up should make it
02:59:183 - 03:02:997 Suggestions : I just feel the pattern a bit too linear compare to the rest of the map, you can change it or let it as it is, the timeline is good.
03:11:133 (4) - You should put spacing 1.20x on this one, like the other note before


[Lan's Sorrow]
Nothing much to say about this guest diff except for the following point (which is recursive in the song):
01:00:963 (1,2,3) - Triplets are overmapped. The BPM of the song is really low and it's not like it's a great explosion of solodrum every time... You should remove the triplets. If you want to keep the sound effect maybe you can put a slider like 00:48:760 (1) -. It's pretty annoying to hit something which is mapped on nothing, even if on some part with more music(drum, guitar and stuff), that fits, but well... it's still overmapped.


Since the map is well built, i'll Star it !
EvianBubble
Evanescence FTW

+1 star for you :)

I'm not an awesome person WTF?! D< (referring to first post BTW XD)

EDIT: K there was that thing about spacing in easy. Oh and hitsounds and ... stuff ... and like um ... all my other equally awesome suggestions you denied because my awesomeness blinded you. Oh yes, I went there :3
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Lol thanks for the irc modding!

And you're an awesome person too! But I say it one person at a time :P
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Serval wrote:

Nice map, here comes the mod!

[Overall]
You should check both bpm and offset: When i test it I got about 5-7ms late at the beginning of the song, and 20-24ms at the end. (Maybe it's me, or maybe i'm too picky on this :p) Maybe you're a little too picky :P I prefer using round BPMs for starters, and this seems pretty consistent for now :D


[Normal]
00:50:412 (4,5) - Spacing. The pattern is nice, but since your sliders before are really close when they are on 1/2 (pattern like 00:45:455 (1,2,3)) it may confuse some player, especially normal players Well yeeeah, it MIGHT happen, but I don't think this is critical.
01:35:794 (3,4,5) - Check spacing here Done!
01:38:336 (1,2,3) - You should check spacing, the way the pattern look is good, but you'll maybe have to redesign it, cause if you try to respect spacing, (2) will go on top of the screen, which is not good too. As for 00:50:412, this can be misreaded by normal players Yup, Evian mentioned the same thing. I solved it.
02:07:827 (2) - Maybe you can try to align this (on top) with the end of (1). You'll just have to check spacing for (3). Also I suggest you to make (4) look like (3) http://puu.sh/15lh <= you can try something like that (don't forget to check spacing on 02:10:370 (1) after) Oh seems like a good idea!
02:41:895 (1) - Just a suggestion here, but I find the Finish a little bit too aggressive for almost only vocal part, maybe you should try a whistle or something else, since you've already a Finish on (2)? Well I personally believe that it's one of the parts with more "power" on the vocals, so I wanted to emphasize it. I'll leave it for now.


[Hard]
00:55:624 (5,6,7) - This spacing here, is not really intuitive imo, maybe move the whole pattern to fit the 1x spacing? Sorry but I totally like accelerating the spacing here, it fits the rise of the tone in the vocals.
02:02:234 (1,2,3) - Only suggestion since the pattern is intuitive, but,t ry to align this using the spacing 1x? you can still change the end of slider to get the same "cross slider" effect. 02:04:268 (5,6,7) - same here ? I support the theory that on a Hrd difficulty, such small things shouldn't matter cD They give some extra spice to the song :)
02:20:794 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Only suggestion, but can you reduce the spacing a bit, before the stream ? This stream is a bit disturbing in a hard, since you play a high spacing for going right on a stream. I think 1.60x would fit perfectly Well now, I was always impressed by Natteke's maps. And that guy uses "Hard" for some really INSANE difficulties. So this hasn't got to be exactly a Hard, and it has some Insane things on it. This is one of them.
02:41:895 (1) - Just a suggestion here, but I find the Finish a little bit too aggressive for almost only vocal part, maybe you should try a whistle or something else, since you've already a Finish on 02:42:912 (1) - ?
02:47:997 (2,3) - Maybe change the spacing for 1.8x? i feel this a bit high for this part, mapped on the voice Same as in Normal xD Will wait for further opinions.
02:49:522 (4) - Suggestion : try to align this a bit more? something like two grid right one up should make it It is aligned already o.o
02:59:183 - 03:02:997 Suggestions : I just feel the pattern a bit too linear compare to the rest of the map, you can change it or let it as it is, the timeline is good. Hmm could be, could be, it's a relaxing part though
03:11:133 (4) - You should put spacing 1.20x on this one, like the other note before It's ok but, I just noticed that a slider isn't totally symmetrical woops thanks!

Since the map is well built, i'll Star it !
Will wait for Lanttu's update.

Thanks for everything!!
Lanttu

Serval wrote:

[Lan's Sorrow]
Nothing much to say about this guest diff except for the following point (which is recursive in the song):
01:00:963 (1,2,3) - Triplets are overmapped. The BPM of the song is really low and it's not like it's a great explosion of solodrum every time... You should remove the triplets. If you want to keep the sound effect maybe you can put a slider like 00:48:760 (1) -. It's pretty annoying to hit something which is mapped on nothing, even if on some part with more music(drum, guitar and stuff), that fits, but well... it's still overmapped.
Do you mean all triplets or just this one? ;u; Well, changed couple of them into sliders, though most of them remained the same because I think they fit in nicely, specially in the chorus.. Thank you anyways~ :3

Download: Evanescence - Lithium (narakucrimson) [Lan's Sorrow].osu
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Updated~~
Lightgazer
Star~
Pereira006
Ho hell ya !

STAR
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Thanks guys! :)
Kert
How do you like these snowflakes instead?



I also tried to find a better BG, but couldn't..
The closest to what I wanted to see is something like this:


Ayeen_old
Nothing much to say,

General:
Try advertise some more of your song in #modreqs. That will give some more attention and stars
Kiai time is too long?
If you can find a nicer BG, that would be cool
Mp3 bitrate is fine
If custom hit (300 elite, 300, 100,100 elite, 50) that would make it perfect with the circle overlay

Normal
Notice 1 spacing issue 00:50:666
Maybe lower approach rate 1 tick
Attached is the fixed issues i found in normal, just the spacing issue.
Download: Evanescence - Lithium (narakucrimson) [Normal].osu

Hard
I cant play much hard/insane - wont bother comment/mod


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Star donated ;)
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

CracK wrote:

How do you like these snowflakes instead?
[attachment=1:d356e]star2.png[/attachment:d356e] <- Maybe a more sky-blue version of this one would look cool, I'll try it.
[attachment=0:d356e]star2_2.png[/attachment:d356e]

I also tried to find a better BG, but couldn't..
The closest to what I wanted to see is something like this:


Well no, I still preffer my bg xD
Thanks for taking the time!

Ayeen wrote:

Nothing much to say,

General:
Try advertise some more of your song in #modreqs. That will give some more attention and stars Ok :3
Kiai time is too long? Nah it's just ok
If you can find a nicer BG, that would be cool I like the one I used eOe
Mp3 bitrate is fine
If custom hit (300 elite, 300, 100,100 elite, 50) that would make it perfect with the circle overlay That's not hard to do~~

Normal
Notice 1 spacing issue 00:50:666
Maybe lower approach rate 1 tick
Attached is the fixed issues i found in normal, just the spacing issue.
[attachment=0:d356e]Evanescence - Lithium (narakucrimson) [Normal].osu[/attachment:d356e]

Hard
I cant play much hard/insane - wont bother comment/mod


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Star donated ;)
Ok, thanks!
lolcubes
Hey, here's some stuff I came up with.

[General]:
  1. Consider changing the color of spinner approach circle to something else, I feel like orange doesn't really fit, maybe white or silver.
[Normal]:
  1. 00:50:031 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  2. 00:50:158 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  3. 00:52:065 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  4. 00:52:192 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  5. 01:02:234 - OPTIONAL: Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio. (the reason why this is optional is because this section skips the drum very often, so it may not fit best)
  6. 01:02:361 - If the above change is made, ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  7. 01:18:505 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  8. 01:18:633 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  9. 01:28:675 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  10. 01:28:802 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  11. 01:36:301 (4) - Instead of a whistle, put a clap at the end of the slider.
  12. 02:00:454 (3) - Instead of a whistle, put a clap at the start of the slider.
  13. 02:19:521 (2) - Instead of a whistle, put a clap at the start of the slider.
  14. 02:20:538 (3,4) - Put claps on these.
  15. 02:21:556 (5) - Put claps on the start and the middle of the returning slider. Put a whistle at the end.
  16. 02:56:133 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  17. 02:56:260 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  18. 03:14:438 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  19. 03:14:565 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
[Hard]:
  1. 00:40:370 (1,2,3) - Finish on all three notes.
  2. 00:44:438 (1,2,3) - ^
  3. 00:54:099 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  4. 00:54:226 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  5. 01:08:336 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  6. 01:08:463 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  7. 01:28:675 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  8. 01:28:802 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  9. 01:36:811 (7) - Remove whistle, add clap instead.
  10. 01:42:912 (3) - ^
  11. 02:45:200 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  12. 02:45:327 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  13. 02:50:031 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  14. 02:50:158 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  15. 02:52:065 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  16. 02:52:192 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  17. 03:02:488 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  18. 03:02:616 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  19. 03:14:438 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  20. 03:14:565 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  21. 03:22:573 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  22. 03:22:700 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  23. 03:23:336 (8) - Add a clap.
  24. 03:28:675 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  25. 03:28:802 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  26. 03:29:946 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  27. 03:30:073 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  28. 03:30:709 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  29. 03:30:836 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  30. 03:30:455 (6) - At the end of the slider, remove finish and add clap.
[Lan's Sorrow]:
  1. 00:50:031 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  2. 00:50:158 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  3. 00:54:099 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  4. 00:54:226 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  5. 01:04:268 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  6. 01:04:395 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  7. 01:06:302 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  8. 01:06:429 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  9. 01:08:336 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  10. 01:08:463 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  11. 01:14:183 (2) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  12. 01:14:438 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  13. 01:14:565 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  14. 01:16:216 (5) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  15. 01:16:471 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  16. 01:16:599 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  17. 01:18:251 (2) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  18. 01:18:505 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  19. 01:18:632 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  20. 01:20:539 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  21. 01:20:666 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  22. 01:20:793 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  23. 01:20:921 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  24. 01:21:048 (5) - Remove whistle from the end of the slider, add a clap instead.
  25. 01:35:793 (1) - Remove whistle from the middle of the returning slider, add a clap instead.
  26. 01:36:556 (2) - Remove clap from the start of the slider.
  27. 01:36:810 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  28. 01:36:938 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  29. 02:11:387 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  30. 02:11:514 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  31. 02:13:421 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  32. 02:13:548 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  33. 02:15:200 (2) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  34. 02:15:454 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  35. 02:15:582 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  36. 02:51:810 (3) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  37. 02:52:065 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  38. 02:52:192 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  39. 02:59:945 (2) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  40. 03:00:200 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  41. 03:00:327 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  42. 03:01:979 (5) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  43. 03:02:234 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  44. 03:02:361 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  45. 03:04:014 (2) - Remove the clap from the start of the slider.
  46. 03:04:268 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  47. 03:04:395 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  48. 03:06:048 (2) - Remove the clap from the start and add it at the end of the slider instead.
  49. 03:06:302 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  50. 03:06:429 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  51. 03:06:810 (3) - Add clap at the start of the slider.
  52. 03:14:183 (3) - Remove clap from the start of the slider.
  53. 03:14:438 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  54. 03:14:565 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  55. 03:22:319 (3) - Remove clap from the start of the slider.
  56. 03:22:573 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  57. 03:22:700 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  58. 03:30:454 (3) - Remove clap from the start of the slider.
  59. 03:30:709 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  60. 03:30:836 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
  61. 03:32:488 (2) - Remove clap from the start of the slider.
  62. 03:32:743 - Add inheriting timing section and set soft custom override 2 under Audio.
  63. 03:32:870 - ^ just like the above but set to custom override 1.
Apologies for the lengthy post, ridiculous amount of copy paste and the hitsound nazi, but I believe that these changes would make a huge difference.
Nice work, very little stuff I could find. Only the hitsounds got my attention, the rest looks very nice. Starred and good luck.
:)

Also here are the hitsounds you will need for the changes I made.

Download: hitsounds.zip
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Sorry for everything I explained on irc lolcubes ;_;

I did change the approach circle btw :3 I'll submit it soon~~
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