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777minus111 - bonus level 2

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Kert
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Kert
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 4 января 2012 г. at 2:14:34

Artist: 777minus111
Title: bonus level 2
Tags: 8bit 8-bit chiptune children of dos 666 night sky moon nharox
BPM: 80
Filesize: 2504kb
Play Time: 02:12
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dusk (1,61 stars, 123 notes)
  2. Midnight (4,83 stars, 331 notes)
  3. Nharox's Nightfall (4,7 stars, 315 notes)
  4. Twilight (3,52 stars, 196 notes)
Download: 777minus111 - bonus level 2
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A song composed by russian chiptuner 777-111
We miss those fun days playing NES...
Last edited by Kert , edited 35 times in total.
IceBeam
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Joined December 2009
IceBeam
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Sallad4ever
2,917 posts
Joined October 2009
Sallad4ever
Hi CracKhere is my mod4mod

[General]
- there's a soft-hitclap in the folder but it seems to be a blank file. Why would you use a blank soft hitclap?
- I suggest to add more hitsound, I suggest to use whistle on 00:25:530 (3) and similar but if you don't want to, please at least add more on kiai section a simple whistle will do justice. If you want to use costum hitsound then go ahead :3
- hmmm try increasing the volume in kiai section to 40% or 30%

[Dusk]
00:55:905 (3) - maybe remove this or make it the same rhythm as 00:25:530 (3) ?
01:07:905 (2) - ^
01:15:030 (3) - NC this
01:36:030 (3) - the song is already very relaxing so adding a break will make it boring so maybe map the break?
02:10:530 (4) - NC?

[Midnight]
00:42:030 (1) - uhhh looks like a broken slider :o
00:48:030 (1) - the sudden rising pace startle me here, I guess I got caught of guard after the relaxing intro
01:00:780 (5,1) - the jump is rather too big it doesn't fun, I can only see this as an attempt for symmetry
01:10:248 (3,4,1) - this different rhythm stack is not very good imo, maybe unstacked 1?

that's all from me Good Luck~
Star
Kert
2,079 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
Hey

Sallad4ever wrote:

[General]
- there's a soft-hitclap in the folder but it seems to be a blank file. Why would you use a blank soft hitclap? - Added a custom clap hitsound
- I suggest to add more hitsound, I suggest to use whistle on 00:25:530 (3) and similar but if you don't want to, please at least add more on kiai section a simple whistle will do justice. If you want to use costum hitsound then go ahead :3 - I couldn't find a good place for them.. Btw, I think sounds pretty fine if you look in taiko
- hmmm try increasing the volume in kiai section to 40% or 30% - Increased to 25%

[Dusk]
00:55:905 (3) - maybe remove this or make it the same rhythm as 00:25:530 (3) ? - Haven't changed, because 1/3 will be hard for an Easy
01:07:905 (2) - ^
01:15:030 (3) - NC this - Done
01:36:030 (3) - the song is already very relaxing so adding a break will make it boring so maybe map the break? - I believe Easy should have a break
02:10:530 (4) - NC? - Done

[Midnight]
00:42:030 (1) - uhhh looks like a broken slider :o - Ok, changed. Though I thought it looks cool :<
00:48:030 (1) - the sudden rising pace startle me here, I guess I got caught of guard after the relaxing intro
01:00:780 (5,1) - the jump is rather too big it doesn't fun, I can only see this as an attempt for symmetry - Changed
01:10:248 (3,4,1) - this different rhythm stack is not very good imo, maybe unstacked 1? - Haven't changed

that's all from me Good Luck~
Star
Thank you!
Kitsunemimi
2,188 posts
Joined April 2009
Kitsunemimi
Oh my, you have a slow map..~

[Dusk]:
Yeah.. this is a fairly long, slow map... so hmm..
Nothing wrong or anything here but... it's too plain.
There are no hitsounds, so you really want to add tho-- Oh..
Oh what. Well, I guess you didn-- What the...
Okay, I just downloaded your thing, and there's no custom hitsound here except the blank clap. But at least you have that.
You might be able to add some whistles here and there randomly, but I don't really feel like making suggestions atm ._. It's you map after all.
And aside from that, the map basically consists of either single circles, or single sliders. Mix up the conbinations more, give the sliders more reverses, or make some of them longer (2 beats... but only for some). A good place for 2 beat sliders is 00:18:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2).
You should probably increase the HP drain by a bit.
...Yeah... just try to keep the map as not-boring as possible, because that would be something to look out for.

[Midnight]:
Woo hoo more exciting!
00:00:030 (1,2,3,4) - These semi-curvy sliders look pretty ugly. You might as well make them smooth. Same goes for the rest of them in your map.
01:17:655 (3) - I see what you're trying to do here with these slow sliders, but in the end, I think they'll just get frustrating. Just make them normal sliders... Or 'fast' sliders.
01:36:030 - 02:00:030 - I can't help but think you could've done something better for this part. It feels like a slow section, but I can't think of anything more than making the hitsound volume fade out and in.... Sorry for making my mod post so... vague, but you've got a special map.
02:12:030 (7) - Plain ending ._. Make it a finish? Make it a silenced note? Maybe you should make this part a spinner? Do something... anything!!

...Err yeah... I usually don't make mods this vague, and I often offer suggestions, but I guess your map was just different. Don't get me wrong, it's really nice in its own way, but you just need to spice it up a bit. Hope this mod helped~

I'll shoot a star when this becomes less boring (mainly the easy diff)
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
wcx19911123
HI
Here is my mod4mod

[Dusk]
00:39:030 (1,2,3,4,1) - pentagon ?
00:45:030 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
01:01:530 (2) - longer , repeat at 01:02:092 and end at 01:02:655

[Midnight]
00:00:030 (1) - I really don't like slider shape like this one , ohter sliders like this are same
00:18:030 (1) - This slider is much better , but all is up to you
00:48:780 (5,1) - This jump is ok , but why only have this jump? I think more jump after is interesting
00:58:530 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make them look like a pentagon please
01:08:092 (2,3) - Ctrl + R
02:07:717 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pentagon ?

Good map
Star~
Kurosanyan
2,642 posts
Joined November 2009
Kurosanyan
I think it really needs another diff with 3~4 stars. While the easy is boring, the insane is a bit hard for standard players.
Also imo AR is too low on the insane and would be way better at 8 instead of 7.
Don't kudo this post of course.
Anyway you did a great job on such a boring but cool tune, have a star :3 I'll mod it more later maybe.
Kert
2,079 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
Uff, that was quite a hard task to apply all your mods.

Anyway,
- Full resubmit
- Added whistles to all diffs, finishes at the ends and kiai time there also
- Did all pentagon stuff
- Increased AR in Midnight by 1
- Fixed a bunch of things Kitsunemimi mentioned in Midnight

Thanks, guys!
Kamure
735 posts
Joined August 2009
Kamure
Ok, for a real mod4mod.

General
  1. Is it just me or the offset is a tiny bit late?
  2. I agree with Kurosanyan with adding a diff....
[Dusk]
  1. Well, the beginning is boring, but I don't blame you. Try adding a finish every 8 measures and maybe some whistles. It's boring enough enough to hear the hit/clap/hit/clap pattern.
  2. 00:25:530 (3) - On every slider like this, try putting the whistle on each end
  3. Wherever that little tune is, try putting a whistle there
  4. 01:33:030 (1) - remove combo
[Midnight]
  1. Same boring stuff and hitsounds with [Dusk]
  2. 00:00:030 (1) - I don't particularly like the slider shape. More rounder? Same goes for the others.
  3. 00:24:030 (1) - remove the red sliderpoint into a normal one
  4. 00:36:030 (1) - ^
  5. 00:42:030 (1) - ^
  6. 00:48:030 - Hmm, a little surprising isn't it?
  7. 00:48:780 (5,1) - Too big of a jump
Heh, Good Luck!
Kert
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Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
"chamelepeace710"
Ok, for a real mod4mod.

General
  1. Is it just me or the offset is a tiny bit late? - Maybe it is, I'll ask someone to check that
  2. I agree with Kurosanyan with adding a diff....
- It is in the works...

[Dusk]
  1. Well, the beginning is boring, but I don't blame you. Try adding a finish every 8 measures and maybe some whistles. It's boring enough enough to hear the hit/clap/hit/clap pattern. - I can't think of any more hitsounds that would fit the song..
  2. 00:25:530 (3) - On every slider like this, try putting the whistle on each end - Done
  3. Wherever that little tune is, try putting a whistle there - Done
  4. 01:33:030 (1) - remove combo
- Removed

[Midnight]
  1. Same boring stuff and hitsounds with [Dusk]
  2. 00:00:030 (1) - I don't particularly like the slider shape. More rounder? Same goes for the others. - I changed
  3. 00:24:030 (1) - remove the red sliderpoint into a normal one - You are asking me to remove something fresh.. I am just getting sick of simple arcs
  4. 00:36:030 (1) - ^
  5. 00:42:030 (1) - ^
  6. 00:48:030 - Hmm, a little surprising isn't it?
  7. 00:48:780 (5,1) - Too big of a jump - I think it's fine so do the modders above ^
Heh, Good Luck!
Thank you!
EnPassant
206 posts
Joined September 2009
EnPassant
Alright.

Overall:
-The map is a bit slow, but in the early parts that's not your problem. "Dusk" could use some extra rhythm to it, the diff has low enough EVERYTHING to hold grace notes. I'll give examples in Easy modding.
-I would personally darken the red and blue hits a bit, to fit the scheme of the map. Your red is definitely not representative of night.
-You should include a third difficulty, even though you are not required to. If you don't want to make one personally, you can always request another player to make one, but of course this has difficulties of it's own. Still, your call, it's rankable with two diffs, so Moot point.saw the post in chamele's mod response
-No spinners. I get why, this would be a difficult map to add any to. Ignore that. I can't find any either.


Dusk:
All fine, but you can add parts to spice up the map without causing too much problem for the newbies.

*ALL SUGGESTIONS*
00:50:092 (X) - looks and sounds good if you stack it, can be repeated at 00:53:092 as well.
00:55:155 (X) - I would suggest adding a note here, possibly removing 00:56:655 (5) for the break.
00:56:092 (X) - Fits the drums, plays nicely, and will fit the pattern no matter how you leave it.
00:58:155 (X) - Possibly? Lots of drum here, would like to have something in the space.
01:02:655 (X) - Yes
01:05:655 (X) - Maybe
01:14:655 (X) - Yes, Possibly also at 01:13:155 (X) and 01:16:155 (2) (I recommend all of these)

As a matter of fact, a lot of the areas after 01:14:655 could use additions like these. Anytime you have long or repeating sliders, it it a good idea to follow those up with hits on the red / white tick directly after. This should solve your "Slow map" problems for good.

Otherwise, the map is fine.

Midnight:
HP drain - 1 minimum, IMO 2. Auto loses 1/3 of it's HP before even reaching the first fast section with 100% accuracy.

You use lots of jumps soon to follow, so without reducing the HP drain, many players will find a lot of trouble before even really getting into the map. This may discourage people from re-plays, and hurt your rating when they finally pass this "Sunofabish difficulty"

AR + 1 or 2. It works fine for me now, but the notes can be difficult to distinguish at times at it's current Approach Rate.

Otherwise, it's fine.

I'll start the map, possibly pending a KDst if you can fix Dusk up a bit.

Good luck

Edit: Great wall of China, Anyone?
Kert
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Topic Starter
Kert
I spiced up Dusk as much as I could..
Also darkened colours and decreased drain/increased AR
Thanks for the suggestions, I would never thought about these beat placements
narakucrimson
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narakucrimson
Hi! Here goes my mod4mod:

[General]
  1. First thing to say is that this looks great, and I could find almost nothing :O. Great use of hitsounds!
[Dusk]
  1. 18:030 (1)- With this time snappings, these kind of "jumps" aren't even noticeable, but I'd use the correct ds anyway... Iit would screw up the symmetry with the next (1), though :/
  2. 02:12:030 (T)- I suggest increasing the volume by ~10%, it seems way too low as it is :3
  3. Great Easy!
[Midnight]
  1. I suggest lowering the AR by 1 tick, it seems too fast for the slow slider velocity and it makes you feel like forced to hit (at least in the slow parts)
  2. 49:342 (1)- Woah that's a big jump there! I suggest decreasing the distance snapping.
That's all I could find. Sorry if it's too poor ;_;

Anyway the point is you did a great job, so you definitely have my star~~
Kert
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Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
I spent over an hour trying to fix that small spacing problem in Dusk and that jump in Midnight aaand I haven't succeed! >_< (this is ridiculous)
Probably I'll leave that as it is for now..
I don't want to increase the last notes' hitsound volume, becuase it stands out for my taste pretty a lot :x
AR is so questionable.. I had a low AR originally, but people asked me to increase it, now you ask me to return it back xD
Let it be as it is because in the fast part the map looks just messy with all those approaching circles ~_~

Thanks for taking a look! Sorry, that I couldn't change anything >_<
Hyguys
1,272 posts
Joined May 2010
Hyguys
HHHHHHHHHHHHello. Mod4mod ~
Red is error~!
Blue is suggestion!
Black you must fix!
:arrow: Dusk!~
00:55:905 HELLO. NO STREAMS ON EASY. ;)
01:07:905 ^ Ehm , what about a reverse slider?
Hitsounds on kiai are bullshit , just do clap clap normal , clap clap normal , clap clap normal

:arrow: Midnight!~
-1AR
00:16:530 1 grid left (with tiny grid)
Nice diff


Oh well , i didn't found anything wrong on this map. No kudo for me ;_;
narakucrimson
osu! Alumni
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narakucrimson

CracK wrote:

Thanks for taking a look! Sorry, that I couldn't change anything >_<
Never mind :P Modders must always keep in mind while modding that not everything they say must be done~
DerekMcD
1,484 posts
Joined February 2009
DerekMcD
Hello, I'm sorry for being very late for modding your beatmap...

Witchling Sing Along! - Make It Shine
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Blue: You must fix this.
Red: You better fix it!
Orange: Screenshot ahead.
Black: Just suggestions though.

Dusk

00:01:530 (2): A little bit of snapping.
00:06:780 (2): Move one grid right.
00:07:530 (3): Move one grid left.
00:09:405 (2): It's not snapped a little it though.
00:13:530 (2): Move one grid down.
00:22:530 (2): Move one grid left.

Midnight

Have nothing to say....

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That's it, make sure you'll mod my beatmap back, okay? *Star*
Thank you and good luck.
Kert
2,079 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
2Hyguys:
Triplets -> 2 notes now, because as the test showed me, these triplets are hard for a new player
Haven't changed the AR, you can see previous posts
I guess I'll need a poll for that haha

2kokoroanime
Fixed pretty much everything.. These incosistences were very unnoticable though

Thank you!
narakucrimson
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narakucrimson

kokoroanime wrote:

00:06:780 (2): Move one grid right.
00:07:530 (3): Move one grid left.
00:09:405 (2): It's not snapped a little it though.
00:13:530 (2): Move one grid down.
00:22:530 (2): Move one grid left.
WHAT? That's ultra nazi and no one notices while playing ¬¬ If you read this, kokoroanime, please try to avoid that kind of mods unless it is veeeery necessary
Miu Matsuoka
662 posts
Joined May 2008
Miu Matsuoka
Please take '?' as suggestions.

[Overall]
Would be great if you add a muted 'soft-sliderslide.wav'

[Dusk]
01:27:030 (3) - Remove New Combo?
01:54:780 (2) - Change Clap to Whistle instead?

[Midnight]
AR: I think 8 is probably too high... :o Change it to 7?
00:57:405 (4) - Remove Whistle
01:00:405 (1) - New Combo?
01:01:530 (1) - Better not overlap previous circles (01:00:780 (3))
01:01:905 (2) - ^ (01:01:342 (3))
01:30:780 (3) - Whistle?
01:37:530 (3,4) - Make it spreader than (1,2)
01:42:968 (2) - Remove Clap? (Music don't have a beat there)
01:45:030 (1) - Clap
01:46:530 (5) - ^
01:55:530 (5) - ^
01:58:530 (5) - ^
02:11:655 (5) - Remove Clap?

Star~
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