2016-11-10 18:16 iloveyou4ever: Hi,I want to do you usually testplay or mod taiko maps?
2016-11-10 18:17 Doyak: I can testplay, but mod uhh
2016-11-10 18:17 iloveyou4ever: I have a taiko map but i don't know if you're willing to test it :<
2016-11-10 18:17 Doyak: I would m4m
2016-11-10 18:17 Doyak: I am getting a testpaly right now
2016-11-10 18:17 iloveyou4ever: ehh just testplay is fine,it is not submitted yet
2016-11-10 18:17 Doyak: and I have something to look at after that
2016-11-10 18:17 Doyak: then I can testplay yours
2016-11-10 18:18 iloveyou4ever: ok Thx a lot
maybe I just put the map link here and see if you like the song or not
2016-11-10 18:18 iloveyou4ever:
https://puu.sh/sdnxB.osz2016-11-10 18:18 iloveyou4ever: 5.17* I think you can play this XDD
2016-11-10 18:19 Doyak: if that's not a troll then I should be able to xD
2016-11-10 18:19 iloveyou4ever: that's not troll xD,I think it's good(at least for me...)
2016-11-10 18:32 Doyak: Okay I start playing now
2016-11-10 18:33 iloveyou4ever: ok
2016-11-10 18:33 iloveyou4ever: I just afk for 5 min XD
2016-11-10 18:38 Doyak: stupid misses xD
2016-11-10 18:38 iloveyou4ever: yep you could FC this ofc xD
2016-11-10 18:40 iloveyou4ever: sadly you don't mod taiko...:3
2016-11-10 18:40 Doyak: 00:51:402 (176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187) - the drum is actually intense at 00:51:931 (182,183,184,185,186,187) -
2016-11-10 18:40 Doyak: so I think the density should be reversed
2016-11-10 18:41 Doyak: 01:01:725 - 01:01:814 - leaving these empty... hmm
2016-11-10 18:42 iloveyou4ever: change for 00:51 one :3
2016-11-10 18:42 iloveyou4ever: but there is no drum sound between 01:01:725 there...
2016-11-10 18:42 iloveyou4ever: I feel weird there also but idk how to deal with it
2016-11-10 18:42 Doyak: 01:09:402 (302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320) - I feel the song's intensity has been a bit calmed down, but uhh I don't see much difference
2016-11-10 18:43 Doyak: there is definitely drums at 01:01:725 - and 01:01:814 -
2016-11-10 18:43 Doyak: it's just a little smaller than 01:01:902 (260) - , but same kind
2016-11-10 18:43 iloveyou4ever: 01:01:814 -
2016-11-10 18:44 iloveyou4ever: I add a note here so it may play better
2016-11-10 18:45 iloveyou4ever: 01:09:402 -
2016-11-10 18:45 iloveyou4ever: I change to something like this
2016-11-10 18:45 iloveyou4ever: 01:09:402 -
2016-11-10 18:45 iloveyou4ever:
http://puu.sh/sdotE.jpg2016-11-10 18:45 iloveyou4ever: sorry wrong link XD
2016-11-10 18:46 Doyak: hmm yeah I think simplying it would be cool
2016-11-10 18:46 Doyak: since the song is actually stronger on 01:12:931 - , but you only use 1/2s here so yeah
2016-11-10 18:46 Doyak: 01:16:461 (353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369) - I may suggest this
http://puu.sh/sdox5/dec5efbcb6.jpg2016-11-10 18:47 Doyak: since the drums are mostly gone after 01:17:167 -
2016-11-10 18:47 Doyak: and the piano sounds start there
2016-11-10 18:47 Doyak: which I think fits better with kats
2016-11-10 18:48 iloveyou4ever: nice suggestion and explanation!!!
2016-11-10 18:49 Doyak: 01:36:931 (519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527) - I would reduce some intensity here, since the drum gets more intense at 01:37:637 -
2016-11-10 18:49 Doyak: so that you can emphasize them better
2016-11-10 18:49 iloveyou4ever: 01:12:490 - and 01:13:019 - I add note here
2016-11-10 18:50 Doyak: 01:40:196 - fill this out?
2016-11-10 18:50 iloveyou4ever: yes I didn't realise I could emphasis themn better
2016-11-10 18:51 iloveyou4ever: emm I think leaving it blank is fine
2016-11-10 18:51 iloveyou4ever: highlighting 01:40:284 - and 01:40:461 - this
2016-11-10 18:51 Doyak: 01:42:931 - 01:43:019 - imo it's better to make these kats, so that that kind of drums are all represented as kats, including 01:41:872 - 01:41:961 -
2016-11-10 18:53 iloveyou4ever: ok I thought putting variation here but your yeah I would follow the drum sound here now
2016-11-10 18:54 Doyak: 01:50:431 - 01:50:519 - also feels better with kats, there's a cymbal sound and good with the drums and melodies
2016-11-10 18:54 Doyak: 01:54:225 - 01:54:314 - k's for same reason
2016-11-10 18:56 Doyak: 02:00:225 (731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747) - I think you need to emphasize the cymbals better here, like
http://puu.sh/sdoPD/44a1cf2d96.jpg2016-11-10 18:56 iloveyou4ever: 01:50:343 -
2016-11-10 18:56 iloveyou4ever: I change to ddkkk
2016-11-10 18:56 Doyak: random k's between them makes it less emphasizing imo
2016-11-10 18:57 iloveyou4ever: ok that sounds good also!! 02:00:225
2016-11-10 18:57 Doyak: 02:13:108 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37) - I think it's better to emphasize here more than 02:12:225 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - so that you can emphasize the transition to the next section
2016-11-10 18:58 Doyak: 02:17:167 (59,60,61,62,63) - 02:17:872 (64,65,66,67,68,69) - mind using same patterns here? Because the drums are kinda doing that
2016-11-10 18:59 Doyak: divided by 02:17:167 - 02:17:872 - cymbals
2016-11-10 18:59 iloveyou4ever: Ok!!
2016-11-10 19:00 Doyak: 02:22:725 (108) - imo better to disconnect
2016-11-10 19:00 iloveyou4ever: 02:17:167 -
2016-11-10 19:00 iloveyou4ever: and is it better to change to finisher?
2016-11-10 19:00 Doyak: oh that's good too
2016-11-10 19:00 Doyak: but maybe there are some other similar parts
2016-11-10 19:00 Doyak: you can try it on those if they exist
2016-11-10 19:01 iloveyou4ever: ok remove note at 02:22:725
2016-11-10 19:03 Doyak: 02:40:196 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - I guess you did this for variation, but the rhythm is a bit twisted for no reason I think?
2016-11-10 19:03 iloveyou4ever: map according to guitar pitch here
2016-11-10 19:03 Doyak: then why 02:40:637 - is d while 02:40:725 - is k?
2016-11-10 19:05 iloveyou4ever: I agree 02:17:167 - change to k
2016-11-10 19:05 iloveyou4ever: 02:40:637 -
2016-11-10 19:05 iloveyou4ever: my ctrl+c sucks...
2016-11-10 19:06 Doyak: sorry I can't give you good alternations
2016-11-10 19:06 Doyak: I'm not a good Taiko mapper xD
2016-11-10 19:06 iloveyou4ever: 02:40:725 - has same pitch as 02:40:637-,I will keep as k
2016-11-10 19:06 iloveyou4ever: your mod is very good tho
2016-11-10 19:07 iloveyou4ever: better than most of the taiko modder XD
2016-11-10 19:07 Doyak: xD
2016-11-10 19:07 Doyak: 02:47:784 - delete this? I think the stream is too long to represent nothing
2016-11-10 19:08 iloveyou4ever: ok,I don't wear headphone while mapping and my home is quite noisy ;;
2016-11-10 19:08 iloveyou4ever: so I may not hear some drum sounds clearly
2016-11-10 19:08 Doyak: oh it's hard to hear then really
2016-11-10 19:09 Doyak: I wear earphones in like 99.9% of the time playing osu so yeah
2016-11-10 19:09 iloveyou4ever: and I mix up quite some notes at the guitar+drum part here
2016-11-10 19:09 iloveyou4ever: ;w; that's great
2016-11-10 19:09 Doyak: hmm but the last guitar sound is 02:47:519 - here
2016-11-10 19:09 iloveyou4ever: modding quality will be better when wearing headphone I swear xD
2016-11-10 19:10 Doyak: and 02:47:784 - has only a very small drum
2016-11-10 19:10 iloveyou4ever: but here starts drum...
2016-11-10 19:10 iloveyou4ever: 02:47:608 -
2016-11-10 19:10 iloveyou4ever: I will leave here empty then
2016-11-10 19:10 Doyak: Well do as you want
2016-11-10 19:11 iloveyou4ever: and you inspire me how to do!!
2016-11-10 19:11 iloveyou4ever: awesome
2016-11-10 19:11 Doyak: 02:50:167 - how about d, so that you can emphasize 02:50:343 - 02:50:608 - 02:50:872 - better
2016-11-10 19:11 iloveyou4ever: oh yes I mapped this wrongly...
2016-11-10 19:12 Doyak: Oh wait
2016-11-10 19:12 Doyak: I hear some 1/6 guitars here
2016-11-10 19:13 Doyak: like 02:51:814 - 02:51:872 -
2016-11-10 19:14 iloveyou4ever: I map to drum here(but according to guitar pitch)
2016-11-10 19:14 iloveyou4ever: putting 1/6 here is too sudden and weird ;;
2016-11-10 19:14 Doyak: ah well then it's okay I guess
2016-11-10 19:15 Doyak: 03:15:402 (272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282) - hmm what's the meaning of this long stream?
2016-11-10 19:16 iloveyou4ever: guitar+drum here
2016-11-10 19:16 Doyak: then how about deleting 03:15:667 - this
2016-11-10 19:16 Doyak: and I think you can put really long stream 03:16:461 - here
2016-11-10 19:16 iloveyou4ever: nice idea!!
2016-11-10 19:17 Doyak: that's the most intense part of this section I think
2016-11-10 19:17 Doyak: also imo 03:19:284 - needs some disconnection
2016-11-10 19:17 Doyak: if that's not a full stream section
2016-11-10 19:20 iloveyou4ever: 03:16:461 -
2016-11-10 19:20 iloveyou4ever:
http://puu.sh/sdpN4.jpg2016-11-10 19:21 iloveyou4ever: I change to something like this
2016-11-10 19:22 Doyak: omg I can't read it
2016-11-10 19:23 Doyak: use 1.4x sv speed please xD
2016-11-10 19:23 iloveyou4ever:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/65328862016-11-10 19:24 Doyak: I don't know how each of the notes would work but I hope it's okay
2016-11-10 19:24 iloveyou4ever: I think it's fine xD
2016-11-10 19:24 Doyak: 03:22:108 - from this part, how about focusing more on dons?
2016-11-10 19:25 Doyak: the drums dont have much of high-tone
2016-11-10 19:25 iloveyou4ever: 1/4 drum sound here onwards...
2016-11-10 19:25 Doyak: Yes I mean
2016-11-10 19:25 Doyak: too many kats
2016-11-10 19:25 Doyak: like there's no difference than other pats
2016-11-10 19:25 Doyak: but the drums here are mostly deep sounds
2016-11-10 19:26 iloveyou4ever: 03:22:461 -
2016-11-10 19:26 Doyak: Yeah except those 2/4th beat
2016-11-10 19:26 iloveyou4ever: ok I will focus on the secondth and fouth beat in each bars
2016-11-10 19:26 Doyak: everything else can be expressed as dons
2016-11-10 19:26 iloveyou4ever: maybe I will map k for 2/4th beat to emphasis the high tone drum sound
2016-11-10 19:26 iloveyou4ever: and other map as d
2016-11-10 19:27 Doyak: sounds good
2016-11-10 19:27 Doyak: 03:31:196 - add d?
2016-11-10 19:27 iloveyou4ever: sounds good too!!
2016-11-10 19:28 Doyak: 03:38:255 (479) - move to 03:38:608 - ?
2016-11-10 19:29 Doyak: 03:42:314 - imo should be k
2016-11-10 19:29 Doyak: 03:42:843 - also k
2016-11-10 19:30 iloveyou4ever: reject for 03:38:255 I think it's fine
2016-11-10 19:30 iloveyou4ever: 03:38:696 - 4 notes here can emphasis the long stream aonwards
2016-11-10 19:31 Doyak: from 03:41:872 - here,
http://puu.sh/sdq8U/4f56c08037.jpg2016-11-10 19:31 Doyak: or 03:42:931 - d too
2016-11-10 19:32 iloveyou4ever: nice change as your suggestion nice
2016-11-10 19:32 Doyak: 03:49:902 (585,586,587,588) - not much drums left here, just use 1/2s maybe?
2016-11-10 19:33 Doyak: I'd just do
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6532910 this
2016-11-10 19:33 Doyak: shouldn't 03:59:167 - 03:59:696 - be ks?
2016-11-10 19:33 Doyak: 04:00:225 - as well
2016-11-10 19:33 iloveyou4ever: 03:50:078 - I think I will just remove this note only
2016-11-10 19:34 iloveyou4ever: the piano is important here
2016-11-10 19:34 Doyak: oh yeah if you meant piano then fill the 1/2s
2016-11-10 19:34 Doyak: 04:07:637 (658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665) - there's a drum pattern that has frequency of 1/1s
2016-11-10 19:35 iloveyou4ever: ok changed
2016-11-10 19:35 Doyak: so I think k d k d k ddk is better
2016-11-10 19:35 iloveyou4ever: nice point...
2016-11-10 19:35 Doyak: 04:09:049 - also k
2016-11-10 19:36 iloveyou4ever: ok
2016-11-10 19:36 Doyak: 04:12:137 - 04:12:225 - swap? 04:12:137 - has higher tone drum
2016-11-10 19:37 Doyak: 04:25:858 - uhh why manually edited break?
2016-11-10 19:37 iloveyou4ever: I think there are main drum sound for every beat in this part
2016-11-10 19:38 iloveyou4ever: and I didn't map to guitar here
2016-11-10 19:38 iloveyou4ever: well there are density notes and streams before XD
2016-11-10 19:39 iloveyou4ever: I think putting break here is good to let player have a rest
2016-11-10 19:39 Doyak: but the drum pattern is like 04:11:872 - 04:12:137 - 04:12:402 - 04:12:578 -
2016-11-10 19:39 Doyak: I mean
2016-11-10 19:39 Doyak:
http://puu.sh/sdqqn/f4a231a1da.jpg manually edited
2016-11-10 19:39 Doyak:
http://puu.sh/sdqqO/89730784ae.jpg automatic
2016-11-10 19:39 Doyak: look at the color xD
2016-11-10 19:40 iloveyou4ever: o.o is it fine..?
2016-11-10 19:40 Doyak: Well I don't see a time difference anyway
2016-11-10 19:40 Doyak: but you can remove it
2016-11-10 19:40 Doyak: by dragging the end point to the far right
2016-11-10 19:41 iloveyou4ever: ok I understand what you mean at 04:11:872
2016-11-10 19:41 iloveyou4ever: that's nice suggestion :3 and I change to ddkddkddkdkdkdkkd
2016-11-10 19:44 Doyak: 04:36:402 (42,43) - this snap is vague
2016-11-10 19:44 Doyak: seems like the drum is on like 04:36:343 - and 04:36:519 - or something
2016-11-10 19:45 Doyak: you can say 04:36:402 - has a vocal but 04:36:490 - is uhh
2016-11-10 19:45 iloveyou4ever: map to drum at 04:36:225 -
2016-11-10 19:46 iloveyou4ever: but for 04:36:402- I want to map as vocal here :<
2016-11-10 19:46 iloveyou4ever: since 04:36:402 - the high tone vocal is more sigificant in this part
2016-11-10 19:46 Doyak: Yes b ut
2016-11-10 19:46 Doyak: 04:36:490 - what about this note
2016-11-10 19:47 Doyak: I think the drum is still being 1/6 here
2016-11-10 19:47 iloveyou4ever: I can't hear clearly as the home is really noisy...
2016-11-10 19:47 Doyak: Well check it yourself when it gets quiet
2016-11-10 19:48 iloveyou4ever: ok...
2016-11-10 19:48 Doyak: 04:49:108 - better to be k?
2016-11-10 19:49 iloveyou4ever:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/65329572016-11-10 19:49 iloveyou4ever: what if I change like this?
2016-11-10 19:49 Doyak: I'm not really sure about that though, but maybe that works?
2016-11-10 19:49 iloveyou4ever: I changed some pattern here when you afk for about a minute here xD
2016-11-10 19:49 iloveyou4ever: I will ask for other modders' opinion
2016-11-10 19:50 Doyak: anyway from 04:48:931 -
http://puu.sh/sdqLZ/46876f3c59.jpg2016-11-10 19:50 Doyak: 04:52:461 (180,181,182,183,184,185) - 04:53:167 (186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194) - ok here's this thing again
2016-11-10 19:50 Doyak: same repeating drums
2016-11-10 19:52 Doyak: I guess the rest is fine
2016-11-10 19:52 iloveyou4ever: I will map according to the first kiai time in order to keep the consistency
2016-11-10 19:53 Doyak: Will you upload this map?
2016-11-10 19:54 iloveyou4ever: I will check for the remaining part
2016-11-10 19:54 iloveyou4ever: after I have free slot for my pending maps
2016-11-10 19:54 Doyak: I want some kudosu xD
2016-11-10 19:54 iloveyou4ever: you could save log to in order to take my kudos <3
2016-11-10 19:54 iloveyou4ever: Ok sure
2016-11-10 19:54 iloveyou4ever: very useful mod I'd say...
2016-11-10 19:55 iloveyou4ever: can you also bub taiko map xD?
2016-11-10 19:55 Doyak: I technically can
2016-11-10 19:55 Doyak: but I will get smashed by Loctav if I do so xD
2016-11-10 19:55 iloveyou4ever: ah yes ww I was just kidding xD
2016-11-10 19:57 iloveyou4ever: anyways thx for detail mod
2016-11-10 19:57 Doyak: So can I ask you for mod too? xD
2016-11-10 19:58 iloveyou4ever: emm I can only mod taiko map :<
2016-11-10 19:58 Doyak: of it's a Taiko map
2016-11-10 19:58 iloveyou4ever: ok sure then
2016-11-10 19:59 Doyak: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/904996 Nana Mizuki - No Limit]
2016-11-10 19:59 Doyak: I do have a ranked Taiko mapset too
2016-11-10 20:00 iloveyou4ever: oh bub pop o.o
2016-11-10 20:00 iloveyou4ever: you may apply for taiko BN too xD
2016-11-10 20:00 iloveyou4ever: as I think your modding quality is quite good
2016-11-10 20:00 Doyak: I thought of doing that but I abandoned it last round
2016-11-10 20:01 Doyak: since I really haven't modded much of Taiko maps yet...
2016-11-10 20:01 Doyak: maybe I'll try next round
2016-11-10 20:01 iloveyou4ever: good luck :3
2016-11-10 20:01 iloveyou4ever: but that would be too harsh...
2016-11-10 20:02 iloveyou4ever: and more players will ask you for mods then xD
2016-11-10 20:02 Doyak: That's alright, I already know how to reject requests xD
2016-11-10 20:03 iloveyou4ever: but I saw many modder will try to play the map first
2016-11-10 20:03 iloveyou4ever: and to decide whether to mod or not
2016-11-10 20:04 Doyak: hmm I don't really do that
2016-11-10 20:04 iloveyou4ever: then how would you decide to accept mod or not
2016-11-10 20:04 Doyak: I announce it on my userpage
2016-11-10 20:04 Doyak: whether I'll take requests or not
2016-11-10 20:05 Doyak: people should ask me when it's open
2016-11-10 20:05 Doyak: then it's accepted
2016-11-10 20:05 Doyak: testplays are usually open but I don't really mod it just by testplaying it
2016-11-10 20:06 Doyak: your map is a different case because it's a Taiko map and I won't icon it anyway
2016-11-10 20:06 iloveyou4ever: oic,that's also the way of taiko BN to do that
2016-11-10 20:06 iloveyou4ever: yep
2016-11-10 20:06 iloveyou4ever: if I ask you to testplay a std map,probably you wont mod it xDD
2016-11-10 20:07 Doyak: Usually I won't
2016-11-10 20:07 Doyak: actually I can mod it but only briefly
2016-11-10 20:07 Doyak: because a full check requires a lot of time
2016-11-10 20:07 iloveyou4ever: luckily I only map taiko...
2016-11-10 20:08 iloveyou4ever: and you also give a quite full check for my map ><
2016-11-10 20:08 Doyak: it's just that I wanted some Taiko modding experience xD
2016-11-10 20:09 iloveyou4ever: that's good :3
2016-11-10 20:09 Doyak: also I needed some m4ms before calling BNs back on that map
2016-11-10 20:10 iloveyou4ever: ok I will mod in Saturday
2016-11-10 20:10 iloveyou4ever: I promise a taiko BN to mod his map but I havent...
2016-11-10 20:10 iloveyou4ever: so I will clear all my mod on Sat :3
2016-11-10 20:11 Doyak: Sure, take your time
2016-11-10 20:11 iloveyou4ever: remember to save log xD
2016-11-10 20:11 iloveyou4ever: I will call you if I submit the map
2016-11-10 20:11 Doyak: I always auto save every logs
2016-11-10 20:11 iloveyou4ever: ok