This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on zaterdag 21 maart 2009 at 10:50:19

Artist: They Might Be Giants
Title: Upside Down Frown
BPM: 160
Filesize: 2915kb
Play Time: 02:14
Difficulties Available:

1. Hard (4,39 stars, 309 notes)
2. Normal (3,71 stars, 227 notes)

Download: They Might Be Giants - Upside Down Frown
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My map for the They Might Be Giants: Album Project
There's SOME jumps in Hard, so yes they are on purpose.
Enjoy! :]

Tuesday 11 November - Edit: [Normal] Followed Zerostarry's comments :]

Thursday 20 November - Edit: [Normal]: Followed chan's comments.

Sunday 30 November - Edit: [Hard] Followed chan's comments.

Sunday 7 December - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed m980's comments.

Saturday 3 January - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed foulcoon's comments.

Sunday 8 February - Edit: [Hard] Followed james039's comments.

Wednesday 4 March 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed Hara's comments.

Saturday 14 March 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed some of Saturos-fangirl's comments.
Saturday 14 March 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed Seibei4211's comments.

Saturday 21 March 2009 - Edit: [Normal/Hard] Followed Pasonia's comments.

Normal:
00:07:91 (6) - Might want to change the shape of this, these sliders are more suited for a hard difficulty~
00:16:53 (4) - Extend 1/4
01:30:60 (8) - Start 1/4 later, remember to add the break again

Hard:
nothing? lol

Followed your comments, thanks for modding

Could do with more variety of hit sounds throughout the song

[normal]
00:01:72 (3) - extend 1/4
00:03:60 (8) - extend 1/2
00:09:97 (9) - extend 1/2
00:21:41 (8) - shorten 1/2
00:33:60 (3) - extend to 00:34:72 - (get rid of 00:34:63 (4))
00:39:41 (8) - don't make the end/return part of the slider overlap the beginning

Followed ur comments :]

[hard]
00:07:91 (6) - don't make slider paths go back on themselves
02:03:60 (6) - might want to make this neater and easier to follow
02:12:60 (16,1) - spacing is too big

also spacing is not very consistent in hard
for example, compare
01:13:35 (2,3) -
with
01:14:28 (1,2,3,4) -
and also
00:06:22 (1,2,3,4) -
and finally
02:14:28 (1,2,3,4) -

chan wrote:

[hard]
also spacing is not very consistent in hard
for example, compare
01:13:35 (2,3) -
with
01:14:28 (1,2,3,4) -
and also
00:06:22 (1,2,3,4) -
and finally
02:14:28 (1,2,3,4) -

Those are called 'jumps'. I kinda like them in the map.

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Offset 4ms late maybe?

[Normal]
02:03:60 (6) - NO.

[Hard]
01:30:59 (10) - ew, it overlaps right near the start of the slider (looks bad)

Both difficulties made me wanna fall asleep, so if i missed anything bad sue me later.

Fixed thanks for modding

Good map! Everything is pretty much perfect. I have a few adjustments to suggest though to get it 100%

Offset: Update: nevermind, I have to remember I can't help anyone with offsets if I'm working on a machine where it's own offset varies between +/- 20ms during a single session on osu! (stupid on-board audio). But I am convinced (generally) your offset is a tad bit early. Try something in the vicinity of 590-600 (best estimate I can give).

Please snap your notes, they all seem to *nudge* slightly in the timeline when I did this, so somehow they've gotten off track, though *very* slightly (and do it before listening to my super special awesome offset, because it *does* make a difference).

[Normal] I find it to be totally perfect, good stuff!

[Hard]
01:46:25 (4) - Check this note. I expected it to come a beat sooner (on a red tick), if you intentionally wanted it to be hit a bit "late" then it is fine. The spacing you have used here further suggested you meant it to come a beat sooner. (And the fact you have a note on that red-tick in Normal). You would have to move it on screen if you decide to keep it on the blue tick.

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A wonderful song from a great band, and nice map.

A bit of modding:

[Hard]
00:33:596 (4) - Grid snap the end point of this slider, making the last "slider point line" perfectly vertical, keeping length of course.
00:48:971 (3,4,5,6) - Perhaps move these a little to the right without grid snap to align (3) better with end circle of (2).
00:57:971 (2) - Perhaps move the end point of this slider a little down without grid snap and left so it corresponds better with the horizontal alignment of (3).
01:00:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Moving these a little to the left without grid snap so the middle between (3) and (4) is on the Y-axis looks better.
01:18:596 (9) - Moving the end point a little up / up-right without grid snap aligns it better horizontally with next combo, black.
01:30:596 (10) - Could you move the second last (or fourth point) of this slider 3 grids up? It aligns it better with next grey combo vertically.
01:42:971 (3) - Moving the end point here to the right very slightly without grid snap aligns it a little better with (4) vertically.

[Normal]
00:15:221 (1) - Moving this 2 grids to the right looks better, adding a 1 "tick" nudge to the right without grid snap after moving 2 grids looks good as well.
00:45:033 (9,10) - Move 2 grids up, to align (9) better with (7,8).
00:57:971 (2) - Moving this 1 "tick" up without grid snap looks better.
01:04:721 (11) - Same as above but 2-3 "ticks".
01:05:658 (1,2) - Same as above but to the right 2-3 "ticks".
01:18:596 (8) - Same as above but 1-2 "ticks".
01:39:971 (2,4) - Move these about 2 "ticks" down without Grid Snap.
01:43:533 (4) - Move 1 grid to the right.
01:45:408 (1) - Move this about 2 "ticks" down without Grid Snap.
01:58:346 (1) - Move this about 1-2 "ticks" up without Grid Snap.
02:04:721 (7,8) Moving these 1 grid to the left gives better angle between (6) slider's end angle and (7).
02:07:346 (3) - Nudging this about 3 "ticks" to the left would look good here to align better with (2).
02:11:846 (12,13,14) - Move 1 grid to the right to align (12) with (11).

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[Normal]
00:07:91 (6) - can you move this so its less hidden by 4?
00:40:72 (1) - this is too hidden for my liking
00:41:66 (2) - align vertically with 1
00:53:47 (7) - the slider for some reason looks like the top hit got moved down on the slider a bit? it looks weird. delete and place somewhere that isnt under 5
01:02:66 (7) - new combo imo
02:10:35 (9) - ^
map is a bit repetitive, try and mix it up a bit
needs more hitsound


[Hard]
00:26:66 (7) - new combo
00:49:35 (4) - ew move this out from under 2
00:57:60 (1) - move out from under 10
01:02:66 (7) - new combo
01:24:41 (9) - ^
01:53:66 (7) - ^
02:05:10 (8) - lil too close under 6 for my comfort
02:10:34 (11) - new combo
still slightly repetitive
still needs more hitsounds

[Normal]

00:07:91 (6) - Not necessary, it's obvious that it is a slider.
00:40:72 (1) - Not necessary, it's obvious that it is a return-slider.
00:41:66 (2) - Done.
00:53:47 (7) - Was ment to be like this.
01:02:66 (7) - Done.
02:10:35 (9) - Done.

[Hard]

00:26:66 (7) - Done.
00:49:35 (4) - No, sorry.
00:57:60 (1) - Done.
01:02:66 (7) - Done.
01:24:41 (9) - Done.
01:53:66 (7) - Done.
02:05:10 (8) - You can read it quite good actually, won't remove it because of a bit confusion sorry.
02:10:34 (11) - Added some new combo's here.

Hitsounds will come later.
Thanks for modding.

Normal
00:40:72 (1,2) - Ew@Finishes.
00:53:47 (7) - Why is that anchor there? It just makes the slider look ugly.
01:38:65 (10) - Read: Hard
01:48:97 (2) - Nix this note.

Hard
00:03:60 (11) - I think this sounds just a bit better if it ends 1/2 beat later.
00:09:97 (6) - Same.
00:40:72 (1,2,3,4,5) - Isn't this kinda Finish overkill? Seems kinda random, too. In fact, most of these Finishes are just overkill and random. There are such long periods of no hit sounds, then boom, Finish rape.
01:33:60 (1) - Could seriously use a Finish.
01:38:66 (10) - This part would sound so good if you moved this 1/2 beat earlier, then put a note on the two white ticks after it, with the last one being stacked on top of the next combo. Sweet flow, right?

Also, I bet almost every Finish would sound better as a Whistle or something that isn't an obnoxious Finish... I have some sound files of nails on chalkboards if you'd like something less irritating. Oh, and you already know that I like bigger circles.

[Normal]

00:40:72 (1,2) - Changed to Whistles
00:53:47 (7) - Fixed.
01:38:65 (10) - Done.
01:48:97 (2) - Done.

Hard
00:03:60 (11) - Done.
00:09:97 (6) - Done.
00:40:72 (1,2,3,4,5) - Changed to SOME whistles.
01:33:60 (1) - Done.
01:38:66 (10) - Done.

Changed some Finishes to Whistles, changed the circle size.

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