This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 23:48:00

Artist: Matchbox Twenty
Title: I'll Believe You When
BPM: 103,05
Filesize: 4684kb
Play Time: 02:26
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (1,07 stars, 90 notes)
2. Hard (4,91 stars, 286 notes)
3. Normal (4,02 stars, 164 notes)

Download: Matchbox Twenty - I'll Believe You When
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hello. I mapped Matchbox Twenty - I'll believe you When and I noticed the timing sucks. Help, plz.

Added Hard difficulty - Moving to Pending. If someone wants to nazi the timing, go ahead.

Still have to add hitsounds for some points!

Luigifixes
Sinistrofixes
Offsetorzes
Timing

Timing
1. Offset: 14,425ms BPM: 103.123
2. Offset: 60,881ms BPM: 103.964
3. Offset: 88,653ms BPM: 103.325
4. Offset: 137,508ms BPM: 102.111

Probably need to get someone to double-check this timing

This map strikes me as very awkward...

Not yet done D: Look at it when it's in pending.

I'll change muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch

Easy mode:
* 01:46:11 (3,4) - Don't stack these. That 4 could be halfway across the screen.

Normal:
* Increase the Overall Difficulty. With the slow approach circles it's hard to follow.

Hard:
* No real complaints. There are parts that feel a bit cluttered, where I would have spaced stuff out instead of having things pile on top of other things, but that could just be my mapping style not agreeing with yours.

[Easy]
00:48:72 (1) - :/ can you make the slider any prettier and less self-overlappy?
01:11:81 (1) - this is kind of hidden by the previous slider
01:21:05 (3) - also kinda hidden
01:24:01 (1) - hidden
01:37:91 (2) - barely hidden
01:46:11 (3,4) - can you put this in a line with the prev. slider?
02:09:05 (1,2) - prettify slider plz? that might even make this understandable!

[Normal]
00:17:88 (4) - T_T slider shape is so jerky
00:21:37 (3,4) - overlapping slightly
00:25:30 (1,1) - overlap
00:36:50 (2) - partly hidden
00:48:14 (1) - overlapping again
01:13:54 (5) - hidden! i cant even tell when the slider started from before where it is
01:30:94 (1) - ok this is like TOTALLY hidden. fix this nao plz.
01:32:39 (3) - still hidden
01:33:84 (2) - hidden
02:10:06 (3) - i cant tell what this is mapped to D: and a 1/8? no.
02:15:72 (2,3,4) - way to overlap
02:16:89 (4,1,2,3) - this is an uneven stream...the time from the first end to the second beginning is different from the other joinings. id suggest spacing the longer ones.
02:26:88 (1) - white tick for ending plz?


[Hard]
00:15:41 (6,7,8) - this is overkill. do the sliders need to be this short?
00:16:72 (1,2,3) - overlap
00:21:09 (9,1) - hidden
00:40:00 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the double hit (4,5) at the top is confusing just by the way you've done this section. could you put the double on the 7 slider instead?
00:45:81 (3,4) - you really like hiding sliders dont you :<
01:20:48 (4,5,6) - 6 is totally hidden, 5 is just hidden enough to confuse
01:22:79 (4,5,6) - ditto
01:25:74 (4) - move the tail off of the head. I can't tell which direction the slider goes. Also can you prettify it at the same time?
01:30:22 (3,5) - both hidden
01:32:54 (3) - hidden
01:35:01 (1,2,3,4) - all hidden
01:48:15 (1) - the repeat sign is hidden
02:08:91 (1,2,3,4) - overwide spacing. either shrink this or make everything else wider
02:11:61 (1,2,1) - hiding stuff again are we?
02:14:40 (4) - ditto
02:20:42 (3) - another illegal slider. move tail off head, prettify.
02:21:45 (5) - hidden
02:22:77 (5) - same as 02:20:42 (3)
02:23:80 (7) - same as 02:21:45 (5)
02:24:53 (1,1,1,1) - this just feels weirdly mapped, with the mix of spinners and hits :/ not required fix but its weird
02:28:21 (1,1,1,1) - spacing is just plain weird and confusing

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

grrr timing. I know this isn't perfect. In fact there are a couple spots that are very audibly wrong, but here's what i got so far.

Download: Matchbox Twenty - I'll Believe You When (Larto) [Hard].osu

So I had just finished timing this when my Internet went down for several hours.

Download: Matchbox Twenty - I'll Believe You When (Larto) [CheeseTime].osu

Timing added~

With the new timing, I think this map has turned out pretty great. Bubbled.

Hard
00:41:59 (7) - With the score explosion from the previous circle it's really hard/impossible to see the reverse symbol on this slider.
00:49:45 (1) - 1/8 longer (yeah, I know.)
01:32:40 (2,3,4,5) - It's...rather challenging to see what's going on here, particularly whether 01:32:83 (4) is a circle or a short slider. Clean it up a little by changing the placement around?
Hard pulls a number of tricks I'm not a huge fan of (closer spacing, stacked circles that are not the same distance apart on the timeline) but they do not render the beatmap unplayable, so I'll decide to put this fact above personal style.

UPDATE: The egregious issues have been addressed, so...ranking.