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Zekira
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awp
First and foremost, include a background. Those playing with NoVideo are facing a black hitcircle on a black background, which is an automatic handicap.

Try an offset of 1077? That should fix your quarter-note snaps back onto proper ticks. Also be mindful of future timing sections, they'll need to be bumped as well. You can actually use inherited timing for these sections, 222 remains in time with the beat.

[Difficult]
00:14:86 (2,3) - while it seems obvious, you might need to mind the beatspacing here. I'd get some more opinions on this, because I'm fine with this sort of thing, but I can foresee getting bitched at by those who aren't.
00:39:99 (1,2,3,4,1) - these patterns are cool, but spread them out. It's just stack after stack after stack in the same spot, y'know? And don't be afraid to break some of those repeat sliders into slider+note just to mix it up a bit.

[Expert]
00:01:08 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, cool patterns, but there's no sense of beatspacing at all, and it's a bit clusterfucky. Watch the map in autoplay and you'll see it moving to click lots of 300s instead of notes.
00:39:32 (1,1) - These are a big no-no. Spinners should be absolute minimum 350ms long to avoid being a dick in the map. These ones are 130ms.
00:39:99 (1,2,3,4,1) - Again, fun patterns, but they're copy-pasta'd way too much. You're essentially doing the same 1.5 seconds over and over again for 15 seconds.
Apart from that, the circle size is a bit too large and the maps are too similar.

You get a 0.26kB star~
Topic Starter
Zekira
I should really do something about the repetitiveness of that part, really, but it was themed to be like that -- maybe I'll make it a repeat of 8 beats or something, as long as it keeps a repetitive loop.

Yes, circles are too large. >_>

EDIT: Updated a few stuff.
CheeseWarlock
There are a lot of spacing inconsistencies here, and only some of them work out well. The second timing section should be snapped to 1/3s (And the others to 1/2), and you've got a lot of things (including slider ends) that are on 1/4s for no real reason. And it only seems to have two difficulties... try reuploading? Also, black sort of fails as a hitcircle colour here because so much of the background video is black. Makes approach circles practically invisible.

[Difficult]
00:01:07 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This spacing is a terrible way to start the map. No establishment of rhythm for people to work with, just a sudden "waaargh?!"
01:03:51 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is also terrible spacing.

[Expert]
I sort of hate the way spinners are thrown in there in the middle section. But maybe that's just because I can't do it. Get an expert player's opinion on this, I guess. :/
Topic Starter
Zekira
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CheeseWarlock
[Basic]
This doesn't really feel like a "Basic" to me...
00:56:21 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Spacing.

[Difficult]
00:27:02 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't like this spacing, I don't like it one bit.
00:49:45 (1,2,3,4,1,1) - These sliders overlap too much, making it impossible to tell if the second one is a slider or just a hitcircle.
00:56:21 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Spacing inconsistencies.
01:11:62 (1) - Timing overlap at the start, and it ends at an awkward time.
01:17:29 (1,2,3) - While the spacing here is easy to follow, it just doesn't look as nice as consistency would.

[Expert]
Looks playable aside from the spinners that I'm not sure about, but in all honesty some parts of this difficulty just feel sort of boring.

[All Difficulties]
There's some copy-pasting going on here, and it's sort of a lazy thing to do. I'd recommend remapping so all sections are unique in all difficulties. Also, the 148 BPM thing has its advantages and disadvantages here. By keeping it at 222 (deleting all but the first timing section), you'd make the slider tick rate sound nicer during the slow section but you'd lose the decreased slider speed. Or you could set it to 111 and have even slower sliders, but once again making the tick rate nicer. Just something to consider.
Topic Starter
Zekira
Fixed up as much stuff as I could.
Larto
Add Background
Add some more Hitsounds
You only took the hardest difficulty and removed notes for the "difficult" difficulty? :(
Lotsa spaghetti! copypasta! D:
Please be a bit more careful with spacing next time, I mean, there are some OUCH issues in here.

Anyways

Expert:
00:01:34 (2,3,4,5,6) - Not symmetric >:(
00:02:96 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:07:83 (1) - Too close to last combo's end
00:27:29 (2,3,4,5,6) - Not symmetric >:(
00:28:91 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:33:77 (1) - Too close to last combo's end
00:39:32 (1,1) - Even on expert, these are some un 300able spinners. The argument that Auto can SS it, doesn't count, ya know D:
01:14:12 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
01:25:40 (10) - That slider... it's kinda out of the screen. Fix plz
01:28:64 (10) - That slider would be more nice if moved a bit more down, but it's okay.

Difficult:
That's some.. creative spacing.
00:01:34 (2,3,4,5) - Not symmetric
00:02:96 (2,3,4,5) - ^
00:04:32 (1,2,3) - Move 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:27:29 (2,3,4,5) - Not symmetric
00:28:91 (2,3,4,5) - ^
00:44:04 (1,2,3,4,1) - I'm fine with all the other weird spacings, but that one IS pretty far away.
00:52:15 (1) - Too close to last combo
00:56:21 (1) - ^

Basic:
00:02:69 (1) - Too close to last combo
00:09:18 (1) - ^
00:28:64 (1) - ^
00:35:12 (1) - ^
00:39:99 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:41:34 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
00:42:69 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
00:44:04 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:45:40 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:46:75 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
00:48:10 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
00:49:45 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:50:80 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
00:52:15 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:53:50 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
00:54:86 (1,2,3,4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
I don't like above section as a whole. :(
00:59:45 (1) - Too far from last combo
01:08:37 (4) - Slider feels pretty out of place
01:17:29 (1) - Ugly
01:20:53 (1) - ^

Go fix
MaxwellDemon
Put in at least a 2 seconds lead-in time... this could be done by going to Song Setup > Audio.

Basic
00:30:80 (2) - Considering pulling this 1/2th back?
01:17:29 (1,1) - If possible, pull the end away from the slider track XD

Expert
00:39:32 (1,1) - Erm... Hmm... Somehow, I am pretty damn sure those spinners aren't 300-able. They aren't allowed :(
01:14:12 (1,1,1,1,1) - More un300-able spinners :(
01:25:40 (10) - Waay off screen on play, move it up.

A lot of things I see that the previous BATs, and Larto, had made notes of... such as the weird BPM change (which made no sense, but I thought was a nice touch, Cheese was right in the weird tick rate though), the un300-able spinners, some spacing issues (at the time I looked at it, I thought it was okay), and some off-screen sliders.

Beat-wise, I think there is no problem, I liked how it was mapped. Spacing was a bit iffy, but I thought it was cool and I don't mind overlooking that, to be honest. Other BATs might have other says, but I am not really any big spacing nazi or anything.

The un300-able spinners have to go though. :P
Topic Starter
Zekira
I knew it, a lot of you would ditch me because of the ninja spinners, huh. I'll fix that up later.

Now I'm considering on fixing the BPM change, maybe I'll make a constant 222 for the entire song now... then snap to 1/2.

Yeah, the spinners aren't 300-able by human standards, so I'll fix them up to be only half-ninja, so that it can at least be 300-able with at least 350SPM.

Will fix stuff up later, although Larto... very sensitive grid spacing much? :\ Wait, what do you mean by "Not symmetric"?

Wait, if I add Lead-In Time, do I have to adjust the vid offset, too?
MaxwellDemon
Yeah, you'll also have to fix the video offset too. >_>;
Topic Starter
Zekira
Alright, fixed up as much as I could.
Topic Starter
Zekira
Aw? T_T
Mogsy
The thing is, I'm seeing alignment issues all over the place.

Expert:


00:12:43 (7) - This just looks gross.

And so on.

I'm extremely exhausted at this point so I'll get back to pointing out all the flaws of this map after I regain consciousness.


Topic Starter
Zekira
Which ones in particular, so I can fix? It seems as if the Distance Snap isn't agreeing with me actually :\

Mogsy

Zekira wrote:

Which ones in particular, so I can fix? It seems as if the Distance Snap isn't agreeing with me actually :\
All of the ones that are misaligned. Which means go over it, even if you have to turn grid snap off.
Topic Starter
Zekira
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
MaxwellDemon
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Zekira
What?! But I can SS Expert already... :\
MaxwellDemon
You mean you, as the player, could SS it, or Auto? Auto SS-ing a map is not a valid reason, because it is designed to be... well... a robot.
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