This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 1:51:27 AM

Artist: Daniel Ingram
Title: B.B.B.F.F
Source: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Tags: Mlp twilight shining armor big brother best friend forever dragonsparta moonshade mmzz
BPM: 95
Filesize: 17206kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:

1. Insane (4.97 stars, 274 notes)
2. MM's Taiko Poni (4.54 stars, 229 notes)
3. MoonShade's Hard (4.46 stars, 173 notes)
4. Normal (3.49 stars, 137 notes)
5. Twilight's Easy (1.78 stars, 92 notes)

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F
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Season two was a ending among endings I loved it! So, I figured I might as well map some music from it! This will be my 1st mpl song from the show, hope you like it!
Redownload if you haven't already 5/6/12


Insane 100%

Taikoponi 100% thanks you MMzz

Hard 100% thanks MoonShade

Normal 100%

Easy 100% Dragonsparta thank you!

4/24/12
Applied mods from real on normal and insane awaiting response from moonshade and dragonsparta
applied moonshades changes and added MMzz's taiko
4/26/12 applied jacob's mods
4/26/12 applied -Bakari-'s mods
4/27/12 applied syncs mod awaiting guests to apply there mods.
5/6/12 added some of the skin elements and changed the video to a non watermarked ver
5/7/12 added some of SuperMICrophone's suggestions
5/7/12 timing fixes found thanks to dereks suggestions
5/7/12 fixed error in taikoponi and used syncs taiko mod
5/8/12 slight changes were made to the hitsounds in insane
5/8/12 added in dragonsparta's fixes
5/9/12 added more skin elements subeject to change
5/21/12 added in a few more skin elements still subject to change.
5/29/12 added in the last of the make shift elements and seeing as how my skin maker is tied up you will have to wait for the offical elements in the release of the skin I'm going with these this has been put off long enough.
5/29/12 applied syncs mods and made the last make shift elments while removing the ones that were no longer needed

sweet

\:D/

Hey
Gonna post my diff here
Should be ready soon

EDIT - Done~

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [Twilight's Easy].osu

Like two peas in a pod
We did everything together~

[General]

As I said in IRC, your hitsounds are awesome \:D/
I assume you won't have SB in this, so remove B.B.B.F.F (ztrot).osb from folder and full submit?

[Twilight's Easy]

Remove kiai time? I don't think it fits the song well.
By the way, I suggest changing the diff name to "DragonSparta's Easy"

00:02:808 (3) - *Real is now known as sad panda
00:09:848 (3) - ^
00:11:546 (4,5) - UGLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OVERLAP
00:16:074 (1,2,3) - Use the slider I gave for 00:09:848 (3) - , also ugly overlap for (1,2)
00:27:395 (3) - Move the third sliderpoint to x:64 y:300
00:29:942 (2,3) - I know it almost doesn't overlaps, but it still looks like an ugly overlap k
00:37:018 (7) - Change this slider pl0x
00:42:112 (1) - bleh
00:50:603 (2) - Move the endpoint to x:328 y:132
01:02:489 (5) - bleh
01:09:847 (2) - BLEH
01:11:828 (3) - Try this pattern?

Here's a tip that you should follow for your sliders :

RandomJibberish wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

always align slider endpoints to the smallest possible value - that is, if you drag them any further backwards, the slider will shorten. the point will center itself in the slider end and will make attaining passable curves much easier to accomplish.

Also, doing this makes reverse selection on sliders not fuck them up. Which is a good thing.

[Normal]

01:03:904 - Add a note here?
01:13:810 (5) - Derp overlap with 01:12:678 (3) -
01:22:301 (2) - Move the startpoint (only the startpoint !) to x:256 y:248

[MoonShade's Hard]

00:14:376 (1) - Spacing is not consistent with the pattern before, this is 1,4x while in the previous pattern, "jumps" are 1,0x
00:20:603 (7) - Pointless spacing change
00:22:867 (7) - See 00:14:376 (1) -
00:28:810 (6) - I suggest using this pattern
00:30:225 (3,4,5) - These jumps seem useless
00:36:452 (4) - ^
00:40:414 (3) - ^
00:55:172 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is this supposed to be a star-shaped pattern? If yes, use this
00:59:093 - Add a note?
00:59:376 - ^
01:00:791 (5) - Make this slider symmetrical
01:02:489 (3) - ^
01:05:885 (5) - Pointless jump
01:10:413 (6) - ^

[Insane]

00:02:808 (1,2,3,4,5) - Use the same star pattern as the one I gave in the Hard? (though with timeline/spacing changes)
00:07:301 (2) - Move the second sliderpoint to x:184 y:32 and the fourth to x:328 y:32
00:20:886 (8) - Move the endpoint to x:232 y:112
00:31:074 (6,7) - Move them to x:256 y:160

Nice, I loved the two hardest diffs \:D/

Map rating +1000

iluztrot.

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [MM's Taiko Poni].osu

Real wrote:

00:14:376 (1) - Spacing is not consistent with the pattern before, this is 1,4x while in the previous pattern, "jumps" are 1,0x ~ that's because it's a slider and thus easier to hit and wasn't supposed to have the same spacing in the first place, so I think it's legit
00:20:603 (7) - Pointless spacing change ~ doesn't seem that pointless to me o.o
00:22:867 (7) - See 00:14:376 (1)
00:28:810 (6) - I suggest using this pattern ~ also nice, but I like mine more
00:30:225 (3,4,5) - These jumps seem useless ~ oh, but they aren't. As the chorus is beginning at that point, I wanted them to emphazise this. As they are all sliders with just little jumps, they should be playable.
00:36:452 (4) - ^ ~ again, just sliders, not a problem imo
00:40:414 (3) - ^
00:55:172 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is this supposed to be a star-shaped pattern? If yes, use this ~ I tried it out, it's nice, but I will stick with my spacing, simply because it's a kind of slow part there and this spacing would be too much imo. I made this pattern more symmetric though to make the star shape or whatever more clearly visible
00:59:093 - Add a note? ~ You could do that, but if you want to start with the percussion, you have to wait a little ^^
00:59:376 - ^
01:00:791 (5) - Make this slider symmetrical ~ ok
01:02:489 (3) - ^ ~ kay, allthough it is kind of pointless imo, because no one who is playing it will notice that this slider isn't perfectly symmetrical
01:05:885 (5) - Pointless jump
01:10:413 (6) - ^ ~ nope

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [MoonShade's Hard].osu

Added in moonshades fixes

Real wrote:

[Twilight's Easy]

Remove kiai time? I don't think it fits the song well.
By the way, I suggest changing the diff name to "DragonSparta's Easy" nah

00:02:808 (3) - *Real is now known as sad panda used it

SPOILER

352,232,2808,2,0,B|328:180|256:132|184:180|160:232,1,240
161,229,4071,1,0

00:09:848 (3) - ^ ^

SPOILER

64,248,9848,2,0,B|104:240|148:256|168:304|160:344,2,160,0|8|0

00:11:546 (4,5) - UGLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OVERLAP placed (5) under (4)
00:16:074 (1,2,3) - Use the slider I gave for 00:09:848 (3) - , also ugly overlap for (1,2) i changed a bit
00:27:395 (3) - Move the third sliderpoint to x:64 y:300 ok
00:29:942 (2,3) - I know it almost doesn't overlaps, but it still looks like an ugly overlap k
00:37:018 (7) - Change this slider pl0x i think its okay
00:42:112 (1) - bleh changed
00:50:603 (2) - Move the endpoint to x:328 y:132 ^
01:02:489 (5) - bleh^
01:09:847 (2) - BLEH ^
01:11:828 (3) - Try this pattern?

Here's a tip that you should follow for your sliders : .....
Ok, I'll keep this in mind

*EDIT* Changed the diff a bit at 00:11:546


Thanks~

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [Twilight's Easy].osu

Lazy mod.

[General]

• You forgot the full "Shining Armor" tag in MoonShade's difficulty (you may or may not have fixed this already by the time I post this).
• Make the countdowns consistent throughout each difficulty. Plus, the intro is too short for a countdown. Also, Taiko difficulties shouldn't have a one, just a lead-in time.
• Add all of the ponies' names into the tags since they all sing in the song.
• Disable letterboxing. There's no breaks.
00:05:320 (2) - Starting here, the slider-slide sound is really loud. Make a silenced hitsound for it.
-- I really love the hitsounds on this map.

[Twilight's Easy]

00:04:071 (4) - Don't stack circles under sliders in easy difficulties.
00:05:320 (2,3) - Claps on the ends of these sliders.
00:11:546 (4) - Clap for consistency with the pattern.
In my opinion, this difficulty needs some work with hitsounds and spacing.

[Normal]

00:55:172 (5) - Make this a bit closer to (4).
01:28:527 (1) - This note seems really odd to be there. It's hitsound sounds loud and weird.

[MoonShade's Hard]

Seems nice.

[MM's Taiko Poni]

00:57:436 (156) - Unsnapped slider end.

[Insane]

Fine.

double posting because I can! here's a really easy hard difficulty for those who want one.

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [Jacob's Hard].osu

hi~
from modreqs


[General]
why there's two .osb files? D:


[MM's Taiko Pony]
00:57:436 (156) - Unsnapped slider (end). i can't mod taiko \:D/

[Normal]
00:02:808 (5) - nazi: end point 1grid left + 1 grid down
00:38:716 (1,1) - why 2 new combos? ~_~
00:45:225 (6) - new combo?
00:59:659 (3) - i guess it's okay to curve it somehow
01:08:149 (1,1) - why new combo? ～＿～

[MoonShade's Hard]
00:01:545 (1) - delete new combo?
00:07:301 (1) - move new combo to 2
00:07:301 (1,6) - nazi mod: stack them
00:22:867 (7,1) - a bit covered by hp bar ～＿～
00:48:338 (2) - nazi: x464 y96

[Insane]
00:16:074 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe make it symmetrical?
00:45:508 (5) - why don't you make it symmetrical with (2)?
01:01:923 (10) - nazi mod: x344 y240

~~~

i can't find anything wrong :3

ofc, i'm noob D:

[General]
-- I suggest adding a kiai time starting at 00:30:225... I know it's not the most dramatic or intense song in the world but it would totally fit. If you do decide to do that and then end it at 00:48:338. Also, start and end a kiai at 00:59:659 and 01:15:539 respectively.

[Insane]
00:27:678 (11) - Definitely consider adding a note here or else the two streamy patterns don't flow well together. It feels empty. If you're concerned with it being too difficult (because they're already spread apart quite far in the first place), a 1/2-beat slider at 00:27:395 (10) may work well.

01:04:187 (3) - This is light suggestion but if you shorten the slider by 1/4ths and add a note at 01:04:753 (4) I feel that it would definitely compliment both the vocals and beat. Also, it would sound fucking amazing. Repeat the process at 01:05:319 (6) if you decide to go with this.

01:25:697 (4) - Add a whistle here for consistency. As you can see, you added one on the third white tick of every stanza starting at 01:20:037 (1). Do the same at 01:27:961 (2).

[MM's Taiko Poni]
-- Follow my kiai suggestion if you're going to use them. It doesn't make sense to have kiai on one chorus and to not have one on the next.

00:35:178 (93) - Add a don here because you've been spacing notes 3/4ths away after each downbeat since the kiai starded.

00:57:436 (158) - I'd just get rid of this slider entirely due to the new timing section at 00:59:093. There's no way to snap it properly. Instead, why don't you do something like this to add build up for the incoming chorus: http://puu.sh/rFNO (take note of the note added at 00:59:376)

01:04:611 (183) - Just like before, add a don here for consistency and such.

01:11:404 (209) - ^

[MoonShade's Hard]
-- Use AR6. AR7 straight up doesn't fit considering the difficulty of the map.

00:18:904 (3,4) - The beat placement is backwards here. You're having the slider end on a heavier beat than it originally started on. All you need to do is switch them around and make sure to change the hitsounds.

[Normal]
01:03:904 (2) - Add a hit circle here to follow the vocal line.

01:04:187 (1,2) - Disregarding the confusing spacing, a slider replacing these two hit circles would compliment the vocals better. ("Like two PEEEEEEEEEAS in a pot")

01:06:168 (4) - Add a hit circle here for the same reason as above -- to follow the vocal line. It doesn't make much sense for you not to keep a consistent beat here.

01:07:017 (3) - ^^^^ I'd suggest making a 1/2-beat slider here for the sake of making it not very difficult.

01:10:414 (4,5) - Just like the two notes at 01:04:187 (1,2), make these into a slider to better fit the vocals.

[Twilight's Easy]
-- The claps are too loud and do not fit at all. Remove them.

ok get it bubbled after this

thanks for everyone modding this and what not

-Bakari- wrote:

hi~

[MoonShade's Hard]
00:01:545 (1) - delete new combo?
00:07:301 (1) - move new combo to 2
00:07:301 (1,6) - nazi mod: stack them
00:22:867 (7,1) - a bit covered by hp bar ～＿～
00:48:338 (2) - nazi: x464 y96

Got everything corrected, thank you

Sync wrote:

[MoonShade's Hard]
-- Use AR6. AR7 straight up doesn't fit considering the difficulty of the map. ~ guess you're right, AR6 feels better imo too. Corrected.

00:18:904 (3,4) - The beat placement is backwards here. You're having the slider end on a heavier beat than it originally started on. All you need to do is switch them around and make sure to change the hitsounds. ~ changed

Thank you :3

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [MoonShade's Hard].osu

Sync wrote:

[General]

[Twilight's Easy]
-- The claps are too loud and do not fit at all. Remove them. to ztrot: Have you removed them o.o?

ok get it bubbled after this yay

also moved 2 notes at the beginning

Download: Daniel Ingram - B.B.B.F.F (ztrot) [Twilight's Easy].osu

It is looking great! Hope it gets ranked and you make more pony beatmaps!

Just posting to let you know I won't be around for awhile so don't be shocked if this graves

iAMPhiLL wrote:

It is looking great! Hope it gets ranked and you make more pony beatmaps!

+1