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OtoKaze & Hafuka - Snow Campus [Taiko|Osu]

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Topic Starter
Kokatsu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2012 at 22:36:24

Artist: OtoKaze & Hafuka
Title: Snow Campus
Tags: Sound of North Stefan TheNutritiousGuy DarkDunskin Saten Saten-San
BPM: 196
Filesize: 3212kb
Play Time: 01:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dunskin's Taiko Oni (4,83 stars, 623 notes)
  2. Hard (4,98 stars, 303 notes)
  3. Saten's Easy (2,23 stars, 106 notes)
  4. Stefan's Normal (3,76 stars, 147 notes)
Download: OtoKaze & Hafuka - Snow Campus
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This beatmap is meant to be played with the Storyboard active, please do not disable Storyboard for full game experience!

Last fullsubmit: 18/10/2012!

Mapset:
Easy by Saten
Normal by Stefan
Hard
Taiko Oni by DarkDunskin

This .mp3 is a Short Version of the song!

Random credits:
Thanks to vipto for the high-quality .mp3!
Thanks to Keksi for the awesome BG!
Thanks to grumd for his general help about mapping/pattering, you helped me out a lot understanding mapping better!
STBlack_old
Yes! good map.
waiting for more diffs...
I just have 2 questions
1 - why is there are two .mp3 files ?
2 - 00:57:588 maybe a little weird distance change ( but maybe it's ok for Insane) idk

Good luck anyway
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

STBlack wrote:

Yes! good map.
waiting for more diffs...
I just have 2 questions
1 - why is there are two .mp3 files ? Silly me! Forgot to delete the one .mp3, thanks~
2 - 00:57:588 maybe a little weird distance change ( but maybe it's ok for Insane) idk This is intended for two reasons: first of all, it's really, REALLY hard to play at 2x velo with 1.0 distancesnap the whole time and second i like that pattern :3

Good luck anyway
DarkDunskin
Okay here it is, your requested Taiko diff~

Taiko Oni


Good luck~
Stefan
vipto
i so lazy
GamerX4life
my mod:

[TNG's Standard]
  1. 00:12:359 (1,2) slider instead and this pattern: http://puu.sh/EfKN
  2. 00:27:052 (4) ugly slider. perhaps this:
    352,60,27052,2,0,B|257:22|144:95|93:218|146:305,1,400
    (and fix spacing)
  3. 01:11:746 the red sliderpoint to x:372 y:244
  4. 01:40:216 add circle instead and put (1) to 01:40:522 / 01:42:665 and 01:42:971 add circle or a slider
[Hyper]
  1. 00:09:910 Ich red ab jetzt mal deutsch: Ich finde das diese Slider alle komische Proportionen haben (ich weiß nicht ob das beabsichtigt war aber hier mal ein Slider mit besseren (in meiner Sicht):
    320,60,9910,54,0,B|384:12|451:55,1,140,0|0
    (falls dus änderst solltest du selbstverständlich auch die anderen anpassen
  2. 01:13:124 zieh (8) zu diesem Zeitpunkt und lass ihn einmal mehr Repeaten
  3. 01:19:246 (2) es flowt besser wenn man den weglässt
  4. 01:38:685 probier mal das hier (achsensymmetrisch):
    76,132,98685,1,2
    192,56,98991,1,2
    256,88,99144,1,0
    320,56,99297,1,0
    436,132,99603,2,0,B|424:204|436:276,1,140,2|2
    300,304,100216,1,2
    256,360,100369,1,0
    212,304,100522,1,0
    76,272,100828,70,0,B|100:304|56:304|80:336,2,70,0|0|2
    60,204,101287,1,0
    96,144,101440,1,2
[Another]
  1. 00:24:910 (1-6) X_X Find ich sehr heftig für ranked oder soll die Diff approved werden?
  2. 00:49:093 bei diesem Punkt in der Melodie würde ein Slider (00:49:093 bis 00:49:246 an diesem Punkt) immer gut passen ich werde dir mal einige Stellen zeigen:
  3. 00:51:542 Slider
  4. 00:53:991 Slider
  5. 01:01:338 Slider
  6. 01:03:787 Slider
  7. 01:16:032 Slider
  8. 01:23:379 Slider
  9. 01:28:277 Slider
  10. 01:30:726 Slider
  11. 01:33:175 Slider
  12. 01:35:624 Slider
  13. Ich als du würde ein paar von denen einfügen, da die map sonst sehr Circlelastig ist
  14. Ansonsten eine gelungene Diff
Viel Glück!
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

GamerX4life wrote:

my mod:

[Hyper]
  1. 00:09:910 Ich red ab jetzt mal deutsch: Ich finde das diese Slider alle komische Proportionen haben (ich weiß nicht ob das beabsichtigt war aber hier mal ein Slider mit besseren (in meiner Sicht): Ja, war beabsichtigt ;)
    320,60,9910,54,0,B|384:12|451:55,1,140,0|0
    (falls dus änderst solltest du selbstverständlich auch die anderen anpassen
  2. 01:13:124 zieh (8) zu diesem Zeitpunkt und lass ihn einmal mehr Repeaten Mir gefällt es besser, wie es atm ist, sorry :/
  3. 01:19:246 (2) es flowt besser wenn man den weglässt Mhm, stimmt :D
  4. 01:38:685 probier mal das hier (achsensymmetrisch): Intended, sorry :/
    76,132,98685,1,2
    192,56,98991,1,2
    256,88,99144,1,0
    320,56,99297,1,0
    436,132,99603,2,0,B|424:204|436:276,1,140,2|2
    300,304,100216,1,2
    256,360,100369,1,0
    212,304,100522,1,0
    76,272,100828,70,0,B|100:304|56:304|80:336,2,70,0|0|2
    60,204,101287,1,0
    96,144,101440,1,2
[Another]
  1. 00:24:910 (1-6) X_X Find ich sehr heftig für ranked oder soll die Diff approved werden? Die sind 1/1 auseinander, das ist vollkommen ok D: ein paar jumps darf man ja wohl haben, oder?
  2. 00:49:093 bei diesem Punkt in der Melodie würde ein Slider (00:49:093 bis 00:49:246 an diesem Punkt) immer gut passen ich werde dir mal einige Stellen zeigen:
  3. 00:51:542 Slider
  4. 00:53:991 Slider
  5. 01:01:338 Slider
  6. 01:03:787 Slider
  7. 01:16:032 Slider
  8. 01:23:379 Slider
  9. 01:28:277 Slider
  10. 01:30:726 Slider
  11. 01:33:175 Slider
  12. 01:35:624 Slider
  13. Ich als du würde ein paar von denen einfügen, da die map sonst sehr Circlelastig ist Tut mir Leid, aber die ist absichtlich sehr Circlelastig und das soll auch so bleiben :x
  14. Ansonsten eine gelungene Diff
Viel Glück!
Tut mir Leid, dass ich fast nichts umgesetzt habe, deine Vorschläge waren an sich nicht schlecht, nur die meisten Pattern sind wirklich beabsichtigt so eingesetzt worden :)

Trotzdem Danke :D
cRyo[iceeicee]
Hi~ :)
[General]
You got inconsistency in AudioLeadIn, it must be same in every diff (osu standart diff)
Thumbs file in SB folder, im not sure its usable...so please remove it...
Also some MAT's may ask you to reduce size of ur BG, because its 5 times larger than ussual
Rankable mapset must have diff below 3 stars (3.2 maximum) your easiest diff has 3.66 which is not suitable for ranking criteria
I suggest you to, either add some 3< stars [Easy] diff, or reduce star rating in [TNG's Standard] diff

[Another]
01:17:103 (4) - this spacing a bit strange, why not move it somewhere else o.o? http://puu.sh/Eh12 i think jump on stacked notes fit better
01:22:154 (1,2,3,4) - same here http://puu.sh/Eh1M
01:22:767 (1,2,3,4) - u can make symetry jumps here http://puu.sh/Eh2l
01:31:797 (4,1) - not sure, but i prefer not to stack this notes ==, its fits better if u stacked it with 01:31:644 (3) -
01:33:328 (2) - i prefer to stack this with 01:33:175 (1) -

[TNG's Standard]
01:40:216 (2) - this is spacing error, it must be changed o.o!

Both hard and normal diff very well made, but insane still needs some improvement especially from moders-players
Im not player so i cant suggest to much sry~

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:

Hi~ :)
[General]
You got inconsistency in AudioLeadIn, it must be same in every diff (osu standart diff) The only diff which got an other Lead-in is the taiko, because it starts earlier than the standarddiffs, there is no need to add a lead-in for the standard-diffs.
Thumbs file in SB folder, im not sure its usable...so please remove it...
There must not be any unused files in the map's folder except for the map's .osb file (since they sometimes get added even if the map doesn't have a storyboard) and storyboard .thumb files (since they are automatically created in image directories). Unused files add extra file size which is unnecessary.

Also some MAT's may ask you to reduce size of ur BG, because its 5 times larger than ussual I don't see a reason to use a worse-quality background if you can have one with high-quality.
Rankable mapset must have diff below 3 stars (3.2 maximum) your easiest diff has 3.66 which is not suitable for ranking criteria
I suggest you to, either add some 3< stars [Easy] diff, or reduce star rating in [TNG's Standard] diff We'll reduce the rating of TNG's diff ;3

[Another]
01:17:103 (4) - this spacing a bit strange, why not move it somewhere else o.o? http://puu.sh/Eh12 i think jump on stacked notes fit better This is due to the fact that 1-4 in that combo are a copy and flip of the combo b4, I would ruin symmetry, which this diff is about. the following 1 is in the center of the map to give a nice startingpoint for the following square jump. This will stay the way it is, sorry :/
01:22:154 (1,2,3,4) - same here http://puu.sh/Eh1M Uhm..I actually like it the way it is, but if someone else points it out, too, I will change it, thanks for mentioning :)
01:22:767 (1,2,3,4) - u can make symetry jumps here http://puu.sh/Eh2l This will be changed if the one mentioned above will be mentioned another time xD
01:31:797 (4,1) - not sure, but i prefer not to stack this notes ==, its fits better if u stacked it with 01:31:644 (3) - Yea, this looks good :)
01:33:328 (2) - i prefer to stack this with 01:33:175 (1) - Yes, done :)

Both hard and normal diff very well made, but insane still needs some improvement especially from moders-players
Im not player so i cant suggest to much sry~

Good luck~
Thanks anyways :3
Atema
Hello !
Here is my mod, i will only make suggestions, feel free to follow them or not ! :)

General

- Your taiko diff starts before the others diff and finishes before them, and I don't think this is rankable
- The Standard diff finishes after the other diffs, which not really good according to the ranking guidelines
- You must have a diff less than 3 stars so your mapset can get ranked, but i've read that you wanna reduce the standard one so I guess it will be ok :)
- This is a personal opinion, but I prefer when combo colors are the same in all diff :) ( for exemple, starting from here 01:28:277 - in standard diff is not the same colours as in the others diffs)

TNG'S Standard

01:23:379 (1) - Remove NC ?
01:41:134 (1) - Spacing ? (as it's your easiest diff )

Hyper

- Maybe should you change the name to "Hard" or something, so people wouldn't thin that there is no Hard diff and only 2 insanes, as it is a 5 stars diff ?

00:16:950 (1) - Remove NC and put it here 00:17:563 (1) - ? Globally I do not really understand when you have a new combo for 1 or 2 circles as there's no true reason (like 00:24:450 (1) - here for exemple)
01:06:236 (1) - Remove NC and put it in the next circle ?

Another

Couldn't fine anything wrong :)


Very nice mapset, good luck ! :)
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
M4M~


Another

  1. it's like masterpiece + luv letter lol
  2. 00:40:522 (1,2,3) - it's not stacked well in play mode...
  3. 00:49:093 (1) - move to (132,336) ?
  4. 01:25:523 (3,4) - ctrl+r..?
  5. that's all orz
Hyper

  1. 00:09:910 (1,2,3,4) - maybe s:c2 clap on slider ends orz
  2. 00:12:359 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  3. 00:28:889 (1) - like this shape http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355579
  4. 00:44:195 (7) - here ?
  5. 01:46:338 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - make it more beautiful ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355582
Normal

  1. 00:33:175 (3,1) - this is too near the reverse arrow, may confuse beginners
that's all

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

Atema wrote:

Hello !
Here is my mod, i will only make suggestions, feel free to follow them or not ! :)

General

- Your taiko diff starts before the others diff and finishes before them, and I don't think this is rankable The Taiko may break the start/end of the other diffs, this is fine (i guess)
- The Standard diff finishes after the other diffs, which not really good according to the ranking guidelines working on that ;3
- You must have a diff less than 3 stars so your mapset can get ranked, but i've read that you wanna reduce the standard one so I guess it will be ok :) yea, wip :p
- This is a personal opinion, but I prefer when combo colors are the same in all diff :) ( for exemple, starting from here 01:28:277 - in standard diff is not the same colours as in the others diffs) they actually are the same in everys diff, just not used at the same times. IMO this also is a way to differ each difficulty from another, this will stay the way it is

Hyper

- Maybe should you change the name to "Hard" or something, so people wouldn't thin that there is no Hard diff and only 2 insanes, as it is a 5 stars diff ? Since "Hypers" are normally easier to play than "Anothers", Hyper is something like "Hard/Hard" and it would break the consistence from Standard/Hyper/Another, which is used in alot of mapsets. I will change it however, if there are too many complainments

00:16:950 (1) - Remove NC and put it here 00:17:563 (1) - ? Globally I do not really understand when you have a new combo for 1 or 2 circles as there's no true reason (like 00:24:450 (1) - here for exemple) This is made somewhat similar to the style I used in the "Another" diff to pronounce the music in the background by only using NC in the "intro" on the high-pitch notes. NC normally should be used when there is a change in the music and I guess this IS a place where it happens :/
01:06:236 (1) - Remove NC and put it in the next circle ? Same as above, the music changes here (i also swap back to soft samples) and it would be more irritateing if the NC would be on the next note.

Another

Couldn't fine anything wrong :)


Very nice mapset, good luck ! :)
Sorry for not following your mod, but I rejected your suggestions because of personal reasons, you still get ur KDS, M4M is wip.

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

M4M~


Another

  1. it's like masterpiece + luv letter lol Is that good or bad? D: I focused on a very straight/symmetrical layout here and looked a bit at some maps from my fav. mappers so there might be a small influence~
  2. 00:40:522 (1,2,3) - it's not stacked well in play mode... Tell me how to fix it and i'll fix it.
  3. 00:49:093 (1) - move to (132,336) ? Yea, messed it up ><
  4. 01:25:523 (3,4) - ctrl+r..? Hmm, i pref. the way it is atm..
  5. that's all orz
Hyper

  1. 00:09:910 (1,2,3,4) - maybe s:c2 clap on slider ends orz o__O sorry, I highly dislike that sound
  2. 00:12:359 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
  3. 00:28:889 (1) - like this shape http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355579 Ok :) Next time give waypoint x|y, easier to reconstruct :x
  4. 00:44:195 (7) - here ? Here what? lol
  5. 01:46:338 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - make it more beautiful ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355582 Changed, but used other shapeing~

that's all

Good luck~
Thanks for mods :)
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
Tell me how to fix it and i'll fix it.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355987 manually stack this, move 1 grid down and 1 grid right in grid level 4

also, hyper diff "here" missed img: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355989

don't give kd for this post lol

it's like masterpiece + luv letter lol Is that good or bad?
good, of course :3
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

Tell me how to fix it and i'll fix it.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355987 manually stack this, move 1 grid down and 1 grid right in grid level 4 Aye, thanks

also, hyper diff "here" missed img: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/355989 Oh, yea, won't do that anyways, sorry :o

don't give kd for this post lol I'm not retarded :P

it's like masterpiece + luv letter lol Is that good or bad?
good, of course :3 Yay ^__^
Thanks for fast fix :P
Jenny
Do I remember right I did offset on this before upload? *Just wondering, my memory is lacking these days ;_;
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

Jenny wrote:

Do I remember right I did offset on this before upload? *Just wondering, my memory is lacking these days ;_;
You did, but I cropped the .mp3, resulting in an other offset, which hasn't been done by you. ;_;
Jenny
Fu, chance of free KD gone \:D/
Topic Starter
Kokatsu

Jenny wrote:

Fu, chance of free KD gone \:D/
Wouldn've given you KDS for that anyways.
Stefan

GamerX4life wrote:

my mod:

[TNG's Standard]
  1. 00:12:359 (1,2) slider instead and this pattern: http://puu.sh/EfKN I don't like the idea, sorry.
  2. 00:27:052 (4) ugly slider. perhaps this: Fixed.
    352,60,27052,2,0,B|257:22|144:95|93:218|146:305,1,400
    (and fix spacing)
  3. 01:11:746 the red sliderpoint to x:372 y:244 Fixed.
  4. 01:40:216 add circle instead and put (1) to 01:40:522 / 01:42:665 and 01:42:971 add circle or a slider Nah, I don't like it so.

Atema wrote:

TNG'S Standard

01:23:379 (1) - Remove NC ? Nope, would look too long.
01:41:134 (1) - Spacing ? (as it's your easiest diff ) It is the easiest diff, but not always neccessary to hold instant the Spacing.

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

Normal

  1. 00:33:175 (3,1) - this is too near the reverse arrow, may confuse beginners I don't see the problem about the reverse Arrow.
Thanks for your Mods!
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