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The 08 team_Bourdon
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 21 September 2012 at 05:07:57

Artist: Usher
Title: Scream
Tags: Roddie hybrid579 Collab Looking 4 Myself Terry Raymond Single Max Martin Shellback
BPM: 128
Filesize: 5881kb
Play Time: 03:50
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab (4.97 stars, 672 notes)
  2. Easy (1.16 stars, 160 notes)
  3. Normal (3.53 stars, 269 notes)
Download: Usher - Scream
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yea, osu! I wanna hear you scream! ヾ(≥▽≤)ノ

Easy by me
Normal by me
Collab by me & Roddie
Stefan
How I miss the old Songs by Usher.. ._.

[General]
- Fix the Size of your BG.
- This is more or less a troll suggestion, but change the Name of your .osb-File (It is named as "unknown - Scream (The 08 team_Bourdon)"
- You don't mind if you add the Album of this Song, since it would be wrong to set it as source?

[Easy]
03:28:811 (2) - The Whistle does not fit anymore with the voice and should be removed.
03:32:093 (4) - How about to set NC?

Excellent work at Easy!

[Normal]
Nothing wrong with it.

[Collab]
The "Roodie" suddenly appears at the begin. I think you have to fix this.
00:18:264 (1) - Remove NC?
00:18:733 (2) - If you accept the suggestion above, NC here?

Stop being so awesome. D:
Sorry that I could not find many things, but the Mapset is almost perfect. Here's a Star for the Beginning.
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

TheNutritiousGuy wrote:

How I miss the old Songs by Usher.. ._.

[General]
- Fix the Size of your BG. //oppss... FIXED.
- This is more or less a troll suggestion, but change the Name of your .osb-File (It is named as "unknown - Scream (The 08 team_Bourdon)"//FIXED.
- You don't mind if you add the Album of this Song, since it would be wrong to set it as source? //Hold on.

[Easy]
03:28:811 (2) - The Whistle does not fit anymore with the voice and should be removed. // Removed.
03:32:093 (4) - How about to set NC? // Added.

Excellent work at Easy! // Thank you >w<

[Normal]
Nothing wrong with it.

[Collab]
The "Roddie" suddenly appears at the begin. I think you have to fix this. FIXED.
00:18:264 (1) - Remove NC? // Hold on.
00:18:733 (2) - If you accept the suggestion above, NC here? // Hold on.

Stop being so awesome. D:
Sorry that I could not find many things, but the Mapset is almost perfect. Here's a Star for the Beginning.//Thanks for your praise and your starrrrr~~ . :3
Thank you very much, Nutritious~ :D
Poggo
Hi ^.^


Collab

00:12:171 -here better put volume 50%
00:12:639 - 40%
00:15:218 - 60%
01:02:561(1,2) - maybe make so http://puu.sh/FTPQ look better
01:14:749(5) - this slider better replace on 2 short sliders http://puu.sh/FTQY
01:21:077 - add note here and on next blue tick
01:24:593(2,3) - make this sliders identical http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361532
01:49:436 - add clap here
01:51:311 - ^
01:54:358(1,2) - make this sliders identical
02:07:718(5) - make this slider more symmetric http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361534
02:24:124(6) - this slider make so http://puu.sh/FTZ7 looks better
02:35:843(11,1) - make this so http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361537 that the ends didn't concern each other
03:52:718(1,2,1,2) - oh i think it not need here remove this >.<

Normal

00:02:327 - remove 1 repeat and add slider 00:03:382 - 00:03:616 it's better follow for music
00:44:280 - remove NC here and put on next slider
00:53:655 - prolong this slired to white tick
01:00:218(1) - make this slider more symmetric http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361545
02:04:905 - prolong this slired to white tick
02:08:655 - ^
02:12:405 - ^
02:14:749 - add note here
02:38:421(2,3) - stack better
03:45:686(7,8) - better replace on slider it's easier and better follow the music
03:52:718 - better end spinner here

Easy

not bad~~ sorry i very want sleep ^.^'

good luck :P :P :P
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

Katty Pie wrote:

Hi ^.^


Collab

00:12:171 -here better put volume 50% // added.
00:12:639 - 40% //added.
00:15:218 - 60% //added.
01:02:561(1,2) - maybe make so http://puu.sh/FTPQ look better // yes.
01:14:749(5) - this slider better replace on 2 short sliders http://puu.sh/FTQY // Hmm... No~
01:21:077 - add note here and on next blue tick // Hmm... No~
01:24:593(2,3) - make this sliders identical http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361532 // yes.
01:49:436 - add clap here // added.
01:51:311 - ^ // added.
01:54:358(1,2) - make this sliders identical // yes.
02:07:718(5) - make this slider more symmetric http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361534 // yes.
02:24:124(6) - this slider make so http://puu.sh/FTZ7 looks better// yes.
02:35:843(11,1) - make this so http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361537 that the ends didn't concern each other // yes. But i just move upward.
03:52:718(1,2,1,2) - oh i think it not need here remove this >.< // Hold on.

Normal

00:02:327 - remove 1 repeat and add slider 00:03:382 - 00:03:616 it's better follow for music No. I feel this slider is hard a bit on normal diff.
00:44:280 - remove NC here and put on next slider // Fixed.
00:53:655 - prolong this slired to white tick // Fixed.
01:00:218(1) - make this slider more symmetric http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/361545 // Fixed.
02:04:905 - prolong this slired to white tick // Fixed.
02:08:655 - ^ // Fixed.
02:12:405 - ^ // Fixed.
02:14:749 - add note here // added.
02:38:421(2,3) - stack better // Fixed.
03:45:686(7,8) - better replace on slider it's easier and better follow the music // Fixed.
03:52:718 - better end spinner here //Hold on.

Easy

not bad~~ sorry i very want sleep ^.^' //Nvm xD

good luck :P :P :P
Thank you very much!! >.<
rust45
[Tags]
I feel like you could add more tags than just Roddie. Maybe the album this song came from?

[Kiai]
I'm not usually fond of just using the fountains and I think kiai suits the chorus pretty well. It would also look sweet with the flashing names during the collab map.

[Easy]
Fine, it's reeeally easy, but it's not really a problem, better having a really easy easy than a hard easy. One thing though.
01:33:968 - It seems more natural if you just let the break start the way it normally would. Like this, it feels like it's going into the break in the middle of a section, if you put it back to normal, it feels like the break starts at the start of the section.

[Normal]
Do the circles really have to be so big? If you make them one size smaller it makes more sense and makes some of the many overlaps in this map look better.
01:33:968 - Same as easy.

[Collab]
Really good map, no real complaints and I love the outro.

You get a star for this, great job.
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

rust45 wrote:

[Tags]
I feel like you could add more tags than just Roddie. Maybe the album this song came from? // added for the album name.

[Kiai]
I'm not usually fond of just using the fountains and I think kiai suits the chorus pretty well. It would also look sweet with the flashing names during the collab map. // Fixed.

[Easy]
Fine, it's reeeally easy, but it's not really a problem, better having a really easy easy than a hard easy. One thing though.
01:33:968 - It seems more natural if you just let the break start the way it normally would. Like this, it feels like it's going into the break in the middle of a section, if you put it back to normal, it feels like the break starts at the start of the section. // Hmm... I'll hold on this.

[Normal]
Do the circles really have to be so big? If you make them one size smaller it makes more sense and makes some of the many overlaps in this map look better. //Hmm.. no, i think the larger size is better than small size.
01:33:968 - Same as easy. // Hmm... I'll hold on this.

[Collab]
Really good map, no real complaints and I love the outro.

You get a star for this, great job.
Thank you so much! rust 8-)
Darcsol
Mod4Mod from #modreqs


[Storyboard]
Personally I dislike flashing names in the Collab difficulty. It gives an unnecessary distraction and attention to the players playing the song. While it maybe minimal, it does effect the total integrity of the difficulty. I recommend either only to include effects at specific parts of the choruses or remove them all. I hope you understand where I'm going for. After all, they are merely names to distinguish who's part it is in the Collab. It doesn't have to be extravagant.

[General]
- I also feel like you could add more tags. Maybe add Usher's full name? Or include that the song is a single for the album? :?
- (Optional) Replace the BG for something more relating to the song and/or Usher?
- I also personally dislike kiai times just for the fountains. Kiai times makes perfect sense with this song.

[Easy]
Seems fine. Bit too easy though...

[Normal]
03:11:468 (1) Having 2 spinners at that length feels repressive, especially when it's right before the final chorus. Remove the first spinner and add beats before the second spinner (similar to what's done in the Collab).

[Collab]
Well done collab. Really fun. Can't find anything fix or suggest.


Otherwise it is a well done map. The storyboard is only the nitpick-y thing about it but that's just me. Have a star~
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

Darcsol wrote:

Mod4Mod from #modreqs


[Storyboard]
Personally I dislike flashing names in the Collab difficulty. It gives an unnecessary distraction and attention to the players playing the song. While it maybe minimal, it does effect the total integrity of the difficulty. I recommend either only to include effects at specific parts of the choruses or remove them all. I hope you understand where I'm going for. After all, they are merely names to distinguish who's part it is in the Collab. It doesn't have to be extravagant. //I just want to make it more pretty... hmm... hold on this problem a moment.

[General]
- I also feel like you could add more tags. Maybe add Usher's full name? Or include that the song is a single for the album? :? // added. I have no idea to add other tag, please give me more i should add in.
- (Optional) Replace the BG for something more relating to the song and/or Usher? // Hold on.
- I also personally dislike kiai times just for the fountains. Kiai times makes perfect sense with this song. I've added a short kiai...

[Easy]
Seems fine. Bit too easy though...

[Normal]
03:11:468 (1) Having 2 spinners at that length feels repressive, especially when it's right before the final chorus. Remove the first spinner and add beats before the second spinner (similar to what's done in the Collab). //yup. changed.

[Collab]
Well done collab. Really fun. Can't find anything fix or suggest.


Otherwise it is a well done map. The storyboard is only the nitpick-y thing about it but that's just me. Have a star~
Thanks your mod and your star!~ Darcsol :D
riffy
[General]
tags: collab? put hybrid579 in tags. you know, it's Roddie's previous username :3
Inconsistency in Kiai Times
SV gap o.o make hard D:

[Collab]
01:16:624 (6) - end point: 2 grid left to improve your blanket slider @ Roddie
01:29:749 (8) - whistle? @ Roddie
01:37:952 (5) - new combo? @ Bourdon
01:50:139 (7) - ^ for vocals @ Bourdon
02:48:499 (8) - slider here? @ Bourdon

[Normal]
00:55:061 (5) - whistle in the end?
02:08:655 (3) - make better blanket-slider for (4)? http://puu.sh/GLCi
03:20:374 (1) - whistle? (louder!)

[Easy]
00:53:655 (1) - x220 y80
01:08:186 (3) - if beginners will miss (1) hitburst (miss) will cover (3)'s start!
01:15:218 (1) - new players can be a bit confused.
01:52:718 (4) - x256 y232

~~~~~~~~~~

SCREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAM, BABY!
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

-Bakari- wrote:

[General]
tags: collab? put hybrid579 in tags. you know, it's Roddie's previous username :3 //added.
Inconsistency in Kiai Times //Fixed.
SV gap o.o make hard D: >.<

[Collab]
01:16:624 (6) - end point: 2 grid left to improve your blanket slider @ Roddie
01:29:749 (8) - whistle? @ Roddie
01:37:952 (5) - new combo? @ Bourdon // yes.
01:50:139 (7) - ^ for vocals @ Bourdon // yes.
02:48:499 (8) - slider here? @ Bourdon // yes.

[Normal]
00:55:061 (5) - whistle in the end? // yes.
02:08:655 (3) - make better blanket-slider for (4)? http://puu.sh/GLCi // yes.
03:20:374 (1) - whistle? (louder!) // yes.

[Easy]
00:53:655 (1) - x220 y80 // yes.
01:08:186 (3) - if beginners will miss (1) hitburst (miss) will cover (3)'s start! //fixed.
01:15:218 (1) - new players can be a bit confused. //fixed.
01:52:718 (4) - x256 y232 // yes.

~~~~~~~~~~

SCREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAM, BABY! woooooooooooooooowwwwww~~~
Thank you bakariiiiiiii >w</
Darcsol

The 08 team_Bourdon wrote:

// added. I have no idea to add other tag, please give me more i should add in.
I thought I gave a subtle hint. :? Add "single" to tags.

The 08 team_Bourdon wrote:

I've added a short kiai...
I meant to say that using kiai times just for the fountains is a waste of potential. These type songs are perfect for it. Why kiai times can't be stretched throughout entire choruses like the final chorus?
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

Darcsol wrote:

The 08 team_Bourdon wrote:

// added. I have no idea to add other tag, please give me more i should add in.
I thought I gave a subtle hint. :? Add "single" to tags. // oppss.. my wrong. added.

The 08 team_Bourdon wrote:

I've added a short kiai...
I meant to say that using kiai times just for the fountains is a waste of potential. These type songs are perfect for it. Why kiai times can't be stretched throughout entire choruses like the final chorus? // okay. i changed it and it just not be a fountains again.
Thanks for explain :3
mancuso_JM_
Hi! Time to mod your map :P

[Easy:]

Settings:

--> I know that it's an Easy difficulty but the Approach Rate feels a bit low, would be better if you increase it by 1 Tick (AR+1)

• 00:02:796 (2): This Slider is not to funny to play because doesn't follow a significative thing in the song, especially in this Easy. To follow better the Rhythm you should make another thing. I look for a lot of varieties listening the music in 25%, and the best one that I could find it is if you move this Slider to 00:03:030 and this Slider should be in 1/2 (Finishing in 00:03:264) and after that add a Repetition (It's much better if you change that for a better playability, if you can find another idea better than mine it's Ok too :3)
• 00:06:546 (4): (^)
• 00:11:702 (3): In the middle of this Slider (After to the Repetition) the rhythm change, for this reason this can't be united because doesn't follow the Rhythm in all the aspects and this make a weird thing with the Rhythm. To follow better the Rhythm you should remove the Repetition and then add another Slider that Starts in 00:13:577 and finish in 00:14:749. You can try something like that to don't have any kind of Spacing Problem:
SPOILER

180,120,11702,2,0,B|128:66|67:55|7:125|10:184|45:230|97:240,1,300
52,332,13577,2,0,B|88:404|177:381|221:301|158:247,1,250
260,256,15218,5,2
• 00:22:718 (1,2): In this case is better the consistent than the Symetry. It's better if you keep consistency between the Sliders (2,3) following the Vocal. For this reason I suggest you to remove the Note (1) and then move the Slider (2) to here. Works better in my opinion.
• 00:26:468 (3): To Remark the Vocal (This 'uhh') it's better if you add a Whistle on the Reverse Arrow as you did it at the beginning
• 00:44:749 (1): In the music appear a sound like a Clap hitsound for this reason sounds preety fine if you add a Clap in this note to emphatisize this sound in the music
• 00:51:311 (3): I prefer to do another thing to follow better the rhythm, I think that this Slider end on a Red Tick doesn't work at all. For this reason it's better if you do 2 Sliders in 1/1. The first one (3) starts on 00:51:311 and finish in 00:51:780 and the second one (4) starts on 00:52:249 and finish in 00:52:718.

• 00:59:632 (T): To be consistent with Normal diff. (where sounds better) add an Inherited Timing Point here with 40% in Audio (Do that if you don't follow the next suggestion)
• 00:59:983 (1,1): The Slider is too Close to the Spinner to be on an Easy difficulty, this is difficult to New Players, in general is difficult to make the spin and more if you are thinking on a Slider then. Maybe you can reduce the lenght of the Spinner to make this pattern easier
• 01:15:218 (1): (NAZI)- This Slider can be better if you curved it a bit more :P
• 02:03:499 (1): A Clap fit perfectly here, if you listen the music appear a sound like a Clap here too.
• 02:18:733 (1,1): Same as 00:59:983
• 02:47:561 (4): I think that you have to reduce this Combo a bit because is a bit long to be in this difficulty. Following the Voice, here is the better place to add a New Combo
• 03:00:452 (1): Add a Clap at the end, same reason as 02:03:499
• 03:03:030 (5): And here add a Clap at the beginning of this Slider

[Normal:]

• 00:03:968 (1): Looking your previous pattern, this Slider in 1/1 doesn't work at all, sounds empty at the hour to play the map. I think that you should follow the same consistence as before, to make that Reduce this Slider by 1/4 and then add a note in 00:05:022 (on a blue tick), can be a bit difficult because appear a Note on a blue tick but looking the difficulty in this beginning it's Ok in my opinion
• 00:49:905 (3): I personally don't like how to play this Whistle on Sliderbody for some reasons. First of all is inconsistent with the rest of the map because you never used this kind of things in the Whole of the map and then you don't have nothing to emphatisize with that, so this make the Whistle unnecesary. It's better if you remove it from here
• 01:12:405 (3): For consistency with all the 'uuhh', you should add a Whistle instead of a Clap on the end of this Slider. Also, on Collab you did that
• 01:25:061 (5): I'm preety sure that you forgot to add a Clap on the beginning of this Slider
• 01:27:874 (3): Add a Whistle at the beginning of this Slider (same reason as 01:12:405)
• 01:31:155 (2,3): The Reverse Arrow on these Sliders don't follow nothing in the music and for this reason sound bad. For this reason it's better if you Remove the Repetitions on each Sliders and make them in 1/1, here an Screenshoot to avoid any doubt:
• 01:55:330 (x): I think that work better with the Vocal if you add a Note here.
• 01:55:764 (1): The Whistle on the Sliderbody doesn't work fine here, would be better if you Remove it from here
• 02:12:405 (3): If you following the music properly, you have to add a Clap at the end of this Slider because appear something like a Clap in the song. For this reason, it's better if you emphatisize that
• 02:37:718 (1,2,3): In General, Slider Stacked (like that) don't make a good sense because don't look fine at all. Also, this kind of things are a bit difficult to 'Normal' Players. For that, this pattern would have a better flow if you unstack those Sliders
• 02:48:968 (1): For consistency with your other difficulties, you have to Remove this New Combo
• 03:24:593 (1,2,3): Same as 02:37:718
• 03:35:843 (1,2): This pattern in particular doesn't follow the music in any aspect, I could find a simple thing in 1/1, without any kind of weird thing that fit properly with the music. The Slider (1) have to start in 03:35:843 and finish in 03:36:780 and the Slider (2) starts on 03:37:249 and finish in 02:37:718, Here you have an Screenshoot.

[Collab:]

Bourdon:

• 01:33:733 (2): The Normal Whistle at the end of the Slider sound noisy, and doesn't fit at all with the music. You can fix that replacing the Normal sampleset to a Soft samplset, sounds much better in my opinion
• 01:39:827 (7): (NAZI)- Just for esthetic, because looks better, would be a good Idea if you Curve this Slider a bit like the previous Slider (6), maybe a Copy/Paste is a good idea. Try it, you will look that looks better and you don't have to do a lot of things after that (To be sincere you don't have to make nothing after to Curve the Slider :P)
• 01:42:874 (6): For consistency, you have to add a Whistle in this Note
• 01:55:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7): We have to consider that this difficulty is a Hard diff. in general is not recommended to have a Stream with more than 5 notes in this kind of difficulties. If you want you can keep that, but try to compress a bit this Stream making the distance smaller.
• 01:55:999 (7): This Note need a Clap, fit perfect with the music
• 02:03:499 (1): (^)
• 02:10:882 (x): In this Section you are following the Instrumental and the Vocal a lot. To continue with that and don't break the consistency, it's better if you add a Note here.
• 02:16:624 (9): I can percive a more reasonable Stop on here if you Replace the Slider to a Note in this position. Try to listen the music in 25%, I think that it's better
• 02:33:264 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1): As I explained before, this 7-plet should be compressed, making the distance between notes smaller
• 02:35:374 (8,9,10): Wait... A 3-plet here? There is nothing in the middle where is (9) to be remarked with a note, there is no Rhythm in the music, so this is consider as a overmap. Remove (9), is more benefit to the Rhythm.
• 02:48:499 (8): You are missing a Clap at the beginning of this Slider
• 03:52:718 (1,2,1): These Sliders are Silenced a lot, but anyways I can listen the end of them and they are very unnecesary to the music and sounds totally off-Rhythm. For this Reason it's better if you change these Sliders to 3 Notes on the White Ticks, sounds in the Music perfectly and don't make a bad sounds like the Sliders at the end.

Roddie:

• 00:04:319 (2): If you listen the music (Inclusive in 25% to be more sure), you don't have nothing here, and it's better to delete the Overmap because this kind of things make the difficulty much more difficult than Normal.
• 00:08:069 (1): (^)
• 00:11:350 (5): You can make a paused more remarked here, because if you listen the music the pause is there. To make that it's better if you change the Slider to a Note in this position
• 00:44:632 (x): A note, to be more consistent with the another 3-plets
• 00:44:749 (2): And you're missing a Clap here
• 00:45:686 (4): (^)
• 00:59:632 (T): I prefer to listen something in the Slider, there is a little sound in the music. For this reason, I think that you should increase the Volume to 40% (Like Normal diff.)
• 01:03:030 (2): This Clap sounds bad and doesn't follow the Pattern of Claps that you have in the mapset. It's better if you remove from here
• 01:05:608 (8,9): I prefer an antijump here, and I'll said you why, After that you have the jumps in 1/2 when he said 'uu' bla bla bla. This kind of things can be a bit confusive and you can remark this space in 1/1 with an antijump, is the better option in my opinion
• 01:18:382 (x): A Note to be consistent with your 3-plets
• 01:18:733 (5,1): You should make an antijump between these Notes too. (Same as 01:05:608)
• 01:25:061 (3): Add a Clap on the beginning of the Slider. Same reason as always :P

Well, That's All. The difficulties are preety fine but I don't like the gap of difficult between Normal and Collab. I think that it's preety big inclusive on the Score, try to checks out that, otherwhise the maps looks preety fine.
Star to show you my support and the Best of luck with this map, Bourdon! ;)
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

mancusojuanmattos wrote:

Hi! Time to mod your map :P

[Easy:]

Settings:

--> I know that it's an Easy difficulty but the Approach Rate feels a bit low, would be better if you increase it by 1 Tick (AR+1) //yes.

• 00:02:796 (2): This Slider is not to funny to play because doesn't follow a significative thing in the song, especially in this Easy. To follow better the Rhythm you should make another thing. I look for a lot of varieties listening the music in 25%, and the best one that I could find it is if you move this Slider to 00:03:030 and this Slider should be in 1/2 (Finishing in 00:03:264) and after that add a Repetition (It's much better if you change that for a better playability, if you can find another idea better than mine it's Ok too :3) //yes.
• 00:06:546 (4): (^) //yes.
• 00:11:702 (3): In the middle of this Slider (After to the Repetition) the rhythm change, for this reason this can't be united because doesn't follow the Rhythm in all the aspects and this make a weird thing with the Rhythm. To follow better the Rhythm you should remove the Repetition and then add another Slider that Starts in 00:13:577 and finish in 00:14:749. You can try something like that to don't have any kind of Spacing Problem:
SPOILER

180,120,11702,2,0,B|128:66|67:55|7:125|10:184|45:230|97:240,1,300
52,332,13577,2,0,B|88:404|177:381|221:301|158:247,1,250
260,256,15218,5,2
//yes.
• 00:22:718 (1,2): In this case is better the consistent than the Symetry. It's better if you keep consistency between the Sliders (2,3) following the Vocal. For this reason I suggest you to remove the Note (1) and then move the Slider (2) to here. Works better in my opinion. //Hmm.. I dont agree on this suggest.i prefer it like the old style :p
• 00:26:468 (3): To Remark the Vocal (This 'uhh') it's better if you add a Whistle on the Reverse Arrow as you did it at the beginning //opps. added.
• 00:44:749 (1): In the music appear a sound like a Clap hitsound for this reason sounds preety fine if you add a Clap in this note to emphatisize this sound in the music //opps. added.
• 00:51:311 (3): I prefer to do another thing to follow better the rhythm, I think that this Slider end on a Red Tick doesn't work at all. For this reason it's better if you do 2 Sliders in 1/1. The first one (3) starts on 00:51:311 and finish in 00:51:780 and the second one (4) starts on 00:52:249 and finish in 00:52:718.
//yes.
• 00:59:632 (T): To be consistent with Normal diff. (where sounds better) add an Inherited Timing Point here with 40% in Audio (Do that if you don't follow the next suggestion) //Hmm.. I dont agree this. but i'll hold on this suggest.
• 00:59:983 (1,1): The Slider is too Close to the Spinner to be on an Easy difficulty, this is difficult to New Players, in general is difficult to make the spin and more if you are thinking on a Slider then. Maybe you can reduce the lenght of the Spinner to make this pattern easier // fixed.
• 01:15:218 (1): (NAZI)- This Slider can be better if you curved it a bit more :P // sure! and fixed.
• 02:03:499 (1): A Clap fit perfectly here, if you listen the music appear a sound like a Clap here too. //opps. added.
• 02:18:733 (1,1): Same as 00:59:983 // fixed.
• 02:47:561 (4): I think that you have to reduce this Combo a bit because is a bit long to be in this difficulty. Following the Voice, here is the better place to add a New Combo // no~
• 03:00:452 (1): Add a Clap at the end, same reason as 02:03:499 //opps. added.
• 03:03:030 (5): And here add a Clap at the beginning of this Slider //opps. added.

[Normal:]

• 00:03:968 (1): Looking your previous pattern, this Slider in 1/1 doesn't work at all, sounds empty at the hour to play the map. I think that you should follow the same consistence as before, to make that Reduce this Slider by 1/4 and then add a note in 00:05:022 (on a blue tick), can be a bit difficult because appear a Note on a blue tick but looking the difficulty in this beginning it's Ok in my opinion // I agree. but i just make one more repeating on it. i dont like to add a circle at blue tick on normal diff.
• 00:49:905 (3): I personally don't like how to play this Whistle on Sliderbody for some reasons. First of all is inconsistent with the rest of the map because you never used this kind of things in the Whole of the map and then you don't have nothing to emphatisize with that, so this make the Whistle unnecesary. It's better if you remove it from here //removed.
• 01:12:405 (3): For consistency with all the 'uuhh', you should add a Whistle instead of a Clap on the end of this Slider. Also, on Collab you did that //opps. i put it wrong hitsound. thanks your remain.
• 01:25:061 (5): I'm preety sure that you forgot to add a Clap on the beginning of this Slider //yes. i forgot to add it. Orz
• 01:27:874 (3): Add a Whistle at the beginning of this Slider (same reason as 01:12:405) //opps. changed.
• 01:31:155 (2,3): The Reverse Arrow on these Sliders don't follow nothing in the music and for this reason sound bad. For this reason it's better if you Remove the Repetitions on each Sliders and make them in 1/1, here an Screenshoot to avoid any doubt:
//yes. but for the slider (3) i'll keep it to the same.
• 01:55:330 (x): I think that work better with the Vocal if you add a Note here.//is 01:55:330 right? and yes.
• 01:55:764 (1): The Whistle on the Sliderbody doesn't work fine here, would be better if you Remove it from here //removed.
• 02:12:405 (3): If you following the music properly, you have to add a Clap at the end of this Slider because appear something like a Clap in the song. For this reason, it's better if you emphatisize that //opps. added.
• 02:37:718 (1,2,3): In General, Slider Stacked (like that) don't make a good sense because don't look fine at all. Also, this kind of things are a bit difficult to 'Normal' Players. For that, this pattern would have a better flow if you unstack those Sliders //fixed.
• 02:48:968 (1): For consistency with your other difficulties, you have to Remove this New Combo //removed.
• 03:24:593 (1,2,3): Same as 02:37:718 //fixed.
• 03:35:843 (1,2): This pattern in particular doesn't follow the music in any aspect, I could find a simple thing in 1/1, without any kind of weird thing that fit properly with the music. The Slider (1) have to start in 03:35:843 and finish in 03:36:780 and the Slider (2) starts on 03:37:249 and finish in 02:37:718, Here you have an Screenshoot.
//fixed.

[Collab:]

Bourdon:

• 01:33:733 (2): The Normal Whistle at the end of the Slider sound noisy, and doesn't fit at all with the music. You can fix that replacing the Normal sampleset to a Soft samplset, sounds much better in my opinion //agree. changed.
• 01:39:827 (7): (NAZI)- Just for esthetic, because looks better, would be a good Idea if you Curve this Slider a bit like the previous Slider (6), maybe a Copy/Paste is a good idea. Try it, you will look that looks better and you don't have to do a lot of things after that (To be sincere you don't have to make nothing after to Curve the Slider :P) //changed.
• 01:42:874 (6): For consistency, you have to add a Whistle in this Note //added.
• 01:55:296 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7): We have to consider that this difficulty is a Hard diff. in general is not recommended to have a Stream with more than 5 notes in this kind of difficulties. If you want you can keep that, but try to compress a bit this Stream making the distance smaller. Hmm... Hold on this problem a moment.
• 01:55:999 (7): This Note need a Clap, fit perfect with the music //added.
• 02:03:499 (1): (^) //added.
• 02:10:882 (x): In this Section you are following the Instrumental and the Vocal a lot. To continue with that and don't break the consistency, it's better if you add a Note here. agree. added.
• 02:16:624 (9): I can percive a more reasonable Stop on here if you Replace the Slider to a Note in this position. Try to listen the music in 25%, I think that it's better wow! It's so nice! agree too! added.
• 02:33:264 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1): As I explained before, this 7-plet should be compressed, making the distance between notes smaller //Hold on.
• 02:35:374 (8,9,10): Wait... A 3-plet here? There is nothing in the middle where is (9) to be remarked with a note, there is no Rhythm in the music, so this is consider as a overmap. Remove (9), is more benefit to the Rhythm. //change it in a slider already.
• 02:48:499 (8): You are missing a Clap at the beginning of this Slider //added back.
• 03:52:718 (1,2,1): These Sliders are Silenced a lot, but anyways I can listen the end of them and they are very unnecesary to the music and sounds totally off-Rhythm. For this Reason it's better if you change these Sliders to 3 Notes on the White Ticks, sounds in the Music perfectly and don't make a bad sounds like the Sliders at the end. //actually i know and i feel this weird sound is nice xD but only a circle on white ticks, isnt too bored i think? I'll hold on this. maybe i will change it later :p

Roddie:

Roddie will decide
• 00:04:319 (2): If you listen the music (Inclusive in 25% to be more sure), you don't have nothing here, and it's better to delete the Overmap because this kind of things make the difficulty much more difficult than Normal.
• 00:08:069 (1): (^)
• 00:11:350 (5): You can make a paused more remarked here, because if you listen the music the pause is there. To make that it's better if you change the Slider to a Note in this position
• 00:44:632 (x): A note, to be more consistent with the another 3-plets
• 00:44:749 (2): And you're missing a Clap here
• 00:45:686 (4): (^)
• 00:59:632 (T): I prefer to listen something in the Slider, there is a little sound in the music. For this reason, I think that you should increase the Volume to 40% (Like Normal diff.)
• 01:03:030 (2): This Clap sounds bad and doesn't follow the Pattern of Claps that you have in the mapset. It's better if you remove from here
• 01:05:608 (8,9): I prefer an antijump here, and I'll said you why, After that you have the jumps in 1/2 when he said 'uu' bla bla bla. This kind of things can be a bit confusive and you can remark this space in 1/1 with an antijump, is the better option in my opinion
• 01:18:382 (x): A Note to be consistent with your 3-plets
• 01:18:733 (5,1): You should make an antijump between these Notes too. (Same as 01:05:608)
• 01:25:061 (3): Add a Clap on the beginning of the Slider. Same reason as always :P

Well, That's All. The difficulties are preety fine but I don't like the gap of difficult between Normal and Collab. I think that it's preety big inclusive on the Score, try to checks out that, otherwhise the maps looks preety fine.
Star to show you my support and the Best of luck with this map, Bourdon! ;)
a very big Thanks your mod and your star!! mancuso :D
-Nothing-To-Do-Here-
Hello from E.E's modding queue!
[Collab]
00:35:608 (10) - add circle after this?Think with sound better
01:36:780 (1) - delite , sound better without this circle
02:13:343 (9,10) - something like this?
02:39:124 (3,4) - something like this?
03:03:264 (2) - add circle after this?
All @suggestion@
Good luck!
riffy
Y U NO BUBBLED? D:
Anyway, here's some stars.
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

EvilElvis wrote:

Hello from E.E's modding queue!
[Collab]
00:35:608 (10) - add circle after this?Think with sound better //hold on.
01:36:780 (1) - delite , sound better without this circle i dont get your "delite" mean. did your mean is delete this circle? If it is. i dont agree this suggest...
02:13:343 (9,10) - something like this? //okay. but i'll keep it in a moment and change it in later.
02:39:124 (3,4) - something like this? //hmm.. no. i dont agree.
03:03:264 (2) - add circle after this? //hold on
All @suggestion@
Good luck!
Thanks your mod :)
Topic Starter
The 08 team_Bourdon

-Bakari- wrote:

Y U NO BUBBLED? D:
Anyway, here's some stars.
Because the hitsounds are changing~ so need to wait a moment~
Thanks for your star! >w</

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ugh.. double post.. Orz
HellDawn
Hello lady.

Easy

02:18:968- finish

Normal

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Collab

01:55:764 (5,6,7)- wrong spacing too close
03:20:843- finish

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